Vinnie From Indy
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Tue Oct-26-10 01:08 PM
Response to Reply #95 |
| 97. I do not hate Edmonds |
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I just think she is less than credible and her allegations hurt real people that have real families etc. I think her career is built on a lie and she is attempting to cash in on her carefully crafted persona as a gagged whistleblower. She is simply your run of the mill opportunist in my opinion.
I would agree that public money should not be given to religious schools of any kind. Whether the Gulen Movement is what Edmonds claims is another matter and based on her past, I highly doubt it. Lastly, even if Edmonds were for real, I think this piece is written to incite fear more than illuminate and debate the issue.
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| -From Sibel Edmonds: The King of Madrasas Now Operates Over 100 Charter Schools in the US? |
madfloridian |
Oct-24-10 10:53 PM |
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the comments on the boiling frog site are very interesting.... |
madrchsod |
Oct-24-10 11:09 PM |
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Yes, they are. |
madfloridian |
Oct-24-10 11:25 PM |
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K & R n/t |
glinda |
Oct-25-10 12:46 AM |
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If they are teaching religion in the publicly chartered school, |
JDPriestly |
Oct-25-10 02:29 AM |
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They do not appear to be |
jberryhill |
Oct-25-10 07:03 AM |
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You've been to one of these charter schools? |
Oilwellian |
Oct-25-10 07:36 AM |
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I doubt the guy preaches anything to children |
jberryhill |
Oct-25-10 08:07 AM |
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Other than "bundling" and campaign contributions and influence. |
mmonk |
Oct-25-10 08:09 AM |
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Anything specific? |
jberryhill |
Oct-25-10 08:18 AM |
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We can pretend if you want that Turkish influence peddling |
mmonk |
Oct-25-10 08:22 AM |
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The Turkish government doesn't seem to like this guy, though |
jberryhill |
Oct-25-10 10:28 AM |
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What about Gulen AKP connections in 2007? |
mmonk |
Oct-25-10 10:48 AM |
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Do you want to state facts in connection with these schools? |
jberryhill |
Oct-25-10 10:50 AM |
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Certainly. I am against charter schools as a substitute for public |
mmonk |
Oct-25-10 11:09 AM |
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No, it appears that you don't. He wanted a restoration of the Theocracy that been replaced. |
olegramps |
Oct-29-10 08:59 AM |
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Oct-25-10 03:49 PM |
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"Perhaps you should invest some effort into researching these institutions before you comment" |
jberryhill |
Oct-25-10 04:32 PM |
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You aren't dense, just lacking facts and knowledge about Gulen and Turkic Charter Schools :) |
kaelot |
Oct-25-10 07:06 PM |
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Okay I read that |
jberryhill |
Oct-25-10 09:21 PM |
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How interesting. |
Edweird |
Oct-25-10 02:51 AM |
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Glad you are posting this. |
mmonk |
Oct-25-10 07:44 AM |
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k & r |
Starry Messenger |
Oct-25-10 08:47 AM |
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Edmonds is a fraud |
Vinnie From Indy |
Oct-25-10 08:58 AM |
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Is the USA Today story a fraud also? |
mmonk |
Oct-25-10 09:26 AM |
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Yes, this piece is a smear job through and through |
Vinnie From Indy |
Oct-25-10 09:46 AM |
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Simple. A madrasa or madrasah is |
mmonk |
Oct-25-10 10:04 AM |
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I think you touch on a great example of why this appears to be a smear piece |
Vinnie From Indy |
Oct-25-10 11:12 AM |
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The Schakowsky attack was really slimy |
jberryhill |
Oct-25-10 12:27 PM |
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Sorry but the connections between the AKP, The Niagara Foundation, |
mmonk |
Oct-25-10 02:05 PM |
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Other than Glenn Beck's Chalkboard |
jberryhill |
Oct-25-10 03:41 PM |
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The Gulen schools are called madrasas in the other countries |
mmonk |
Oct-25-10 01:58 PM |
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And Obama's middle name is Hussein |
jberryhill |
Oct-25-10 03:24 PM |
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Why don't you tell me what I'm doing? |
mmonk |
Oct-25-10 04:46 PM |
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Madrasa is the arabic word for any type of educational institution |
jberryhill |
Oct-25-10 04:57 PM |
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By other countries, I was speaking of countries, like the US, |
mmonk |
Oct-25-10 05:22 PM |
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He has 25 Billion dollars and has schools all over the world. |
mmonk |
Oct-25-10 05:34 PM |
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What is the Walton family getting as a "political price"? |
jberryhill |
Oct-25-10 05:59 PM |
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You really don't care that taxes are going to religious schools? |
madfloridian |
Oct-25-10 06:03 PM |
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I care deeply - I haven't seen one shred of evidence these are "religious schools" |
jberryhill |
Oct-25-10 06:21 PM |
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You are barking up the wrong tree. |
mmonk |
Oct-25-10 06:28 PM |
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and where does it go? |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-25-10 11:25 PM |
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There are pages linked in my posts. |
madfloridian |
Oct-25-10 06:30 PM |
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You seem not to understand something |
jberryhill |
Oct-25-10 07:00 PM |
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You read way too much into what I posted. |
madfloridian |
Oct-25-10 07:09 PM |
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You said "religious schools" |
jberryhill |
Oct-25-10 07:23 PM |
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Yes, it is too much to ask when you can read the links for yourself. |
madfloridian |
Oct-25-10 07:27 PM |
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!! scimitars! |
dionysus |
Oct-25-10 11:47 PM |
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I had the sad experience of attending PUBLIC schools in the South. |
olegramps |
Oct-29-10 09:23 AM |
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is it a "religious school" because a muslin is tangentially related to it? |
dionysus |
Oct-25-10 11:45 PM |
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Nothing geo-political. |
mmonk |
Oct-25-10 06:06 PM |
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lol. you can't figure it out? |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-25-10 11:34 PM |
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Oct-25-10 04:22 PM |
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They are really death camps, not charter schools? |
jberryhill |
Oct-25-10 04:38 PM |
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The article did not call the charter school a madrasa. |
madfloridian |
Oct-25-10 10:42 AM |
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Isn't it annoying when immigrants bring their crap to the US? |
jberryhill |
Oct-25-10 10:48 AM |
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Oct-25-10 04:45 PM |
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"Discovery School Of Tulsa is arranging Field Trips to Science Museum of Oklahoma, Omniplex" |
jberryhill |
Oct-25-10 05:03 PM |
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Zero evidence....NO, the evidence exists.... |
kaelot |
Oct-25-10 05:44 PM |
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Thanks kaelot. |
mmonk |
Oct-25-10 05:55 PM |
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So these charter schools in Oklahoma |
jberryhill |
Oct-25-10 06:24 PM |
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Good question! |
Vinnie From Indy |
Oct-25-10 08:11 PM |
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A lot of late night 7/11 clerks are Turks! |
jberryhill |
Oct-25-10 09:10 PM |
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hookay sir trollalot... |
dionysus |
Oct-25-10 11:50 PM |
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By whose definition? |
madfloridian |
Oct-25-10 03:06 PM |
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People here ever since the Schakowsky incidence. |
mmonk |
Oct-25-10 03:58 PM |
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I do |
Vinnie From Indy |
Oct-25-10 04:10 PM |
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I guess she was totally wrong about Dennis Hastert wasn't she. |
cascadiance |
Oct-25-10 11:15 PM |
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He is a lobbyist that is certain |
Vinnie From Indy |
Oct-25-10 11:48 PM |
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I think you need to explain WHERE you think she is lying. I don't see it! |
cascadiance |
Oct-26-10 12:10 AM |
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8 Catholic schools, an evangelical school in FL, 4 NY schools, 1 in PA |
madfloridian |
Oct-25-10 10:38 AM |
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The article reads like freeper "muslim" hysteria. |
sufrommich |
Oct-25-10 10:49 AM |
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They are getting taxpayer money. That is my gripe. |
madfloridian |
Oct-25-10 10:55 AM |
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The schools discussed in the OP are not "religious schools" |
jberryhill |
Oct-25-10 11:11 AM |
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You need to read more about the schools. |
madfloridian |
Oct-25-10 11:38 AM |
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Being against charter schools is one thing,using freeper |
sufrommich |
Oct-25-10 12:08 PM |
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I'm aware of the problems of charter schools |
jberryhill |
Oct-25-10 12:21 PM |
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Because they are getting our tax money that should go to public schools |
madfloridian |
Oct-25-10 12:26 PM |
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You're skirting the real issue some of us have with this. |
sufrommich |
Oct-25-10 12:32 PM |
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Yep... |
JuniperLea |
Oct-25-10 06:36 PM |
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Oct-25-10 07:02 PM |
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New personal rule... |
JuniperLea |
Oct-25-10 07:08 PM |
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Um... What insult? |
jberryhill |
Oct-25-10 07:22 PM |
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ahhh... gotcha... pardon my terse response! |
JuniperLea |
Oct-25-10 07:25 PM |
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Funny that the article only seeks to whip up hysteria about |
sufrommich |
Oct-25-10 11:16 AM |
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Exactly!! nt |
CBR |
Oct-25-10 11:12 AM |
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No fucking charter schools! They are Trojan horses for anyone willing to run one. nt |
thereismore |
Oct-25-10 11:44 AM |
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Wow. Sibel Edmonds is a fraud and it's all fine as long as they don't require burkas as |
Greyhound |
Oct-25-10 12:40 PM |
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The only thing Edmonds has done with great skill is |
Vinnie From Indy |
Oct-25-10 04:01 PM |
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yeah, burkas: way beyond the pale. us tax dollars supporting private religions, |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-25-10 11:20 PM |
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K & R nt |
laughingliberal |
Oct-25-10 09:23 PM |
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The Recs on this thread are a monument to willfull ignorance |
Vinnie From Indy |
Oct-25-10 11:44 PM |
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the bev harris of today. |
dionysus |
Oct-25-10 11:59 PM |
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And for you to call her a liar, either you have to be an FBI insider or... |
cascadiance |
Oct-26-10 12:09 AM |
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One need not be an FBI insider to find gargantuan flaws in Edmond's stories |
Vinnie From Indy |
Oct-26-10 01:01 PM |
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I would assert that YOU have absolutely no idea of what her job was! |
cascadiance |
Oct-26-10 05:10 PM |
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Gulen's mystifying agenda begs a lot of scrutiny from my point of view... Shadow of the Holy Book... |
cascadiance |
Oct-26-10 12:01 AM |
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Gives you a pain in your chest ... especially when Obama/Duncan are pushing Charter schools .... |
defendandprotect |
Oct-26-10 12:05 AM |
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Gulen charter schools |
RRF1966 |
Oct-26-10 12:31 AM |
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Thanks for the information. |
olegramps |
Oct-29-10 10:19 AM |
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I did not realize the hatred against Edmonds. |
madfloridian |
Oct-26-10 12:40 AM |
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I do not hate Edmonds |
Vinnie From Indy |
Oct-26-10 01:08 PM |
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Vinnie, go get the "Shadow of the Holy Book" DVD and watch it and come back here later... |
cascadiance |
Oct-26-10 05:17 PM |
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why it's wrong |
RRF1966 |
Oct-28-10 05:48 AM |
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Thanks for the information. |
olegramps |
Oct-29-10 10:52 AM |
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Thanks for the information. |
olegramps |
Oct-29-10 10:52 AM |
#105 |
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