| 57. Why are you insisting that the Republicans must always win and we must always go down in defeat? |
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I don't subscribe to your principle that we Democrats must always let the Republicans win
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| -DUers no longer have the right to demand party loyalty. |
Zhade |
Oct-28-10 11:32 PM |
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it's crist or rubio for your home state. |
veganlush |
Oct-28-10 11:35 PM |
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My stance should be clear -- if Dems who demanded loyalty were, Meek would be up over Crist. |
Zhade |
Oct-28-10 11:38 PM |
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Democrats here, demand that progressives not enable |
mzmolly |
Oct-29-10 12:33 AM |
#19 |
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With FL Dems -- and the party -- abandoning Meek to support Crist, didn't that make Meek 'un-viable'... |
Zhade |
Oct-29-10 01:04 AM |
#31 |
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So they're not party loyalists? |
mzmolly |
Oct-29-10 11:50 AM |
#96 |
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LOL. No. You missed the point entirely. It's the hypocrisy I'm focusing on. |
Zhade |
Oct-30-10 03:23 PM |
#190 |
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Me too. |
mzmolly |
Oct-30-10 03:58 PM |
#193 |
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Well with that simplistic view, let me know which of the three is more *progressive* |
Catherina |
Oct-29-10 03:31 AM |
#53 |
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Obviously my post pertains to those running against |
mzmolly |
Oct-29-10 11:49 AM |
#95 |
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this whole solidarity thing is very confusing |
Warren Stupidity |
Oct-29-10 06:27 PM |
#149 |
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What's confusing about a Democrat voting for Democrats and/or against |
mzmolly |
Oct-29-10 07:08 PM |
#155 |
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nt |
Mojorabbit |
Oct-29-10 03:00 AM |
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And the reason for that was the abandonment of the Democrat. |
sabrina 1 |
Oct-29-10 01:02 AM |
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Thanks for getting that point. Abandoning Meek set up his inability to win. |
Zhade |
Oct-29-10 01:07 AM |
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+1! I smell DLC bullshit all around this bullying of Meek. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-29-10 08:35 AM |
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Yes, this silly framing is tiresome n/t |
stevenleser |
Oct-29-10 01:10 PM |
#123 |
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K&R because I'm in Arizona where the Democratic party couldn't even find |
Tansy_Gold |
Oct-28-10 11:37 PM |
#2 |
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Hell, if there's no Dem to run, that's one thing. |
Zhade |
Oct-28-10 11:39 PM |
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That's an awfully broad brush you're using there |
SeattleGirl |
Oct-28-10 11:39 PM |
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Okay, that's a good point. I should have said "Loyalty-oath DUers" |
Zhade |
Oct-29-10 01:30 AM |
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Those supposedly supporting Crist here, are not party loyalists. |
mzmolly |
Oct-29-10 11:52 AM |
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It is DU wide because the campaiging against Meek was |
Bluenorthwest |
Oct-29-10 08:44 AM |
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Walter |
jobycom |
Oct-28-10 11:49 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Oct-28-10 11:49 PM |
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Republicans who gloat that Nader gave them FL are misinformed given that 200,000 Dems voted for b*s* |
Zhade |
Oct-29-10 01:02 AM |
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Meek's presence in the race is helping that teabagging repuke... |
cynatnite |
Oct-28-10 11:54 PM |
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Listen to yourself |
MadHound |
Oct-29-10 09:28 AM |
#75 |
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I'm a pragmatist... |
cynatnite |
Oct-29-10 11:17 AM |
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Meek would have a chance to win if the Democrats were to have gotten behind him |
Chisox08 |
Oct-29-10 02:13 PM |
#133 |
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Nobody on DU ever addresses the fact that Meek DID NOT CAMPAIGN AT ALL |
1monster |
Oct-29-10 11:48 PM |
#184 |
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Yeah, what is up with that uppity democrat?? |
Dappleganger |
Oct-29-10 10:02 PM |
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And him dropping out would hurt the other Dems on the ballot |
ProudToBeBlueInRhody |
Oct-29-10 10:08 PM |
#174 |
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Speaking of green, lot of love for Alvin Greene here. |
hughee99 |
Oct-28-10 11:56 PM |
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To be honest, that one went over my head. |
Zhade |
Oct-29-10 01:03 AM |
#30 |
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What about Obama advocating a vote for an independent instead of a Dem? |
villager |
Oct-28-10 11:59 PM |
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Does he post |
mzmolly |
Oct-29-10 12:42 AM |
#24 |
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I guess you'd be the first to alert on him if he did! |
villager |
Oct-29-10 12:08 PM |
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If he were continually abusing the user rules, |
mzmolly |
Oct-29-10 12:32 PM |
#113 |
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Like... advocating votes for non-Democrats? (As he does, in "real life!?") |
villager |
Oct-29-10 01:51 PM |
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You mean like many 'progressives' here do, while complaining |
mzmolly |
Oct-29-10 03:17 PM |
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Well, if it's good enough for the President, why can't fellow Democrats... |
villager |
Oct-29-10 04:37 PM |
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They do, according to |
mzmolly |
Oct-29-10 06:07 PM |
#147 |
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Which indy did he "advocate" for? (n/m) |
ProudToBeBlueInRhody |
Oct-29-10 10:09 PM |
#175 |
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Party Loyalty Is Pretty Over-Rated Anyway... |
WillyT |
Oct-29-10 12:01 AM |
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Home state. I don't live in FL anymore, but my parents live in Pensacola. |
Zhade |
Oct-29-10 01:09 AM |
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I LIKE that we don't copy the Republicans' weird behavior, kind of dangerous |
CommonSensePLZ |
Oct-29-10 07:31 PM |
#161 |
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There's not enough DUers to make a differance in that race. |
Kaleva |
Oct-29-10 12:02 AM |
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Sure, I get that. I'm more concerned with the double standard. |
Zhade |
Oct-29-10 01:10 AM |
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Then you have a double standard. You don't mind so called, disloyalty |
mzmolly |
Oct-29-10 11:59 AM |
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Link to where I ever advocated for her and you'd have a point. |
Zhade |
Oct-30-10 03:35 PM |
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Viable Greens by the district? Not a problem. |
Bluenorthwest |
Oct-29-10 08:48 AM |
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At least my Rec made you plus 1 for a little bit. |
ScreamingMeemie |
Oct-29-10 12:04 AM |
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I don't live in Florida, so I can't say who I would have voted for. |
Arkana |
Oct-29-10 12:14 AM |
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Isn't keeping Rubio out of Washington a kind of party loyalty? It's doing what's best |
gateley |
Oct-29-10 12:21 AM |
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In addition to your point, I must be missing all the "Go Crist" |
mzmolly |
Oct-29-10 12:40 AM |
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There's one in GD right now calling for Meek to drop out... |
Zhade |
Oct-29-10 01:14 AM |
#36 |
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Who demanded Meek drop out? |
mzmolly |
Oct-29-10 12:28 AM |
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I'm not falling for a call-out trap. Sorry, not biting. |
Zhade |
Oct-29-10 01:21 AM |
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Just post a link. |
mzmolly |
Oct-29-10 11:51 AM |
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An excerpt from a US News article published in late August. |
Kaleva |
Oct-29-10 12:29 AM |
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Now That IS One Prediction That Is SPOT ON! I Live Here, I Know What |
ChiciB1 |
Oct-29-10 12:04 PM |
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I've been saying all along that Meek did not campaign but it has been |
1monster |
Oct-30-10 12:00 AM |
#185 |
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Question 2. What viable progressive, have Democrats |
mzmolly |
Oct-29-10 12:30 AM |
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Well I guess that all depends on what you mean by "viable"... |
readmoreoften |
Oct-29-10 12:37 AM |
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Viable means, any candidate |
mzmolly |
Oct-29-10 12:39 AM |
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That's one hell of a subjective standard you're proposing. |
Zhade |
Oct-29-10 01:23 AM |
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The meme was that Obama wasn't electable, |
mzmolly |
Oct-29-10 11:48 AM |
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That wasn't the meme. Meek did not campaign. I wanted to vote for the Dem in this |
1monster |
Oct-30-10 12:07 AM |
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in '06 a lot fell for Lieberman's scare tactics and abandoned Ned Lamont... |
Blue_Tires |
Oct-30-10 05:40 PM |
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I find it quite interesting that the same folks who have |
myrna minx |
Oct-29-10 12:37 AM |
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THANK you. |
Zhade |
Oct-29-10 01:16 AM |
#37 |
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exactly. Crist is a right wing Republican, "Independent" in name only. |
inna |
Oct-29-10 02:01 AM |
#48 |
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Boy, that's a stretch. |
Skidmore |
Oct-29-10 08:39 AM |
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+1 |
Poboy |
Oct-29-10 10:24 AM |
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Myrna, how many people here advocate against Democrats/the President and |
mzmolly |
Oct-29-10 11:53 AM |
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hypocrisy has a way of hoisting folks on their own petards. |
nashville_brook |
Oct-29-10 11:04 PM |
#179 |
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No none has ever had that right, and I laugh in the face of anyone who claims it. |
Joe Fields |
Oct-29-10 12:42 AM |
#25 |
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Fair enough! |
Zhade |
Oct-29-10 01:17 AM |
#38 |
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Q. 3 ~ Does this also mean that some here no longer have the right to suggest DU-ers care more about |
mzmolly |
Oct-29-10 12:50 AM |
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Molly, are you really going to claim that the pro Crist |
myrna minx |
Oct-29-10 01:30 AM |
#43 |
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I live here |
Mojorabbit |
Oct-29-10 03:18 AM |
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He was not viable as soon as he was abandoned by the party. |
myrna minx |
Oct-29-10 08:17 AM |
#56 |
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That is not so |
Mojorabbit |
Oct-29-10 01:40 PM |
#126 |
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a side note, meeks isn't viable because of what DU Admins say, he's not viable because his campaign |
dionysus |
Oct-29-10 11:02 AM |
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I'm asking where |
mzmolly |
Oct-29-10 11:46 AM |
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"Meek: Clinton didn't convince me to drop Sen. bid" |
mzmolly |
Oct-29-10 12:55 AM |
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I have never argued against voting for viable Greens. |
Unvanguard |
Oct-29-10 01:08 AM |
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That's fine. You didn't create the DU rule that explicitly said 'no third-party candidates'. |
Zhade |
Oct-29-10 01:18 AM |
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I don't know how the admins would react to a viable Green Party candidate. |
Unvanguard |
Oct-29-10 09:31 AM |
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There have also been posts (not op's) supporting Chafee in RI. nt |
kelly1mm |
Oct-29-10 06:26 PM |
#148 |
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It may be a case of loyalty to the Party as a whole then to any one candidate |
Kaleva |
Oct-29-10 01:24 AM |
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There's no rule against advocating whoever you want during the primaries. |
Zhade |
Oct-29-10 01:33 AM |
#45 |
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I do see where you are coming from |
Kaleva |
Oct-29-10 01:56 AM |
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Meek's the Dem. Crist isn't. Seems pretty clear-cut to me. |
Zhade |
Oct-29-10 02:09 AM |
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They should edit that to read "not... work for the defeat of the DLC or "independent" R candidate" |
AlabamaLibrul |
Oct-29-10 03:50 AM |
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damn right. k&r |
inna |
Oct-29-10 01:54 AM |
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'By showing your own disloyalty, you've made your argument a joke.' |
Bluebear |
Oct-29-10 02:32 AM |
#50 |
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It's as hypocritical as defending the wars since 2009. |
rug |
Oct-29-10 05:55 AM |
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Why are you insisting that the Republicans must always win and we must always go down in defeat? |
NJmaverick |
Oct-29-10 08:24 AM |
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Crist is a Republican. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-29-10 08:39 AM |
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Who is running as an independent and would cacaos with the Dems |
NJmaverick |
Oct-29-10 08:40 AM |
#64 |
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Do you honestly think that a Republican will caucus with the Dems |
MadHound |
Oct-29-10 09:31 AM |
#76 |
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Are you talking about Senator Arlen Specter |
NJmaverick |
Oct-29-10 12:13 PM |
#110 |
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Chain Gang Charlie Crist is a right wing Republican. I think his fan club is calling for a Democrat |
TheKentuckian |
Oct-29-10 08:44 AM |
#67 |
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Your plan ensures the REPUBLICANS a VICTORY |
NJmaverick |
Oct-29-10 08:47 AM |
#68 |
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Your's certainly insures just such an event. Chaingang Charlie is a rightwing Republican. |
TheKentuckian |
Oct-29-10 10:06 AM |
#81 |
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There is no way for the Dem to win |
NJmaverick |
Oct-29-10 12:14 PM |
#111 |
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Your point was that My strategy would allow a REPUBLICAN to win. |
TheKentuckian |
Oct-29-10 12:25 PM |
#112 |
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The point is you want the Republicans to win and have a non-independent |
NJmaverick |
Oct-29-10 12:57 PM |
#117 |
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No, it is you who are carrying water for a Republican. Charlie Crist ain't new to me. |
TheKentuckian |
Oct-29-10 02:54 PM |
#137 |
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Yup. the hypocrisy is disgusting. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-29-10 08:29 AM |
#58 |
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how about you guys build a state party that doesn't suck and keeps sending rethugs to washington? |
dionysus |
Oct-29-10 08:34 AM |
#59 |
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You've been played.... |
Skidmore |
Oct-29-10 08:38 AM |
#61 |
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"Weasel" is his middle name! DAMN, I would love it if Meek |
jonnyblitz |
Oct-29-10 08:43 AM |
#65 |
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My feelings exactly. |
Bluenorthwest |
Oct-29-10 08:53 AM |
#70 |
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Damn -- I wish I could rec this more than once. |
AngryOldDem |
Oct-29-10 08:56 AM |
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I think I understand the confusion. |
Skinner |
Oct-29-10 08:56 AM |
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Is Crist a progressive? |
boston bean |
Oct-29-10 09:24 AM |
#74 |
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For the purposes of my argument, "progressive" is a matter of degree. |
Skinner |
Oct-29-10 09:38 AM |
#79 |
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So if there is a three way race for the presidency in 2012 |
boston bean |
Oct-29-10 01:32 PM |
#125 |
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Let's wait two years and see where we stand in October 2012. |
Skinner |
Oct-29-10 01:54 PM |
#130 |
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I understand it's a long shot and not likely, Skinner, but the scenario is the same. |
boston bean |
Oct-29-10 01:58 PM |
#131 |
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Yes, I understand that the scenario -- if it were to happen -- would be the same. |
Skinner |
Oct-29-10 02:10 PM |
#132 |
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I continue to understand your essential premise, but I still see it as a *very* slippery slope |
Stinky The Clown |
Oct-29-10 05:16 PM |
#146 |
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"so talking about it is just masturbation" |
boston bean |
Oct-29-10 06:43 PM |
#153 |
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FWIW, most of the stuff we talk about here is just masturbation. |
Skinner |
Oct-29-10 07:16 PM |
#158 |
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The difference between Florida and Alaska... |
Skinner |
Oct-29-10 07:14 PM |
#157 |
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when crist got governor, I thought he would lean left (and come out) - he has NOT |
2Design |
Oct-29-10 10:39 PM |
#177 |
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I ALMOST voted for Crist for Governor four years ago. |
Dr.Phool |
Oct-29-10 11:45 PM |
#183 |
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"Progressive" isn't just a content-free term that's applied on sliding scale. |
stranger81 |
Oct-29-10 04:25 PM |
#144 |
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No, your analogy doesn't work, because it assumes progressivism is not matter of degree |
BzaDem |
Oct-29-10 11:22 PM |
#181 |
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I Live Here & As One Who Actually Campaigned Against Crist For Governor, |
ChiciB1 |
Oct-29-10 12:41 PM |
#115 |
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+1000 |
alcibiades_mystery |
Oct-29-10 10:12 AM |
#83 |
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Beautifully |
mzmolly |
Oct-29-10 12:02 PM |
#106 |
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well |
BeFree |
Oct-30-10 01:11 AM |
#188 |
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No, Skinner, I am not confused. You are allowing a hypocritical double standard. |
Zhade |
Oct-30-10 04:01 PM |
#194 |
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uh, yeah |
BeFree |
Oct-30-10 04:48 PM |
#198 |
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Pffft...half the people here lost that right when they started rah-rahing drone attacks |
tjwash |
Oct-29-10 09:02 AM |
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Well said. Thank you. |
sally cat |
Oct-29-10 07:22 PM |
#159 |
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There is one thing I like about this Meek-Crist-Rubio dust up |
MadHound |
Oct-29-10 09:33 AM |
#78 |
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Let's see how often they trot out the Nader bogeyman after this display of "party loyalty". |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Oct-29-10 10:13 AM |
#84 |
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Jebby Will Wipe Palin's Ass & Do It Without Batting An Eyelash! |
ChiciB1 |
Oct-29-10 01:05 PM |
#120 |
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Wow, great post. My first post here was about how shocked I am at the treatment of Meek here. |
sally cat |
Oct-29-10 07:26 PM |
#160 |
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A lot of DUers are as loyal to the Democratic Party as Democratic leaders are loyal to their base. |
progressoid |
Oct-29-10 10:05 AM |
#80 |
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As usual |
alcibiades_mystery |
Oct-29-10 10:08 AM |
#82 |
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+1000000 |
dionysus |
Oct-29-10 11:00 AM |
#87 |
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+10000 nt |
Mojorabbit |
Oct-29-10 01:49 PM |
#128 |
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Seems you missed the point. Figures. |
Zhade |
Oct-30-10 04:08 PM |
#196 |
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Skinner's post on this very subject... |
SidDithers |
Oct-29-10 10:19 AM |
#85 |
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The same people who insist that we "hold our nose" and vote for conservative Dems |
Lorien |
Oct-29-10 11:08 AM |
#89 |
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THANK YOU Lorien... And YOU Are Not Alone. And As One Who Lives |
ChiciB1 |
Oct-29-10 12:51 PM |
#116 |
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But you're not being PRAGMATIC. |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Oct-29-10 11:08 AM |
#90 |
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Sorry, but this is a load of crap... |
TreasonousBastard |
Oct-29-10 11:45 AM |
#92 |
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That's a piss poor argument . n/t |
Fire1 |
Oct-29-10 11:59 AM |
#104 |
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That's a piss poor argument. n/t |
Fire1 |
Oct-29-10 12:01 PM |
#105 |
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"the nonsense of principles" |
donco6 |
Oct-29-10 12:40 PM |
#114 |
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There's also Obama's reluctance to endorse the Rhode Island Democrat |
Valienteman |
Oct-29-10 11:51 AM |
#98 |
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In agreement with you. |
Dappleganger |
Oct-29-10 11:57 AM |
#101 |
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I Consider Myself A Liberal, Always Have... More Liberal Than Many Here |
ChiciB1 |
Oct-29-10 01:00 PM |
#118 |
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On Edit... I Won't Say I'm Completely Correct About How Crist Will Do... |
ChiciB1 |
Oct-29-10 01:01 PM |
#119 |
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Well said, Zhade! I've been sayin this for the last month. n/t |
Fire1 |
Oct-29-10 11:57 AM |
#102 |
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I've always thought... |
Iggo |
Oct-29-10 12:05 PM |
#108 |
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+10000 |
Dappleganger |
Oct-29-10 01:07 PM |
#121 |
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Well, unlike the (EEK!) Greens, Crist can't be called "too liberal". K&R |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Oct-29-10 01:08 PM |
#122 |
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Viable Green vs. Weak Dem vs. Tea Party |
Catbird |
Oct-29-10 01:32 PM |
#124 |
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Yep |
BeFree |
Oct-29-10 01:45 PM |
#127 |
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I also don't envy the choice that Florida folks have to make. |
political_Dem |
Oct-29-10 02:17 PM |
#134 |
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Zhade, you & I often disagree, but I believe I'm going to have to come down on your side on this one |
apocalypsehow |
Oct-29-10 02:36 PM |
#135 |
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I can... I voted early and voted for Meek |
RagAss |
Oct-29-10 02:38 PM |
#136 |
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OK go start your own board |
intaglio |
Oct-29-10 03:36 PM |
#139 |
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You are assuming that Crist would vote significantly differently than Rubio.. |
Fumesucker |
Oct-29-10 03:40 PM |
#140 |
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Hang on sunshine. Florida is my state too and Meek is in effect putting a monster in office. nt |
pgodbold |
Oct-29-10 03:44 PM |
#141 |
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That's too bad. n/t |
Fire1 |
Oct-29-10 03:48 PM |
#142 |
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Yeah, damn that uppity democrat! |
Dappleganger |
Oct-29-10 10:05 PM |
#172 |
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He wasn't "uppity" at all! Would that he had been! He did NO campaigning at all. |
1monster |
Oct-30-10 12:52 AM |
#187 |
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250,000 Florida Democrats voted for George W. Bush in 2000 and Ralph Nader was blamed for that!! |
Better Believe It |
Oct-29-10 04:09 PM |
#143 |
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Even Bill Clinton tried to get Meeks to drop out and apparantly |
MadMaddie |
Oct-29-10 06:30 PM |
#150 |
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Crist is not a Blue Dog! He's not a Democrat of any kind. |
Bluenorthwest |
Oct-29-10 06:41 PM |
#152 |
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My point is if he were to caucus with the Dems he would not |
MadMaddie |
Oct-29-10 07:07 PM |
#154 |
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Recommended. |
H2O Man |
Oct-29-10 06:36 PM |
#151 |
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I love it when those who don't live in a particular state start issuing orders, decrees & ultimatums |
WolverineDG |
Oct-29-10 07:10 PM |
#156 |
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Thank you for a brilliant, well thought out post. This situation is shameful. Mr. Meek deserves our |
sally cat |
Oct-29-10 07:31 PM |
#162 |
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The days of party loyalty are numbered |
crikkett |
Oct-29-10 08:55 PM |
#163 |
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The election in Florida is much like the election in Alaska. |
Blue_In_AK |
Oct-29-10 09:38 PM |
#164 |
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"But I don't ever, EVER want to hear another demand..." |
LoZoccolo |
Oct-29-10 09:52 PM |
#165 |
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And what are you going to do, "tough guy", spank us? Insult us to death? |
TheWatcher |
Oct-29-10 09:56 PM |
#166 |
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Alert splinterist posts so they get deleted. |
LoZoccolo |
Oct-29-10 09:58 PM |
#167 |
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Ah, good, I can go back to sleep now. |
TheWatcher |
Oct-29-10 10:00 PM |
#169 |
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I'm not the one telling people they better not say this or that... |
LoZoccolo |
Oct-29-10 10:03 PM |
#171 |
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Looks like all their posts are still here. |
TheWatcher |
Oct-29-10 10:05 PM |
#173 |
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I don't usually alert on every personal attack against me. n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Oct-29-10 10:18 PM |
#176 |
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I'll point right back to this whole debacle. |
Zhade |
Oct-30-10 04:15 PM |
#197 |
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Uh, excuse me? |
derby378 |
Oct-29-10 09:59 PM |
#168 |
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big k and r. the system needs to be reformed to allow for runoffs to end spoilers. |
nashville_brook |
Oct-29-10 10:56 PM |
#178 |
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Oct-29-10 11:14 PM |
#180 |
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Though actually, of course, they absolutely have that right, because this is a private message board |
BzaDem |
Oct-29-10 11:26 PM |
#182 |
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*cough* |
Zhade |
Oct-30-10 03:21 PM |
#189 |
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What R U talking about, we've always been the party of the lesser-evil! |
JJ |
Oct-30-10 03:29 PM |
#191 |
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Wish I Wasn't Too Late To Rec, But I Can Give This A Kick :) |
Dinger |
Oct-30-10 04:05 PM |
#195 |
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uh, yes we do |
mkultra |
Oct-30-10 05:51 PM |
#200 |