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19. True enough. Imagine the defense a Republican administration would put on
Complete with side show about showers and all other dog whistling garbage.

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  -It is complete and utter BS to say "Obama HAS to appeal DADT decision". Statistical  Oct-20-10 01:35 PM   #0 
  - This one completely defies logic.  HopeHoops   Oct-20-10 01:39 PM   #1 
  - Does this Judge's ruling go beyond the Federal District that he is a part of?  pnwmom   Oct-20-10 01:40 PM   #2 
  - Directly it applies to one district however there is nothing to prevent  Statistical   Oct-20-10 01:46 PM   #4 
     - Did you look at the actual 'defense' of this case by the DOJ?  msanthrope   Oct-20-10 02:37 PM   #14 
  - Correct and agreed. n/t  EFerrari   Oct-20-10 01:41 PM   #3 
  - I heard an argument on TRMS that seemed to make some sense to me  soleft   Oct-20-10 01:47 PM   #5 
  - It wasn't Turley  jgraz   Oct-20-10 02:04 PM   #11 
     - Turley also supported impeaching Clinton--take his legal acumen with a grain of salt. n/t  msanthrope   Oct-20-10 02:38 PM   #15 
        - I couldn't care less about that.  jgraz   Oct-20-10 08:07 PM   #71 
  - It's fierce advocacy.  Ignis   Oct-20-10 01:49 PM   #6 
  - Fierce advocacy doesn't have to be blind.  Statistical   Oct-20-10 01:51 PM   #8 
  - Let's be honest: It's political CYA.  Ignis   Oct-20-10 02:01 PM   #10 
     - +1  leftstreet   Oct-20-10 02:39 PM   #17 
     - +!  EFerrari   Oct-20-10 03:26 PM   #28 
  - ....  laughingliberal   Oct-20-10 03:23 PM   #26 
     - Loved that pic.  Ignis   Oct-20-10 06:19 PM   #67 
  - Recommend  xchrom   Oct-20-10 01:50 PM   #7 
  - Maybe he just wants credit for repealing DADT? (nt)  ieoeja   Oct-20-10 01:57 PM   #9 
  - I hope that isn't the case.  Statistical   Oct-20-10 02:32 PM   #12 
  - Only Congress can repeal, not him. n/t  msanthrope   Oct-20-10 02:38 PM   #16 
  - Other courts have not found DADT to be unconstitutional.  msanthrope   Oct-20-10 02:36 PM   #13 
  - True enough. Imagine the defense a Republican administration would put on  treestar   Oct-20-10 02:43 PM   #19 
  - The DOJ is only obligated to defend Constitutional laws.  Statistical   Oct-20-10 03:13 PM   #20 
  - People are letting their emotions work on them  treestar   Oct-20-10 02:42 PM   #18 
  - Some people just can't accept that Obama can do wrong.  Statistical   Oct-20-10 03:16 PM   #22 
  - "People" understand very well that Obama is unnecessarily appealing  EFerrari   Oct-20-10 03:17 PM   #23 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-20-10 03:14 PM   #21 
  - He was full of it then and he continued to be full of it every time you post this.  EFerrari   Oct-20-10 03:20 PM   #25 
  - lol! I'll take a Democratic Solicitor General's word over an anonymous blogger's any day.  ClarkUSA   Oct-20-10 03:29 PM   #29 
  - Faith based reasoning. And, btw, I post under my own name.  EFerrari   Oct-20-10 03:31 PM   #31 
  - Yes, I have faith in Walter Dellinger's knowledge of constitutional law more than yours.  ClarkUSA   Oct-20-10 03:33 PM   #35 
     - Exactly. You're arguing his authority and not his reasoning. Thank you. n/t  EFerrari   Oct-20-10 03:38 PM   #38 
        - No, I trust Dellinger's knowledge of constitutional law more than yours or anyone else's at DU.  ClarkUSA   Oct-20-10 03:46 PM   #40 
  - What about the word of the Clinton attorney general who failed to appeal Dorman amendment?  Statistical   Oct-20-10 03:31 PM   #33 
  - Who said anybody had to convince you?  Touchdown   Oct-21-10 01:37 AM   #75 
  - You are aware that Obama OPPOSED prop 8 yes?  Bodhi BloodWave   Oct-21-10 12:46 AM   #74 
     - You are aware that doesn't mean shit, yes?  Touchdown   Oct-21-10 01:39 AM   #76 
  - BS. In 1996 the Clinton administration CHOSE not to appeal a law barring HIV+ soldiers.  Statistical   Oct-20-10 03:25 PM   #27 
  - Seems to be ignoring, along with others, that the injunction doesn't prevent repeal of the law...  laughingliberal   Oct-20-10 03:29 PM   #30 
     - So what? You're ignoring, once again, Dellinger's point.  ClarkUSA   Oct-20-10 03:31 PM   #32 
     - Dellinger is as entitled to his opinion as I am to ignore it. nt  laughingliberal   Oct-20-10 03:32 PM   #34 
     - That "delicate dance" business is repulsive.  EFerrari   Oct-20-10 03:35 PM   #36 
        - I think they wore out '11th dimensional chess.' And, being a 'gay' issue makes 'dance' appropo. nt  laughingliberal   Oct-20-10 03:36 PM   #37 
        - Tell it to the Republicans in Congress.  ClarkUSA   Oct-20-10 03:45 PM   #39 
           - The Republicans in Congress aren't the moving party. Take some responsibility. n/t  EFerrari   Oct-20-10 03:46 PM   #41 
              - What does that mean? Then why did the DADT repeal vote in the Senate fail?  ClarkUSA   Oct-20-10 03:50 PM   #43 
                 - The Republicans in Congress are not filing this appeal. Obama is.  EFerrari   Oct-20-10 03:57 PM   #45 
                    - The WH has probably decided this is going to the Supreme Court if Congress won't repeal it.  ClarkUSA   Oct-20-10 04:00 PM   #46 
                       - Exactly. Reckless. n/t  EFerrari   Oct-20-10 04:02 PM   #47 
                          - lol! No, it's absolutely the best thing to do. Either Congress or the SCOTUS has the final word.  ClarkUSA   Oct-20-10 04:06 PM   #48 
                             - But Obama said he wanted to end DADT, not get the final word.  EFerrari   Oct-20-10 04:20 PM   #49 
                             - I'm not interested in playing semantic games with you.  ClarkUSA   Oct-20-10 04:33 PM   #54 
                                - It's not a semantic game. Getting the final word is not the same  EFerrari   Oct-20-10 04:36 PM   #56 
                                   - lol!  ClarkUSA   Oct-20-10 04:40 PM   #59 
                                      - That's what I thought.  EFerrari   Oct-20-10 04:41 PM   #62 
                             - But according to Obama, he is interested not in the final word  EFerrari   Oct-20-10 04:23 PM   #50 
                                - Obama is also interested in cap and trade. That does not mean he is going to enact it by fiat.  BzaDem   Oct-20-10 04:36 PM   #55 
                                   - Oh, baloney. After this point. Barack Obama can no longer claim  EFerrari   Oct-20-10 04:38 PM   #57 
                                      - After this point, Barack Obama can no longer claim he is for cap in trade. Because the course of  BzaDem   Oct-20-10 04:39 PM   #58 
                                         - Congress has nothing to do with this appeal. Fail. n/t  EFerrari   Oct-20-10 04:41 PM   #61 
                                            - In general, you are saying all that matters is the outcome. Not the legality of how the outcome is  BzaDem   Oct-20-10 04:42 PM   #63 
                                               - +1000  ClarkUSA   Oct-20-10 04:57 PM   #65 
                                               - Wrong. BARACK OBAMA said he wanted a good outcome.  EFerrari   Oct-20-10 05:24 PM   #66 
                                                  - "Wanting a good outcome" implies "wanting a legal outcome." This is not difficult to understand. n/t  BzaDem   Oct-20-10 07:03 PM   #68 
  - K & R nt  laughingliberal   Oct-20-10 03:18 PM   #24 
  - It's appalling  Recursion   Oct-20-10 03:48 PM   #42 
  - When you're right you're right. K/R. nt  Romulox   Oct-20-10 03:51 PM   #44 
  - The problem is that there is circuit court precedent upholding DADT that is directly on point.  BzaDem   Oct-20-10 04:28 PM   #51 
  - True if you don't want an appellate level opinion  grantcart   Oct-20-10 04:32 PM   #52 
  - But I thought the outcome is what mattered to Obama.  EFerrari   Oct-20-10 04:40 PM   #60 
     - I don't time to do an exhaustive search but when the issue first broke  grantcart   Oct-20-10 04:51 PM   #64 
     - One person. He found one person.  Prism   Oct-20-10 07:05 PM   #69 
        - I never thought I would see the day where doing something the legal way is merely "agreeing with  BzaDem   Oct-20-10 07:24 PM   #70 
  - Your citation does not mean what you think it means.  ClarkUSA   Oct-20-10 04:32 PM   #53 
  - There seems precedent for the DOJ not appealing and  suffragette   Oct-20-10 11:44 PM   #72 
  - Thank you for this information, suffragette  sabrina 1   Oct-22-10 12:57 AM   #77 
     - Thanks. I found the part about them letting the court handle conflicting decisions  suffragette   Oct-22-10 01:31 AM   #78 
        - That is an excellent point. Someone in my thread made  sabrina 1   Oct-22-10 01:34 AM   #79 
           - Clearly different standards  suffragette   Oct-22-10 02:44 AM   #80 
  - Like those you criticize, you oversimplify a bit.  Unvanguard   Oct-21-10 12:02 AM   #73 
  - I was told that the DADT issue is about separation of powers.  LiberalAndProud   Oct-22-10 04:51 AM   #81 
 

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