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Scruffy1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 12:12 PM
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27. From where I sit they won
Just look at some of the cretins in the senate. Demint, Bunning, Sessions, Shelby, Coburn, Imhoff, etc. And the Dems kiss their ass and treat them with respect. They don't even call them liars when they lie. Some Democracy. It's just all a sham and a fraud. They south controlled the Senate from about 1887-1965 and has run it like a fiefdom every since. Senatorial holds, holding up nominees, voting against cloture on every vote. these fascist assholes are making a laughing stock of out Republic, but that's there job. But it is the Democrats who piss me off.
they spineless ones are so afraid of offending anyone. It's just a rich, white gentlemans club and a total failure like it pretty much has been from day one of the constitution Even FDR never got one thing through the Senate after 1937.
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  -The Confederacy: America's Worst Idea neverforget  Oct-17-10 08:29 PM   #0 
  - I don't see what's "embarrassing" about it...  MellowDem   Oct-17-10 08:39 PM   #1 
  - also...  handmade34   Oct-17-10 08:41 PM   #2 
  - I've been lucky enough to see James Loewen speak a couple times  nemo137   Oct-17-10 11:30 PM   #12 
  - Sigh... they DID secede because of states rights.  Kalyke   Oct-18-10 01:58 PM   #40 
  - Thank you! +10000  Bryn   Oct-18-10 03:42 PM   #51 
  - Many people *believed* the Iraq war was about stopping terrorism  SemiCharmedQuark   Oct-19-10 09:54 AM   #65 
  - Precisely  Sherman A1   Oct-20-10 11:16 AM   #78 
  - Thanks for the link--I'll look for that book. nt  raccoon   Oct-20-10 07:49 AM   #76 
  - In the south  Just One Woman   Oct-17-10 08:47 PM   #3 
  - You are quite the prognosticator.  deaniac21   Oct-17-10 10:58 PM   #10 
  - I live here, too. The conflict is already here, and it keeps growing.  loudsue   Oct-18-10 12:05 PM   #25 
  - So long as they ignore the entire Constitution they were right...  Ozymanithrax   Oct-17-10 08:51 PM   #4 
  - Very good article, but the comments at the article are embarrassing  provis99   Oct-17-10 09:27 PM   #5 
  - It's really sick knowing that people still defend the Confederacy....  neverforget   Oct-17-10 10:06 PM   #7 
  - We had a two hour discussion about what would have happened if the war wasn't fought and  AlinPA   Oct-17-10 09:55 PM   #6 
  - Spike Lee made a compelling movie about your 2nd scenario:  VioletLake   Oct-17-10 10:17 PM   #8 
     - Thanks, I'll take a look at it.  AlinPA   Oct-17-10 10:24 PM   #9 
     - I found it on YouTube  AspenRose   Oct-19-10 05:41 PM   #74 
     - Wasn't that a comedy?  Ter   Oct-17-10 11:06 PM   #11 
     - I don't know if the movie was intended to be a comedy,  VioletLake   Oct-18-10 09:12 AM   #14 
     - Not necessarily a comedy. A mockumentary  Caliman73   Oct-18-10 12:00 PM   #24 
     - Slight edit  MedicalAdmin   Oct-18-10 11:41 AM   #20 
     - Thanks for the correction, MedicalAdmin. nt  VioletLake   Oct-18-10 05:16 PM   #54 
     - Spike produced this film, which was 'made' or directed by  Bluenorthwest   Oct-18-10 02:26 PM   #48 
        - I see that now. Thanks, Bluenorthwest. nt  VioletLake   Oct-18-10 05:17 PM   #55 
  - I'm strating to think that the idea that you can punish the Dems by not voting is right up there  Capn Sunshine   Oct-17-10 11:50 PM   #13 
  - I keep repeating that over and over. That argument is apparently  Kahuna   Oct-20-10 12:48 PM   #80 
  - If we had let the south secede,  CanonRay   Oct-18-10 09:23 AM   #15 
  - That's probably a good prediction of what could have happened.  neverforget   Oct-18-10 11:18 AM   #16 
     - I'm a member of a Civil War Roundtable  DemocracyInaction   Oct-18-10 11:33 AM   #18 
        - Had we let them go, the Confederacy would have started a war anyway.  ieoeja   Oct-18-10 01:30 PM   #35 
  - Bet you don't know these following points:  DemocracyInaction   Oct-18-10 11:24 AM   #17 
  - They didn't have a majority  Gaedel   Oct-18-10 11:40 AM   #19 
  - If you add the border states  DemocracyInaction   Oct-18-10 11:58 AM   #23 
  - Congressional Reaportionment after the 1850 Census  Gaedel   Oct-18-10 01:24 PM   #33 
  - One of the reasons for succession was loss of power  Confusious   Oct-19-10 03:25 AM   #58 
  - The Mexican American war started it all  Confusious   Oct-19-10 03:14 AM   #57 
     - Might I recommend?  Gaedel   Oct-19-10 08:36 AM   #64 
  - From where I sit they won  Scruffy1   Oct-18-10 12:12 PM   #27 
  - Lots of Southerners didn't want to secede. Check this out:  raccoon   Oct-18-10 11:46 AM   #21 
  - Many of the southern officers  DemocracyInaction   Oct-18-10 12:07 PM   #26 
  - Let us not forget the Southern Unionists, mainly of the Appalachians  theHandpuppet   Oct-18-10 01:08 PM   #31 
  - Thanks!  Kalyke   Oct-18-10 02:02 PM   #41 
  - Sam Houston tried hard to keep Texas from seceeding  CanonRay   Oct-19-10 05:16 PM   #73 
  - And if the Brits had won, people would be saying that the American Revolution was America's worst  raccoon   Oct-18-10 11:48 AM   #22 
  - sometimes I wonder about that Revolution  hfojvt   Oct-18-10 12:54 PM   #29 
  - Interesting idea  Spike89   Oct-18-10 02:44 PM   #49 
     - that's possible, of course,  hfojvt   Oct-18-10 03:52 PM   #53 
        - Yeah, alternate history can make you dizzy  Spike89   Oct-19-10 04:42 PM   #71 
  - since all of our neighbors had already abandoned slavery, Im pretty sure the Confederacy would still  SemiCharmedQuark   Oct-19-10 04:44 AM   #59 
  - Tea Partiers are worse...  JCMach1   Oct-18-10 12:47 PM   #28 
  - Confederacy, secession, states rights are proxy issues  Terry in Austin   Oct-18-10 12:57 PM   #30 
  - I think America's worst idea is our politicians have sold us out to the Corporate  Bryn   Oct-18-10 01:18 PM   #32 
  - +1000  waiting for hope   Oct-18-10 01:41 PM   #38 
  - Did you seriously just compare your life to that of an slave in the antebellum south?  SemiCharmedQuark   Oct-19-10 04:49 AM   #60 
  - The fact still stands that America is condoning Slavery  Bryn   Oct-19-10 01:23 PM   #70 
  - Ugh.... try being an actual slave. nt  CBR   Oct-19-10 10:21 AM   #67 
  - I'm sorry, but "all for nothing" is so disgusting that it's difficult to believe that  suzie   Oct-20-10 10:54 AM   #77 
     - Thank you for putting on your hip-boots and wading in here to say that.  Hekate   Oct-21-10 01:40 AM   #81 
  - The Confederacy is one of the most shameful parts of America history.  TexasObserver   Oct-18-10 01:25 PM   #34 
  - Heh. No need for me to say much of anything now. You said it all. nt  DevonRex   Oct-18-10 01:38 PM   #36 
  - Flags are glorified national gang colors and the same holds true for the U.S. Flag.  Uncle Joe   Oct-18-10 01:58 PM   #39 
  - The topic is the Confederacy, and how some unreconstructed racists worship it.  TexasObserver   Oct-18-10 02:03 PM   #42 
     - You can't address one without the other, of course you will have racists worship the long dead  Uncle Joe   Oct-18-10 02:11 PM   #44 
        - Just wanted to make sure you weren't dodging and deflecting.  TexasObserver   Oct-18-10 02:19 PM   #45 
  - and the North is innocent?  Bryn   Oct-18-10 03:45 PM   #52 
  - The Confederacy was guilty of heinous treatment of slaves, and owning slaves.  TexasObserver   Oct-19-10 07:41 AM   #62 
     - Where in my posts did I say I love the Confederacy?  Bryn   Oct-19-10 01:13 PM   #69 
  - Because it's "heritage" and "history"  SemiCharmedQuark   Oct-19-10 05:09 AM   #61 
     - Yes, those are the buzz words they love to use to rationalize it.  TexasObserver   Oct-19-10 07:43 AM   #63 
  - A really bad idea but a helluva sales job.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Oct-18-10 01:40 PM   #37 
  - Pretty much what the GOP still does with the ignorant masses who support them.  TexasObserver   Oct-18-10 02:04 PM   #43 
  - Might we be smart enough to let them go this time? n/t  Greyhound   Oct-18-10 02:22 PM   #46 
  - They lost that ideological battle TWICE THE FUCK OVER  Arkana   Oct-18-10 02:24 PM   #47 
  - I would say it but I'm not. Too easy. n/t  Fire1   Oct-18-10 02:55 PM   #50 
  - Thanks.  Scurrilous   Oct-19-10 01:08 AM   #56 
  - We should have let them go.  JamesA1102   Oct-19-10 10:19 AM   #66 
  - Wouldn't be a good idea because  Bryn   Oct-19-10 01:10 PM   #68 
  - At least 1 if not both sides would have failed  Spike89   Oct-19-10 04:52 PM   #72 
  - "America's Worst Idea" just got its own month to celebrate in Virginia  AspenRose   Oct-19-10 05:55 PM   #75 
  - All one needs to do is to review the 1790 debates in Congress to get an idea  humblebum   Oct-20-10 11:39 AM   #79 
 

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