rhett o rick
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Mon Oct-04-10 09:45 PM
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Look at all the posters that favored the fire dept letting the house burn down. That's Libertarian in my book.
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| -Pardon me I am confused, is this DU? |
SargeUNN |
Oct-04-10 09:06 PM |
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While i totaly get the sentiment |
Egnever |
Oct-04-10 09:08 PM |
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This is like the HCR debate |
DJ13 |
Oct-04-10 09:19 PM |
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A city cannot tax people outside city limits. NT |
hendo |
Oct-04-10 09:57 PM |
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No, but the county can. n/t |
ingac70 |
Oct-04-10 10:05 PM |
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Well then they should. |
DURHAM D |
Oct-04-10 10:16 PM |
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Having a brain fart when paying a once a year bill does not equal |
eridani |
Oct-04-10 09:20 PM |
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We protect people from their dumb choices all the time. |
EFerrari |
Oct-04-10 09:31 PM |
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I think as a species, we're |
WeekendWarrior |
Oct-04-10 10:55 PM |
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LOL. |
EFerrari |
Oct-04-10 10:58 PM |
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I don't hate the man from TN |
dsc |
Oct-04-10 09:08 PM |
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I agree. And it appears to me that this thread is the functional equivalent of calling somebody out |
merqz |
Oct-04-10 09:10 PM |
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Who is the OP calling out? The OP is providing one side just as the other threads provided |
rhett o rick |
Oct-04-10 09:41 PM |
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Ooops, his baby died because he forgot to pay $75 tax. |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 09:47 PM |
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I feel bad for him |
dsc |
Oct-04-10 09:49 PM |
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several pets died |
Tunkamerica |
Oct-04-10 09:58 PM |
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His dogs and a cat were effectively murdered by the fire dept. |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 10:13 PM |
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this is not Liberal Underground. This is Democratic Underground. |
provis99 |
Oct-04-10 09:09 PM |
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It wasn't "the" fire department, it was an abused neighboring city fire department |
divideandconquer |
Oct-04-10 09:19 PM |
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And had they saved that house, they would have had a customer, |
EFerrari |
Oct-04-10 09:34 PM |
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but, if they put out the fire, no one would pay the $75 fee. NT |
hendo |
Oct-04-10 09:58 PM |
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Nonsense. Most people would send in the money just like in any group |
EFerrari |
Oct-04-10 10:00 PM |
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What about tacking a $500 bill afterward? Wouldn't that work? |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Oct-04-10 11:41 PM |
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Yep, I'm surprised they didn't have a volunteer FD. That's what we had when |
Better Today |
Oct-04-10 09:37 PM |
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So you concur with the fire dept watching the home burn down? If so, very cold man. nm |
rhett o rick |
Oct-04-10 09:42 PM |
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It sure as Hell is not Ayn Rand Libertarian Underground. |
Yeshuah Ben Joseph |
Oct-04-10 09:37 PM |
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Not so sure. |
rhett o rick |
Oct-04-10 09:45 PM |
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Sad but true. |
Yeshuah Ben Joseph |
Oct-04-10 09:46 PM |
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What new thread? Link? nm |
rhett o rick |
Oct-04-10 09:57 PM |
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Ask and ye shall recieve |
Yeshuah Ben Joseph |
Oct-04-10 10:54 PM |
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"There number is negligible and they are stupid" - Eisenhower |
Greyhound |
Oct-04-10 10:00 PM |
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NO, Libertarian would be if we supported that system. We don't. BUT- since that is the system |
KittyWampus |
Oct-04-10 11:13 PM |
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Exactly |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 10:52 PM |
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Here is my defination I accept and I think it defines real Democrats |
SargeUNN |
Oct-04-10 09:12 PM |
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That's why democrats believe that essential services should |
marybourg |
Oct-04-10 09:32 PM |
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Who on DU was saying that they had no sympathy for the person who lost his house? |
bluestateguy |
Oct-04-10 09:12 PM |
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Check this thread |
dflprincess |
Oct-04-10 09:16 PM |
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they didn't recieve tax money from him |
dsc |
Oct-04-10 09:20 PM |
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I have no children, but I have no problem with paying taxes for public schools |
dflprincess |
Oct-04-10 09:23 PM |
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from what I have read |
dsc |
Oct-04-10 09:33 PM |
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I do not have a link |
Angry Dragon |
Oct-04-10 09:34 PM |
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Am I my brother's keeper? |
Dyedinthewoolliberal |
Oct-04-10 09:40 PM |
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I have absolutely no problem with my taxes going towards putting out house fires. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Oct-04-10 09:40 PM |
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No need for it to happen. The fire department shows up, puts out the fire, and collects $75 |
eridani |
Oct-04-10 09:41 PM |
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then no one would ever pay the $75 |
dsc |
Oct-04-10 09:44 PM |
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That's what they did before, charge $500 |
tammywammy |
Oct-04-10 09:53 PM |
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"The city had no ability to force collections." That is wrong. Fix that by letting houses burn down. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Oct-04-10 11:42 PM |
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EXACTLY! On Olbermann, the man said he basically told them "I'll pay you WHATEVER YOU |
Grown2Hate |
Oct-04-10 09:48 PM |
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As would anyone who didn't pay the fee but found their house on fire. |
KittyWampus |
Oct-04-10 11:15 PM |
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...and their dog and cats being burned alive. |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 11:21 PM |
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Man, I've never heard a supposed liberal sound so heartless in my entire life |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 09:50 PM |
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a fire department can't survive without money |
dsc |
Oct-04-10 09:53 PM |
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OMG. Inhuman. Vile. Despicable. Disgusting. Heartless. Inhuman. |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 09:56 PM |
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false premise much? |
DURHAM D |
Oct-04-10 09:13 PM |
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Watch the interview, then read the responses here. |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 09:52 PM |
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Yes! Why bash the man or the fire fighters, when we can bash DUers! |
leftstreet |
Oct-04-10 09:13 PM |
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. . . |
EFerrari |
Oct-04-10 09:17 PM |
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Nice call-out thread. |
apocalypsehow |
Oct-04-10 09:13 PM |
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so what |
Pisces |
Oct-04-10 09:34 PM |
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The ones making those remarks must be rich repubs slumming, because |
valerief |
Oct-04-10 09:15 PM |
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They just understand what happens |
hendo |
Oct-04-10 09:25 PM |
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Why isn't it covered in taxes? You know, taxes for the common good. That's the failure. |
valerief |
Oct-04-10 09:30 PM |
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Because the city has no authority to levy taxes on people in the surrounding county. |
JVS |
Oct-04-10 09:31 PM |
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Change the laws! How hard is it to legislate for the common good? nt |
valerief |
Oct-04-10 09:34 PM |
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The county made its decision. |
JVS |
Oct-04-10 09:38 PM |
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Obviously very. |
DURHAM D |
Oct-04-10 09:47 PM |
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A city can never tax people who live outside the city |
hendo |
Oct-04-10 09:48 PM |
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But they can present bills for services. n/t |
EFerrari |
Oct-04-10 09:54 PM |
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According to a response in the main thread |
hendo |
Oct-04-10 10:07 PM |
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That article doesn't say that. And of course they can collect. |
EFerrari |
Oct-04-10 10:11 PM |
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A county can have a county fire department with county taxes. Duh. nt |
valerief |
Oct-04-10 09:56 PM |
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Are you purposefully ignoring the primary thread? |
hendo |
Oct-04-10 10:07 PM |
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Because the county does not offer FD protection |
hendo |
Oct-04-10 09:47 PM |
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The entire premise is fucking stupid. |
eilen |
Oct-04-10 10:11 PM |
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Or you didn't have the money for one month. That ought to be a death sentence, right? |
eridani |
Oct-04-10 09:43 PM |
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Its hard to make that case 9 months too late. |
hendo |
Oct-04-10 09:55 PM |
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That's ridiculous. You don't let someone's life burn down for $75. |
EFerrari |
Oct-04-10 09:44 PM |
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Republicans do it for shits and giggles. nt |
valerief |
Oct-04-10 09:57 PM |
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No sympathy? |
flvegan |
Oct-04-10 09:15 PM |
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i have a hard time mustering up sympathy |
elana i am |
Oct-04-10 09:19 PM |
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His dogs and a cat DIED unnecessarily. Could have been a human. |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 09:53 PM |
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Agreed. I'm surprised anyone, anywhere, would support letting someone's house burn down |
Puregonzo1188 |
Oct-04-10 09:21 PM |
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the man made the decision to allow his house to burn down when he chose not to buy fire service. |
seabeyond |
Oct-04-10 09:48 PM |
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There are a lot of people on this board who appear to be doing their best to make Progressives & |
patrice |
Oct-04-10 09:28 PM |
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I got a late notice on my sewer bill this month |
eridani |
Oct-04-10 09:30 PM |
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Did the city send your sewage back? |
GoneOffShore |
Oct-04-10 09:36 PM |
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Who made you the arbiter of what's liberal and what's a reasonable position? |
Stinky The Clown |
Oct-04-10 09:32 PM |
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You agree that a liberal can support watching a house burn down - dogs and a cat dying inside? |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 10:45 PM |
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I can support a fire department doing what is necessary to keep itself solvent financially. Too bad |
KittyWampus |
Oct-04-10 10:57 PM |
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That's considered right-wing thinking |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 11:01 PM |
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NO, that's considered reality in a place that doesn't have a volunteer fire department |
KittyWampus |
Oct-04-10 11:04 PM |
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Good luck with that |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 11:08 PM |
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If someone with honest motives asks me that question, I'd give an honest answer. |
Stinky The Clown |
Oct-04-10 11:01 PM |
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lol |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 11:02 PM |
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Wow, you do not have a logical brain cell in your head! |
KansasVoter |
Oct-04-10 09:33 PM |
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Well said. |
DURHAM D |
Oct-04-10 09:52 PM |
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Enjoy the smell of burning animals much? |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 10:48 PM |
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You are not tracking well. nt |
DURHAM D |
Oct-04-10 10:54 PM |
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At least I'm a compassionate liberal (i.e. - I have a heart) |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 10:57 PM |
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Mmmm, I support death like in a 3rd world country or 19th century America |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 10:47 PM |
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He made a conscious decision not to pay his taxes. |
Swede |
Oct-04-10 09:33 PM |
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No, he forgot to send the money in. Very different n/t |
eridani |
Oct-04-10 09:39 PM |
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There's probably a lawsuit here. |
EFerrari |
Oct-04-10 09:41 PM |
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I think he would lose a lawsuit |
tammywammy |
Oct-04-10 09:51 PM |
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It's very likely that being at the scene of a fire and not intervening |
EFerrari |
Oct-04-10 09:56 PM |
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the guy mentioned that it had happened before to his boy |
mitchtv |
Oct-04-10 10:18 PM |
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I guess we should be happy that no one roasted a pig in the embers |
EFerrari |
Oct-04-10 10:20 PM |
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Yeah,he forgot. That's the ticket. |
Swede |
Oct-04-10 09:41 PM |
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I'm sure you always pay assessments that come only once a year |
eridani |
Oct-04-10 09:44 PM |
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That's why they did follow up phone calls n/t |
tammywammy |
Oct-04-10 09:52 PM |
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He was mailed a notice,then the county called all to remind |
Swede |
Oct-04-10 09:58 PM |
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I am saddened by that attitude. What ever the reason, he shouldnt of had to pay with his house, his |
rhett o rick |
Oct-04-10 09:56 PM |
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His son had a fire,he was reminded twice about the fee,so he knew. |
Swede |
Oct-04-10 10:59 PM |
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Hey Sarge. Thanks for pointing this out. |
pa28 |
Oct-04-10 09:34 PM |
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With you Sarge |
lifesbeautifulmagic |
Oct-04-10 09:39 PM |
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Damn Skippy. nt |
MrScorpio |
Oct-04-10 09:41 PM |
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I agree 1000% |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 09:45 PM |
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Yeah, I know. I was shocked by attitudes on another thread |
eilen |
Oct-04-10 10:19 PM |
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the man made his decision not to have fire service. HE made the decision. HE said NO |
seabeyond |
Oct-04-10 09:47 PM |
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Because people make stupid decisions all the time |
EFerrari |
Oct-04-10 09:52 PM |
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He called them and they refused to come |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 09:55 PM |
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Thank you. |
timber84 |
Oct-04-10 10:08 PM |
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You're not alone. |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 10:11 PM |
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did he also say that his son "forgot" to pay too. had a fire and was able to pay after? nt |
seabeyond |
Oct-04-10 11:44 PM |
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Keep making excuses for privatized libertarian "19th Century" thinking |
HughMoran |
Oct-05-10 12:06 AM |
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Did he actually say "No, I don't want fire service"? - |
lynne |
Oct-04-10 10:08 PM |
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DUers sympathy for people often rivals the Freepers. |
Forkboy |
Oct-04-10 09:52 PM |
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Thank you. |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 09:58 PM |
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Lord of the Files. |
EFerrari |
Oct-04-10 10:21 PM |
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Where's the sympathy for the FIRE DEPARTMENT? You know, the people who need equpiment |
KittyWampus |
Oct-04-10 11:00 PM |
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Why, did their equipment burn down, too? |
EFerrari |
Oct-04-10 11:01 PM |
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The same FD that refused payment when he offered it? |
Posteritatis |
Oct-04-10 11:10 PM |
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LOL! How exactly is the Fire Dept. supposed to be funded if people only pay when their house is on |
KittyWampus |
Oct-04-10 11:11 PM |
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The house fire responses confused me as well. |
Zax2me |
Oct-04-10 09:55 PM |
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K&R. We rarely agree on anything, but this is just absurd. |
Greyhound |
Oct-04-10 10:05 PM |
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Auto-Unrec for presuming to say who belongs on DU and who does not |
slackmaster |
Oct-04-10 10:09 PM |
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So you support murdering of pets due to forgetting to pay $75 fee? |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 10:50 PM |
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The point of that article is that's what happens when government ISN'T involved. |
Zoeisright |
Oct-04-10 10:09 PM |
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They do have it ass backwards. One of them said this is what SOCIALISTS |
EFerrari |
Oct-04-10 10:13 PM |
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If you have a problem with the posts here, either become an admin or complain to one. |
Zavulon |
Oct-04-10 10:20 PM |
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If this man was late on his health insurance premium and went to the ER - |
lynne |
Oct-04-10 10:28 PM |
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I've seen plenty of posts here about people not getting the care they needed.. |
Fumesucker |
Oct-04-10 10:49 PM |
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DU made a guess about his politics and decided that makes it okay. (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Oct-04-10 10:56 PM |
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These are the same people that argued Dr. Gates deserved to be arrested |
EFerrari |
Oct-04-10 11:03 PM |
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Of course. And if the firefighters had let someone die |
Pithlet |
Oct-04-10 11:08 PM |
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I wonder if there'd be an uproar if people decided the victims were Republicans. (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Oct-04-10 11:08 PM |
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What difference does it make? The county voted. They didn't want to pay |
Pithlet |
Oct-04-10 11:17 PM |
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I'm talking about this guy in particular, not "the county" |
Posteritatis |
Oct-04-10 11:21 PM |
#143 |
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Yes, but you responded to me, and I wasn't. |
Pithlet |
Oct-04-10 11:32 PM |
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I'm reeling about this myself |
Canuckistanian |
Oct-04-10 10:55 PM |
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I know--I can't believe this either. People being glib about "choices" and "bad decisions". |
TwilightGardener |
Oct-04-10 11:06 PM |
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It's mind-numbing in it's cold-heartedness |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 11:25 PM |
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Sadly, the party and this webs site.. |
girl gone mad |
Oct-04-10 11:24 PM |
#145 |
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Many of the so-called progressive voices as well |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 11:27 PM |
#147 |
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The consumer abuse/protection threads can be equally revealing |
depakid |
Oct-04-10 11:37 PM |
#149 |
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Both sides of the coin |
DonCoquixote |
Oct-04-10 11:37 PM |
#150 |
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Yes, we now have asterisk progressives. |
TexasObserver |
Oct-04-10 11:38 PM |
#151 |
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What's wrong? |
BlueCheese |
Oct-04-10 11:48 PM |
#155 |
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lol |
HughMoran |
Oct-04-10 11:53 PM |
#156 |
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We're locking this |
lazarus |
Oct-05-10 12:11 AM |
#158 |
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