alcibiades_mystery
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Mon Oct-04-10 05:10 PM
Response to Reply #21 |
| 23. Some layers of matching are not preferable |
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You can't have colleges preaching diversity non-stop, then have incoming first-year students paired for similarity. Certainly, this doesn't mean that you put the Klan member in the room with the African American, but I don't think many residential life professionals would find a descent into tribalism to be the preferable response.
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| -Tyler Clementi Suicide: Rutgers Student Apparently Sought Room Change |
Hepburn |
Oct-04-10 11:31 AM |
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Thank you for the rec's... |
Hepburn |
Oct-04-10 11:46 AM |
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... he's CHARGED? I didn't know that |
renate |
Oct-05-10 01:26 AM |
#65 |
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what daughter are you talking about? |
MNBrewer |
Oct-05-10 10:29 AM |
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How hard is it to figure out? |
6000eliot |
Oct-05-10 02:54 AM |
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Well, it should be too surprising... |
liberation |
Oct-05-10 10:51 AM |
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Side issue to this story- every dorm I've heard about bears a strong resemblance to |
hedgehog |
Oct-04-10 11:54 AM |
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Wow.... |
Hepburn |
Oct-04-10 11:59 AM |
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I knew someone who had to have his room ready for inspection |
hedgehog |
Oct-04-10 12:07 PM |
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That is a good idea. Back in the dark ages of the 1960s, we had Dorm Mothers.... |
Hepburn |
Oct-04-10 01:23 PM |
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PIA maybe, but at least they cared! |
hedgehog |
Oct-04-10 03:16 PM |
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Being intrusive doesn't equate with "caring". |
bobbolink |
Oct-04-10 09:16 PM |
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For us, it was Thursdays. |
knitter4democracy |
Oct-04-10 08:53 PM |
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Kids without adult supervision for the first time ever..... |
ProudToBeBlueInRhody |
Oct-04-10 06:00 PM |
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How about no longer FORCING all first and second-year students to live in the dorms? |
Ken Burch |
Oct-05-10 12:22 AM |
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$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ |
Chipper Chat |
Oct-05-10 12:33 AM |
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Better to sacrifice a few kids than to pass up money. |
Ken Burch |
Oct-05-10 12:56 AM |
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My soon to be step son is a freshman |
blueamy66 |
Oct-05-10 08:25 AM |
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Well, things are obviously different in Florida, and for your son's sake |
Ken Burch |
Oct-05-10 04:30 PM |
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my firstborn is away at school for the first time |
babydollhead |
Oct-05-10 11:31 AM |
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recommend |
TexasObserver |
Oct-04-10 12:01 PM |
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this country does not care about people, only $$$$$$$$$$$ |
Lost4words |
Oct-04-10 12:06 PM |
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I see a big lawsuit |
CatFancy55 |
Oct-04-10 12:25 PM |
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I can see that... |
Hepburn |
Oct-04-10 01:24 PM |
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I just realized something... |
MrScorpio |
Oct-04-10 01:34 PM |
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he's not invading the privacy of the room, he's invading the privacy of the person |
fishwax |
Oct-04-10 01:50 PM |
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This is where I think that a defense lawyer could work against that argument: |
MrScorpio |
Oct-04-10 02:08 PM |
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I think the real problem you're going to see in this case |
alcibiades_mystery |
Oct-04-10 04:13 PM |
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That's a very likely scenario for sure |
MrScorpio |
Oct-04-10 04:51 PM |
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I fail to see how defense is going to win an argument of |
LisaL |
Oct-04-10 06:32 PM |
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It's certainly not a high probability defense |
alcibiades_mystery |
Oct-04-10 06:56 PM |
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Do you really think they have hundreds of similar cases? |
LisaL |
Oct-04-10 07:04 PM |
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Of college student secretly taping their roommates? |
alcibiades_mystery |
Oct-04-10 07:10 PM |
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Even assuming there were several similar cases not prosecuted, |
LisaL |
Oct-04-10 07:24 PM |
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No |
alcibiades_mystery |
Oct-04-10 07:33 PM |
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Somehow I think you're wrong. |
Tunkamerica |
Oct-05-10 02:30 AM |
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OK - it's not your logic. It's your interpretation. |
MedicalAdmin |
Oct-05-10 10:39 AM |
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I don't understand why |
alcibiades_mystery |
Oct-05-10 11:32 AM |
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But, isn't it a civil case that you are arguing? |
MedicalAdmin |
Oct-05-10 10:38 AM |
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Actually |
alcibiades_mystery |
Oct-05-10 11:35 AM |
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Well first of all it's not Ravi's room. He does not own it. |
LisaL |
Oct-04-10 06:27 PM |
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That's right, but it is his campus residence, however |
MrScorpio |
Oct-04-10 06:35 PM |
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And college has a code of conduct. |
LisaL |
Oct-04-10 06:46 PM |
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Well, yeah, But that's solely under Rutgers' purview |
MrScorpio |
Oct-04-10 06:49 PM |
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No, state has charged them with invasion of privacy. |
LisaL |
Oct-04-10 06:55 PM |
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Plenty of that crap in the internet |
Gaedel |
Oct-04-10 03:46 PM |
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"Plenty of stuff out there" |
Wednesdays |
Oct-04-10 06:10 PM |
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C'mon. You don't think that is actually real, do you? |
MedicalAdmin |
Oct-05-10 10:41 AM |
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It was Tyler's privacy which was invaded... |
Hepburn |
Oct-04-10 04:24 PM |
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Clementi asked for and had an expectation of privacy. Ravi broadcast |
KurtNYC |
Oct-04-10 07:44 PM |
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Here's the statute. |
rug |
Oct-04-10 05:46 PM |
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So, unless Tyler or the other guy had exposed genitalia... |
MrScorpio |
Oct-04-10 06:31 PM |
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Well I'd think it's not an asexual conduct. |
LisaL |
Oct-04-10 06:58 PM |
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I'm talking about the LEGAL definition |
MrScorpio |
Oct-04-10 07:03 PM |
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I think you're reading this correctly. Looks like sexual contact also involves genitalia. |
rug |
Oct-04-10 07:00 PM |
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So it really depends on how far Tyler and the other guy went? |
MrScorpio |
Oct-04-10 07:11 PM |
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Since the two are charged with invasion of privacy, |
LisaL |
Oct-04-10 07:31 PM |
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Well, like I said, it's going to be up to a jury to look and the law and the evidence |
MrScorpio |
Oct-04-10 07:35 PM |
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The state can't charge them with anything they want. |
LisaL |
Oct-04-10 08:02 PM |
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People get unwarranted charges all the time |
MrScorpio |
Oct-04-10 08:23 PM |
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Legally, in California, recording someone in a private area requires notification. |
Xithras |
Oct-04-10 07:55 PM |
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Rutgers aren't in CA. |
LisaL |
Oct-04-10 07:59 PM |
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Lol, true. Not sure how I misread that. |
Xithras |
Oct-04-10 08:01 PM |
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True |
LiberalEsto |
Oct-05-10 08:00 AM |
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Davi invaded the privacy of his roommate .... NOT his dorm room---!!! |
defendandprotect |
Oct-04-10 08:07 PM |
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The invasion comes from the taping and there have been |
quiller4 |
Oct-04-10 09:16 PM |
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Video recording without consent is the issue here |
LiberalEsto |
Oct-05-10 07:59 AM |
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Does NJ have a transfered intent law. |
MedicalAdmin |
Oct-05-10 10:33 AM |
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It was not "his own" room, he was sharing it with a roommate... |
liberation |
Oct-05-10 11:05 AM |
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Could these two see federal hate crime charges against them? |
WeekendWarrior |
Oct-04-10 01:53 PM |
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I don't get the hate crime charge at all. |
Tunkamerica |
Oct-05-10 02:33 AM |
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"I hate gay people, so I'm going to ridicule and expose them on the Internet" |
Cronus Protagonist |
Oct-05-10 05:59 AM |
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If victim had been black instead of gay and had been filmed |
Tunkamerica |
Oct-05-10 01:36 PM |
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Doubtful - There was no threat/perception of violence |
66 dmhlt |
Oct-05-10 07:51 AM |
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Nothing in a college dorm happens in two days |
alcibiades_mystery |
Oct-04-10 01:57 PM |
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I think that freshman away from home for the first time are very , very |
hedgehog |
Oct-04-10 03:21 PM |
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I agree...they're also very, very jumpy |
alcibiades_mystery |
Oct-04-10 04:05 PM |
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Yeah, In My Day |
RobinA |
Oct-04-10 09:12 PM |
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According to the timeline from another article |
ThomasQED |
Oct-05-10 10:38 AM |
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Yes, this is my point exactly |
alcibiades_mystery |
Oct-05-10 11:31 AM |
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OK, I'm out of school for 100 years now, but . . . |
tilsammans |
Oct-04-10 04:44 PM |
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Some layers of matching are not preferable |
alcibiades_mystery |
Oct-04-10 05:10 PM |
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I agree totally with what you said, but . . . |
tilsammans |
Oct-04-10 05:31 PM |
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That would be tough though.... |
onpatrol98 |
Oct-05-10 11:48 AM |
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We had something like that at my college. |
jmm |
Oct-04-10 05:56 PM |
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I wanted a non-smoking room |
ProudToBeBlueInRhody |
Oct-04-10 06:05 PM |
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We did that in 1997 |
Tunkamerica |
Oct-05-10 02:35 AM |
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This should be more about |
Politicalboi |
Oct-04-10 07:07 PM |
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This is a Be Careful What You Wish For |
RobinA |
Oct-04-10 09:23 PM |
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I totally agree with you. |
LisaL |
Oct-04-10 10:25 PM |
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Thank you. I feel this story is making people lose their grip |
Tunkamerica |
Oct-05-10 02:40 AM |
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Hmm |
kenfrequed |
Oct-05-10 08:06 AM |
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My daughter is a self-proclaimed lesbian atheist. She was turned |
hedgehog |
Oct-05-10 11:22 AM |
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She may know best |
kenfrequed |
Oct-06-10 05:53 AM |
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Recommend |
xchrom |
Oct-05-10 08:29 AM |
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There is a reason I refused to live in the dorms. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-05-10 08:40 AM |
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My youngest daughter, freshman year, made a deposit on |
hedgehog |
Oct-05-10 11:24 AM |
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No offense, but you don't think that was just you telling yourself that.... |
ProudToBeBlueInRhody |
Oct-05-10 04:37 PM |
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Just so happens |
mstinamotorcity |
Oct-05-10 11:15 AM |
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I am with you |
MadMaddie |
Oct-05-10 11:18 AM |
#88 |