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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 07:25 AM
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15. Columbus committed genocide??? Are you sure about that?
Europeans who came here after him did, but he himself? I kinda doubt that.
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  -f*ck Columbus and the boat he sailed southmost  Oct-11-10 03:29 AM   #0 
  - Because he goes good with a nice, steamy tub of buttery  Warren DeMontague   Oct-11-10 03:33 AM   #1 
  - Columbus Day is brought to you by the same mentality that thinks General Custer is a hero,  RC   Oct-11-10 04:50 AM   #2 
  - as with all things  melm00se   Oct-11-10 04:59 AM   #3 
  - When Syphillis came to Europe originally it was MUCH more virulent then now.  Odin2005   Oct-11-10 07:44 AM   #19 
     - it is also possible  melm00se   Oct-11-10 08:07 AM   #20 
  - How righteous. Now you go straight home and call your lawyer.  aquart   Oct-11-10 05:45 AM   #4 
  - Columbus opted not to baptize the natives because Catholic law forbade the enslavement of Christians  Kolesar   Oct-11-10 06:03 AM   #6 
     - You are aware natives enslaved each other all the time, right?  HEyHEY   Oct-11-10 10:22 PM   #77 
        - What a thoroughly irrelevant point...  JackRiddler   Oct-12-10 01:56 AM   #86 
        - I'm not justifying shit. But saying we "Brought" slavery to them is bullshit  HEyHEY   Oct-12-10 09:39 PM   #108 
        - two wrongs make a right? nt  awoke_in_2003   Oct-12-10 11:38 AM   #107 
           - Not at all  HEyHEY   Oct-12-10 09:41 PM   #109 
  - Columbus is a great example of how someone can be totally  whyverne   Oct-11-10 05:48 AM   #5 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-11-10 06:17 AM   #7 
  - I declare today Howard Zinn day!  rucky   Oct-11-10 06:20 AM   #8 
  - +1  zinnisking   Oct-11-10 09:41 AM   #33 
  - Truth?  proteus_lives   Oct-11-10 03:51 PM   #59 
     - Yes, truth. Even if it's offensive to moderate DUers.  zinnisking   Oct-11-10 06:05 PM   #63 
        - Judging by your name, I'm not going to get an unbiased response.  proteus_lives   Oct-11-10 06:31 PM   #64 
  - We'll be celebrating Dick Cheney Day 25 years from now  PuraVidaDreamin   Oct-11-10 06:36 AM   #9 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-11-10 03:20 PM   #57 
  - How about putting your money where your  pipoman   Oct-11-10 07:00 AM   #10 
  - How is this a defense of Columbus Day?  JackRiddler   Oct-12-10 01:58 AM   #87 
  - Columbus is just alright with me...  Perfect Ten   Oct-11-10 07:10 AM   #11 
  - Guilt.  harun   Oct-11-10 07:14 AM   #12 
  - I believe that the Columbus  oldlib   Oct-11-10 07:20 AM   #13 
  - Columbus was sailing to the West to find the Orient  bherrera   Oct-11-10 07:26 AM   #16 
  - +1  csziggy   Oct-11-10 10:22 AM   #38 
  - I am not disturbed  oldlib   Oct-11-10 10:40 AM   #41 
  - Genocide is not just "human nature".  Marr   Oct-11-10 08:30 PM   #69 
  - You should read the account of Bartolome de las Casas  Art_from_Ark   Oct-12-10 12:53 AM   #79 
  - "You Spanish" discovered nothing, he stumbled onto it much like GWB stumbled into the White House  Greyhound   Oct-12-10 01:26 AM   #82 
  - No, that was how the Portuguese discovered Brazil  cemaphonic   Oct-11-10 10:26 PM   #78 
  - You better be working today and not taking advantage of anything columbus accomplished  stray cat   Oct-11-10 07:21 AM   #14 
  - Columbus committed genocide??? Are you sure about that?  Motown_Johnny   Oct-11-10 07:25 AM   #15 
  - I can just see your little chest all puffed up with righteousness.  woo me with science   Oct-11-10 07:30 AM   #17 
  - Aren't they?  proteus_lives   Oct-11-10 03:47 PM   #58 
  - Not to be a nit-pick, but most of the deaths were from European diseases.  Odin2005   Oct-11-10 07:39 AM   #18 
  - LOLWUT?  Rebubula   Oct-11-10 08:19 AM   #21 
  - According to Ruddiman the population of the Americas did not recover until...  Odin2005   Oct-11-10 08:37 AM   #24 
  - Really? You think this PROVEN theory is bullshit? Did you GO to school, at all?  HEyHEY   Oct-12-10 09:44 PM   #110 
  - diseases were used as a deliberate killing strategy by the christian europeans nt  msongs   Oct-11-10 08:25 AM   #22 
  - But that was after the population was already devastated.  Odin2005   Oct-11-10 08:37 AM   #25 
  - Thanks  Tsiyu   Oct-11-10 08:54 AM   #30 
  - I think Columbus Day hatred...  The_Commonist   Oct-11-10 08:27 AM   #23 
  - I think the Columbus-Day-Hater Hate is as silly as either  fishwax   Oct-11-10 09:52 AM   #34 
     - Don't forget about the Haters Hating On Haters Of Hating Haters. Now that's SILLY!  HuckleB   Oct-11-10 08:26 PM   #68 
  - Is this like hating your parents for bringing you into this world?  dkf   Oct-11-10 08:37 AM   #26 
  - It went more like raping one's mom to bring you into this world. nt  Lost-in-FL   Oct-11-10 11:05 AM   #46 
  - How does that work? What did Columbus do to me?  dkf   Oct-11-10 11:16 AM   #47 
     - Lay off the Tea for a minute.  Lost-in-FL   Oct-11-10 11:21 AM   #48 
     - You don't think all this Columbus hatred is dislike of our own country?  dkf   Oct-11-10 11:25 AM   #49 
        - Well.... noooooo.... Lol!!  Lost-in-FL   Oct-11-10 02:26 PM   #51 
        - Dislike of your country, maybe.  JackRiddler   Oct-12-10 10:16 AM   #99 
     - You bring up a good point. Why doesn't the populace rename "Colombia"?  Dark   Oct-12-10 10:01 PM   #111 
  - Then you've chosen a false idol.  JackRiddler   Oct-12-10 02:00 AM   #88 
     - Actually,  verges   Oct-12-10 02:31 AM   #90 
        - That's true of almost any other event in history.  JackRiddler   Oct-12-10 06:58 AM   #95 
           - The first four of your paragraphs  verges   Oct-12-10 09:58 AM   #97 
              - Who said anything about denying history...  JackRiddler   Oct-12-10 10:14 AM   #98 
                 - I like it.  verges   Oct-12-10 10:33 AM   #100 
                    - The plague entered Europe through Genoa in January 1348.  JackRiddler   Oct-12-10 10:53 AM   #101 
  - Wow, how original. A DU post slamming Columbus on Columbus day!  Nye Bevan   Oct-11-10 08:42 AM   #27 
  - Yeah, I know  ProudToBeBlueInRhody   Oct-11-10 03:52 PM   #60 
  - The responses here are pretty bizarre  Panaconda   Oct-11-10 08:42 AM   #28 
  - Washington and Jefferson were both slaveholders, but I still honor them (nt)  Nye Bevan   Oct-11-10 09:08 AM   #31 
  - I don't  Panaconda   Oct-11-10 09:29 AM   #32 
     - Don't worry, so was just about every country  ProudToBeBlueInRhody   Oct-11-10 03:54 PM   #61 
        - Funny whenever it comes to things like this  JonLP24   Oct-12-10 01:05 AM   #81 
  - I, too, am puzzled.  Heidi   Oct-11-10 10:25 AM   #39 
  - Sounds like the rich today in their view of us. nt  Javaman   Oct-11-10 10:51 AM   #43 
     - Exactly. n/t  Greyhound   Oct-12-10 01:35 AM   #84 
  - In other words, Columbus was a man of the age in which he lived.  HuckleB   Oct-11-10 08:33 PM   #71 
  - So was Hitler.  JackRiddler   Oct-12-10 07:00 AM   #96 
     - Columbus lived a world view held by most in Europe for centuries..  HuckleB   Oct-12-10 10:57 AM   #102 
        - Hyperbole is often useful in exposing bullshit.  JackRiddler   Oct-12-10 11:21 AM   #104 
           - If that's the case, then you used it to expose your own bullshit.  HuckleB   Oct-12-10 11:30 AM   #106 
  - With thanks.  Greyhound   Oct-12-10 01:34 AM   #83 
  - K&R, nt  Lost-in-FL   Oct-11-10 08:50 AM   #29 
  - No point in venting your spleen on Columbus...  hayu_lol   Oct-11-10 10:10 AM   #35 
     - Spaniards were only the first to "document" and implement cheap labor in America.  Lost-in-FL   Oct-11-10 11:01 AM   #45 
  - Ah, the annual Columbus/Genocide thread.  sufrommich   Oct-11-10 10:15 AM   #36 
  - LMAO!!  Roon   Oct-11-10 10:16 AM   #37 
  - asked 15 yr old, what holiday today. he says "columbus day. not fair celebrating  seabeyond   Oct-11-10 10:26 AM   #40 
  - Yeah, I'm familiar with that type of politically correct teacher (nt)  Nye Bevan   Oct-11-10 09:56 PM   #74 
  - you are not alone  kpete   Oct-11-10 10:42 AM   #42 
  - problem with apply today's morality to past times is  SargeUNN   Oct-11-10 11:00 AM   #44 
  - speaking of sailing off into the sunset...  Warren DeMontague   Oct-11-10 11:50 AM   #50 
  - i'm down with that  librechik   Oct-11-10 02:52 PM   #52 
  - because we need a holiday in October and the fundies would freak  KurtNYC   Oct-11-10 03:12 PM   #53 
  - I'll bet Thanksgiving is real fun at your house, southmost  slackmaster   Oct-11-10 03:15 PM   #54 
  - which bits of history do we keep academic, and which bits do we raise our fists at in righteous indi  LanternWaste   Oct-11-10 03:17 PM   #55 
  - FUCK WASHINGTON AND LINCOLN  Nye Bevan   Oct-11-10 07:45 PM   #66 
  - Here's the thing.  Marr   Oct-11-10 08:49 PM   #73 
  - Columbus wasn't the first European who discovered America.  Lucian   Oct-11-10 03:18 PM   #56 
  - Thank you for making the obligatory "the Vikings were here first" post  HuckleB   Oct-11-10 08:31 PM   #70 
  - But it was columbus  verges   Oct-12-10 02:40 AM   #91 
  - Columbus died from genocide?  MellowDem   Oct-11-10 03:59 PM   #62 
  - Cool. Zero net recs on the obligatory DU "fuck Columbus" thread.  Nye Bevan   Oct-11-10 06:56 PM   #65 
  - It's actually  Panaconda   Oct-11-10 08:21 PM   #67 
     - Edit. Delete.  Warren DeMontague   Oct-12-10 02:55 AM   #93 
  - For both good and bad, we would not be here today without him or someone like him  Nikia   Oct-11-10 08:35 PM   #72 
  - Columbus made choices that will ensure his infamy, as did most European colonizers..  mix   Oct-11-10 10:00 PM   #75 
  - "...why is his genocide still being celebrated..."  unkachuck   Oct-11-10 10:20 PM   #76 
  - Discvovery is a matter of perspective.  verges   Oct-12-10 02:43 AM   #92 
  - I just wish they would deliver mail  JonLP24   Oct-12-10 12:59 AM   #80 
  - Don't forget that Columbus was actually lost. He thought he was going to India.  slackmaster   Oct-12-10 10:57 AM   #103 
  - Makes ya wonder, doesn't it?  Desertrose   Oct-12-10 01:40 AM   #85 
  - It's a minor holiday around here  pstokely   Oct-12-10 02:24 AM   #89 
  - Yeah, I really would have liked to have gotten my mail.  Warren DeMontague   Oct-12-10 02:56 AM   #94 
  - LOL  NeedleCast   Oct-12-10 11:22 AM   #105 
  - He got off his ass and discovered a continent.  Nye Bevan   Oct-12-10 10:07 PM   #112 
 

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