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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:40 PM
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51. This bill is an outrage. They are working AGAINST the people
and once again, aiding and abetting crimes against the people. I have a friend who lost her home to Wells Fargo. They would not respond to a single call or letter she sent them, even when she got an attorney, they did not respond to him either.

Her mortgage passed through four different banks and she wanted to see documentation of those transactions. They did not even respond, although her attorney requested it also. She is hoping that as this escalates she can sue them to get that documentation as they moved forward with the foreclosure before she had time to do her own research.

Oh, how they 'love the troops'. Her husband was a Veteran who died three years ago and with the loss of his income she struggled for a while, but COULD have paid a reduced mortgage payment for a few years. They never, once talked to her.

Shame on Congress for doing this and shame especially on every Democrat who joins in this war on the American people. If this is a sign of how they will act if the win, together with cutting SS benefits, explain again what is the difference between these two parties as far as benefiting the American people?
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  -Any person, be they Senator or Rep, voting in HR 3808 Has Committed Treason truedelphi  Oct-07-10 01:15 PM   #0 
  - .  dionysus   Oct-07-10 01:16 PM   #1 
  - Yep! I sure would like to know who  golddigger   Oct-07-10 01:17 PM   #2 
  - So, your idea is that any legislator voting for a law found to be unconstitutional  onenote   Oct-07-10 01:22 PM   #3 
  - If the law has been clearly crafted so that illegal activities are found legal  truedelphi   Oct-07-10 01:33 PM   #5 
  - You are aware that treason has a defined legal definition?  tritsofme   Oct-07-10 01:49 PM   #9 
  - today's sc is a fundie shithole, & those who support the rights of transnational corps over the  Hannah Bell   Oct-07-10 01:58 PM   #15 
  - If you're talking about the Felonious Five, they have already  sabrina 1   Oct-07-10 03:29 PM   #47 
  - Voting for a bill, in accordance with the Constituiton, is not treason...  Ozymanithrax   Oct-07-10 01:30 PM   #4 
  - they *are* levying war again the people, & adhering to our enemies.  Hannah Bell   Oct-07-10 01:59 PM   #17 
     - When did the notary public war begin?  Ozymanithrax   Oct-07-10 02:46 PM   #43 
     - Then let's just call it 'betrayal of the people they swore to  sabrina 1   Oct-07-10 03:32 PM   #50 
     - Since the bill has been presented here, and I read it...  Ozymanithrax   Oct-07-10 04:59 PM   #58 
        - Well, thank you for your response. However, it is wrong to say  sabrina 1   Oct-07-10 06:26 PM   #71 
     - However:  truedelphi   Oct-07-10 03:45 PM   #52 
     - Sorry, it become interstate commerce when they move across the border.  Ozymanithrax   Oct-07-10 05:03 PM   #59 
     - Wrong. E-Commerce (the precursor to this bill) which gives legal  COLGATE4   Oct-07-10 05:20 PM   #64 
     - I call it "Massive Fraud" against the American people.  golddigger   Oct-07-10 04:51 PM   #57 
        - Please show me evidence where the entire house and entire Senate..  Ozymanithrax   Oct-07-10 05:05 PM   #60 
           - Maybe that there was no House or Senate vote on this.  golddigger   Oct-07-10 05:30 PM   #66 
              - It passed the House April 27, 2010 by a voice vote.  Ozymanithrax   Oct-07-10 05:40 PM   #67 
     - NOT  elleng   Oct-07-10 09:00 PM   #76 
  - I am sick of the "nitpicking defense"  placton   Oct-07-10 01:34 PM   #6 
  - Yes we have to wonder when (not if) the law will be signed.  truedelphi   Oct-07-10 01:35 PM   #7 
  - He just pocket vetoed it, so it can't be overridden by the Congress,  Better Today   Oct-07-10 01:46 PM   #8 
     - yeah and watch what happens RIGHT AFTER  placton   Oct-07-10 01:51 PM   #11 
     - Hopefully, the Oval Office folks now know enough people are watching over this,  truedelphi   Oct-07-10 03:32 PM   #49 
     - It's only a pocket veto if Congress goes out of session  Recursion   Oct-07-10 02:17 PM   #27 
        - That's what I was worried about, but the headlines seem to indicate  Better Today   Oct-07-10 05:55 PM   #69 
  - here is the senate history of this atrocity  placton   Oct-07-10 01:49 PM   #10 
     - You forgot pocket vetoed by the President.  Ozymanithrax   Oct-07-10 01:58 PM   #16 
     - I got sent my absentee ballot the other day and all I do is stare and stare at it  truedelphi   Oct-07-10 02:18 PM   #28 
        - If you do not vote for a Democrat with your ballot...  Ozymanithrax   Oct-07-10 02:42 PM   #42 
  - If rumors are true...the President is not going to sign this bill. .  BrklynLiberal   Oct-07-10 01:54 PM   #12 
  - I just called the White House phone line  truedelphi   Oct-07-10 02:09 PM   #21 
     - GREAT NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!  BrklynLiberal   Oct-07-10 04:02 PM   #55 
  - kr. is there a list?  Hannah Bell   Oct-07-10 01:55 PM   #13 
  - Approved "unanimously" by everyone on the floor of  truedelphi   Oct-07-10 02:12 PM   #24 
     - Unanimous consent isn't mysterious.  Ozymanithrax   Oct-07-10 02:21 PM   #29 
     - if we don't know who was there, it *is* mysterious.  Hannah Bell   Oct-07-10 02:29 PM   #34 
        - Read the Senate rule...  Ozymanithrax   Oct-07-10 02:37 PM   #39 
           - Please grab the Fifth Amendment of the Cosntitution and read it.  truedelphi   Oct-07-10 03:29 PM   #46 
     - so we have no way of knowing who voted for it? how convenient for "democracy".  Hannah Bell   Oct-07-10 02:28 PM   #33 
        - You know that every Senator agrees with this bill.  Ozymanithrax   Oct-07-10 02:40 PM   #40 
           - no, i don't know that. i don't know who was on the floor, i don't know who voted for the bill,  Hannah Bell   Oct-07-10 03:48 PM   #53 
              - Two things...  Ozymanithrax   Oct-07-10 05:07 PM   #61 
  - The bill deals with interstate commerce which is the exclusive power of the U.S. Congress.  Ozymanithrax   Oct-07-10 01:56 PM   #14 
  - you really miss the point.  Hannah Bell   Oct-07-10 02:00 PM   #18 
     - You mean about Congressmen, who have the Constitutional power to vote on bills...  Ozymanithrax   Oct-07-10 02:06 PM   #20 
        - would be if they property was given to the Chinese as payment  glinda   Oct-08-10 12:01 AM   #81 
  - This HR 3808?  aikoaiko   Oct-07-10 02:05 PM   #19 
  - yes: senate: senate bill S11592  placton   Oct-07-10 02:09 PM   #22 
  - You know, they are allowed to do that.  Ozymanithrax   Oct-07-10 02:15 PM   #25 
     - Well first we saw that "Hope" was just a campaign slogan  truedelphi   Oct-07-10 02:22 PM   #30 
        - Every Senator agreed with the bill in a Unanimous Consent.  Ozymanithrax   Oct-07-10 02:32 PM   #36 
  - I do not think that a bill that requires states to recognize legal  Ozymanithrax   Oct-07-10 02:11 PM   #23 
  - Again you and others need to see the larger ramifications of this bill  truedelphi   Oct-07-10 02:23 PM   #31 
     - Your OP was not about the ramifications of the bill. It flat makes and accusation of...  Ozymanithrax   Oct-07-10 02:35 PM   #38 
        - Yes, and this incendiary position has helped the message go VIRAL  truedelphi   Oct-07-10 03:26 PM   #45 
  - Check out the real meaning of this supposedly "innocuous" Act  truedelphi   Oct-07-10 02:16 PM   #26 
  - That was very interesting -- the implications weren't obvious to me.  aikoaiko   Oct-07-10 08:49 PM   #73 
  - That would actually be constitutional  Abq_Sarah   Oct-07-10 02:30 PM   #35 
  - Treason is...  SDuderstadt   Oct-07-10 02:24 PM   #32 
  - k&r  freebrew   Oct-07-10 02:33 PM   #37 
  - Thanks freebrew. This went Viral - not so  truedelphi   Oct-07-10 03:30 PM   #48 
  - President Obama won't sign notary bill, sends back to Congress  Judi Lynn   Oct-07-10 02:41 PM   #41 
  - That is great news. Thanks for posting.  truedelphi   Oct-07-10 03:24 PM   #44 
  - This bill is an outrage. They are working AGAINST the people  sabrina 1   Oct-07-10 03:40 PM   #51 
  - Good news is that the President did not sign off on this.  truedelphi   Oct-07-10 03:49 PM   #54 
  - It cannot be treason to vote on a bill  treestar   Oct-07-10 04:04 PM   #56 
  - I don't really see much to object to in this bill, but whatever it is it ain't treason.  apocalypsehow   Oct-07-10 05:13 PM   #62 
  - There was NO Senate or House vote -  karynnj   Oct-07-10 05:15 PM   #63 
  - You are wrong...  Ozymanithrax   Oct-07-10 05:42 PM   #68 
     - Let me rephrase it - there was no recorded vote  karynnj   Oct-07-10 06:50 PM   #72 
        - As for the Senate, the Word Unanimous says it all.  Ozymanithrax   Oct-07-10 08:49 PM   #74 
  - I think that everyone is getting overly worked up over something that  COLGATE4   Oct-07-10 05:27 PM   #65 
  - K&R  Angry Dragon   Oct-07-10 05:59 PM   #70 
  - The Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution:  elleng   Oct-07-10 08:57 PM   #75 
  - What does the Fifth Amendment have to do with the OP????  COLGATE4   Oct-07-10 09:28 PM   #78 
     - 2d sentence of OP says:  elleng   Oct-07-10 09:43 PM   #79 
  - hr 3808  chefjim   Oct-07-10 09:17 PM   #77 
  - K&R  SlipperySlope   Oct-08-10 12:00 AM   #80 
  - HIGHLY Recommended !!!!!!!!!!  autorank   Oct-08-10 01:18 AM   #82 
  - K&R  Jamastiene   Oct-08-10 01:55 AM   #83 
  - We're locking this.  pinto   Oct-08-10 02:49 AM   #84 
 

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