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115. It is a good point, but I was worried for you as well. NT
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  -I got called a faggot at work today dsc  Oct-14-10 05:14 PM   #0 
  - Wow...  WillParkinson   Oct-14-10 05:16 PM   #1 
  - Goodness. Me too. I was getting so angry. Good OP. Rec'd n/t  Catherina   Oct-14-10 05:22 PM   #15 
  - sorry didn't mean to worry you  dsc   Oct-14-10 05:26 PM   #23 
  - You made it very well. I was so relieved when I got to the end.  Catherina   Oct-14-10 10:05 PM   #127 
  - You made it very well n/t  Chulanowa   Oct-15-10 12:14 AM   #147 
  - Me three. Thought it was real for the first couple of sentences  Liberal_in_LA   Oct-14-10 07:50 PM   #104 
  - I was too!  a la izquierda   Oct-15-10 07:02 AM   #163 
  - didn't mean to worry you but thought I needed to do this to make my point  dsc   Oct-14-10 05:26 PM   #21 
  - and it is a good point  proud patriot   Oct-14-10 05:36 PM   #42 
  - Yes, it is a good way to make the point. And you got it across.  bobbolink   Oct-14-10 08:07 PM   #107 
  - It is a good point, but I was worried for you as well. NT  hendo   Oct-14-10 09:17 PM   #115 
  - My response...  SCantiGOP   Oct-15-10 02:44 PM   #198 
  - Why is it absurd for kids?  Behind the Aegis   Oct-14-10 05:16 PM   #2 
  - sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me....  ejpoeta   Oct-14-10 06:04 PM   #76 
  - You are absolutely right, and studies back you up on that!  bobbolink   Oct-14-10 08:08 PM   #108 
  - +1  Deep13   Oct-15-10 09:19 AM   #177 
  - The hurtful words are just to say  swimboy   Oct-15-10 12:25 PM   #190 
  - Well said!  kenfrequed   Oct-15-10 12:44 PM   #191 
  - Very true.  Behind the Aegis   Oct-15-10 01:13 PM   #195 
     - Words...  deathrind   Oct-15-10 03:29 PM   #203 
  - The saddest part is that kids who are bullies, are relaying what they are taught at home.  ooglymoogly   Oct-14-10 06:58 PM   #93 
  - that's true for the most part, but peer influence can trump upbringing  Ex Lurker   Oct-15-10 02:08 AM   #152 
  - Certainly a factor in "formative years" psychology and current thinking on the subject; however  ooglymoogly   Oct-15-10 11:11 AM   #182 
  - they also project their own feelings about themselves onto others. they pick people who can't fight  ejpoeta   Oct-15-10 05:18 AM   #158 
  - Bullies never learn  hendo   Oct-14-10 10:00 PM   #123 
  - What can I say? But you're so right.  CaliforniaPeggy   Oct-14-10 05:17 PM   #3 
  - how could you stop it?  Egnever   Oct-14-10 05:19 PM   #9 
     - Rules have no effect. That is certainly true.  CaliforniaPeggy   Oct-14-10 05:23 PM   #16 
     - kids are cruel  Egnever   Oct-14-10 05:35 PM   #41 
        - In kindergarten they often take each others' toys  eridani   Oct-14-10 09:25 PM   #116 
     - giving the bullying shits a good asskicking changes it.  Teaser   Oct-14-10 05:23 PM   #17 
     - Ya but thats against the rules  Egnever   Oct-14-10 05:32 PM   #39 
     - A little hard when you are  exboyfil   Oct-14-10 06:02 PM   #75 
     - oh I know  Teaser   Oct-14-10 09:37 PM   #120 
     - another thing to consider that was told me by a teacher  Ex Lurker   Oct-15-10 02:12 AM   #153 
     - A well thought out verbal ass kicking is often better and it is legal.  ooglymoogly   Oct-15-10 11:25 AM   #184 
     - substitute "nigger" for "faggot." Are you just as ok with that? nt  blondeatlast   Oct-14-10 05:23 PM   #18 
     - no one is ok with any of it  Egnever   Oct-14-10 05:26 PM   #25 
        - since not all cultures experience children and teens tormenting each other, CLEARLY  KittyWampus   Oct-14-10 05:30 PM   #34 
        - really what cultures have no bullying?  Egnever   Oct-14-10 05:32 PM   #37 
           - Yes there will always be bullying....some countries far less than  ooglymoogly   Oct-15-10 12:58 PM   #192 
        - Let me rephrase--should we not be concerned about the word "nigger"?  blondeatlast   Oct-14-10 05:41 PM   #44 
        - At least you hope he does  Egnever   Oct-14-10 05:45 PM   #51 
           - wow--how many kids do you have? You seem to be chock full of parental wisdom  blondeatlast   Oct-14-10 05:47 PM   #56 
           - 3  Egnever   Oct-14-10 05:47 PM   #57 
              - On that you win. I do so hope none are gay or wear glasses or non-white or ...  blondeatlast   Oct-14-10 05:50 PM   #59 
                 - one has diabetes and wears a pump that looks like a pager  Egnever   Oct-14-10 05:54 PM   #62 
                    - Well, I'll be damned. So do I, and I had to take injections in school for years before I had that.  blondeatlast   Oct-14-10 05:56 PM   #67 
           - And where do they get these ideas from?  ooglymoogly   Oct-14-10 07:07 PM   #96 
           - Pugs? This little guy wouldnt hurt a fly  hendo   Oct-14-10 10:08 PM   #130 
              - They do not deserve the title Republican. They are authoritarian idiots  ooglymoogly   Oct-14-10 11:34 PM   #142 
           - You may be right that rules won't stop bad behavior  dddem   Oct-14-10 07:38 PM   #102 
           - Yeah, that's pretty much the same attitude.....  Amaril   Oct-15-10 08:31 AM   #174 
           - Part of the problem there is that many of those who  pacalo   Oct-15-10 03:11 PM   #200 
           - Social mores have, can and will continue...  LanternWaste   Oct-15-10 02:53 PM   #199 
        - Yeah, you're right - might as give up before even trying to effect change. Fuck it.  Rabrrrrrr   Oct-14-10 09:07 PM   #114 
        - The point is very few schools would put up with racial slurs  dflprincess   Oct-14-10 09:32 PM   #117 
     - Therefore it's okay! (nt)  Posteritatis   Oct-14-10 05:24 PM   #19 
     - of course its not  Egnever   Oct-14-10 05:29 PM   #32 
        - This coming from someone who seems to think we shouldn't try to address the problem. (nt)  Posteritatis   Oct-14-10 05:41 PM   #46 
           - any suggestions from you ? or just outrage!  Egnever   Oct-14-10 05:45 PM   #54 
              - Beats your indifferent dismissal of the problem.  Posteritatis   Oct-14-10 05:52 PM   #61 
     - Administrators and teachers can damn well stop  liberalhistorian   Oct-14-10 05:58 PM   #69 
     - Some care, and many more choose to look the other way.  Dappleganger   Oct-14-10 06:01 PM   #72 
     - +1  Kajsa   Oct-14-10 10:49 PM   #133 
     - if more would follow Drew Brees' example  SargeUNN   Oct-14-10 06:06 PM   #78 
     - Yes it would, Sarge.  Kajsa   Oct-14-10 10:50 PM   #135 
     - I love Drew Brees  dsc   Oct-14-10 10:52 PM   #137 
     - It's not part of growing up.  Kajsa   Oct-14-10 10:48 PM   #132 
     - Ah yes, but there is a rule....Its called the "golden rule".  ooglymoogly   Oct-15-10 12:06 PM   #187 
        - Your last paragraph illuminates a very important point.  pacalo   Oct-15-10 03:28 PM   #202 
  - Stop Calling it Bullying.  baldguy   Oct-14-10 05:17 PM   #4 
  - damn right.  Iris   Oct-14-10 05:18 PM   #8 
  - i think that is important. yes. nt  seabeyond   Oct-14-10 05:27 PM   #26 
  - You are right  exboyfil   Oct-14-10 05:32 PM   #38 
  - Yes, it would help to call it assault and criminal harassment. nt  polichick   Oct-14-10 05:58 PM   #68 
  - Amen +100000000000000000  uncommon   Oct-14-10 06:12 PM   #84 
  - +1  readmoreoften   Oct-15-10 03:41 PM   #204 
  - as sad as that story is  Egnever   Oct-14-10 05:17 PM   #5 
  - but... my kids have been in the system and bullying is not allowed. it is that simple  seabeyond   Oct-14-10 05:29 PM   #28 
  - right and they only need 16 dollars to go to the movies  Egnever   Oct-14-10 05:30 PM   #35 
  - wow. cause i or kids havent been to the movies in forever..... i cant know what is going on in kids  seabeyond   Oct-14-10 05:34 PM   #40 
     - nope that aint all  Egnever   Oct-14-10 05:41 PM   #45 
        - And I don't find any of yours acceptable or based in reality, either.  Dappleganger   Oct-14-10 05:59 PM   #71 
        - +1,000,000,000  Amaril   Oct-15-10 03:46 PM   #206 
        - ???? wow. a when and where, like i give a shit. but not remembering that.  seabeyond   Oct-14-10 06:02 PM   #74 
        - the reality is, there is not the bullying in the school, because it is not allowed. that has nothing  seabeyond   Oct-14-10 06:11 PM   #82 
  - I think  TuxedoKat   Oct-14-10 11:03 PM   #141 
  - Kids can be raised to oppose bullying, or perhaps  wellstone dem   Oct-15-10 07:13 AM   #167 
     - i have seen it. reinforces my belief. love that video. all the kids did well.  seabeyond   Oct-15-10 07:40 AM   #169 
  - Actually, you can  PVnRT   Oct-15-10 07:44 AM   #170 
  - Gays who know how to fight back don't get bashed as often  derby378   Oct-14-10 05:17 PM   #6 
  - So what? Not every gay kid has the temperament to fight back.  pnwmom   Oct-14-10 05:31 PM   #36 
  - This is the Quaker side of me talking - yes, it does  derby378   Oct-14-10 05:38 PM   #43 
  - I was real proud of my daughter  exboyfil   Oct-14-10 05:44 PM   #50 
  - Bad idea, IMO, once violence starts, if often escalates.  Hepburn   Oct-14-10 05:43 PM   #49 
  - I don't advocate starting fights - just ending them  derby378   Oct-14-10 05:45 PM   #52 
  - For some of us, an unreasonable fear gets whooped into us  HillWilliam   Oct-14-10 06:47 PM   #90 
  - Not a good idea UNLESS the person is trained to protect him/her self.  Hepburn   Oct-14-10 10:18 PM   #131 
  - The only effective way I found to handle bullies at the  exboyfil   Oct-14-10 05:54 PM   #63 
  - So they should... what, exactly? Curl up on the ground and wait for the blows to stop? (nt)  Posteritatis   Oct-14-10 06:14 PM   #86 
  - The victim isn't the one who decides when violence starts. nt  Deep13   Oct-15-10 09:18 AM   #176 
  - We do need to be promoting self-defense in our schools  bluestateguy   Oct-14-10 06:08 PM   #81 
  - On the other hand,  dddem   Oct-14-10 07:48 PM   #103 
     - That's exactly what would happen  dflprincess   Oct-14-10 09:37 PM   #119 
  - My son is enrolled in a "Creative Personal Defense" course.  Xithras   Oct-15-10 12:22 PM   #189 
  - Not according to science and history channels  Ter   Oct-15-10 03:47 PM   #207 
  - I have thought of this many times.  Iris   Oct-14-10 05:17 PM   #7 
  - kr  Norrin Radd   Oct-14-10 05:19 PM   #10 
  - Good point.  zanana1   Oct-14-10 05:19 PM   #11 
  - K&R n/t  muffin1   Oct-14-10 05:19 PM   #12 
  - Why, we're going to defend Valerie Jarrett and others who are misinformed, of course.  Stinky The Clown   Oct-14-10 05:20 PM   #13 
  - Being part of some of those threads...  boppers   Oct-15-10 02:28 AM   #154 
  - I think they should call the police  Just One Woman   Oct-14-10 05:21 PM   #14 
  - This is the same argument I make against spanking, actually.  Brickbat   Oct-14-10 05:25 PM   #20 
  - K&R n/t  myrna minx   Oct-14-10 05:26 PM   #22 
  - what we do dsc, is not allow it in our schools. my sons middle school is little enough  seabeyond   Oct-14-10 05:26 PM   #24 
  - Blame teachers?  donco6   Oct-14-10 05:28 PM   #27 
  - ya.... nt  seabeyond   Oct-14-10 05:29 PM   #30 
  - Only those of us who are paid five bucks an hour to dispense DLC hogwash do that.  Jim Sagle   Oct-15-10 10:41 AM   #180 
     - That is true - and I apologize to the majority of DU that DOESN'T do it.  donco6   Oct-15-10 11:48 AM   #185 
  - Well, after all, you made that lifestyle choice  Bluebear   Oct-14-10 05:29 PM   #29 
  - That's how I prefer it!  Behind the Aegis   Oct-14-10 05:29 PM   #33 
  - Great post, dsc. That's exactly how it is. n/t  pnwmom   Oct-14-10 05:29 PM   #31 
  - Pepper spray is effective against people trying to assault you.  MrSlayer   Oct-14-10 05:41 PM   #47 
  - have to agree  Egnever   Oct-14-10 05:49 PM   #58 
  - In school? Why should the victim get expelled? nt  blondeatlast   Oct-14-10 05:58 PM   #70 
  - Why would they for defending themselves?  MrSlayer   Oct-14-10 06:07 PM   #80 
     - Most schools' zero-tolerance policies forbid self-defense.  Posteritatis   Oct-14-10 06:13 PM   #85 
        - I should have explained that, but you are correct. It's written into the zero-tolerance  blondeatlast   Oct-14-10 07:08 PM   #97 
        - Okay, a school actually *requiring* an assault victim to submit to the attack is pretty audacious..  Posteritatis   Oct-14-10 07:23 PM   #100 
        - If the bully can get off scott free so can the erstwhile victim.  MrSlayer   Oct-14-10 07:16 PM   #99 
  - It would also be a good way to get yourself expelled from school...or worse.  AngryOldDem   Oct-14-10 10:50 PM   #134 
     - Well, you can either take shit or fight back.  MrSlayer   Oct-15-10 10:01 PM   #213 
  - K & R!  BzaDem   Oct-14-10 05:42 PM   #48 
  - Don't let it get to you is what I'd say  treestar   Oct-14-10 05:45 PM   #53 
  - Great post that brings home the terrible problem of gay bashing at schools.  TexasObserver   Oct-14-10 05:46 PM   #55 
  - Well put. The situation is heartbreaking...  polichick   Oct-14-10 05:52 PM   #60 
  - K&R  foxfeet   Oct-14-10 05:54 PM   #64 
  - Well, if you'd been smacked around more as a kid you'd be better able to stand up  petronius   Oct-14-10 05:56 PM   #65 
  - K&R. Well played.  Ignis   Oct-14-10 05:56 PM   #66 
  - Sorry this happened n/t  PROchoiceGA   Oct-14-10 06:02 PM   #73 
  - It didn't  dsc   Oct-14-10 06:05 PM   #77 
  - My daughter took out the class bully at 6  HockeyMom   Oct-14-10 06:06 PM   #79 
  - Good post. Rec.  Danger Mouse   Oct-14-10 06:11 PM   #83 
  - wow  littlewolf   Oct-14-10 06:26 PM   #87 
  - Excellent post! Well done  chelsea0011   Oct-14-10 06:31 PM   #88 
  - I have to compliment you on this post  adamuu   Oct-14-10 06:45 PM   #89 
  - Super post  malaise   Oct-14-10 06:49 PM   #91 
  - Excellent way to bring home the point. This has to be taken  Curmudgeoness   Oct-14-10 06:54 PM   #92 
  - Excellent way to teach. kr nt  ooglymoogly   Oct-14-10 07:01 PM   #94 
  - exactly... it must stop. it's not bullying I realize, it's HARRASSMENT & abuse (emo & phys)  Divine Discontent   Oct-14-10 07:06 PM   #95 
  - I had my keys in my hand  HillWilliam   Oct-14-10 07:13 PM   #98 
  - Another K&R.  David Zephyr   Oct-14-10 07:38 PM   #101 
  - THANK. YOU.  HughBeaumont   Oct-14-10 07:51 PM   #105 
  - Record the events... continue to record... call the ACLU  Captain Boomerang   Oct-14-10 07:59 PM   #106 
  - Oh, how Middle School of them  AnnieBW   Oct-14-10 08:15 PM   #109 
  - K&R nt  TBF   Oct-14-10 08:30 PM   #110 
  - Congratulations!!!  Jack_Dawson   Oct-14-10 08:31 PM   #111 
  - Get a good attorney  anachro1   Oct-14-10 08:59 PM   #112 
  - I've been there baby, many many times.  donheld   Oct-14-10 09:05 PM   #113 
  - We are going to take names and kick ass.  lonestarnot   Oct-14-10 09:34 PM   #118 
  - File a complaint with the EEOC in terms of workplace harassment  Hawkeye-X   Oct-14-10 09:43 PM   #121 
  - That reminds me of a job I had years ago. . .  kevinbgoode   Oct-15-10 03:24 AM   #156 
  - Maybe that would be a new tool for kids to use...after all it IS a  activa8tr   Oct-15-10 07:10 AM   #166 
  - The first couple of sentences are totally believable  southmost   Oct-14-10 09:47 PM   #122 
  - I've been called  femrap   Oct-14-10 10:03 PM   #124 
  - K&R - And BTW, I'm so glad that I went to a very liberal High School...  jennied   Oct-14-10 10:04 PM   #125 
  - Brings back memories, unfortunately.  SocialistLez   Oct-14-10 10:04 PM   #126 
  - I've said before  Radical Activist   Oct-14-10 10:05 PM   #128 
  - I don't think "we" accept that for kids. That's horrible.  Honeycombe8   Oct-14-10 10:05 PM   #129 
  - Thanks for posting this, Dsc!  Kajsa   Oct-14-10 10:52 PM   #136 
  - thanks  dsc   Oct-14-10 10:56 PM   #138 
  - When humans lose their humanity...  sagetea   Oct-14-10 10:56 PM   #139 
  - yes, much of this happened to my kids. I think that schools  demigoddess   Oct-14-10 10:59 PM   #140 
  - Absolutely nothing.  Greyhound   Oct-14-10 11:41 PM   #143 
  - K&R Excellent post  Dragonfli   Oct-14-10 11:46 PM   #144 
  - Even though you made up the story to make the point, I can believe  hedgehog   Oct-14-10 11:51 PM   #145 
  - What are we going to do to change this? Handguns. I like a solid steel automatic,  mistertrickster   Oct-15-10 12:09 AM   #146 
  - Rules...  saras   Oct-15-10 12:27 AM   #148 
  - I was really worried!  Meldread   Oct-15-10 01:25 AM   #149 
  - I'm not gay  pezDispenser   Oct-15-10 01:37 AM   #150 
  - k&r  Swamp Rat   Oct-15-10 01:39 AM   #151 
  - kids are mean little barbarians  bkozumplik   Oct-15-10 02:43 AM   #155 
  - A big K&R.....nt  Enthusiast   Oct-15-10 05:05 AM   #157 
  - Oh MY GOD! That's horrible!  onlyadream   Oct-15-10 06:27 AM   #159 
  - reread the post carefully  dsc   Oct-15-10 07:02 AM   #162 
     - oops, sorry - i missed the last paragraph for some reason  onlyadream   Oct-16-10 07:41 AM   #215 
  - Similar harassment ...  nicky187   Oct-15-10 06:28 AM   #160 
  - Time To Hire A Lawyer  ProfessorGAC   Oct-15-10 06:34 AM   #161 
  - very unlike you, reread the post carefully  dsc   Oct-15-10 07:03 AM   #164 
     - Duh! My Bad!  ProfessorGAC   Oct-15-10 08:13 AM   #172 
        - no problem as I said very unlike you  dsc   Oct-15-10 08:15 AM   #173 
  - GREAT POINTS!!!!!!!!!!!! You had me believing you in the  activa8tr   Oct-15-10 07:07 AM   #165 
  - I advise mine at my school  dsc   Oct-15-10 07:36 AM   #168 
     - Then you are doing your part! A big THANK YOU! from  activa8tr   Oct-15-10 08:10 AM   #171 
  - Great use of analogy..  The Uncola   Oct-15-10 08:40 AM   #175 
  - I bet it happens  bdamomma   Oct-15-10 09:56 AM   #178 
  - I have to point out  LWolf   Oct-15-10 10:27 AM   #179 
  - Perhaps THIS is the problem:  The Uncola   Oct-15-10 11:23 AM   #183 
     - Teachers can be fired for cause. And they are.  LWolf   Oct-15-10 04:38 PM   #209 
        - Nonsense.  The Uncola   Oct-16-10 07:34 AM   #214 
           - Students committing serious infractions can be expelled.  LWolf   Oct-16-10 11:11 AM   #216 
              - Keep right on..  The Uncola   Oct-16-10 11:53 AM   #217 
                 - Making excuses for WHAT failure, exactly?  LWolf   Oct-16-10 12:47 PM   #218 
                    - Analogies now have to..  The Uncola   Oct-16-10 01:11 PM   #219 
                       - I imagine that there's a wealth of things that are news to you.  LWolf   Oct-16-10 05:10 PM   #220 
  - Unproductive post.  krkaufman   Oct-15-10 10:52 AM   #181 
  - Excellent reality check  lumberjack_jeff   Oct-15-10 11:57 AM   #186 
  - I think you should see a lawyer, asap  AngryAmish   Oct-15-10 12:08 PM   #188 
  - k and r  izzybeans   Oct-15-10 01:05 PM   #193 
  - Thanks dsc. Well done. Very well done. n/t  Maru Kitteh   Oct-15-10 01:09 PM   #194 
  - My blood pressure went up when I first read this.  pacalo   Oct-15-10 02:03 PM   #196 
  - My eyes were tearing up.  marew   Oct-15-10 02:17 PM   #197 
  - Middle school was the worst time of my entire life  budkin   Oct-15-10 03:16 PM   #201 
  - Agree ... "bullying" really doesn't explain sufficiently what goes on ... and damage done.  defendandprotect   Oct-15-10 03:44 PM   #205 
  - Actually, I've been subject to this exact kind of harassment  Bette Noir   Oct-15-10 04:29 PM   #208 
  - Did the title change  Juche   Oct-15-10 04:43 PM   #210 
  - This post is so awesome, I came back to praise it again  adamuu   Oct-15-10 04:49 PM   #211 
  - You were subjected to an "uncomfortable work environment" and should file a grievance!  DailyGrind51   Oct-15-10 04:58 PM   #212 
 

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