| 57. Anybody who can afford it should choose to pay: it's the responsible thing to do. |
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Though I'd rather see fire protection costs rolled into property taxes.
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| -The Man Did NOT Forget To Pay The Fire Fee. He Deliberately Chose Not To. |
KittyWampus |
Oct-06-10 09:35 AM |
#0 |
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So - many people in his district didn't pay. Some had fires and were allowed to pay the next day. |
LaurenG |
Oct-06-10 09:37 AM |
#1 |
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That's the problem with doing people favors--people use your kindness as a weapon against you. |
Romulox |
Oct-06-10 09:42 AM |
#6 |
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He was but the punishment doesn't fit the crime. nt |
LaurenG |
Oct-06-10 09:44 AM |
# |
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There was no "punishment"--just cause and effect. nt |
Romulox |
Oct-06-10 09:47 AM |
#13 |
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I call BS - his neighbor had a fire and was allowed to pay later |
LaurenG |
Oct-06-10 09:48 AM |
#16 |
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Cranik had an earlier fire, which was extinguished despite him being a non-subscriber |
struggle4progress |
Oct-06-10 06:42 PM |
#195 |
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It's strange how many bring up the word "punishment". |
KittyWampus |
Oct-06-10 09:50 AM |
#19 |
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It's also strange that so many (especially here!)would allow this to happen without a thought |
LaurenG |
Oct-06-10 09:54 AM |
#25 |
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Authoritarian? Again, interesting choice of words. |
KittyWampus |
Oct-06-10 09:58 AM |
#33 |
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Why, you don't see it that way? It's OK with you? |
LaurenG |
Oct-06-10 10:02 AM |
#35 |
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Please help me here. |
LiberalAndProud |
Oct-06-10 02:20 PM |
#131 |
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Caviat: no subscription, no service unless human lives are at risk. |
LiberalAndProud |
Oct-06-10 03:51 PM |
#165 |
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It's pseudo-religious thinking-- SOMEBODY (something) has to be to blame for this force of nature! |
Romulox |
Oct-06-10 09:56 AM |
#32 |
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Yeah...a "force of nature" called a fire department who chose |
whathehell |
Oct-06-10 12:31 PM |
#111 |
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Don't blame the FD for the animals when the friggin owner of the pets had around 2 hours |
Bodhi BloodWave |
Oct-06-10 02:41 PM |
#139 |
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Link? n/t |
whathehell |
Oct-06-10 05:06 PM |
#172 |
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You're the second person here to say that but be unable to provid a link. n/ |
whathehell |
Oct-06-10 06:44 PM |
#196 |
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Now it's LOGIC that's the big meany here, I guess. |
Romulox |
Oct-07-10 09:07 AM |
#245 |
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your stance on this issue seems to be in conflict with your signature line |
Sheepshank |
Oct-06-10 05:09 PM |
#174 |
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Um, nonsense? |
Romulox |
Oct-07-10 09:04 AM |
#243 |
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oooh you sound terribly noble |
Sheepshank |
Oct-07-10 09:22 AM |
#248 |
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And you sound like a waste of time. nt |
Romulox |
Oct-07-10 09:25 AM |
#249 |
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hmmm dismissive, all important attempt at being the strong one |
Sheepshank |
Oct-07-10 09:47 AM |
#250 |
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Agreed..The man was on KO last night and he said he offered to pay them right then! |
whathehell |
Oct-06-10 09:48 AM |
#15 |
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Lauren...his grandson(the firestarter)has a place a few miles from this one... |
hayu_lol |
Oct-06-10 09:53 AM |
#24 |
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No - I don't care what his grandson did. It's wrong not to pay your $75 |
LaurenG |
Oct-06-10 09:56 AM |
#31 |
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That's what TAXES are for |
catbyte |
Oct-06-10 10:24 AM |
#71 |
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which is why the county system is at fault -- they refused to fund a fire department |
fishwax |
Oct-06-10 04:31 PM |
#167 |
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I thought they had the fee waived because they agreed to pay |
mmonk |
Oct-06-10 10:34 AM |
#81 |
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then if there's a fire the next day, they'll put it out |
gmoney |
Oct-06-10 11:29 AM |
#105 |
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dupe |
gmoney |
Oct-06-10 11:30 AM |
#106 |
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Well, then, that served his pets right. Didn't it? |
madfloridian |
Oct-06-10 09:37 AM |
# |
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Absolutely right, madflor. Life was lost |
catbyte |
Oct-06-10 09:42 AM |
#5 |
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You see the beginnings of the breakdown in the fact that his son allegedly assaulted the fire chief |
closeupready |
Oct-06-10 10:17 AM |
#58 |
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subscription" to 911 |
Corgigal |
Oct-06-10 05:14 PM |
#176 |
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Well said, Madfloridian. |
whathehell |
Oct-06-10 09:44 AM |
#9 |
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As pointed out on another thread yesterday... |
freebrew |
Oct-06-10 10:19 AM |
#66 |
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Okay, I FREELY Admit That I don't Know About How Taxes Are Levied Here |
ChiciB1 |
Oct-06-10 10:29 AM |
#76 |
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No they do not |
JustAmused |
Oct-06-10 04:59 PM |
#171 |
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They "chose" |
whathehell |
Oct-06-10 11:57 AM |
#109 |
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Check the time line in the second half of this story: |
hedgehog |
Oct-06-10 02:23 PM |
#132 |
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mad, fire well out in back yard. took time to get to house. animals in house. do you get them out |
seabeyond |
Oct-06-10 10:04 AM |
#36 |
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Your question shows me that our country may well have reached |
madfloridian |
Oct-06-10 10:11 AM |
#49 |
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are you for real. basic common sense. listening to a man tell a story about dead animals |
seabeyond |
Oct-06-10 10:16 AM |
#54 |
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I sense the deep compassion in your post. |
madfloridian |
Oct-06-10 10:19 AM |
#62 |
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seabeyond brings up a good point |
muriel_volestrangler |
Oct-06-10 10:23 AM |
# |
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again, common sense. IF and that is a big IF the fire spread THAT fast, then |
seabeyond |
Oct-06-10 10:26 AM |
#74 |
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i am angry that you have the audacity to point at me and cry uncompassionate as a man left his dogs |
seabeyond |
Oct-06-10 10:24 AM |
#72 |
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Yeh, well I am angry also. Angry to see people become uncompassionate. |
madfloridian |
Oct-06-10 10:28 AM |
#75 |
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anti democratic is embracing a libertarian agenda that GUTS the democratic |
seabeyond |
Oct-06-10 10:30 AM |
#78 |
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Is this a generational thing? |
catbyte |
Oct-06-10 10:42 AM |
#89 |
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it is the anti tax movement that is taking hold. and it is destroying out infrastructure. |
seabeyond |
Oct-06-10 10:50 AM |
#96 |
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You might be right, Catbyte, because those were the days of Real Democrats.. |
whathehell |
Oct-06-10 01:05 PM |
#116 |
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so if we are attacking the libertarian county does that make us UNREAL dmeocrats? |
seabeyond |
Oct-06-10 01:27 PM |
#121 |
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Self-delete |
whathehell |
Oct-06-10 01:34 PM |
#123 |
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That's not what I'm saying.. |
whathehell |
Oct-06-10 01:37 PM |
#125 |
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fine. i dont have a position because personally i could not make that decision, but |
seabeyond |
Oct-06-10 01:50 PM |
#127 |
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I have no idea what the heck you think I am saying. |
madfloridian |
Oct-06-10 10:44 AM |
#91 |
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What? |
catbyte |
Oct-06-10 10:26 AM |
#73 |
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oh FFS. |
dionysus |
Oct-06-10 10:18 AM |
#60 |
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This psychic squaw reads Cranick as a Republican tea party type |
Mimosa |
Oct-06-10 06:02 PM |
#182 |
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i think. i think there is a county of em. i aint payin no taxes for no socialist govt run |
seabeyond |
Oct-06-10 06:05 PM |
#184 |
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The blame belongs to the county for not levying a tax |
rocktivity |
Oct-06-10 09:37 AM |
#2 |
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Very good point. I stand corrected. |
KittyWampus |
Oct-06-10 09:38 AM |
#3 |
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+10000000 |
Klukie |
Oct-06-10 09:40 AM |
#4 |
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This guy probably SOUGHT OUT a tax free haven in which to live |
Romulox |
Oct-06-10 09:44 AM |
#8 |
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A county wide tax would have been only pennies per house |
Tempest |
Oct-06-10 09:48 AM |
#17 |
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Exactly. (nt) |
w4rma |
Oct-06-10 10:09 AM |
#45 |
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Exactly...nt |
SidDithers |
Oct-06-10 10:17 AM |
#59 |
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True, but never let the sensible answer get in the way of some righteous rants. |
TreasonousBastard |
Oct-06-10 10:19 AM |
#64 |
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Counties can't levy tax w/o a vote. |
freebrew |
Oct-06-10 10:23 AM |
#68 |
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Then either the state should levy it |
rocktivity |
Oct-06-10 10:32 AM |
#79 |
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We've got to get over this fear of the "t" word |
deutsey |
Oct-06-10 02:29 PM |
#134 |
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FTW |
PVnRT |
Oct-06-10 02:33 PM |
#137 |
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+1 |
fishwax |
Oct-06-10 04:33 PM |
#168 |
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+1000000000000 |
Mass |
Oct-06-10 06:51 PM |
#203 |
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fee, tax same diff |
Tuesday Afternoon |
Oct-06-10 09:43 AM |
#7 |
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in America, EVERYTHING has a price tag.... |
mike_c |
Oct-06-10 09:44 AM |
#10 |
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And the point is, it shouldn't |
catbyte |
Oct-06-10 09:46 AM |
#11 |
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exactly.... |
mike_c |
Oct-06-10 09:48 AM |
#14 |
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Welcome to Rand Paul’s kind of world. n/t |
Little Star |
Oct-06-10 10:11 AM |
#48 |
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Thats bcos money doesn't grow on trees |
janewin |
Oct-06-10 10:30 PM |
#227 |
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When you gamble, every now and again, you WILL throw snake eyes! |
Behind the Aegis |
Oct-06-10 09:47 AM |
#12 |
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And your pets die a gruesome death. great. |
catbyte |
Oct-06-10 09:51 AM |
#21 |
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The penatly for gambling with the lives of others. |
Behind the Aegis |
Oct-06-10 09:54 AM |
#27 |
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Sorry, that doesn't wash with me. |
catbyte |
Oct-06-10 10:04 AM |
#37 |
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Of course it doesn't. |
Behind the Aegis |
Oct-06-10 10:08 AM |
#43 |
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False Equasion: $=Life |
catbyte |
Oct-06-10 10:18 AM |
#61 |
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Is $75.00 worth that to you? |
LaurenG |
Oct-06-10 12:55 PM |
#114 |
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Logical fallices abound. |
Behind the Aegis |
Oct-06-10 01:24 PM |
#120 |
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Don't talk to me about logic since you seem to think it's logical to allow a mans home |
LaurenG |
Oct-06-10 01:34 PM |
#124 |
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More logical fallices, at least these are more common. |
Behind the Aegis |
Oct-06-10 02:26 PM |
#133 |
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Good grief |
LaurenG |
Oct-06-10 02:46 PM |
#142 |
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Because what is the point? You clearly have no use for reason or logic... |
Behind the Aegis |
Oct-06-10 02:48 PM |
#143 |
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Who is projecting? |
LaurenG |
Oct-06-10 02:54 PM |
#144 |
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You are projecting. |
Behind the Aegis |
Oct-06-10 02:57 PM |
#148 |
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Ok so it was his fault that he didn't pay the bill. |
LaurenG |
Oct-06-10 03:02 PM |
#155 |
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Good. You are starting to understand. |
Behind the Aegis |
Oct-06-10 03:09 PM |
#158 |
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Fault? I thought the fault had been established. I thought this was a debate about |
LaurenG |
Oct-06-10 05:47 PM |
#178 |
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The precedent? |
Behind the Aegis |
Oct-06-10 11:43 PM |
#235 |
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It was stated on Keith Olbermann's show |
LaurenG |
Oct-07-10 05:50 PM |
#251 |
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Thanks for the link. |
Behind the Aegis |
Oct-07-10 08:48 PM |
#252 |
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Yeah I'm a vegetarian |
LaurenG |
Oct-08-10 04:38 AM |
#253 |
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double post. |
Behind the Aegis |
Oct-06-10 03:00 PM |
#151 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Oct-06-10 10:06 AM |
#40 |
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It's a really good thing that the homeowner wasn't a sympathetic character-- |
TwilightGardener |
Oct-06-10 09:50 AM |
#18 |
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IF it was a matter or someone who "really forgot" they would have paid when reminded. |
KittyWampus |
Oct-06-10 09:53 AM |
#22 |
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He offered to pay when he called, they could have billed, they could have |
TwilightGardener |
Oct-06-10 09:55 AM |
#28 |
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They can't place a lien..... |
Gaedel |
Oct-06-10 10:39 AM |
#84 |
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Of course they can. LOL. Anyone who works on your house can |
TwilightGardener |
Oct-06-10 10:41 AM |
#87 |
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You really don't know anything about the law. Don't keep |
COLGATE4 |
Oct-06-10 03:00 PM |
#152 |
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Wrong |
JustAmused |
Oct-06-10 05:09 PM |
#175 |
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We've been over this before. There as no basis to sue, or to |
COLGATE4 |
Oct-06-10 02:59 PM |
#149 |
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I agree....and I believe it was wrong |
pipi_k |
Oct-06-10 10:05 AM |
# |
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The same family hadn't paid the bill for a previous call. |
Mimosa |
Oct-06-10 06:04 PM |
#183 |
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LOL |
catbyte |
Oct-06-10 09:53 AM |
#23 |
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+++ |
RaleighNCDUer |
Oct-06-10 10:17 AM |
#56 |
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And it's nearly always possible to make someone unsympathetic |
Gormy Cuss |
Oct-06-10 10:19 AM |
#63 |
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Yes, and it's a good thing that the house wasn't an orphanage |
COLGATE4 |
Oct-06-10 02:57 PM |
#146 |
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Re: the homeowner |
SOS |
Oct-06-10 07:05 PM |
#207 |
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Agree completely. |
TwilightGardener |
Oct-06-10 10:04 PM |
#225 |
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A nation in which people let each others' homes burn down |
notesdev |
Oct-06-10 09:50 AM |
#20 |
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The mean-spiritedness around here is stunning. |
catbyte |
Oct-06-10 09:56 AM |
#30 |
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Sadly I've seen too much of it here |
notesdev |
Oct-06-10 10:02 AM |
#34 |
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If you need a helping hand to get back on your feet, or a shoulder, I'm there |
Confusious |
Oct-06-10 07:40 PM |
#215 |
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+1... |
SidDithers |
Oct-06-10 10:19 AM |
#65 |
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a county allowed to gut the taxed base city FD dept is pretty damn sad too. nt |
seabeyond |
Oct-06-10 10:40 AM |
#86 |
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What kind of pet owner makes no attempt to rescue his animals? |
theHandpuppet |
Oct-06-10 06:31 PM |
#191 |
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The fire dept exists to put out fires, not to make a profit for the city. |
baldguy |
Oct-06-10 09:54 AM |
#26 |
| -
Okay, so how would go about doing the budgeting for this city |
WolverineDG |
Oct-06-10 10:22 AM |
#67 |
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You've fallen into the libertarian failure trap. |
baldguy |
Oct-06-10 12:47 PM |
#112 |
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Obion County didn't 'eliminate' fire protection services. It has never had any fire protection |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-06-10 01:19 PM |
#118 |
| -
It's still the county's responsibility. |
baldguy |
Oct-06-10 01:32 PM |
#122 |
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yes, everyone keeps saying they "should" do it. but they've repeatedly chosen *not* to. |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-06-10 02:42 PM |
#141 |
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The courts. |
baldguy |
Oct-06-10 03:39 PM |
#162 |
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The "city" |
SOS |
Oct-06-10 08:07 PM |
#219 |
| -
Wrong |
JustAmused |
Oct-06-10 05:16 PM |
#177 |
| -
Yes, they should have budgeted for it |
PVnRT |
Oct-06-10 02:40 PM |
#138 |
| -
And the guy shouldn't have lost his home to uphold that misguided libertarian ideal. |
baldguy |
Oct-06-10 02:57 PM |
#147 |
| -
the libertarian ideal is the one held by the county, not the city |
fishwax |
Oct-06-10 04:40 PM |
#169 |
| -
Apparently, spreading the cost over all those who are covered is a libertarian idea |
WolverineDG |
Oct-06-10 02:59 PM |
#150 |
| -
so reality is a "libertarian trap?" |
WolverineDG |
Oct-06-10 02:57 PM |
#145 |
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It's the "you don't agree with me, so you must be a libertarian" trap |
Confusious |
Oct-06-10 07:49 PM |
#217 |
| -
Oh, you noticed that too, huh? |
WolverineDG |
Oct-06-10 08:05 PM |
#218 |
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Yes, the one where the poor pay for the rich. |
Confusious |
Oct-06-10 07:47 PM |
#216 |
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"Everyonee deserves fire protection..." |
baldguy |
Oct-06-10 10:01 PM |
#224 |
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You don't read. Just react. |
Confusious |
Oct-07-10 03:05 AM |
#242 |
| -
huh? |
Sheepshank |
Oct-06-10 05:55 PM |
#180 |
| -
Reaganism is alive and well in this age of hope. n/t |
Catherina |
Oct-06-10 09:55 AM |
#29 |
| -
Still sticking up for the heartless killers |
HughMoran |
Oct-06-10 10:05 AM |
#38 |
| -
I believe the OP is sticking up for the fire department |
whistler162 |
Oct-06-10 10:07 AM |
#41 |
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OK |
HughMoran |
Oct-06-10 10:09 AM |
#44 |
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Are you sure the fire department would be able to save the animals? |
itsrobert |
Oct-06-10 10:15 AM |
#52 |
| -
Killers? You mean the homeownner who let his home burn down? |
itsrobert |
Oct-06-10 10:11 AM |
#47 |
| -
reminds me of the parable |
whistler162 |
Oct-06-10 10:06 AM |
#39 |
| -
DIsgusting justification for killing |
HughMoran |
Oct-06-10 10:08 AM |
#42 |
| -
Agreed. |
whathehell |
Oct-06-10 02:07 PM |
#130 |
| -
(OT) Please ... |
LiberalAndProud |
Oct-07-10 12:50 AM |
#240 |
| -
It reminds me of "The Little Red Hen" |
Romulox |
Oct-06-10 10:14 AM |
#50 |
| -
I've heard that one before, and it's true |
pipi_k |
Oct-06-10 10:17 AM |
#55 |
| -
Difference is, when the FD showed up, he didn't send them away. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Oct-06-10 10:23 AM |
#69 |
| -
+1000 |
baldguy |
Oct-06-10 01:01 PM |
#115 |
| -
Then don't ever blame people who walk past someone in distress |
NYC Liberal |
Oct-06-10 10:09 AM |
#46 |
| -
+1000 - Maybe we can get the Phelps family to protest around the smoldering ruins! |
Maru Kitteh |
Oct-06-10 11:04 AM |
#99 |
| -
Regardless... |
SidDithers |
Oct-06-10 10:15 AM |
#51 |
| -
And the county would crumple it up and throw the bill in the garbage. |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Oct-06-10 11:23 AM |
#103 |
| -
No one should have to pay the fee. |
Kalyke |
Oct-06-10 10:16 AM |
#53 |
| -
Anybody who can afford it should choose to pay: it's the responsible thing to do. |
Mimosa |
Oct-06-10 10:17 AM |
#57 |
| -
so let the freakin house burn is what you are saying? |
SargeUNN |
Oct-06-10 10:23 AM |
#70 |
| -
This is the system that the county chose |
left is right |
Oct-06-10 10:45 AM |
#92 |
| -
OK then you think slavery should be brought back? |
SargeUNN |
Oct-06-10 11:02 AM |
#98 |
| -
slavery is unconstitutional. |
KittyWampus |
Oct-06-10 11:22 AM |
#102 |
| -
What a stupid thing to even suggest |
left is right |
Oct-06-10 11:37 AM |
#107 |
| -
I don't believe that this is a 'punishment'. |
LiberalAndProud |
Oct-07-10 01:00 AM |
#241 |
| -
Cuts to the heart of the social responsibility vs. personal responsibility dilemma. |
wtmusic |
Oct-06-10 10:29 AM |
#77 |
| -
Well take a look up-thread and find a bunch who think |
LaurenG |
Oct-06-10 10:37 AM |
#83 |
| -
Then the fire department goes ahead and puts out the fire, |
MadHound |
Oct-06-10 10:34 AM |
#80 |
| -
Sensible solution, but it still should be tax, not fees |
catbyte |
Oct-06-10 10:39 AM |
#85 |
| -
Yeah, it should be tax based, |
MadHound |
Oct-06-10 10:43 AM |
#90 |
| -
Yeah, apparently he was cheap, mean, and stupid. But, maybe he was broke and needed... |
TreasonousBastard |
Oct-06-10 10:34 AM |
#82 |
| -
You have lost your humanity. The FEE was the CRIME. |
grahamhgreen |
Oct-06-10 10:42 AM |
#88 |
| -
That's completely irrelevant. The duty to extend help is not contingent on payment. |
TexasObserver |
Oct-06-10 10:46 AM |
#93 |
| -
Why not put a Mechanics Lien on the place. |
Throckmorton |
Oct-06-10 10:47 AM |
#94 |
| -
Not a bad idea, but IMO in many cases |
wtmusic |
Oct-06-10 10:55 AM |
#97 |
| -
The FD still should have put out the fire and saved the house |
slackmaster |
Oct-06-10 10:50 AM |
#95 |
| -
Spot on! |
Rex |
Oct-06-10 11:20 PM |
#232 |
| -
I have two sisters |
mstinamotorcity |
Oct-06-10 11:18 AM |
#100 |
| -
+1 nt |
wtmusic |
Oct-06-10 11:26 AM |
#104 |
| -
Who cares? This whole fiasco resulted in a complete breakdown in faith for public safety. |
phleshdef |
Oct-06-10 11:22 AM |
#101 |
| -
Then put out the fire and BILL HIM for the cost of handling it |
LynneSin |
Oct-06-10 11:40 AM |
#108 |
| -
And when he tells you to stick the bill, then what??? |
COLGATE4 |
Oct-06-10 03:09 PM |
#157 |
| -
Bill Collectors |
LynneSin |
Oct-06-10 03:18 PM |
#161 |
| -
As a FireFighter, |
bvar22 |
Oct-06-10 12:29 PM |
#110 |
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+ 1,000,000,000 |
LaurenG |
Oct-06-10 12:53 PM |
#113 |
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My father was a volunteer firefighter & EMT for 30 yrs. |
baldguy |
Oct-06-10 01:18 PM |
#117 |
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A big cyber hug to you! |
PA Democrat |
Oct-06-10 01:21 PM |
#119 |
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Yup I agree totally, they should have put the fire out regardless. |
Ganja Ninja |
Oct-06-10 01:49 PM |
#126 |
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you speak in harmony with the firefighters |
Bluerthanblue |
Oct-06-10 01:53 PM |
#129 |
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You are a good person. |
Lucian |
Oct-06-10 03:02 PM |
#154 |
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+infinity |
HughMoran |
Oct-06-10 05:08 PM |
#173 |
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Wish I could rec. a post! |
bullwinkle428 |
Oct-06-10 08:26 PM |
#221 |
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Amen, brother! |
Swamp Rat |
Oct-06-10 11:31 PM |
#233 |
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I note the OP avoided your answer like the plague. |
Forkboy |
Oct-06-10 11:56 PM |
#237 |
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Why didn't the firemen put out the fire and then slap a lien on the homeowners? |
Tikki |
Oct-06-10 01:51 PM |
#128 |
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two different states. i think that has something to do with it. |
seabeyond |
Oct-06-10 02:31 PM |
#135 |
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What are their odds of ever recovering anything? |
Lance_Boyle |
Oct-06-10 02:32 PM |
#136 |
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So the fuck what? |
JuniperLea |
Oct-06-10 02:42 PM |
#140 |
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It's not putting money above people. It;'s putting money above |
COLGATE4 |
Oct-06-10 03:11 PM |
#159 |
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What about his dead pets? |
JuniperLea |
Oct-06-10 03:17 PM |
#160 |
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I had emergency medical care in April and couldn't afford to pay the bills. |
Lucian |
Oct-06-10 03:01 PM |
#153 |
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So fucking what? |
derby378 |
Oct-06-10 03:04 PM |
#156 |
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Fuck they have a lot a fires in that town - Sounds like extortionist arsonist Libertarians! |
GreenTea |
Oct-06-10 03:42 PM |
#163 |
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A totally heartless way to teach a man a lesson. |
Forkboy |
Oct-06-10 03:50 PM |
#164 |
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SO WHAT? |
Matariki |
Oct-06-10 04:21 PM |
#166 |
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I hate that this guys house was burned. |
Sheepshank |
Oct-06-10 04:50 PM |
#170 |
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How is this at all relevant? ERs don't send gunshot victims away even if the victim never paid |
BzaDem |
Oct-06-10 05:51 PM |
#179 |
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What is this? Libertarian "tough love"? |
Canuckistanian |
Oct-06-10 06:02 PM |
#181 |
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Thirty plus years of propaganda |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-06-10 06:11 PM |
#187 |
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All the twisting , turning and convoluted rationalizations suggest some form of collective insanity |
depakid |
Oct-06-10 07:13 PM |
#208 |
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Peel the rationalization |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-06-10 10:19 PM |
#226 |
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I've been trying to look at it like one of Kohlberg's dllemmas |
depakid |
Oct-06-10 10:36 PM |
#228 |
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I have not read them in decades.... |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-06-10 10:46 PM |
#229 |
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Yep- and let's not forget the Calvinist influence |
depakid |
Oct-06-10 11:05 PM |
#230 |
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Hey we ALSO got convicts |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-06-10 11:18 PM |
#231 |
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Georgia got both convicts AND Calvinists! |
depakid |
Oct-06-10 11:40 PM |
#234 |
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Or German |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-06-10 11:46 PM |
#236 |
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Different values |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-06-10 06:10 PM |
#185 |
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Where did the money come from to purchase fire trucks and a fire house? |
B Calm |
Oct-06-10 06:11 PM |
#186 |
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It could EASILY come from charging non-subscribers for it if they have a fire. |
BzaDem |
Oct-06-10 06:13 PM |
#188 |
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My guess is the cost of the fire trucks and fire houses were paid for |
B Calm |
Oct-06-10 06:21 PM |
#189 |
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it is paid by the city citizens who actually are taxed for their FD. nt |
seabeyond |
Oct-06-10 06:36 PM |
#193 |
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Our rural volunteer fire department receives FEDERAL Funds... |
bvar22 |
Oct-06-10 08:25 PM |
#220 |
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actually from the work up i found on odion county they dont, becuase they did not develop their VFD |
seabeyond |
Oct-06-10 08:41 PM |
#223 |
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as on another thread, they did and it wasnt paid. another state and they had no recourse |
seabeyond |
Oct-06-10 06:36 PM |
#192 |
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You go to court and sue, just like a hospital would for someone who could afford it but doesn't pay. |
BzaDem |
Oct-06-10 06:47 PM |
#198 |
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a town of 2500 people poorer than county. not a lot of money. hire lwayers and court cost to TRY |
seabeyond |
Oct-06-10 06:49 PM |
#200 |
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And so the house deserved to burn... |
depakid |
Oct-06-10 06:29 PM |
#190 |
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solution? city FD go bankrupt? significantly raise city taxes to cover county? nt |
seabeyond |
Oct-06-10 06:37 PM |
#194 |
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Solution: charge non-subscribers the full cost of their service, just like ERs do. |
BzaDem |
Oct-06-10 06:45 PM |
#197 |
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3rd time to you.... they tried. they dont get payment. another state and dont have same recourse |
seabeyond |
Oct-06-10 06:47 PM |
#199 |
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When you explain how this is at all different than hospitals who collect from ER victims |
BzaDem |
Oct-06-10 06:50 PM |
# |
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. |
BzaDem |
Oct-06-10 07:37 PM |
#214 |
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Ever heard of a lien? |
depakid |
Oct-06-10 06:50 PM |
#201 |
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Naw, if you read all of this, you'll realize that West Bumblefuck TN/KY |
TwilightGardener |
Oct-06-10 06:56 PM |
#204 |
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They may not even need to go to court to attach a lien to the property |
depakid |
Oct-06-10 07:04 PM |
#206 |
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can one state put a lein on anothr property in another state? nt |
seabeyond |
Oct-06-10 07:20 PM |
#209 |
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If the owner owes money- or if the Fire Dept files a mechanic's lien for its work on the property |
depakid |
Oct-06-10 07:37 PM |
#213 |
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thanks for this. nt |
seabeyond |
Oct-06-10 08:39 PM |
#222 |
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this town is 2500 people. your answeris to hire lawyers and incur court costs to try and get |
seabeyond |
Oct-06-10 07:21 PM |
#210 |
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My town of about 1000 had a city attorney. I would guess most municipalities |
TwilightGardener |
Oct-06-10 07:32 PM |
#211 |
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YES. That is EXACTLY the answer. n/t |
BzaDem |
Oct-06-10 07:37 PM |
#212 |
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It's bizarre to see so many people defending the libertarian policies of the county, by |
Marr |
Oct-06-10 06:51 PM |
#202 |
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Let's tax rich people to pay for firefighting! n/t |
Chemical Bill |
Oct-06-10 06:56 PM |
#205 |
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Man there is a lot of shit flying on this |
rufus dog |
Oct-07-10 12:29 AM |
#238 |
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What happens if he can't afford the fee? |
6000eliot |
Oct-07-10 12:35 AM |
#239 |
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Bullshit is the right word for you. NO ONE should have to pay extra |
southernyankeebelle |
Oct-07-10 09:07 AM |
#244 |
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LOL. They didn't pay for it through taxes though. Did you miss about a gazillion posts on this? |
Romulox |
Oct-07-10 09:09 AM |
#246 |
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you are damn right, they dont have to pay EXTRA thru taxes or anything else. they pay NOTHING |
seabeyond |
Oct-07-10 09:11 AM |
#247 |
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