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Mon Oct-18-10 01:18 PM
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| 32. I think America's worst idea is our politicians have sold us out to the Corporate |
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We're now under the control of the Corporate. Millions of jobs have moved out of this country because they want a return of SLAVERY!!! Cheap labor, child labor, slaves. You buy $8 jeans at Wal-Mart that was made by a slave child. We don't have Universal Health Care because our politicians took bribes from insurance companies/big pharma to VOTE their way. Now many of us are dying because we don't have money they are asking for/demanding that we spend thousands of dollars just for a crumb of medical care. There are many more things our politicans have done this country WRONG. Like two wars, education, middle class, jobs, catering to the super rich by giving them HUGE tax cuts leaving us to hold their stinky bag and they're playing around with SS and Medicare.
Why doesn't anyone see this fact?
FORGET the Confederacy. Thousands and thousands of men have died to do away with slavery in this country. All for nothing as far as I am concerned.
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| -The Confederacy: America's Worst Idea |
neverforget |
Oct-17-10 08:29 PM |
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I don't see what's "embarrassing" about it... |
MellowDem |
Oct-17-10 08:39 PM |
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also... |
handmade34 |
Oct-17-10 08:41 PM |
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I've been lucky enough to see James Loewen speak a couple times |
nemo137 |
Oct-17-10 11:30 PM |
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Sigh... they DID secede because of states rights. |
Kalyke |
Oct-18-10 01:58 PM |
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Thank you! +10000 |
Bryn |
Oct-18-10 03:42 PM |
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Many people *believed* the Iraq war was about stopping terrorism |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Oct-19-10 09:54 AM |
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Precisely |
Sherman A1 |
Oct-20-10 11:16 AM |
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Thanks for the link--I'll look for that book. nt |
raccoon |
Oct-20-10 07:49 AM |
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In the south |
Just One Woman |
Oct-17-10 08:47 PM |
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You are quite the prognosticator. |
deaniac21 |
Oct-17-10 10:58 PM |
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I live here, too. The conflict is already here, and it keeps growing. |
loudsue |
Oct-18-10 12:05 PM |
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So long as they ignore the entire Constitution they were right... |
Ozymanithrax |
Oct-17-10 08:51 PM |
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Very good article, but the comments at the article are embarrassing |
provis99 |
Oct-17-10 09:27 PM |
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It's really sick knowing that people still defend the Confederacy.... |
neverforget |
Oct-17-10 10:06 PM |
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We had a two hour discussion about what would have happened if the war wasn't fought and |
AlinPA |
Oct-17-10 09:55 PM |
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Spike Lee made a compelling movie about your 2nd scenario: |
VioletLake |
Oct-17-10 10:17 PM |
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Thanks, I'll take a look at it. |
AlinPA |
Oct-17-10 10:24 PM |
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I found it on YouTube |
AspenRose |
Oct-19-10 05:41 PM |
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Wasn't that a comedy? |
Ter |
Oct-17-10 11:06 PM |
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I don't know if the movie was intended to be a comedy, |
VioletLake |
Oct-18-10 09:12 AM |
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Not necessarily a comedy. A mockumentary |
Caliman73 |
Oct-18-10 12:00 PM |
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Slight edit |
MedicalAdmin |
Oct-18-10 11:41 AM |
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Thanks for the correction, MedicalAdmin. nt |
VioletLake |
Oct-18-10 05:16 PM |
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Spike produced this film, which was 'made' or directed by |
Bluenorthwest |
Oct-18-10 02:26 PM |
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I see that now. Thanks, Bluenorthwest. nt |
VioletLake |
Oct-18-10 05:17 PM |
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I'm strating to think that the idea that you can punish the Dems by not voting is right up there |
Capn Sunshine |
Oct-17-10 11:50 PM |
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I keep repeating that over and over. That argument is apparently |
Kahuna |
Oct-20-10 12:48 PM |
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If we had let the south secede, |
CanonRay |
Oct-18-10 09:23 AM |
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That's probably a good prediction of what could have happened. |
neverforget |
Oct-18-10 11:18 AM |
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I'm a member of a Civil War Roundtable |
DemocracyInaction |
Oct-18-10 11:33 AM |
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Had we let them go, the Confederacy would have started a war anyway. |
ieoeja |
Oct-18-10 01:30 PM |
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Bet you don't know these following points: |
DemocracyInaction |
Oct-18-10 11:24 AM |
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They didn't have a majority |
Gaedel |
Oct-18-10 11:40 AM |
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If you add the border states |
DemocracyInaction |
Oct-18-10 11:58 AM |
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Congressional Reaportionment after the 1850 Census |
Gaedel |
Oct-18-10 01:24 PM |
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One of the reasons for succession was loss of power |
Confusious |
Oct-19-10 03:25 AM |
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The Mexican American war started it all |
Confusious |
Oct-19-10 03:14 AM |
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Might I recommend? |
Gaedel |
Oct-19-10 08:36 AM |
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From where I sit they won |
Scruffy1 |
Oct-18-10 12:12 PM |
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Lots of Southerners didn't want to secede. Check this out: |
raccoon |
Oct-18-10 11:46 AM |
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Many of the southern officers |
DemocracyInaction |
Oct-18-10 12:07 PM |
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Let us not forget the Southern Unionists, mainly of the Appalachians |
theHandpuppet |
Oct-18-10 01:08 PM |
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Thanks! |
Kalyke |
Oct-18-10 02:02 PM |
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Sam Houston tried hard to keep Texas from seceeding |
CanonRay |
Oct-19-10 05:16 PM |
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And if the Brits had won, people would be saying that the American Revolution was America's worst |
raccoon |
Oct-18-10 11:48 AM |
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sometimes I wonder about that Revolution |
hfojvt |
Oct-18-10 12:54 PM |
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Interesting idea |
Spike89 |
Oct-18-10 02:44 PM |
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that's possible, of course, |
hfojvt |
Oct-18-10 03:52 PM |
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Yeah, alternate history can make you dizzy |
Spike89 |
Oct-19-10 04:42 PM |
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since all of our neighbors had already abandoned slavery, Im pretty sure the Confederacy would still |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Oct-19-10 04:44 AM |
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Tea Partiers are worse... |
JCMach1 |
Oct-18-10 12:47 PM |
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Confederacy, secession, states rights are proxy issues |
Terry in Austin |
Oct-18-10 12:57 PM |
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I think America's worst idea is our politicians have sold us out to the Corporate |
Bryn |
Oct-18-10 01:18 PM |
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+1000 |
waiting for hope |
Oct-18-10 01:41 PM |
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Did you seriously just compare your life to that of an slave in the antebellum south? |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Oct-19-10 04:49 AM |
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The fact still stands that America is condoning Slavery |
Bryn |
Oct-19-10 01:23 PM |
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Ugh.... try being an actual slave. nt |
CBR |
Oct-19-10 10:21 AM |
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I'm sorry, but "all for nothing" is so disgusting that it's difficult to believe that |
suzie |
Oct-20-10 10:54 AM |
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Thank you for putting on your hip-boots and wading in here to say that. |
Hekate |
Oct-21-10 01:40 AM |
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The Confederacy is one of the most shameful parts of America history. |
TexasObserver |
Oct-18-10 01:25 PM |
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Heh. No need for me to say much of anything now. You said it all. nt |
DevonRex |
Oct-18-10 01:38 PM |
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Flags are glorified national gang colors and the same holds true for the U.S. Flag. |
Uncle Joe |
Oct-18-10 01:58 PM |
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The topic is the Confederacy, and how some unreconstructed racists worship it. |
TexasObserver |
Oct-18-10 02:03 PM |
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You can't address one without the other, of course you will have racists worship the long dead |
Uncle Joe |
Oct-18-10 02:11 PM |
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Just wanted to make sure you weren't dodging and deflecting. |
TexasObserver |
Oct-18-10 02:19 PM |
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and the North is innocent? |
Bryn |
Oct-18-10 03:45 PM |
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The Confederacy was guilty of heinous treatment of slaves, and owning slaves. |
TexasObserver |
Oct-19-10 07:41 AM |
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Where in my posts did I say I love the Confederacy? |
Bryn |
Oct-19-10 01:13 PM |
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Because it's "heritage" and "history" |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Oct-19-10 05:09 AM |
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Yes, those are the buzz words they love to use to rationalize it. |
TexasObserver |
Oct-19-10 07:43 AM |
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A really bad idea but a helluva sales job. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Oct-18-10 01:40 PM |
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Pretty much what the GOP still does with the ignorant masses who support them. |
TexasObserver |
Oct-18-10 02:04 PM |
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Might we be smart enough to let them go this time? n/t |
Greyhound |
Oct-18-10 02:22 PM |
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They lost that ideological battle TWICE THE FUCK OVER |
Arkana |
Oct-18-10 02:24 PM |
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I would say it but I'm not. Too easy. n/t |
Fire1 |
Oct-18-10 02:55 PM |
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Thanks. |
Scurrilous |
Oct-19-10 01:08 AM |
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We should have let them go. |
JamesA1102 |
Oct-19-10 10:19 AM |
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Wouldn't be a good idea because |
Bryn |
Oct-19-10 01:10 PM |
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At least 1 if not both sides would have failed |
Spike89 |
Oct-19-10 04:52 PM |
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"America's Worst Idea" just got its own month to celebrate in Virginia |
AspenRose |
Oct-19-10 05:55 PM |
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All one needs to do is to review the 1790 debates in Congress to get an idea |
humblebum |
Oct-20-10 11:39 AM |
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