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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 07:53 PM
Response to Reply #74
78. Hey we end up at the same point
We know how the country got to this point, this is the Republican way.
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  -So, it is better to 'make a statement' then to try and save a burning building? Rex  Oct-05-10 03:49 PM   #0 
  - Its the choice the county made and....  Egnever   Oct-05-10 03:53 PM   #1 
  - So then it is okay to let the house burn down then.  Rex   Oct-05-10 03:57 PM   #4 
  - Actions have consequences  Egnever   Oct-05-10 04:27 PM   #25 
  - Okay then why wouldn't the fire department put out the fire and thenn  MadMaddie   Oct-05-10 04:06 PM   #11 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-05-10 04:15 PM   #19 
     - Sorry, I don't buy that example  MadMaddie   Oct-05-10 06:07 PM   #69 
     - I am really upset about this. I know the  asjr   Oct-05-10 04:21 PM   #23 
     - they came because  Egnever   Oct-05-10 04:32 PM   #28 
     - Because they have been doing that for years and  Egnever   Oct-05-10 04:30 PM   #27 
     - They've been trying to collect from him for 3 years  thelordofhell   Oct-05-10 05:04 PM   #63 
     - Why can't the county provide fire service for all county residents? Instead of doing that,  struggle4progress   Oct-05-10 09:19 PM   #75 
  - I think that its not quite as easy as that.  mediaman007   Oct-05-10 03:56 PM   #2 
  - If a fire fighter walked up to me and said he would save my house  Rex   Oct-05-10 03:59 PM   #6 
     - Who buys the fire truck? Who pays for the safety suits?  mediaman007   Oct-05-10 04:10 PM   #13 
        - This is true but do you expect me to believe that $75 per  MadMaddie   Oct-05-10 06:08 PM   #70 
           - A lot of people not paying $75 a year would have an effect.  mediaman007   Oct-05-10 07:37 PM   #74 
              - Hey we end up at the same point  MadMaddie   Oct-06-10 07:53 PM   #78 
  - people are also implying it was a good thing because it  jonnyblitz   Oct-05-10 03:56 PM   #3 
  - That guy should be kissing the fire department's ass.  JVS   Oct-05-10 03:58 PM   #5 
  - Time shouldn't have anything to do with it nor should the individual.  Rex   Oct-05-10 04:00 PM   #7 
  - Yea! He got what he deserved!  Juneboarder   Oct-05-10 04:10 PM   #14 
     - "civil servant" does not make you a servant to those who are not a civis  JVS   Oct-05-10 04:14 PM   #18 
     - Oh really?  Juneboarder   Oct-05-10 04:19 PM   #21 
        - It's not a question of him being a human being, it's a matter of him not being a citizen...  JVS   Oct-05-10 04:22 PM   #24 
           - Really?  Juneboarder   Oct-05-10 04:32 PM   #29 
              - How many times are those firemen supposed to save his house without any payment from him?  JVS   Oct-05-10 04:38 PM   #31 
                 - I say they help every time.  Juneboarder   Oct-05-10 04:42 PM   #37 
                    - Then you go do it. Give up your life and go be your brother's keeper.  JVS   Oct-05-10 04:42 PM   #39 
                       - JVS... your colors truly show  Juneboarder   Oct-05-10 04:50 PM   #50 
                       - So you have no problem telling a town to give free service to a county, but it's not for you?  JVS   Oct-05-10 04:52 PM   #51 
                          - Thanks for putting words in my mouth, but I never said anything about free services.  Juneboarder   Oct-05-10 04:54 PM   #53 
                             - This whole discussion is about free services.  JVS   Oct-05-10 04:56 PM   #55 
                                - Oh really I missed that...  Juneboarder   Oct-05-10 05:02 PM   #61 
                       - the fucking firefighters got paid regardless of whether they doused this fire or not..  frylock   Oct-05-10 06:23 PM   #71 
                          - I'm not talking about the wages of the firefighters, I'm talking about the funding of the entire...  JVS   Oct-05-10 06:24 PM   #72 
     - They have no legal right to bill him or put a lien on his property.  COLGATE4   Oct-05-10 04:40 PM   #33 
        - Oh no?  Juneboarder   Oct-05-10 04:56 PM   #54 
  - So it's better to make poor black people pay for what rich white people get than to make rich white  jobycom   Oct-05-10 04:01 PM   #8 
  - Not the same at all, this is a question of doing what is right when you can  Rex   Oct-05-10 04:04 PM   #9 
     - Exactly. Like, not setting a fire during a burn ban when you have no fire department to save you.  jobycom   Oct-05-10 04:09 PM   #12 
  - So they save the house that didn't pay the assessment  gratuitous   Oct-05-10 04:05 PM   #10 
  - But they don't get the service for free, potentially.  Zax2me   Oct-05-10 04:27 PM   #26 
     - And if they don't pay?  gratuitous   Oct-05-10 04:41 PM   #35 
  - His insurance company will make him whole.  DURHAM D   Oct-05-10 04:11 PM   #15 
  - How do you know he has insurance?  Juneboarder   Oct-05-10 04:12 PM   #17 
     - He said so in the interview. nt  DURHAM D   Oct-05-10 04:20 PM   #22 
        - Unless he "forgot" to pay for that too.  thelordofhell   Oct-05-10 05:12 PM   #66 
  - City employees follow city policy. Citty policy is set by city government, accountable to  struggle4progress   Oct-05-10 04:11 PM   #16 
  - So better to make the fire depart keep working for free and going bankrupt  Pithlet   Oct-05-10 04:16 PM   #20 
  - It's not cruel; it's IN-HUMANE. nt  Juneboarder   Oct-05-10 04:34 PM   #30 
  - Okay, so if the taxphobes leach off my communities serves and we lose them.  Pithlet   Oct-05-10 04:40 PM   #34 
     - Who said anything about free services?  Juneboarder   Oct-05-10 04:47 PM   #45 
        - Basically, anyone who insists that there's a moral obligation to fight fires  Pithlet   Oct-05-10 04:49 PM   #49 
           - In your example, a fire company is a business.  Juneboarder   Oct-05-10 04:53 PM   #52 
              - They've tried billing them. The county members weren't paying their bills.  Pithlet   Oct-05-10 04:57 PM   #56 
              - Court.  Juneboarder   Oct-05-10 05:01 PM   #59 
                 - Court? Okay. Court costs time and money. And then you have to chase them for the judgment.  Pithlet   Oct-05-10 05:04 PM   #64 
                    - Small Claims  Juneboarder   Oct-05-10 06:39 PM   #73 
              - They've tried billing them. The county members weren't paying their bills.  Pithlet   Oct-05-10 04:57 PM   #57 
  - The idea is to wrap the firefighting costs  rbixby   Oct-05-10 04:40 PM   #32 
  - Yes! Exactly. But the county doesn't want to do that.  Pithlet   Oct-05-10 04:42 PM   #38 
  - I guess the city should play hardball then  rbixby   Oct-06-10 09:51 AM   #77 
  - That's the answer.  Zax2me   Oct-05-10 04:45 PM   #44 
  - Fines...!  Zax2me   Oct-05-10 04:42 PM   #36 
  - The city doesn't have the authority.  Pithlet   Oct-05-10 04:43 PM   #40 
  - Well, that sucks!  Zax2me   Oct-05-10 05:04 PM   #62 
     - Yes. But this is what happens when you have taxphobe yahoos vote in Repubs.  Pithlet   Oct-05-10 05:09 PM   #65 
  - You know what spreads better than news of a few fines (which can't be enforced anyway)?  JVS   Oct-05-10 04:45 PM   #43 
     - As harsh as that sounds, it basically came down to that.  Pithlet   Oct-05-10 04:47 PM   #46 
     - True! but...  Zax2me   Oct-05-10 04:49 PM   #48 
  - You're wasting your breath,. It's much more fun to play the "if I were there  COLGATE4   Oct-05-10 04:43 PM   #41 
     - I know and it hurts my heart.  Pithlet   Oct-05-10 04:44 PM   #42 
  - Isnt that what many here say?  Uzybone   Oct-05-10 04:48 PM   #47 
  - Didn't the fire dept respond to the fire, then did nothing once it got there?  RC   Oct-05-10 05:00 PM   #58 
  - They responded to keep the neighbors safe  thelordofhell   Oct-05-10 05:20 PM   #67 
  - Will you pay your neighbors property taxes  stray cat   Oct-05-10 05:02 PM   #60 
  - yeah that's the point.  elehhhhna   Oct-05-10 05:20 PM   #68 
  - Letting it burn was immoral and very, very stupid.  TexasObserver   Oct-05-10 09:34 PM   #76 
  - Right is right. Talking about money makes you look like a whore. n/t  leeroysphitz   Oct-06-10 07:59 PM   #79 

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