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Fri Oct-22-10 09:46 PM
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That man has got to GO!!!  |
| -Arne supports having flawed NYC test scores published with teachers' names and ratings. |
madfloridian |
Oct-21-10 10:02 PM |
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I really hate this man. |
Reader Rabbit |
Oct-21-10 10:26 PM |
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It's painful. |
madfloridian |
Oct-21-10 10:31 PM |
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Slightly off topic |
senseandsensibility |
Oct-21-10 10:35 PM |
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There will be no public disagreement. |
madfloridian |
Oct-21-10 10:38 PM |
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"Not a single Democratic leader is aware"... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Oct-23-10 04:05 PM |
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Fetal Progressives. |
Jakes Progress |
Oct-22-10 07:36 AM |
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Another example of teacher-bashing. |
offog |
Oct-22-10 05:18 PM |
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Uh |
Jakes Progress |
Oct-23-10 06:37 AM |
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Why did you not expect the NYC DOE to comply with the First Amendment? |
msanthrope |
Oct-22-10 08:37 AM |
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thanks, mad, for keeping us informed on this topic. |
bbgrunt |
Oct-21-10 11:23 PM |
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k & r |
Starry Messenger |
Oct-21-10 11:34 PM |
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Yes, they, the neo-libs-cons the New World Order crowd |
sabrina 1 |
Oct-22-10 02:03 PM |
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This is going to backfire on Obama |
proud2BlibKansan |
Oct-21-10 11:45 PM |
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Is hurting Democrats now. I had dinner |
Jakes Progress |
Oct-22-10 07:41 AM |
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Lesson Plan |
zenprole |
Oct-22-10 02:23 AM |
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He's supporting the First Amendment--these are press FOIL requests. |
msanthrope |
Oct-22-10 08:33 AM |
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knr |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-22-10 02:27 AM |
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Morning kick |
Reader Rabbit |
Oct-22-10 06:33 AM |
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Published flawed test scores would subject New York City to litigation in two ways: |
no_hypocrisy |
Oct-22-10 06:47 AM |
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Really? Explain how lawful compliance with FOIL would lead to any of the suits you mention. n/t |
msanthrope |
Oct-22-10 08:31 AM |
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you need to take the word "lawful" out of your question n/t |
KurtNYC |
Oct-22-10 08:36 AM |
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Tell us, what is 'unlawful' about the FOIL request? |
msanthrope |
Oct-22-10 08:41 AM |
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Who is "us" ? -- I just see you posting the same thing 5 times in a |
KurtNYC |
Oct-22-10 09:13 AM |
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It would be great if you gave some facts--how are these disclosures unlawful? n/t |
msanthrope |
Oct-22-10 09:31 AM |
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If the method by which the findings are calculated, there's the problem of |
no_hypocrisy |
Oct-22-10 09:13 AM |
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But you still aren't explaining how that leads to liability on anyone's part-- |
msanthrope |
Oct-22-10 09:36 AM |
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If the results are suspect and unreliable, and the particular score leads to |
no_hypocrisy |
Oct-22-10 10:23 AM |
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How would the results lead to a discharge? In NYC? Home of the Rubber Room? |
msanthrope |
Oct-22-10 10:32 AM |
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They got rid of the rubber rooms |
proud2BlibKansan |
Oct-22-10 10:41 PM |
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none filed because the "ratings" published weren't part of school personnel files, but a bill gates- |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-22-10 11:39 AM |
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Would they publish doctor names w/how many patients died, or lawyers' w/how many cases they lost?? |
demodonkey |
Oct-22-10 06:51 AM |
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Damn good argument, demodonkey! |
offog |
Oct-22-10 05:58 PM |
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he did`t improve the chicago schools and.... |
madrchsod |
Oct-22-10 08:11 AM |
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This is a VERY misleading OP!!!! Should NYC schools not comply with FOIL requests from the press? |
msanthrope |
Oct-22-10 08:27 AM |
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. |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-22-10 11:40 AM |
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hmm... |
chervilant |
Oct-22-10 01:41 PM |
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Yes, let's put people in danger by releasing personal info |
fascisthunter |
Oct-22-10 08:42 AM |
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So how do you balance the First Amendment right of the press, who did the FOIL requests? |
msanthrope |
Oct-22-10 08:49 AM |
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rrrrright...let's use the press to single out teachers |
fascisthunter |
Oct-22-10 09:04 AM |
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The press filed the FOILs--not Arne Duncan, not President Obama, not |
msanthrope |
Oct-22-10 09:07 AM |
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Singling out teachers by using the media |
fascisthunter |
Oct-22-10 09:15 AM |
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I think the media has the right to certain information about public employees. Cops, garbagemen, |
msanthrope |
Oct-22-10 09:29 AM |
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What if the stats are proven to be unreliable? |
Catshrink |
Oct-22-10 04:25 PM |
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I agree with Catshrink .... |
offog |
Oct-22-10 05:42 PM |
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Thank you Catshrink and offog. I was about to suggest |
callous taoboy |
Oct-22-10 09:27 PM |
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What's far more damaging to education |
sulphurdunn |
Oct-22-10 09:56 AM |
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+1 |
QC |
Oct-22-10 10:58 AM |
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. |
fascisthunter |
Oct-22-10 11:03 AM |
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This is another perfect illustration... |
ljm2002 |
Oct-22-10 11:08 AM |
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Someone just reminded me of this interview with Arne by a teacher. |
madfloridian |
Oct-22-10 11:21 AM |
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Excellent! nt |
laughingliberal |
Oct-22-10 11:42 AM |
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What happens to a former teacher who is no longer working but gets her name and score published? |
erodriguez |
Oct-22-10 11:35 AM |
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Everything you write is true. And completely legal. |
msanthrope |
Oct-22-10 12:08 PM |
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hmm... |
chervilant |
Oct-22-10 01:57 PM |
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Lol that guy is my ignore list |
erodriguez |
Oct-22-10 04:16 PM |
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Mine, too. |
madfloridian |
Oct-22-10 04:19 PM |
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I briefly took him off to see what he was speaking of. |
erodriguez |
Oct-22-10 04:45 PM |
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Heh heh |
madfloridian |
Oct-22-10 04:20 PM |
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Well, |
chervilant |
Oct-22-10 11:27 PM |
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LOL Great call!! |
proud2BlibKansan |
Oct-22-10 10:39 PM |
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Bwahahahahaha!!! |
chervilant |
Oct-23-10 06:07 AM |
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Duncan needs to go |
patty2828 |
Oct-22-10 11:47 AM |
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I HATE TO SAY THIS, no |
cjbgreen |
Oct-22-10 12:04 PM |
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looks like that, yes. |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-22-10 12:11 PM |
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Rahm or Obama? And they used the kids from "Waiting for Superman" |
EFerrari |
Oct-22-10 12:12 PM |
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The unintended consequences of these types of measures |
erodriguez |
Oct-22-10 04:26 PM |
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How Will Teachers Respond in 2010 and 2012? |
Dinger |
Oct-22-10 08:44 PM |
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Yes. every child is hermetically sealed except when in my care. |
callous taoboy |
Oct-22-10 09:43 PM |
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Oh hell to the no! |
Dappleganger |
Oct-22-10 09:46 PM |
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Let's see Arne post HIS credentials, or lack thereof! |
DailyGrind51 |
Oct-23-10 08:33 AM |
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Interesting teacher scores are posted, but not doctor's scores. |
EndElectoral |
Oct-23-10 12:44 PM |
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