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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 11:12 AM
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2. Gosh there's the argument for insurance mandates
And how many of the people arguing to let the house burn are also beating the fuck out of Obama for the insurance mandate.

Do you think no one ever got a fire put out who hadn't paid their property taxes?

And is that really what you're saying this country should be? Pay or die?

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  -If people can pay a fee for fire department service, and they choose not to pay raccoon  Oct-06-10 11:08 AM   #0 
  - Fees need to be enforceable. I could go for years and years without paying property tax...  slackmaster   Oct-06-10 11:11 AM   #1 
  - Good point. nt  raccoon   Oct-06-10 11:15 AM   #4 
  - Fee system bad. A lot of rural county fire departments are volunteer, but  northoftheborder   Oct-06-10 11:22 AM   #10 
  - Gosh there's the argument for insurance mandates  sandnsea   Oct-06-10 11:12 AM   #2 
  - Umm.. That *is* what this country is right now..  Fumesucker   Oct-06-10 11:16 AM   #5 
  - Well no it isn't, but thanks for playing n/t  sandnsea   Oct-06-10 11:20 AM   #9 
     - Really? People don't die in the USA of treatable diseases?  Fumesucker   Oct-06-10 11:33 AM   #23 
        - No, people don't lay in the street and die  sandnsea   Oct-06-10 11:35 AM   #28 
           - Nice dodge..  Fumesucker   Oct-06-10 11:48 AM   #36 
              - I don't dodge anything  sandnsea   Oct-06-10 11:59 AM   #39 
                 - No, the issue is people dying of treatable conditions due to lack of treatment..  Fumesucker   Oct-06-10 12:01 PM   #40 
  - County residents made their choice as to what fire department funding they wanted  KittyWampus   Oct-06-10 11:27 AM   #14 
  - Fire Departments aren't for-profit corporations.  Marr   Oct-06-10 11:35 AM   #27 
  - BUT!!! If lightening strikes a power pole and it sets my house on fire  HereSince1628   Oct-06-10 11:13 AM   #3 
  - There is no incentive.  JVS   Oct-06-10 11:18 AM   #6 
  - Another reason why fee-based fire protection fails miserably.  wtmusic   Oct-06-10 11:19 AM   #7 
  - Exactly. NYC had subscription fire services at one time.  stopbush   Oct-06-10 11:30 AM   #18 
  - How about a subscription Department of Defense??  smirkymonkey   Oct-06-10 12:19 PM   #44 
  - Another reason why fee-based fire protection fails miser all of us on DU agrees  left is right   Oct-06-10 11:44 AM   #34 
     - Unless that vote was 100% in favor, there were some people  stopbush   Oct-06-10 11:50 AM   #38 
  - I won't want to live next door...  Mumble   Oct-06-10 11:20 AM   #8 
  - In this case, the FD only responded because the neighbor's field caught on fire  wtmusic   Oct-06-10 11:23 AM   #11 
  - What you do is then charge the person for the fire department services  MadHound   Oct-06-10 11:24 AM   #12 
  - No, you're wrong. There are no legal grounds to try and collect the  COLGATE4   Oct-06-10 11:29 AM   #16 
  - Then this bill I have from the local Fire Department for responding to my  wtmusic   Oct-06-10 11:31 AM   #20 
  - Really? What's that about?? n/t  sandnsea   Oct-06-10 11:38 AM   #31 
  - Oh, gee, then having been a firefighter on a volunteer fire department, and seeing this happen,  MadHound   Oct-06-10 11:33 AM   #22 
     - Apparently the law in TN is different  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-06-10 12:17 PM   #43 
        - Yeah, I guess I'm just a crazy old duffer now,  MadHound   Oct-06-10 12:27 PM   #45 
  - To add to your idea ...  Hassin Bin Sober   Oct-06-10 11:33 AM   #21 
  - Fire Department put people and animals in harms way and should be ashamed!  LynneSin   Oct-06-10 11:24 AM   #13 
  - I'd say the delinquent home owner is the one who put others in harms way.  KittyWampus   Oct-06-10 11:29 AM   #15 
  - Suppose the fire happened at night when the "delinquent homeowner"  stopbush   Oct-06-10 11:34 AM   #25 
  - Then you send them the bill for the cost of the call  LynneSin   Oct-06-10 11:34 AM   #26 
  - A point made by the homeowner whose home burned down  stopbush   Oct-06-10 11:43 AM   #33 
     - On a technical issue  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-06-10 12:37 PM   #46 
  - And who pays when the embers from a non-payer's house are blown into a local forest?  Lyric   Oct-06-10 11:30 AM   #17 
  - That is why they have to be mandated, we used to call them taxes  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-06-10 11:31 AM   #19 
  - They should be required to pay all costs of putting out their fire.  MH1   Oct-06-10 11:33 AM   #24 
  - Such a no-brainer isn't it  sandnsea   Oct-06-10 11:37 AM   #30 
     - Pay me now, or pay me later  Xipe Totec   Oct-06-10 11:44 AM   #35 
  - So the goal is to get people to pay fees?  fasttense   Oct-06-10 11:35 AM   #29 
  - The question that should be asked, raccoon  canetoad   Oct-06-10 11:41 AM   #32 
  - The humane thing to do would have been to  catbyte   Oct-06-10 11:49 AM   #37 
  - Apparently TN law does not allow a FD to get a judgement..  Fumesucker   Oct-06-10 12:03 PM   #41 
  - Absolutely, because fires NEVER spread.  valerief   Oct-06-10 12:03 PM   #42 
 

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