You are viewing an obsolete version of the DU website which is no longer supported by the Administrators. Visit The New DU.
Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login

Reply #65: 1. It was not an editorial. 2. It is not a response to the IAFF news release. [View All]

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 04:25 PM
Response to Reply #60
65. 1. It was not an editorial. 2. It is not a response to the IAFF news release.
Edited on Thu Oct-07-10 04:27 PM by Better Believe It

And if you had been there as a fire fighter you would have stood around and just watched it burn down?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
  -The Final Word: Fire Fighters Condemn South Fulton, Tennessee Decision to Let Home Burn Down Better Believe It  Oct-07-10 11:23 AM   #0 
  - I'm so glad this is the FINAL WORD.  itsrobert   Oct-07-10 11:24 AM   #1 
  - I'm also glad that fire fighters have the final word. And they are right!  Better Believe It   Oct-07-10 11:27 AM   #4 
  - One man's opinion. And you know what they say about opinions...  COLGATE4   Oct-07-10 11:26 AM   #2 
  - One man's opinion? He's speaking for an organization representing 300,000 fire fighters!  Better Believe It   Oct-07-10 11:29 AM   #6 
  - You can't make that assumption. The fact that he holds the office  COLGATE4   Oct-07-10 12:03 PM   #28 
     - You can't make the  emilyg   Oct-07-10 12:24 PM   #36 
     - well, the first comment is:  Hannah Bell   Oct-07-10 12:50 PM   #49 
     - NO, he's speaking in his official capacity as head of the Internation Association of Firefighters  Matariki   Oct-07-10 12:27 PM   #39 
  - IAFF is not 'one man'. nt  RaleighNCDUer   Oct-07-10 11:48 AM   #19 
  - One union's opinion.  Gormy Cuss   Oct-07-10 11:50 AM   #24 
     - Same point as above. Or is there some evidence somewhere  COLGATE4   Oct-07-10 12:11 PM   #30 
        - You can call it opinion all you want...  derby378   Oct-07-10 12:24 PM   #37 
        - When issuing a position as head of the union, he is speaking on behalf of the membership.  Gormy Cuss   Oct-07-10 12:25 PM   #38 
        - You have it exactly backwards...  The Uncola   Oct-08-10 09:11 AM   #70 
           - Well done..  joe black   Oct-08-10 10:04 AM   #76 
  - And that is that.  jaxx   Oct-07-10 11:27 AM   #3 
  - Final Word? Really?  Bunny   Oct-07-10 11:28 AM   #5 
  - Yes! Case Closed.  Better Believe It   Oct-07-10 11:31 AM   #8 
  - these actions regarding fires will eventually let people burn to death if not stopped. Go IAFF.  Divine Discontent   Oct-07-10 11:29 AM   #7 
  - Some here would still say they deserved it if that did happen. nt  Incitatus   Oct-07-10 12:14 PM   #31 
  - Parse it, they are asking for an investigation too  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-07-10 11:34 AM   #9 
  - So, the people of South Fulton should pay to provide fire service for the entire state of TN?  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-07-10 11:36 AM   #10 
  - No Obion CO should raise taxes to fund a FD  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-07-10 11:38 AM   #11 
     - A tax that would only cost pennies a year per parcel  Tempest   Oct-07-10 11:42 AM   #14 
     - I know but that is like socialist and shit  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-07-10 11:51 AM   #26 
     - Of course they should. But if they do not, is South Fulton obliged to provide fire service to  Freddie Stubbs   Oct-07-10 11:43 AM   #15 
     - If you are there YOU ACT  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-07-10 11:50 AM   #23 
     - Did they show up at the fire? If so, why not turn the hoses on?  Better Believe It   Oct-07-10 12:44 PM   #47 
     - That's not what the statement says  PVnRT   Oct-07-10 12:35 PM   #42 
        - Cert review, re-read the statement, that is what they are  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-07-10 12:55 PM   #52 
           - Yes, I've gotten it for a while, oh wise one  PVnRT   Oct-07-10 12:56 PM   #54 
              - No what makes you in agreement with Beck is that  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-07-10 01:19 PM   #62 
                 - Ermmm. The firefighters were government employees.  txaslftist   Oct-08-10 08:51 AM   #69 
  - This is what I would expect, and restores my faith in public safety personnel.  TwilightGardener   Oct-07-10 11:41 AM   #12 
  - Most understand that the fire fighters are right on this.  TexasObserver   Oct-08-10 09:41 AM   #73 
  - They must be SOCIALISTS!!!  K8-EEE   Oct-07-10 11:41 AM   #13 
  - Yes! They only put out fires of people who can produce their "professional left" membership cards  Better Believe It   Oct-07-10 11:43 AM   #16 
  - Does the IAFF extend it's benefits&union privileges to firefighters who don't pay dues to the IAFF?  Swede   Oct-07-10 11:45 AM   #17 
  - I'm not even a firefighter, but I could really use a pension. In fact, I'd say  petronius   Oct-07-10 11:49 AM   #20 
  - It can't represent and win public employee benefits for fire fighters it does not represent.  Better Believe It   Oct-07-10 11:59 AM   #27 
     - Yet the IAFF says that South Fulton should shoulder the burden for protecting the entire county  PVnRT   Oct-07-10 12:37 PM   #44 
        - The fire fighters were there. All they had to do was turn on their hoses. They were on the clock!  Better Believe It   Oct-07-10 12:43 PM   #46 
        - south fulton's fire dept is mostly volunteer, sorry. even volunteer fire depts cost serious bucks.  Hannah Bell   Oct-07-10 12:48 PM   #48 
           - Well, they could have "volunteered" to turn on their hoses!  Better Believe It   Oct-07-10 12:52 PM   #50 
              - i wonder if their insurance would have paid for their injuries or damages  Hannah Bell   Oct-07-10 01:16 PM   #61 
        - They didn't say that. They just commented on this specific incident.  Better Believe It   Oct-07-10 12:54 PM   #51 
           - Let's say they fight the fire and bill the guy  PVnRT   Oct-07-10 01:01 PM   #56 
           - here's one of the responses to their editorial  Hannah Bell   Oct-07-10 01:05 PM   #60 
              - 1. It was not an editorial. 2. It is not a response to the IAFF news release.  Better Believe It   Oct-07-10 04:25 PM   #65 
  - 73...  HuckleB   Oct-07-10 11:46 AM   #18 
  - Looks like you'll be able to stop doing that: "Final Word" has been declared!  petronius   Oct-07-10 11:49 AM   #22 
  - we can only hope it is  SargeUNN   Oct-07-10 11:49 AM   #21 
  - Thank you, IAFF  WeekendWarrior   Oct-07-10 11:51 AM   #25 
  - I guess "responsible" means  PVnRT   Oct-07-10 12:38 PM   #45 
     - No. The county should change their tax code to cover basic services.  Matariki   Oct-07-10 12:59 PM   #55 
        - They tried. It was voted down 19-1.  PVnRT   Oct-07-10 01:01 PM   #57 
  - They represent paid firefighters  Abq_Sarah   Oct-07-10 12:08 PM   #29 
  - You'd think they'd be on the side of these firefighters then.  Pithlet   Oct-07-10 12:18 PM   #32 
  - Cognitive dissonance  Abq_Sarah   Oct-07-10 12:22 PM   #35 
  - Volunteer firefighting will never go away in rural areas  musiclawyer   Oct-07-10 12:21 PM   #33 
  - In most instances I actually agree. I think it should almost never happen.  Pithlet   Oct-07-10 12:33 PM   #40 
  - In most instances I actually agree. I think it should almost never happen.  Pithlet   Oct-07-10 12:33 PM   #41 
  - Do you have any credible links to back up your attack on the fire fighters organization?  Better Believe It   Oct-07-10 12:37 PM   #43 
     - Don't be absurd  Abq_Sarah   Oct-07-10 01:04 PM   #59 
  - The writer is certainly appropriately-named:  kentauros   Oct-07-10 12:22 PM   #34 
  - In Obion County...  hayu_lol   Oct-07-10 01:03 PM   #58 
  - I wonder if IAFF extends its benefits to firefighters who don't pay into the union?  Hannah Bell   Oct-07-10 12:55 PM   #53 
  - The benefits are paid by the employers that fire fighters have a contract with., not the IAFF  Better Believe It   Oct-07-10 01:48 PM   #63 
  - Maybe IAFF could arrange for Obion county to fund uniform county-wide fire service  struggle4progress   Oct-07-10 02:20 PM   #64 
  - I have two questions for him.  JVS   Oct-07-10 04:38 PM   #66 
  - I've never heard of IAFF affiliated fire fighters going on strike.  Better Believe It   Oct-07-10 09:37 PM   #67 
  - The Final Word: Real fire fighters rock who don't refuse to put out fires!  Better Believe It   Oct-08-10 08:34 AM   #68 
  - I'll take a firefighters word over that of a libertarian dickwad...KNR.  joeybee12   Oct-08-10 09:17 AM   #71 
  - The decision ... to allow a familys home to burn to the ground was incredibly irresponsible."  TexasObserver   Oct-08-10 09:24 AM   #72 
  - "Nice house. It would be a shame if something were to happen to it."  lame54   Oct-08-10 09:47 AM   #74 
  - This should be the last word.  Lucian   Oct-08-10 09:47 AM   #75 

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators

Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC