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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-10 11:03 AM
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  -Arne supports having flawed NYC test scores published with teachers' names and ratings. madfloridian  Oct-21-10 10:02 PM   #0 
  - I really hate this man.  Reader Rabbit   Oct-21-10 10:26 PM   #1 
  - It's painful.  madfloridian   Oct-21-10 10:31 PM   #2 
     - Slightly off topic  senseandsensibility   Oct-21-10 10:35 PM   #3 
     - There will be no public disagreement.  madfloridian   Oct-21-10 10:38 PM   #4 
     - "Not a single Democratic leader is aware"...  awoke_in_2003   Oct-23-10 04:05 PM   #71 
     - Fetal Progressives.  Jakes Progress   Oct-22-10 07:36 AM   #13 
        - Another example of teacher-bashing.  offog   Oct-22-10 05:18 PM   #57 
           - Uh  Jakes Progress   Oct-23-10 06:37 AM   #68 
     - Why did you not expect the NYC DOE to comply with the First Amendment?  msanthrope   Oct-22-10 08:37 AM   #20 
  - thanks, mad, for keeping us informed on this topic.  bbgrunt   Oct-21-10 11:23 PM   #5 
  - k & r  Starry Messenger   Oct-21-10 11:34 PM   #6 
  - Yes, they, the neo-libs-cons the New World Order crowd  sabrina 1   Oct-22-10 02:03 PM   #50 
  - This is going to backfire on Obama  proud2BlibKansan   Oct-21-10 11:45 PM   #7 
  - Is hurting Democrats now. I had dinner  Jakes Progress   Oct-22-10 07:41 AM   #14 
  - Lesson Plan  zenprole   Oct-22-10 02:23 AM   #8 
  - He's supporting the First Amendment--these are press FOIL requests.  msanthrope   Oct-22-10 08:33 AM   #18 
  - knr  Hannah Bell   Oct-22-10 02:27 AM   #9 
  - Morning kick  Reader Rabbit   Oct-22-10 06:33 AM   #10 
  - Published flawed test scores would subject New York City to litigation in two ways:  no_hypocrisy   Oct-22-10 06:47 AM   #11 
  - Really? Explain how lawful compliance with FOIL would lead to any of the suits you mention. n/t  msanthrope   Oct-22-10 08:31 AM   #17 
     - you need to take the word "lawful" out of your question n/t  KurtNYC   Oct-22-10 08:36 AM   #19 
     - Tell us, what is 'unlawful' about the FOIL request?  msanthrope   Oct-22-10 08:41 AM   #21 
        - Who is "us" ? -- I just see you posting the same thing 5 times in a  KurtNYC   Oct-22-10 09:13 AM   #27 
           - It would be great if you gave some facts--how are these disclosures unlawful? n/t  msanthrope   Oct-22-10 09:31 AM   #30 
     - If the method by which the findings are calculated, there's the problem of  no_hypocrisy   Oct-22-10 09:13 AM   #26 
        - But you still aren't explaining how that leads to liability on anyone's part--  msanthrope   Oct-22-10 09:36 AM   #31 
           - If the results are suspect and unreliable, and the particular score leads to  no_hypocrisy   Oct-22-10 10:23 AM   #33 
           - How would the results lead to a discharge? In NYC? Home of the Rubber Room?  msanthrope   Oct-22-10 10:32 AM   #34 
              - They got rid of the rubber rooms  proud2BlibKansan   Oct-22-10 10:41 PM   #65 
           - none filed because the "ratings" published weren't part of school personnel files, but a bill gates-  Hannah Bell   Oct-22-10 11:39 AM   #40 
  - Would they publish doctor names w/how many patients died, or lawyers' w/how many cases they lost??  demodonkey   Oct-22-10 06:51 AM   #12 
  - Damn good argument, demodonkey!  offog   Oct-22-10 05:58 PM   #59 
  - he did`t improve the chicago schools and....  madrchsod   Oct-22-10 08:11 AM   #15 
  - This is a VERY misleading OP!!!! Should NYC schools not comply with FOIL requests from the press?  msanthrope   Oct-22-10 08:27 AM   #16 
  - .  Hannah Bell   Oct-22-10 11:40 AM   #41 
  - hmm...  chervilant   Oct-22-10 01:41 PM   #48 
  - Yes, let's put people in danger by releasing personal info  fascisthunter   Oct-22-10 08:42 AM   #22 
  - So how do you balance the First Amendment right of the press, who did the FOIL requests?  msanthrope   Oct-22-10 08:49 AM   #23 
     - rrrrright...let's use the press to single out teachers  fascisthunter   Oct-22-10 09:04 AM   #24 
        - The press filed the FOILs--not Arne Duncan, not President Obama, not  msanthrope   Oct-22-10 09:07 AM   #25 
           - Singling out teachers by using the media  fascisthunter   Oct-22-10 09:15 AM   #28 
              - I think the media has the right to certain information about public employees. Cops, garbagemen,  msanthrope   Oct-22-10 09:29 AM   #29 
                 - What if the stats are proven to be unreliable?  Catshrink   Oct-22-10 04:25 PM   #54 
                    - I agree with Catshrink ....  offog   Oct-22-10 05:42 PM   #58 
                       - Thank you Catshrink and offog. I was about to suggest  callous taoboy   Oct-22-10 09:27 PM   #61 
  - What's far more damaging to education  sulphurdunn   Oct-22-10 09:56 AM   #32 
  - +1  QC   Oct-22-10 10:58 AM   #35 
  - .  fascisthunter   Oct-22-10 11:03 AM   #36 
  - This is another perfect illustration...  ljm2002   Oct-22-10 11:08 AM   #37 
  - Someone just reminded me of this interview with Arne by a teacher.  madfloridian   Oct-22-10 11:21 AM   #38 
  - Excellent! nt  laughingliberal   Oct-22-10 11:42 AM   #42 
  - What happens to a former teacher who is no longer working but gets her name and score published?  erodriguez   Oct-22-10 11:35 AM   #39 
  - Everything you write is true. And completely legal.  msanthrope   Oct-22-10 12:08 PM   #45 
     - hmm...  chervilant   Oct-22-10 01:57 PM   #49 
        - Lol that guy is my ignore list  erodriguez   Oct-22-10 04:16 PM   #51 
        - Mine, too.  madfloridian   Oct-22-10 04:19 PM   #52 
        - I briefly took him off to see what he was speaking of.  erodriguez   Oct-22-10 04:45 PM   #56 
        - Heh heh  madfloridian   Oct-22-10 04:20 PM   #53 
        - Well,  chervilant   Oct-22-10 11:27 PM   #66 
        - LOL Great call!!  proud2BlibKansan   Oct-22-10 10:39 PM   #64 
           - Bwahahahahaha!!!  chervilant   Oct-23-10 06:07 AM   #67 
  - Duncan needs to go  patty2828   Oct-22-10 11:47 AM   #43 
  - I HATE TO SAY THIS, no  cjbgreen   Oct-22-10 12:04 PM   #44 
  - looks like that, yes.  Hannah Bell   Oct-22-10 12:11 PM   #46 
  - Rahm or Obama? And they used the kids from "Waiting for Superman"  EFerrari   Oct-22-10 12:12 PM   #47 
  - The unintended consequences of these types of measures  erodriguez   Oct-22-10 04:26 PM   #55 
  - How Will Teachers Respond in 2010 and 2012?  Dinger   Oct-22-10 08:44 PM   #60 
  - Yes. every child is hermetically sealed except when in my care.  callous taoboy   Oct-22-10 09:43 PM   #62 
  - Oh hell to the no!  Dappleganger   Oct-22-10 09:46 PM   #63 
  - Let's see Arne post HIS credentials, or lack thereof!  DailyGrind51   Oct-23-10 08:33 AM   #69 
  - Interesting teacher scores are posted, but not doctor's scores.  EndElectoral   Oct-23-10 12:44 PM   #70 
 

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