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Fri Oct-08-10 09:24 AM
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| 72. “The decision ... to allow a family’s home to burn to the ground was incredibly irresponsible." |
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See? It's not that hard to figure this out.
Fire fighters gave a sane, rational, compassionate, responsible, adult opinion on this matter.
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| -The Final Word: Fire Fighters Condemn South Fulton, Tennessee Decision to Let Home Burn Down |
Better Believe It |
Oct-07-10 11:23 AM |
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I'm so glad this is the FINAL WORD. |
itsrobert |
Oct-07-10 11:24 AM |
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I'm also glad that fire fighters have the final word. And they are right! |
Better Believe It |
Oct-07-10 11:27 AM |
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One man's opinion. And you know what they say about opinions... |
COLGATE4 |
Oct-07-10 11:26 AM |
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One man's opinion? He's speaking for an organization representing 300,000 fire fighters! |
Better Believe It |
Oct-07-10 11:29 AM |
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You can't make that assumption. The fact that he holds the office |
COLGATE4 |
Oct-07-10 12:03 PM |
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You can't make the |
emilyg |
Oct-07-10 12:24 PM |
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well, the first comment is: |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-07-10 12:50 PM |
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NO, he's speaking in his official capacity as head of the Internation Association of Firefighters |
Matariki |
Oct-07-10 12:27 PM |
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IAFF is not 'one man'. nt |
RaleighNCDUer |
Oct-07-10 11:48 AM |
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One union's opinion. |
Gormy Cuss |
Oct-07-10 11:50 AM |
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Same point as above. Or is there some evidence somewhere |
COLGATE4 |
Oct-07-10 12:11 PM |
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You can call it opinion all you want... |
derby378 |
Oct-07-10 12:24 PM |
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When issuing a position as head of the union, he is speaking on behalf of the membership. |
Gormy Cuss |
Oct-07-10 12:25 PM |
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You have it exactly backwards... |
The Uncola |
Oct-08-10 09:11 AM |
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Well done.. |
joe black |
Oct-08-10 10:04 AM |
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And that is that. |
jaxx |
Oct-07-10 11:27 AM |
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Final Word? Really? |
Bunny |
Oct-07-10 11:28 AM |
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Yes! Case Closed. |
Better Believe It |
Oct-07-10 11:31 AM |
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these actions regarding fires will eventually let people burn to death if not stopped. Go IAFF. |
Divine Discontent |
Oct-07-10 11:29 AM |
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Some here would still say they deserved it if that did happen. nt |
Incitatus |
Oct-07-10 12:14 PM |
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Parse it, they are asking for an investigation too |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-07-10 11:34 AM |
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So, the people of South Fulton should pay to provide fire service for the entire state of TN? |
Freddie Stubbs |
Oct-07-10 11:36 AM |
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No Obion CO should raise taxes to fund a FD |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-07-10 11:38 AM |
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A tax that would only cost pennies a year per parcel |
Tempest |
Oct-07-10 11:42 AM |
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I know but that is like socialist and shit |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-07-10 11:51 AM |
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Of course they should. But if they do not, is South Fulton obliged to provide fire service to |
Freddie Stubbs |
Oct-07-10 11:43 AM |
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If you are there YOU ACT |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-07-10 11:50 AM |
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Did they show up at the fire? If so, why not turn the hoses on? |
Better Believe It |
Oct-07-10 12:44 PM |
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That's not what the statement says |
PVnRT |
Oct-07-10 12:35 PM |
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Cert review, re-read the statement, that is what they are |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-07-10 12:55 PM |
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Yes, I've gotten it for a while, oh wise one |
PVnRT |
Oct-07-10 12:56 PM |
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No what makes you in agreement with Beck is that |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-07-10 01:19 PM |
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Ermmm. The firefighters were government employees. |
txaslftist |
Oct-08-10 08:51 AM |
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This is what I would expect, and restores my faith in public safety personnel. |
TwilightGardener |
Oct-07-10 11:41 AM |
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Most understand that the fire fighters are right on this. |
TexasObserver |
Oct-08-10 09:41 AM |
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They must be SOCIALISTS!!! |
K8-EEE |
Oct-07-10 11:41 AM |
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Yes! They only put out fires of people who can produce their "professional left" membership cards |
Better Believe It |
Oct-07-10 11:43 AM |
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Does the IAFF extend it's benefits&union privileges to firefighters who don't pay dues to the IAFF? |
Swede |
Oct-07-10 11:45 AM |
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I'm not even a firefighter, but I could really use a pension. In fact, I'd say |
petronius |
Oct-07-10 11:49 AM |
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It can't represent and win public employee benefits for fire fighters it does not represent. |
Better Believe It |
Oct-07-10 11:59 AM |
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Yet the IAFF says that South Fulton should shoulder the burden for protecting the entire county |
PVnRT |
Oct-07-10 12:37 PM |
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The fire fighters were there. All they had to do was turn on their hoses. They were on the clock! |
Better Believe It |
Oct-07-10 12:43 PM |
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south fulton's fire dept is mostly volunteer, sorry. even volunteer fire depts cost serious bucks. |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-07-10 12:48 PM |
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Well, they could have "volunteered" to turn on their hoses! |
Better Believe It |
Oct-07-10 12:52 PM |
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i wonder if their insurance would have paid for their injuries or damages |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-07-10 01:16 PM |
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They didn't say that. They just commented on this specific incident. |
Better Believe It |
Oct-07-10 12:54 PM |
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Let's say they fight the fire and bill the guy |
PVnRT |
Oct-07-10 01:01 PM |
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here's one of the responses to their editorial |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-07-10 01:05 PM |
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1. It was not an editorial. 2. It is not a response to the IAFF news release. |
Better Believe It |
Oct-07-10 04:25 PM |
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73... |
HuckleB |
Oct-07-10 11:46 AM |
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Looks like you'll be able to stop doing that: "Final Word" has been declared! |
petronius |
Oct-07-10 11:49 AM |
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we can only hope it is |
SargeUNN |
Oct-07-10 11:49 AM |
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Thank you, IAFF |
WeekendWarrior |
Oct-07-10 11:51 AM |
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I guess "responsible" means |
PVnRT |
Oct-07-10 12:38 PM |
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No. The county should change their tax code to cover basic services. |
Matariki |
Oct-07-10 12:59 PM |
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They tried. It was voted down 19-1. |
PVnRT |
Oct-07-10 01:01 PM |
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They represent paid firefighters |
Abq_Sarah |
Oct-07-10 12:08 PM |
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You'd think they'd be on the side of these firefighters then. |
Pithlet |
Oct-07-10 12:18 PM |
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Cognitive dissonance |
Abq_Sarah |
Oct-07-10 12:22 PM |
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Volunteer firefighting will never go away in rural areas |
musiclawyer |
Oct-07-10 12:21 PM |
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In most instances I actually agree. I think it should almost never happen. |
Pithlet |
Oct-07-10 12:33 PM |
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In most instances I actually agree. I think it should almost never happen. |
Pithlet |
Oct-07-10 12:33 PM |
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Do you have any credible links to back up your attack on the fire fighters organization? |
Better Believe It |
Oct-07-10 12:37 PM |
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Don't be absurd |
Abq_Sarah |
Oct-07-10 01:04 PM |
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The writer is certainly appropriately-named: |
kentauros |
Oct-07-10 12:22 PM |
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In Obion County... |
hayu_lol |
Oct-07-10 01:03 PM |
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I wonder if IAFF extends its benefits to firefighters who don't pay into the union? |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-07-10 12:55 PM |
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The benefits are paid by the employers that fire fighters have a contract with., not the IAFF |
Better Believe It |
Oct-07-10 01:48 PM |
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Maybe IAFF could arrange for Obion county to fund uniform county-wide fire service |
struggle4progress |
Oct-07-10 02:20 PM |
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I have two questions for him. |
JVS |
Oct-07-10 04:38 PM |
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I've never heard of IAFF affiliated fire fighters going on strike. |
Better Believe It |
Oct-07-10 09:37 PM |
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The Final Word: Real fire fighters rock who don't refuse to put out fires! |
Better Believe It |
Oct-08-10 08:34 AM |
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I'll take a firefighters word over that of a libertarian dickwad...KNR. |
joeybee12 |
Oct-08-10 09:17 AM |
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“The decision ... to allow a family’s home to burn to the ground was incredibly irresponsible." |
TexasObserver |
Oct-08-10 09:24 AM |
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"Nice house. It would be a shame if something were to happen to it." |
lame54 |
Oct-08-10 09:47 AM |
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This should be the last word. |
Lucian |
Oct-08-10 09:47 AM |
#75 |
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