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| 77. The house fire responses confused me as well. |
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But I would not question or weigh this on DU members in a negative way. Like all disagreements here, everything is filtered through cyberspace and things are written that would likely be delivered differently were all parties sitting face to face. I'm not saying opposing opinions would go away but each side would be more...civil? Just not ready to question the entire progressive thought processes of members here over any one topic.
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| -Pardon me I am confused, is this DU? |
SargeUNN |
Oct-04-10 09:06 PM |
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While i totaly get the sentiment |
Egnever |
Oct-04-10 09:08 PM |
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This is like the HCR debate |
DJ13 |
Oct-04-10 09:19 PM |
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A city cannot tax people outside city limits. NT |
hendo |
Oct-04-10 09:57 PM |
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No, but the county can. n/t |
ingac70 |
Oct-04-10 10:05 PM |
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Well then they should. |
DURHAM D |
Oct-04-10 10:16 PM |
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Having a brain fart when paying a once a year bill does not equal |
eridani |
Oct-04-10 09:20 PM |
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We protect people from their dumb choices all the time. |
EFerrari |
Oct-04-10 09:31 PM |
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I think as a species, we're |
WeekendWarrior |
Oct-04-10 10:55 PM |
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LOL. |
EFerrari |
Oct-04-10 10:58 PM |
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I don't hate the man from TN |
dsc |
Oct-04-10 09:08 PM |
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I agree. And it appears to me that this thread is the functional equivalent of calling somebody out |
merqz |
Oct-04-10 09:10 PM |
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Who is the OP calling out? The OP is providing one side just as the other threads provided |
rhett o rick |
Oct-04-10 09:41 PM |
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Ooops, his baby died because he forgot to pay $75 tax. |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 09:47 PM |
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I feel bad for him |
dsc |
Oct-04-10 09:49 PM |
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several pets died |
Tunkamerica |
Oct-04-10 09:58 PM |
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His dogs and a cat were effectively murdered by the fire dept. |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 10:13 PM |
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this is not Liberal Underground. This is Democratic Underground. |
provis99 |
Oct-04-10 09:09 PM |
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It wasn't "the" fire department, it was an abused neighboring city fire department |
divideandconquer |
Oct-04-10 09:19 PM |
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And had they saved that house, they would have had a customer, |
EFerrari |
Oct-04-10 09:34 PM |
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but, if they put out the fire, no one would pay the $75 fee. NT |
hendo |
Oct-04-10 09:58 PM |
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Nonsense. Most people would send in the money just like in any group |
EFerrari |
Oct-04-10 10:00 PM |
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What about tacking a $500 bill afterward? Wouldn't that work? |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Oct-04-10 11:41 PM |
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Yep, I'm surprised they didn't have a volunteer FD. That's what we had when |
Better Today |
Oct-04-10 09:37 PM |
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So you concur with the fire dept watching the home burn down? If so, very cold man. nm |
rhett o rick |
Oct-04-10 09:42 PM |
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It sure as Hell is not Ayn Rand Libertarian Underground. |
Yeshuah Ben Joseph |
Oct-04-10 09:37 PM |
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Not so sure. |
rhett o rick |
Oct-04-10 09:45 PM |
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Sad but true. |
Yeshuah Ben Joseph |
Oct-04-10 09:46 PM |
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What new thread? Link? nm |
rhett o rick |
Oct-04-10 09:57 PM |
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Ask and ye shall recieve |
Yeshuah Ben Joseph |
Oct-04-10 10:54 PM |
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"There number is negligible and they are stupid" - Eisenhower |
Greyhound |
Oct-04-10 10:00 PM |
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NO, Libertarian would be if we supported that system. We don't. BUT- since that is the system |
KittyWampus |
Oct-04-10 11:13 PM |
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Exactly |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 10:52 PM |
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Here is my defination I accept and I think it defines real Democrats |
SargeUNN |
Oct-04-10 09:12 PM |
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That's why democrats believe that essential services should |
marybourg |
Oct-04-10 09:32 PM |
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Who on DU was saying that they had no sympathy for the person who lost his house? |
bluestateguy |
Oct-04-10 09:12 PM |
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Check this thread |
dflprincess |
Oct-04-10 09:16 PM |
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they didn't recieve tax money from him |
dsc |
Oct-04-10 09:20 PM |
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I have no children, but I have no problem with paying taxes for public schools |
dflprincess |
Oct-04-10 09:23 PM |
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from what I have read |
dsc |
Oct-04-10 09:33 PM |
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I do not have a link |
Angry Dragon |
Oct-04-10 09:34 PM |
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Am I my brother's keeper? |
Dyedinthewoolliberal |
Oct-04-10 09:40 PM |
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I have absolutely no problem with my taxes going towards putting out house fires. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-04-10 09:40 PM |
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No need for it to happen. The fire department shows up, puts out the fire, and collects $75 |
eridani |
Oct-04-10 09:41 PM |
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then no one would ever pay the $75 |
dsc |
Oct-04-10 09:44 PM |
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That's what they did before, charge $500 |
tammywammy |
Oct-04-10 09:53 PM |
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"The city had no ability to force collections." That is wrong. Fix that by letting houses burn down. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Oct-04-10 11:42 PM |
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EXACTLY! On Olbermann, the man said he basically told them "I'll pay you WHATEVER YOU |
Grown2Hate |
Oct-04-10 09:48 PM |
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As would anyone who didn't pay the fee but found their house on fire. |
KittyWampus |
Oct-04-10 11:15 PM |
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...and their dog and cats being burned alive. |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 11:21 PM |
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Man, I've never heard a supposed liberal sound so heartless in my entire life |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 09:50 PM |
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a fire department can't survive without money |
dsc |
Oct-04-10 09:53 PM |
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OMG. Inhuman. Vile. Despicable. Disgusting. Heartless. Inhuman. |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 09:56 PM |
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false premise much? |
DURHAM D |
Oct-04-10 09:13 PM |
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Watch the interview, then read the responses here. |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 09:52 PM |
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Yes! Why bash the man or the fire fighters, when we can bash DUers! |
leftstreet |
Oct-04-10 09:13 PM |
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. . . |
EFerrari |
Oct-04-10 09:17 PM |
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Nice call-out thread. |
apocalypsehow |
Oct-04-10 09:13 PM |
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so what |
Pisces |
Oct-04-10 09:34 PM |
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The ones making those remarks must be rich repubs slumming, because |
valerief |
Oct-04-10 09:15 PM |
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They just understand what happens |
hendo |
Oct-04-10 09:25 PM |
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Why isn't it covered in taxes? You know, taxes for the common good. That's the failure. |
valerief |
Oct-04-10 09:30 PM |
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Because the city has no authority to levy taxes on people in the surrounding county. |
JVS |
Oct-04-10 09:31 PM |
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Change the laws! How hard is it to legislate for the common good? nt |
valerief |
Oct-04-10 09:34 PM |
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The county made its decision. |
JVS |
Oct-04-10 09:38 PM |
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Obviously very. |
DURHAM D |
Oct-04-10 09:47 PM |
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A city can never tax people who live outside the city |
hendo |
Oct-04-10 09:48 PM |
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But they can present bills for services. n/t |
EFerrari |
Oct-04-10 09:54 PM |
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According to a response in the main thread |
hendo |
Oct-04-10 10:07 PM |
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That article doesn't say that. And of course they can collect. |
EFerrari |
Oct-04-10 10:11 PM |
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A county can have a county fire department with county taxes. Duh. nt |
valerief |
Oct-04-10 09:56 PM |
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Are you purposefully ignoring the primary thread? |
hendo |
Oct-04-10 10:07 PM |
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Because the county does not offer FD protection |
hendo |
Oct-04-10 09:47 PM |
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The entire premise is fucking stupid. |
eilen |
Oct-04-10 10:11 PM |
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Or you didn't have the money for one month. That ought to be a death sentence, right? |
eridani |
Oct-04-10 09:43 PM |
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Its hard to make that case 9 months too late. |
hendo |
Oct-04-10 09:55 PM |
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That's ridiculous. You don't let someone's life burn down for $75. |
EFerrari |
Oct-04-10 09:44 PM |
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Republicans do it for shits and giggles. nt |
valerief |
Oct-04-10 09:57 PM |
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No sympathy? |
flvegan |
Oct-04-10 09:15 PM |
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i have a hard time mustering up sympathy |
elana i am |
Oct-04-10 09:19 PM |
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His dogs and a cat DIED unnecessarily. Could have been a human. |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 09:53 PM |
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Agreed. I'm surprised anyone, anywhere, would support letting someone's house burn down |
Puregonzo1188 |
Oct-04-10 09:21 PM |
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the man made the decision to allow his house to burn down when he chose not to buy fire service. |
seabeyond |
Oct-04-10 09:48 PM |
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There are a lot of people on this board who appear to be doing their best to make Progressives & |
patrice |
Oct-04-10 09:28 PM |
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I got a late notice on my sewer bill this month |
eridani |
Oct-04-10 09:30 PM |
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Did the city send your sewage back? |
GoneOffShore |
Oct-04-10 09:36 PM |
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Who made you the arbiter of what's liberal and what's a reasonable position? |
Stinky The Clown |
Oct-04-10 09:32 PM |
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You agree that a liberal can support watching a house burn down - dogs and a cat dying inside? |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 10:45 PM |
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I can support a fire department doing what is necessary to keep itself solvent financially. Too bad |
KittyWampus |
Oct-04-10 10:57 PM |
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That's considered right-wing thinking |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 11:01 PM |
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NO, that's considered reality in a place that doesn't have a volunteer fire department |
KittyWampus |
Oct-04-10 11:04 PM |
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Good luck with that |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 11:08 PM |
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If someone with honest motives asks me that question, I'd give an honest answer. |
Stinky The Clown |
Oct-04-10 11:01 PM |
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lol |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 11:02 PM |
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Wow, you do not have a logical brain cell in your head! |
KansasVoter |
Oct-04-10 09:33 PM |
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Well said. |
DURHAM D |
Oct-04-10 09:52 PM |
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Enjoy the smell of burning animals much? |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 10:48 PM |
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You are not tracking well. nt |
DURHAM D |
Oct-04-10 10:54 PM |
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At least I'm a compassionate liberal (i.e. - I have a heart) |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 10:57 PM |
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Mmmm, I support death like in a 3rd world country or 19th century America |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 10:47 PM |
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He made a conscious decision not to pay his taxes. |
Swede |
Oct-04-10 09:33 PM |
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No, he forgot to send the money in. Very different n/t |
eridani |
Oct-04-10 09:39 PM |
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There's probably a lawsuit here. |
EFerrari |
Oct-04-10 09:41 PM |
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I think he would lose a lawsuit |
tammywammy |
Oct-04-10 09:51 PM |
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It's very likely that being at the scene of a fire and not intervening |
EFerrari |
Oct-04-10 09:56 PM |
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the guy mentioned that it had happened before to his boy |
mitchtv |
Oct-04-10 10:18 PM |
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I guess we should be happy that no one roasted a pig in the embers |
EFerrari |
Oct-04-10 10:20 PM |
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Yeah,he forgot. That's the ticket. |
Swede |
Oct-04-10 09:41 PM |
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I'm sure you always pay assessments that come only once a year |
eridani |
Oct-04-10 09:44 PM |
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That's why they did follow up phone calls n/t |
tammywammy |
Oct-04-10 09:52 PM |
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He was mailed a notice,then the county called all to remind |
Swede |
Oct-04-10 09:58 PM |
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I am saddened by that attitude. What ever the reason, he shouldnt of had to pay with his house, his |
rhett o rick |
Oct-04-10 09:56 PM |
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His son had a fire,he was reminded twice about the fee,so he knew. |
Swede |
Oct-04-10 10:59 PM |
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Hey Sarge. Thanks for pointing this out. |
pa28 |
Oct-04-10 09:34 PM |
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With you Sarge |
lifesbeautifulmagic |
Oct-04-10 09:39 PM |
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Damn Skippy. nt |
MrScorpio |
Oct-04-10 09:41 PM |
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I agree 1000% |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 09:45 PM |
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Yeah, I know. I was shocked by attitudes on another thread |
eilen |
Oct-04-10 10:19 PM |
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the man made his decision not to have fire service. HE made the decision. HE said NO |
seabeyond |
Oct-04-10 09:47 PM |
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Because people make stupid decisions all the time |
EFerrari |
Oct-04-10 09:52 PM |
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He called them and they refused to come |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 09:55 PM |
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Thank you. |
timber84 |
Oct-04-10 10:08 PM |
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You're not alone. |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 10:11 PM |
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did he also say that his son "forgot" to pay too. had a fire and was able to pay after? nt |
seabeyond |
Oct-04-10 11:44 PM |
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Keep making excuses for privatized libertarian "19th Century" thinking |
HughMoran |
Oct-05-10 12:06 AM |
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Did he actually say "No, I don't want fire service"? - |
lynne |
Oct-04-10 10:08 PM |
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DUers sympathy for people often rivals the Freepers. |
Forkboy |
Oct-04-10 09:52 PM |
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Thank you. |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 09:58 PM |
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Lord of the Files. |
EFerrari |
Oct-04-10 10:21 PM |
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Where's the sympathy for the FIRE DEPARTMENT? You know, the people who need equpiment |
KittyWampus |
Oct-04-10 11:00 PM |
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Why, did their equipment burn down, too? |
EFerrari |
Oct-04-10 11:01 PM |
#130 |
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The same FD that refused payment when he offered it? |
Posteritatis |
Oct-04-10 11:10 PM |
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LOL! How exactly is the Fire Dept. supposed to be funded if people only pay when their house is on |
KittyWampus |
Oct-04-10 11:11 PM |
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The house fire responses confused me as well. |
Zax2me |
Oct-04-10 09:55 PM |
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K&R. We rarely agree on anything, but this is just absurd. |
Greyhound |
Oct-04-10 10:05 PM |
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Auto-Unrec for presuming to say who belongs on DU and who does not |
slackmaster |
Oct-04-10 10:09 PM |
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So you support murdering of pets due to forgetting to pay $75 fee? |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 10:50 PM |
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The point of that article is that's what happens when government ISN'T involved. |
Zoeisright |
Oct-04-10 10:09 PM |
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They do have it ass backwards. One of them said this is what SOCIALISTS |
EFerrari |
Oct-04-10 10:13 PM |
#104 |
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If you have a problem with the posts here, either become an admin or complain to one. |
Zavulon |
Oct-04-10 10:20 PM |
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If this man was late on his health insurance premium and went to the ER - |
lynne |
Oct-04-10 10:28 PM |
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I've seen plenty of posts here about people not getting the care they needed.. |
Fumesucker |
Oct-04-10 10:49 PM |
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DU made a guess about his politics and decided that makes it okay. (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Oct-04-10 10:56 PM |
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These are the same people that argued Dr. Gates deserved to be arrested |
EFerrari |
Oct-04-10 11:03 PM |
#132 |
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Of course. And if the firefighters had let someone die |
Pithlet |
Oct-04-10 11:08 PM |
#135 |
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I wonder if there'd be an uproar if people decided the victims were Republicans. (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Oct-04-10 11:08 PM |
#137 |
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What difference does it make? The county voted. They didn't want to pay |
Pithlet |
Oct-04-10 11:17 PM |
#142 |
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I'm talking about this guy in particular, not "the county" |
Posteritatis |
Oct-04-10 11:21 PM |
#143 |
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Yes, but you responded to me, and I wasn't. |
Pithlet |
Oct-04-10 11:32 PM |
#148 |
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I'm reeling about this myself |
Canuckistanian |
Oct-04-10 10:55 PM |
#121 |
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I know--I can't believe this either. People being glib about "choices" and "bad decisions". |
TwilightGardener |
Oct-04-10 11:06 PM |
#134 |
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It's mind-numbing in it's cold-heartedness |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 11:25 PM |
#146 |
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Sadly, the party and this webs site.. |
girl gone mad |
Oct-04-10 11:24 PM |
#145 |
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Many of the so-called progressive voices as well |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 11:27 PM |
#147 |
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The consumer abuse/protection threads can be equally revealing |
depakid |
Oct-04-10 11:37 PM |
#149 |
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Both sides of the coin |
DonCoquixote |
Oct-04-10 11:37 PM |
#150 |
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Yes, we now have asterisk progressives. |
TexasObserver |
Oct-04-10 11:38 PM |
#151 |
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What's wrong? |
BlueCheese |
Oct-04-10 11:48 PM |
#155 |
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lol |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 11:53 PM |
#156 |
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We're locking this |
lazarus |
Oct-05-10 12:11 AM |
#158 |
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