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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 04:04 PM
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54. As Goes Halloween, So Goes Childhood


It's not that I'm cavalier about safety. I'm just a sucker -- so to speak -- for the facts. And the fact is: No child has been poisoned by a stranger's goodies on Halloween, ever, as far as we can determine. Joel Best, a sociology professor at the University of Delaware, studied November newspapers from 1958 to the present, scouring them for any accounts of kids felled by felonious candy. And...he didn't find any. He did find one account of a boy poisoned by a Pixie Stix his father gave him. Dad did it for the insurance money and, Best says, he probably figured that so many kids are poisoned on Halloween, no one would notice one more.

Well, they did and dad was executed. That's Texas for you. Another boy died after he got into his uncle's heroin stash and relatives tried to make it look like he'd been killed by candy. And that's it.

Now look at how the fear that our nice, normal-seeming neighbors might actually be moppet-murdering psychopaths has turned the one kiddie independence day of the year into yet another excuse to micromanage childhood.


Our fears are so overblown they'd be laughable if they didn't sound so much like the fears that are haunting us the rest of the year. Fears that have lead to parents to wait with their kids at the school bus stop, and keep them inside on sunny afternoons. Fears that make parents forbid their kids from skipping down the street to invite a friend out to play. That's the everyday version of Halloween fear: The fear that we cannot trust our children amongst our neighbors for one single second because, who knows, they might be pedophiles just waiting to pounce.

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  -Towns bans kids 12 years and older from trick-or-treating... cynatnite  Oct-26-10 09:45 PM   #0 
  - Jesus fucking Christ  BolivarianHero   Oct-26-10 09:46 PM   #1 
  - If the government shouldn't be regulating it...  pipi_k   Oct-26-10 09:55 PM   #8 
  - There should be no age limit, period.  HuckleB   Oct-26-10 10:38 PM   #24 
     - Exactly.  jp11   Oct-26-10 11:21 PM   #32 
     - exactly, then it can be left to the homeowners  snooper2   Oct-27-10 12:24 PM   #44 
  - Fer chrissakes. People could  SheilaT   Oct-26-10 09:48 PM   #2 
  - dang-  la la   Oct-26-10 09:51 PM   #3 
  - "Relieved"--really, we're that scared of kids over 12 now?  TwilightGardener   Oct-26-10 09:51 PM   #4 
  - This reminds me of Adam Sandler's old Halloween skit, " Give me some candy" LOL  Jefferson23   Oct-26-10 09:53 PM   #5 
  - Some older children accompany their younger siblings.  demmiblue   Oct-26-10 09:53 PM   #6 
  - Apparently not in Belleville.  HuckleB   Oct-26-10 10:38 PM   #23 
  - This is bizarre.  Brickbat   Oct-26-10 09:55 PM   #7 
  - In the past when I've had kids who were too old come to my door  TlalocW   Oct-26-10 09:56 PM   #9 
  - I used to give older kids apples.  Xithras   Oct-27-10 12:48 PM   #46 
  - If you have a problem with who comes to the door then don't open your fucking door  Stevenmarc   Oct-26-10 09:57 PM   #10 
  - Yeah, that works if you're not elderly...  pipi_k   Oct-26-10 10:05 PM   #15 
  - FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR!  HuckleB   Oct-26-10 10:40 PM   #25 
  - Really?  Stevenmarc   Oct-27-10 11:52 AM   #41 
  - exactly!  shanti   Oct-26-10 10:32 PM   #20 
  - A crisp fall night, hanging out with your pals, a bagful  saltpoint   Oct-26-10 09:57 PM   #11 
  - "puts on tinfoil hat"  Drale   Oct-26-10 09:59 PM   #12 
  - so anyway...  pipi_k   Oct-26-10 09:59 PM   #13 
  - a couple of my sons  shanti   Oct-26-10 10:35 PM   #22 
  - By the time we hit 12-13  guitar man   Oct-26-10 10:05 PM   #14 
  - Around these parts it was called "Cabbage Night"  pipi_k   Oct-26-10 10:07 PM   #16 
     - Ooh, stinky cabbage  guitar man   Oct-26-10 10:20 PM   #17 
  - umm, eckhert? TEENAGE starts when you are THIRTEEN, not twelve.  niyad   Oct-26-10 10:22 PM   #18 
  - You can't outlaw stupid.  Radical Activist   Oct-26-10 10:23 PM   #19 
  - First off I know some 12 year olds who are very tall second of all are  redirish28   Oct-26-10 10:33 PM   #21 
  - Yup. -eom-  HuckleB   Oct-26-10 10:40 PM   #26 
  - Jerks. nt  woo me with science   Oct-26-10 10:41 PM   #27 
  - That's such an awkward age  Matariki   Oct-26-10 10:47 PM   #28 
  - Some good DU comments on this issue can be found here:  HuckleB   Oct-26-10 10:48 PM   #29 
  - There was a unwritten rule in our neighborhood about kids over 12 trick-or-treating.  devilgrrl   Oct-26-10 10:58 PM   #30 
  - BS.  HuckleB   Oct-27-10 12:37 AM   #34 
  - Not BS. BS is teenagers trick-or-treating.  devilgrrl   Oct-27-10 08:23 AM   #35 
     - I went trick-or-treating when I was 14 and had a lot of fun.  Occulus   Oct-27-10 08:47 AM   #38 
     - 14 and trick-or-treating? Isn't that for little kids?  devilgrrl   Oct-27-10 09:40 AM   #39 
        - Not in the real world, it's not.  HuckleB   Oct-27-10 02:42 PM   #48 
           - Looks like the "real world" needs to grow up.  devilgrrl   Oct-27-10 04:03 PM   #53 
              - Thank you for proving my point.  HuckleB   Oct-27-10 04:06 PM   #55 
     - No, it's not.  HuckleB   Oct-27-10 02:41 PM   #47 
  - I won't say that it was an unwritten rule, but when I was a kid trick-or-treating  Arkansas Granny   Oct-27-10 10:05 AM   #40 
     - The real truth is that what was childish was those who deemed it childish.  HuckleB   Oct-27-10 02:44 PM   #49 
        - So basically what you're saying is that you're going Trick or Treating this year?  devilgrrl   Oct-28-10 12:53 PM   #56 
  - We always had the older "kids" coming after our little ones  efhmc   Oct-26-10 11:13 PM   #31 
  - Trick-or-treating is not what it once was anyways.  elocs   Oct-27-10 12:12 AM   #33 
  - i was going to say, back in the day, the parent told kids no. we get lots of treaters.... after 9  seabeyond   Oct-27-10 08:41 AM   #36 
  - Some people really, really, really hate Trick-orTreat - they have to  hedgehog   Oct-27-10 08:46 AM   #37 
  - that's ridiculous  dana_b   Oct-27-10 12:45 PM   #45 
  - Young children are (ususally) accompanied by adults; teenagers who are trick-or-treating  LeftinOH   Oct-27-10 11:58 AM   #42 
  - Get a fucking life. nt  LawnLover   Oct-27-10 12:04 PM   #43 
  - when i was a teenager, we wouldn't be caught dead trick or treating....  Scout   Oct-27-10 02:55 PM   #50 
  - We went trick or treating. Liked the dressing up part the most but the candy was cool. And since  GreenPartyVoter   Oct-28-10 12:55 PM   #57 
  - This is purely a local issue.  AngryOldDem   Oct-27-10 03:53 PM   #51 
  - That is one fear-filled response!  HuckleB   Oct-27-10 04:02 PM   #52 
  - As Goes Halloween, So Goes Childhood  HuckleB   Oct-27-10 04:04 PM   #54 

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