Ozymanithrax
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Thu Oct-07-10 02:37 PM
Response to Reply #34 |
| 39. Read the Senate rule... |
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Edited on Thu Oct-07-10 02:37 PM by Ozymanithrax
Only one Senator is necessary to stop Unanimous consent. You don't have to know who was there. It was "Unanimous." Every one of them, from the best to the worst, voted for it. The voice vote in congress was iffy, but still constitutional. No treason was involved.
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| -Any person, be they Senator or Rep, voting in HR 3808 Has Committed Treason |
truedelphi |
Oct-07-10 01:15 PM |
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dionysus |
Oct-07-10 01:16 PM |
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Yep! I sure would like to know who |
golddigger |
Oct-07-10 01:17 PM |
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So, your idea is that any legislator voting for a law found to be unconstitutional |
onenote |
Oct-07-10 01:22 PM |
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If the law has been clearly crafted so that illegal activities are found legal |
truedelphi |
Oct-07-10 01:33 PM |
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You are aware that treason has a defined legal definition? |
tritsofme |
Oct-07-10 01:49 PM |
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today's sc is a fundie shithole, & those who support the rights of transnational corps over the |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-07-10 01:58 PM |
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If you're talking about the Felonious Five, they have already |
sabrina 1 |
Oct-07-10 03:29 PM |
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Voting for a bill, in accordance with the Constituiton, is not treason... |
Ozymanithrax |
Oct-07-10 01:30 PM |
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they *are* levying war again the people, & adhering to our enemies. |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-07-10 01:59 PM |
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When did the notary public war begin? |
Ozymanithrax |
Oct-07-10 02:46 PM |
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Then let's just call it 'betrayal of the people they swore to |
sabrina 1 |
Oct-07-10 03:32 PM |
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Since the bill has been presented here, and I read it... |
Ozymanithrax |
Oct-07-10 04:59 PM |
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Well, thank you for your response. However, it is wrong to say |
sabrina 1 |
Oct-07-10 06:26 PM |
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However: |
truedelphi |
Oct-07-10 03:45 PM |
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Sorry, it become interstate commerce when they move across the border. |
Ozymanithrax |
Oct-07-10 05:03 PM |
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Wrong. E-Commerce (the precursor to this bill) which gives legal |
COLGATE4 |
Oct-07-10 05:20 PM |
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I call it "Massive Fraud" against the American people. |
golddigger |
Oct-07-10 04:51 PM |
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Please show me evidence where the entire house and entire Senate.. |
Ozymanithrax |
Oct-07-10 05:05 PM |
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Maybe that there was no House or Senate vote on this. |
golddigger |
Oct-07-10 05:30 PM |
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It passed the House April 27, 2010 by a voice vote. |
Ozymanithrax |
Oct-07-10 05:40 PM |
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NOT |
elleng |
Oct-07-10 09:00 PM |
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I am sick of the "nitpicking defense" |
placton |
Oct-07-10 01:34 PM |
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Yes we have to wonder when (not if) the law will be signed. |
truedelphi |
Oct-07-10 01:35 PM |
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He just pocket vetoed it, so it can't be overridden by the Congress, |
Better Today |
Oct-07-10 01:46 PM |
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yeah and watch what happens RIGHT AFTER |
placton |
Oct-07-10 01:51 PM |
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Hopefully, the Oval Office folks now know enough people are watching over this, |
truedelphi |
Oct-07-10 03:32 PM |
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It's only a pocket veto if Congress goes out of session |
Recursion |
Oct-07-10 02:17 PM |
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That's what I was worried about, but the headlines seem to indicate |
Better Today |
Oct-07-10 05:55 PM |
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here is the senate history of this atrocity |
placton |
Oct-07-10 01:49 PM |
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You forgot pocket vetoed by the President. |
Ozymanithrax |
Oct-07-10 01:58 PM |
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I got sent my absentee ballot the other day and all I do is stare and stare at it |
truedelphi |
Oct-07-10 02:18 PM |
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If you do not vote for a Democrat with your ballot... |
Ozymanithrax |
Oct-07-10 02:42 PM |
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If rumors are true...the President is not going to sign this bill. . |
BrklynLiberal |
Oct-07-10 01:54 PM |
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I just called the White House phone line |
truedelphi |
Oct-07-10 02:09 PM |
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GREAT NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!! |
BrklynLiberal |
Oct-07-10 04:02 PM |
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kr. is there a list? |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-07-10 01:55 PM |
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Approved "unanimously" by everyone on the floor of |
truedelphi |
Oct-07-10 02:12 PM |
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Unanimous consent isn't mysterious. |
Ozymanithrax |
Oct-07-10 02:21 PM |
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if we don't know who was there, it *is* mysterious. |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-07-10 02:29 PM |
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Read the Senate rule... |
Ozymanithrax |
Oct-07-10 02:37 PM |
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Please grab the Fifth Amendment of the Cosntitution and read it. |
truedelphi |
Oct-07-10 03:29 PM |
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so we have no way of knowing who voted for it? how convenient for "democracy". |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-07-10 02:28 PM |
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You know that every Senator agrees with this bill. |
Ozymanithrax |
Oct-07-10 02:40 PM |
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no, i don't know that. i don't know who was on the floor, i don't know who voted for the bill, |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-07-10 03:48 PM |
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Two things... |
Ozymanithrax |
Oct-07-10 05:07 PM |
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The bill deals with interstate commerce which is the exclusive power of the U.S. Congress. |
Ozymanithrax |
Oct-07-10 01:56 PM |
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you really miss the point. |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-07-10 02:00 PM |
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You mean about Congressmen, who have the Constitutional power to vote on bills... |
Ozymanithrax |
Oct-07-10 02:06 PM |
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would be if they property was given to the Chinese as payment |
glinda |
Oct-08-10 12:01 AM |
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This HR 3808? |
aikoaiko |
Oct-07-10 02:05 PM |
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yes: senate: senate bill S11592 |
placton |
Oct-07-10 02:09 PM |
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You know, they are allowed to do that. |
Ozymanithrax |
Oct-07-10 02:15 PM |
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Well first we saw that "Hope" was just a campaign slogan |
truedelphi |
Oct-07-10 02:22 PM |
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Every Senator agreed with the bill in a Unanimous Consent. |
Ozymanithrax |
Oct-07-10 02:32 PM |
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I do not think that a bill that requires states to recognize legal |
Ozymanithrax |
Oct-07-10 02:11 PM |
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Again you and others need to see the larger ramifications of this bill |
truedelphi |
Oct-07-10 02:23 PM |
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Your OP was not about the ramifications of the bill. It flat makes and accusation of... |
Ozymanithrax |
Oct-07-10 02:35 PM |
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Yes, and this incendiary position has helped the message go VIRAL |
truedelphi |
Oct-07-10 03:26 PM |
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Check out the real meaning of this supposedly "innocuous" Act |
truedelphi |
Oct-07-10 02:16 PM |
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That was very interesting -- the implications weren't obvious to me. |
aikoaiko |
Oct-07-10 08:49 PM |
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That would actually be constitutional |
Abq_Sarah |
Oct-07-10 02:30 PM |
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Treason is... |
SDuderstadt |
Oct-07-10 02:24 PM |
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k&r |
freebrew |
Oct-07-10 02:33 PM |
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Thanks freebrew. This went Viral - not so |
truedelphi |
Oct-07-10 03:30 PM |
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President Obama won't sign notary bill, sends back to Congress |
Judi Lynn |
Oct-07-10 02:41 PM |
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That is great news. Thanks for posting. |
truedelphi |
Oct-07-10 03:24 PM |
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This bill is an outrage. They are working AGAINST the people |
sabrina 1 |
Oct-07-10 03:40 PM |
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Good news is that the President did not sign off on this. |
truedelphi |
Oct-07-10 03:49 PM |
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It cannot be treason to vote on a bill |
treestar |
Oct-07-10 04:04 PM |
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I don't really see much to object to in this bill, but whatever it is it ain't treason. |
apocalypsehow |
Oct-07-10 05:13 PM |
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There was NO Senate or House vote - |
karynnj |
Oct-07-10 05:15 PM |
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You are wrong... |
Ozymanithrax |
Oct-07-10 05:42 PM |
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Let me rephrase it - there was no recorded vote |
karynnj |
Oct-07-10 06:50 PM |
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As for the Senate, the Word Unanimous says it all. |
Ozymanithrax |
Oct-07-10 08:49 PM |
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I think that everyone is getting overly worked up over something that |
COLGATE4 |
Oct-07-10 05:27 PM |
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K&R |
Angry Dragon |
Oct-07-10 05:59 PM |
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The Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution: |
elleng |
Oct-07-10 08:57 PM |
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What does the Fifth Amendment have to do with the OP???? |
COLGATE4 |
Oct-07-10 09:28 PM |
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2d sentence of OP says: |
elleng |
Oct-07-10 09:43 PM |
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hr 3808 |
chefjim |
Oct-07-10 09:17 PM |
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K&R |
SlipperySlope |
Oct-08-10 12:00 AM |
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HIGHLY Recommended !!!!!!!!!! |
autorank |
Oct-08-10 01:18 AM |
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K&R |
Jamastiene |
Oct-08-10 01:55 AM |
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We're locking this. |
pinto |
Oct-08-10 02:49 AM |
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