Bonobo
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Wed Oct-13-10 06:26 AM
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| 9. Momentum alone did not lead to an increase in drone attacks in Pakistan. |
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Edited on Wed Oct-13-10 06:26 AM by Bonobo
That, as the poster above mentioned, falls under the Executive branch, a branch in which said poster admitted that the President enjoys broad powers and massive, almost singular, influence.
For those of us for whom war is so abhorrent, this alone can be understood as having driven away many followers from Obama.
It is...inexplicable, repellant, unacceptable.
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| -Inflexibility and denial |
Bonobo |
Oct-13-10 03:35 AM |
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Obama was not my first choice in the primaries. But when Edwards dropped out, |
JDPriestly |
Oct-13-10 03:45 AM |
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It really depends on your view on the structural impediments to change, historically and currently. |
BzaDem |
Oct-13-10 04:20 AM |
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I could mount an argument, a convincing one I think, that Bush enacted radical change. |
Bonobo |
Oct-13-10 04:26 AM |
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Well that would be in the executive sphere, where the President DOES have somewhat unilateral |
BzaDem |
Oct-13-10 04:30 AM |
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But....it took a catastrophic event (911) to enable the radical change |
Klukie |
Oct-13-10 08:24 AM |
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As catastrophic as the deliberate collapse of the economy? n/t |
Greyhound |
Oct-14-10 01:32 PM |
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+100000 |
Klukie |
Oct-13-10 08:25 AM |
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Good post...nt |
SidDithers |
Oct-13-10 08:50 AM |
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Never liked the phrase 'in denial' |
RandomThoughts |
Oct-13-10 04:22 AM |
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I'll have to decide once I hear an actual argument from the "other" side. |
Greyhound |
Oct-13-10 05:10 AM |
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I agree about waiting to hear an actual argument from the "other" side |
BzaDem |
Oct-13-10 05:15 AM |
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Can you "hear" yourself? |
cornermouse |
Oct-13-10 06:28 AM |
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Of course in your mind, I run into closed doors, and people turn and walk away from me. |
BzaDem |
Oct-13-10 06:37 AM |
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I can hear him/her....however |
Klukie |
Oct-13-10 08:29 AM |
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Do you want to start with the Health Insurance Industry Profit Protection Act? |
Greyhound |
Oct-14-10 01:29 PM |
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This is what I understand... |
MrScorpio |
Oct-13-10 06:16 AM |
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Momentum alone did not lead to an increase in drone attacks in Pakistan. |
Bonobo |
Oct-13-10 06:26 AM |
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While of course people who disagree with the war have a legitimate beef with Obama |
BzaDem |
Oct-13-10 06:42 AM |
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I'm sure that if you look honestly enough at every presidency... |
MrScorpio |
Oct-13-10 07:00 AM |
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Wars to me are not really an issue that fits into the category of... |
Bonobo |
Oct-13-10 07:10 AM |
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I've been reading Chomsky for the past 20 years... |
MrScorpio |
Oct-13-10 07:30 AM |
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Anyway you slice it, if there was ever going to be a turning point, it was 2008. |
Bonobo |
Oct-13-10 07:36 AM |
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I'm sorry, it's ALWAYS been the old Olds |
MrScorpio |
Oct-13-10 07:40 AM |
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Just keep in mind that it wasn't nearly as much of a victory as FDR and LBJ had. |
BzaDem |
Oct-13-10 07:40 AM |
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I think we were confused by.. |
KoKo |
Oct-13-10 07:55 AM |
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That hits the nail on the head, yup. nt |
Bonobo |
Oct-13-10 08:04 AM |
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+1 |
SammyWinstonJack |
Oct-13-10 08:26 AM |
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I'm known as a critic but not as well known is that I was an Obama delegate. |
mmonk |
Oct-13-10 06:55 AM |
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No one is saying a delegate can't be a critic. |
BzaDem |
Oct-13-10 07:02 AM |
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Did I say that? |
mmonk |
Oct-13-10 07:11 AM |
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"Much of the problem lies with the current condition of the party. " |
KoKo |
Oct-13-10 07:25 AM |
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Yes. Powerful people in the party have worked to scrap |
mmonk |
Oct-13-10 08:06 AM |
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I'm inflexible on this... |
Panaconda |
Oct-13-10 07:15 AM |
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Even while seeking to gut Medicare and reduce SS benefits. |
SammyWinstonJack |
Oct-13-10 08:30 AM |
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Me too. It's my first and biggest item. n/t |
Catherina |
Oct-13-10 04:32 PM |
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My complaint is not issure-oriented, but structural |
Doctor_J |
Oct-13-10 07:24 AM |
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The funny thing is, while Obama explicitly ran on bipartisanship in the primary, he has NOT |
BzaDem |
Oct-13-10 07:30 AM |
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Just because the Repukes didn't vote with him doesn't mean |
Doctor_J |
Oct-13-10 10:26 AM |
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I don't think we will get any of them as President. They are Straw People. |
KoKo |
Oct-13-10 07:47 AM |
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Ah, I miss the old DU... |
Bonobo |
Oct-13-10 08:06 AM |
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I do not think it is a clear choice between issues and party. |
CBR |
Oct-13-10 07:45 AM |
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On some issues, I AM inflexible. |
bvar22 |
Oct-13-10 08:06 AM |
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... |
SammyWinstonJack |
Oct-13-10 08:32 AM |
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AMEN! |
Odin2005 |
Oct-13-10 08:35 AM |
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Totally! n/t |
Catherina |
Oct-13-10 04:33 PM |
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This goes into my Bookmarks and the "Fridge Door"...(a place of honor in our house) |
KoKo |
Oct-13-10 06:46 PM |
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There are times to criticize and times support the party. Yes, i consider myself flexible. |
aikoaiko |
Oct-13-10 08:10 AM |
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Party and Administration are secondary |
blindpig |
Oct-13-10 08:19 AM |
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Bumping |
Panaconda |
Oct-13-10 04:09 PM |
#44 |
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