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Mon Oct-11-10 11:01 AM
Response to Reply #35 |
| 45. Spaniards were only the first to "document" and implement cheap labor in America. |
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Edited on Mon Oct-11-10 11:09 AM by Lost-in-FL
Of course, America as a "continent" and not as the imperial power. However, some say it was the vikings, others the chinese whom obviously lived by the "live and let live" philosophy. Still, even if someone were to "discover" (ironically) a land with already millions of inhabitants in it 5 years later, it was Columbus the asshole who finally accomplished it. Funny how many here think we should be grateful to him.
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| -f*ck Columbus and the boat he sailed |
southmost |
Oct-11-10 03:29 AM |
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Because he goes good with a nice, steamy tub of buttery |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-11-10 03:33 AM |
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Columbus Day is brought to you by the same mentality that thinks General Custer is a hero, |
RC |
Oct-11-10 04:50 AM |
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as with all things |
melm00se |
Oct-11-10 04:59 AM |
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When Syphillis came to Europe originally it was MUCH more virulent then now. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-11-10 07:44 AM |
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it is also possible |
melm00se |
Oct-11-10 08:07 AM |
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How righteous. Now you go straight home and call your lawyer. |
aquart |
Oct-11-10 05:45 AM |
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Columbus opted not to baptize the natives because Catholic law forbade the enslavement of Christians |
Kolesar |
Oct-11-10 06:03 AM |
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You are aware natives enslaved each other all the time, right? |
HEyHEY |
Oct-11-10 10:22 PM |
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What a thoroughly irrelevant point... |
JackRiddler |
Oct-12-10 01:56 AM |
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I'm not justifying shit. But saying we "Brought" slavery to them is bullshit |
HEyHEY |
Oct-12-10 09:39 PM |
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two wrongs make a right? nt |
awoke_in_2003 |
Oct-12-10 11:38 AM |
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Not at all |
HEyHEY |
Oct-12-10 09:41 PM |
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Columbus is a great example of how someone can be totally |
whyverne |
Oct-11-10 05:48 AM |
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Oct-11-10 06:17 AM |
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I declare today Howard Zinn day! |
rucky |
Oct-11-10 06:20 AM |
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+1 |
zinnisking |
Oct-11-10 09:41 AM |
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Truth? |
proteus_lives |
Oct-11-10 03:51 PM |
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Yes, truth. Even if it's offensive to moderate DUers. |
zinnisking |
Oct-11-10 06:05 PM |
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Judging by your name, I'm not going to get an unbiased response. |
proteus_lives |
Oct-11-10 06:31 PM |
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We'll be celebrating Dick Cheney Day 25 years from now |
PuraVidaDreamin |
Oct-11-10 06:36 AM |
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Deleted message |
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Oct-11-10 03:20 PM |
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How about putting your money where your |
pipoman |
Oct-11-10 07:00 AM |
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How is this a defense of Columbus Day? |
JackRiddler |
Oct-12-10 01:58 AM |
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Columbus is just alright with me... |
Perfect Ten |
Oct-11-10 07:10 AM |
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Guilt. |
harun |
Oct-11-10 07:14 AM |
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I believe that the Columbus |
oldlib |
Oct-11-10 07:20 AM |
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Columbus was sailing to the West to find the Orient |
bherrera |
Oct-11-10 07:26 AM |
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+1 |
csziggy |
Oct-11-10 10:22 AM |
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I am not disturbed |
oldlib |
Oct-11-10 10:40 AM |
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Genocide is not just "human nature". |
Marr |
Oct-11-10 08:30 PM |
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You should read the account of Bartolome de las Casas |
Art_from_Ark |
Oct-12-10 12:53 AM |
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"You Spanish" discovered nothing, he stumbled onto it much like GWB stumbled into the White House |
Greyhound |
Oct-12-10 01:26 AM |
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No, that was how the Portuguese discovered Brazil |
cemaphonic |
Oct-11-10 10:26 PM |
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You better be working today and not taking advantage of anything columbus accomplished |
stray cat |
Oct-11-10 07:21 AM |
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Columbus committed genocide??? Are you sure about that? |
Motown_Johnny |
Oct-11-10 07:25 AM |
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I can just see your little chest all puffed up with righteousness. |
woo me with science |
Oct-11-10 07:30 AM |
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Aren't they? |
proteus_lives |
Oct-11-10 03:47 PM |
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Not to be a nit-pick, but most of the deaths were from European diseases. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-11-10 07:39 AM |
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LOLWUT? |
Rebubula |
Oct-11-10 08:19 AM |
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According to Ruddiman the population of the Americas did not recover until... |
Odin2005 |
Oct-11-10 08:37 AM |
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Really? You think this PROVEN theory is bullshit? Did you GO to school, at all? |
HEyHEY |
Oct-12-10 09:44 PM |
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diseases were used as a deliberate killing strategy by the christian europeans nt |
msongs |
Oct-11-10 08:25 AM |
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But that was after the population was already devastated. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-11-10 08:37 AM |
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Thanks |
Tsiyu |
Oct-11-10 08:54 AM |
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I think Columbus Day hatred... |
The_Commonist |
Oct-11-10 08:27 AM |
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I think the Columbus-Day-Hater Hate is as silly as either |
fishwax |
Oct-11-10 09:52 AM |
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Don't forget about the Haters Hating On Haters Of Hating Haters. Now that's SILLY! |
HuckleB |
Oct-11-10 08:26 PM |
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Is this like hating your parents for bringing you into this world? |
dkf |
Oct-11-10 08:37 AM |
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It went more like raping one's mom to bring you into this world. nt |
Lost-in-FL |
Oct-11-10 11:05 AM |
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How does that work? What did Columbus do to me? |
dkf |
Oct-11-10 11:16 AM |
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Lay off the Tea for a minute. |
Lost-in-FL |
Oct-11-10 11:21 AM |
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You don't think all this Columbus hatred is dislike of our own country? |
dkf |
Oct-11-10 11:25 AM |
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Well.... noooooo.... Lol!! |
Lost-in-FL |
Oct-11-10 02:26 PM |
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Dislike of your country, maybe. |
JackRiddler |
Oct-12-10 10:16 AM |
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You bring up a good point. Why doesn't the populace rename "Colombia"? |
Dark |
Oct-12-10 10:01 PM |
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Then you've chosen a false idol. |
JackRiddler |
Oct-12-10 02:00 AM |
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Actually, |
verges |
Oct-12-10 02:31 AM |
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That's true of almost any other event in history. |
JackRiddler |
Oct-12-10 06:58 AM |
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The first four of your paragraphs |
verges |
Oct-12-10 09:58 AM |
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Who said anything about denying history... |
JackRiddler |
Oct-12-10 10:14 AM |
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I like it. |
verges |
Oct-12-10 10:33 AM |
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The plague entered Europe through Genoa in January 1348. |
JackRiddler |
Oct-12-10 10:53 AM |
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Wow, how original. A DU post slamming Columbus on Columbus day! |
Nye Bevan |
Oct-11-10 08:42 AM |
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Yeah, I know |
ProudToBeBlueInRhody |
Oct-11-10 03:52 PM |
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The responses here are pretty bizarre |
Panaconda |
Oct-11-10 08:42 AM |
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Washington and Jefferson were both slaveholders, but I still honor them (nt) |
Nye Bevan |
Oct-11-10 09:08 AM |
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I don't |
Panaconda |
Oct-11-10 09:29 AM |
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Don't worry, so was just about every country |
ProudToBeBlueInRhody |
Oct-11-10 03:54 PM |
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Funny whenever it comes to things like this |
JonLP24 |
Oct-12-10 01:05 AM |
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I, too, am puzzled. |
Heidi |
Oct-11-10 10:25 AM |
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Sounds like the rich today in their view of us. nt |
Javaman |
Oct-11-10 10:51 AM |
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Exactly. n/t |
Greyhound |
Oct-12-10 01:35 AM |
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In other words, Columbus was a man of the age in which he lived. |
HuckleB |
Oct-11-10 08:33 PM |
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So was Hitler. |
JackRiddler |
Oct-12-10 07:00 AM |
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Columbus lived a world view held by most in Europe for centuries.. |
HuckleB |
Oct-12-10 10:57 AM |
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Hyperbole is often useful in exposing bullshit. |
JackRiddler |
Oct-12-10 11:21 AM |
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If that's the case, then you used it to expose your own bullshit. |
HuckleB |
Oct-12-10 11:30 AM |
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With thanks. |
Greyhound |
Oct-12-10 01:34 AM |
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K&R, nt |
Lost-in-FL |
Oct-11-10 08:50 AM |
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No point in venting your spleen on Columbus... |
hayu_lol |
Oct-11-10 10:10 AM |
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Spaniards were only the first to "document" and implement cheap labor in America. |
Lost-in-FL |
Oct-11-10 11:01 AM |
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Ah, the annual Columbus/Genocide thread. |
sufrommich |
Oct-11-10 10:15 AM |
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LMAO!! |
Roon |
Oct-11-10 10:16 AM |
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asked 15 yr old, what holiday today. he says "columbus day. not fair celebrating |
seabeyond |
Oct-11-10 10:26 AM |
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Yeah, I'm familiar with that type of politically correct teacher (nt) |
Nye Bevan |
Oct-11-10 09:56 PM |
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you are not alone |
kpete |
Oct-11-10 10:42 AM |
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problem with apply today's morality to past times is |
SargeUNN |
Oct-11-10 11:00 AM |
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speaking of sailing off into the sunset... |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-11-10 11:50 AM |
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i'm down with that |
librechik |
Oct-11-10 02:52 PM |
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because we need a holiday in October and the fundies would freak |
KurtNYC |
Oct-11-10 03:12 PM |
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I'll bet Thanksgiving is real fun at your house, southmost |
slackmaster |
Oct-11-10 03:15 PM |
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which bits of history do we keep academic, and which bits do we raise our fists at in righteous indi |
LanternWaste |
Oct-11-10 03:17 PM |
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FUCK WASHINGTON AND LINCOLN |
Nye Bevan |
Oct-11-10 07:45 PM |
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Here's the thing. |
Marr |
Oct-11-10 08:49 PM |
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Columbus wasn't the first European who discovered America. |
Lucian |
Oct-11-10 03:18 PM |
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Thank you for making the obligatory "the Vikings were here first" post |
HuckleB |
Oct-11-10 08:31 PM |
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But it was columbus |
verges |
Oct-12-10 02:40 AM |
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Columbus died from genocide? |
MellowDem |
Oct-11-10 03:59 PM |
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Cool. Zero net recs on the obligatory DU "fuck Columbus" thread. |
Nye Bevan |
Oct-11-10 06:56 PM |
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It's actually |
Panaconda |
Oct-11-10 08:21 PM |
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Edit. Delete. |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-12-10 02:55 AM |
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For both good and bad, we would not be here today without him or someone like him |
Nikia |
Oct-11-10 08:35 PM |
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Columbus made choices that will ensure his infamy, as did most European colonizers.. |
mix |
Oct-11-10 10:00 PM |
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"...why is his genocide still being celebrated..." |
unkachuck |
Oct-11-10 10:20 PM |
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Discvovery is a matter of perspective. |
verges |
Oct-12-10 02:43 AM |
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I just wish they would deliver mail |
JonLP24 |
Oct-12-10 12:59 AM |
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Don't forget that Columbus was actually lost. He thought he was going to India. |
slackmaster |
Oct-12-10 10:57 AM |
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Makes ya wonder, doesn't it? |
Desertrose |
Oct-12-10 01:40 AM |
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It's a minor holiday around here |
pstokely |
Oct-12-10 02:24 AM |
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Yeah, I really would have liked to have gotten my mail. |
Warren DeMontague |
Oct-12-10 02:56 AM |
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LOL |
NeedleCast |
Oct-12-10 11:22 AM |
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He got off his ass and discovered a continent. |
Nye Bevan |
Oct-12-10 10:07 PM |
#112 |
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