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Mon Oct-11-10 03:52 PM
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Just like we'll have one in a month saying Veteran's Day glorifies war, and one on Thanksgiving saying we raped the Indians then too.....and Christmas is evil, and.... and.....
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| -f*ck Columbus and the boat he sailed |
southmost |
Oct-11-10 03:29 AM |
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Because he goes good with a nice, steamy tub of buttery |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-11-10 03:33 AM |
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Columbus Day is brought to you by the same mentality that thinks General Custer is a hero, |
RC |
Oct-11-10 04:50 AM |
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as with all things |
melm00se |
Oct-11-10 04:59 AM |
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When Syphillis came to Europe originally it was MUCH more virulent then now. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-11-10 07:44 AM |
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it is also possible |
melm00se |
Oct-11-10 08:07 AM |
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How righteous. Now you go straight home and call your lawyer. |
aquart |
Oct-11-10 05:45 AM |
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Columbus opted not to baptize the natives because Catholic law forbade the enslavement of Christians |
Kolesar |
Oct-11-10 06:03 AM |
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You are aware natives enslaved each other all the time, right? |
HEyHEY |
Oct-11-10 10:22 PM |
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What a thoroughly irrelevant point... |
JackRiddler |
Oct-12-10 01:56 AM |
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I'm not justifying shit. But saying we "Brought" slavery to them is bullshit |
HEyHEY |
Oct-12-10 09:39 PM |
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two wrongs make a right? nt |
awoke_in_2003 |
Oct-12-10 11:38 AM |
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Not at all |
HEyHEY |
Oct-12-10 09:41 PM |
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Columbus is a great example of how someone can be totally |
whyverne |
Oct-11-10 05:48 AM |
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Oct-11-10 06:17 AM |
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I declare today Howard Zinn day! |
rucky |
Oct-11-10 06:20 AM |
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+1 |
zinnisking |
Oct-11-10 09:41 AM |
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Truth? |
proteus_lives |
Oct-11-10 03:51 PM |
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Yes, truth. Even if it's offensive to moderate DUers. |
zinnisking |
Oct-11-10 06:05 PM |
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Judging by your name, I'm not going to get an unbiased response. |
proteus_lives |
Oct-11-10 06:31 PM |
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We'll be celebrating Dick Cheney Day 25 years from now |
PuraVidaDreamin |
Oct-11-10 06:36 AM |
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Oct-11-10 03:20 PM |
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How about putting your money where your |
pipoman |
Oct-11-10 07:00 AM |
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How is this a defense of Columbus Day? |
JackRiddler |
Oct-12-10 01:58 AM |
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Columbus is just alright with me... |
Perfect Ten |
Oct-11-10 07:10 AM |
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Guilt. |
harun |
Oct-11-10 07:14 AM |
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I believe that the Columbus |
oldlib |
Oct-11-10 07:20 AM |
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Columbus was sailing to the West to find the Orient |
bherrera |
Oct-11-10 07:26 AM |
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+1 |
csziggy |
Oct-11-10 10:22 AM |
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I am not disturbed |
oldlib |
Oct-11-10 10:40 AM |
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Genocide is not just "human nature". |
Marr |
Oct-11-10 08:30 PM |
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You should read the account of Bartolome de las Casas |
Art_from_Ark |
Oct-12-10 12:53 AM |
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"You Spanish" discovered nothing, he stumbled onto it much like GWB stumbled into the White House |
Greyhound |
Oct-12-10 01:26 AM |
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No, that was how the Portuguese discovered Brazil |
cemaphonic |
Oct-11-10 10:26 PM |
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You better be working today and not taking advantage of anything columbus accomplished |
stray cat |
Oct-11-10 07:21 AM |
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Columbus committed genocide??? Are you sure about that? |
Motown_Johnny |
Oct-11-10 07:25 AM |
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I can just see your little chest all puffed up with righteousness. |
woo me with science |
Oct-11-10 07:30 AM |
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Aren't they? |
proteus_lives |
Oct-11-10 03:47 PM |
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Not to be a nit-pick, but most of the deaths were from European diseases. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-11-10 07:39 AM |
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LOLWUT? |
Rebubula |
Oct-11-10 08:19 AM |
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According to Ruddiman the population of the Americas did not recover until... |
Odin2005 |
Oct-11-10 08:37 AM |
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Really? You think this PROVEN theory is bullshit? Did you GO to school, at all? |
HEyHEY |
Oct-12-10 09:44 PM |
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diseases were used as a deliberate killing strategy by the christian europeans nt |
msongs |
Oct-11-10 08:25 AM |
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But that was after the population was already devastated. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-11-10 08:37 AM |
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Thanks |
Tsiyu |
Oct-11-10 08:54 AM |
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I think Columbus Day hatred... |
The_Commonist |
Oct-11-10 08:27 AM |
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I think the Columbus-Day-Hater Hate is as silly as either |
fishwax |
Oct-11-10 09:52 AM |
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Don't forget about the Haters Hating On Haters Of Hating Haters. Now that's SILLY! |
HuckleB |
Oct-11-10 08:26 PM |
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Is this like hating your parents for bringing you into this world? |
dkf |
Oct-11-10 08:37 AM |
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It went more like raping one's mom to bring you into this world. nt |
Lost-in-FL |
Oct-11-10 11:05 AM |
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How does that work? What did Columbus do to me? |
dkf |
Oct-11-10 11:16 AM |
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Lay off the Tea for a minute. |
Lost-in-FL |
Oct-11-10 11:21 AM |
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You don't think all this Columbus hatred is dislike of our own country? |
dkf |
Oct-11-10 11:25 AM |
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Well.... noooooo.... Lol!! |
Lost-in-FL |
Oct-11-10 02:26 PM |
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Dislike of your country, maybe. |
JackRiddler |
Oct-12-10 10:16 AM |
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You bring up a good point. Why doesn't the populace rename "Colombia"? |
Dark |
Oct-12-10 10:01 PM |
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Then you've chosen a false idol. |
JackRiddler |
Oct-12-10 02:00 AM |
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Actually, |
verges |
Oct-12-10 02:31 AM |
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That's true of almost any other event in history. |
JackRiddler |
Oct-12-10 06:58 AM |
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The first four of your paragraphs |
verges |
Oct-12-10 09:58 AM |
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Who said anything about denying history... |
JackRiddler |
Oct-12-10 10:14 AM |
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I like it. |
verges |
Oct-12-10 10:33 AM |
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The plague entered Europe through Genoa in January 1348. |
JackRiddler |
Oct-12-10 10:53 AM |
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Wow, how original. A DU post slamming Columbus on Columbus day! |
Nye Bevan |
Oct-11-10 08:42 AM |
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Yeah, I know |
ProudToBeBlueInRhody |
Oct-11-10 03:52 PM |
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The responses here are pretty bizarre |
Panaconda |
Oct-11-10 08:42 AM |
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Washington and Jefferson were both slaveholders, but I still honor them (nt) |
Nye Bevan |
Oct-11-10 09:08 AM |
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I don't |
Panaconda |
Oct-11-10 09:29 AM |
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Don't worry, so was just about every country |
ProudToBeBlueInRhody |
Oct-11-10 03:54 PM |
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Funny whenever it comes to things like this |
JonLP24 |
Oct-12-10 01:05 AM |
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I, too, am puzzled. |
Heidi |
Oct-11-10 10:25 AM |
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Sounds like the rich today in their view of us. nt |
Javaman |
Oct-11-10 10:51 AM |
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Exactly. n/t |
Greyhound |
Oct-12-10 01:35 AM |
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In other words, Columbus was a man of the age in which he lived. |
HuckleB |
Oct-11-10 08:33 PM |
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So was Hitler. |
JackRiddler |
Oct-12-10 07:00 AM |
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Columbus lived a world view held by most in Europe for centuries.. |
HuckleB |
Oct-12-10 10:57 AM |
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Hyperbole is often useful in exposing bullshit. |
JackRiddler |
Oct-12-10 11:21 AM |
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If that's the case, then you used it to expose your own bullshit. |
HuckleB |
Oct-12-10 11:30 AM |
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With thanks. |
Greyhound |
Oct-12-10 01:34 AM |
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K&R, nt |
Lost-in-FL |
Oct-11-10 08:50 AM |
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No point in venting your spleen on Columbus... |
hayu_lol |
Oct-11-10 10:10 AM |
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Spaniards were only the first to "document" and implement cheap labor in America. |
Lost-in-FL |
Oct-11-10 11:01 AM |
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Ah, the annual Columbus/Genocide thread. |
sufrommich |
Oct-11-10 10:15 AM |
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LMAO!! |
Roon |
Oct-11-10 10:16 AM |
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asked 15 yr old, what holiday today. he says "columbus day. not fair celebrating |
seabeyond |
Oct-11-10 10:26 AM |
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Yeah, I'm familiar with that type of politically correct teacher (nt) |
Nye Bevan |
Oct-11-10 09:56 PM |
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you are not alone |
kpete |
Oct-11-10 10:42 AM |
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problem with apply today's morality to past times is |
SargeUNN |
Oct-11-10 11:00 AM |
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speaking of sailing off into the sunset... |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-11-10 11:50 AM |
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i'm down with that |
librechik |
Oct-11-10 02:52 PM |
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because we need a holiday in October and the fundies would freak |
KurtNYC |
Oct-11-10 03:12 PM |
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I'll bet Thanksgiving is real fun at your house, southmost |
slackmaster |
Oct-11-10 03:15 PM |
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which bits of history do we keep academic, and which bits do we raise our fists at in righteous indi |
LanternWaste |
Oct-11-10 03:17 PM |
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FUCK WASHINGTON AND LINCOLN |
Nye Bevan |
Oct-11-10 07:45 PM |
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Here's the thing. |
Marr |
Oct-11-10 08:49 PM |
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Columbus wasn't the first European who discovered America. |
Lucian |
Oct-11-10 03:18 PM |
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Thank you for making the obligatory "the Vikings were here first" post |
HuckleB |
Oct-11-10 08:31 PM |
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But it was columbus |
verges |
Oct-12-10 02:40 AM |
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Columbus died from genocide? |
MellowDem |
Oct-11-10 03:59 PM |
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Cool. Zero net recs on the obligatory DU "fuck Columbus" thread. |
Nye Bevan |
Oct-11-10 06:56 PM |
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It's actually |
Panaconda |
Oct-11-10 08:21 PM |
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Edit. Delete. |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-12-10 02:55 AM |
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For both good and bad, we would not be here today without him or someone like him |
Nikia |
Oct-11-10 08:35 PM |
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Columbus made choices that will ensure his infamy, as did most European colonizers.. |
mix |
Oct-11-10 10:00 PM |
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"...why is his genocide still being celebrated..." |
unkachuck |
Oct-11-10 10:20 PM |
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Discvovery is a matter of perspective. |
verges |
Oct-12-10 02:43 AM |
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I just wish they would deliver mail |
JonLP24 |
Oct-12-10 12:59 AM |
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Don't forget that Columbus was actually lost. He thought he was going to India. |
slackmaster |
Oct-12-10 10:57 AM |
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Makes ya wonder, doesn't it? |
Desertrose |
Oct-12-10 01:40 AM |
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It's a minor holiday around here |
pstokely |
Oct-12-10 02:24 AM |
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Yeah, I really would have liked to have gotten my mail. |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-12-10 02:56 AM |
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LOL |
NeedleCast |
Oct-12-10 11:22 AM |
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He got off his ass and discovered a continent. |
Nye Bevan |
Oct-12-10 10:07 PM |
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