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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 05:10 PM
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23. Some layers of matching are not preferable
You can't have colleges preaching diversity non-stop, then have incoming first-year students paired for similarity. Certainly, this doesn't mean that you put the Klan member in the room with the African American, but I don't think many residential life professionals would find a descent into tribalism to be the preferable response.
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  -Tyler Clementi Suicide: Rutgers Student Apparently Sought Room Change Hepburn  Oct-04-10 11:31 AM   #0 
  - Thank you for the rec's...  Hepburn   Oct-04-10 11:46 AM   #1 
  - ... he's CHARGED? I didn't know that  renate   Oct-05-10 01:26 AM   #65 
  - what daughter are you talking about?  MNBrewer   Oct-05-10 10:29 AM   #79 
  - How hard is it to figure out?  6000eliot   Oct-05-10 02:54 AM   #70 
     - Well, it should be too surprising...  liberation   Oct-05-10 10:51 AM   #85 
  - Side issue to this story- every dorm I've heard about bears a strong resemblance to  hedgehog   Oct-04-10 11:54 AM   #2 
  - Wow....  Hepburn   Oct-04-10 11:59 AM   #3 
  - I knew someone who had to have his room ready for inspection  hedgehog   Oct-04-10 12:07 PM   #6 
     - That is a good idea. Back in the dark ages of the 1960s, we had Dorm Mothers....  Hepburn   Oct-04-10 01:23 PM   #8 
     - PIA maybe, but at least they cared!  hedgehog   Oct-04-10 03:16 PM   #15 
        - Being intrusive doesn't equate with "caring".  bobbolink   Oct-04-10 09:16 PM   #58 
     - For us, it was Thursdays.  knitter4democracy   Oct-04-10 08:53 PM   #56 
  - Kids without adult supervision for the first time ever.....  ProudToBeBlueInRhody   Oct-04-10 06:00 PM   #27 
  - How about no longer FORCING all first and second-year students to live in the dorms?  Ken Burch   Oct-05-10 12:22 AM   #62 
  - $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$  Chipper Chat   Oct-05-10 12:33 AM   #63 
  - Better to sacrifice a few kids than to pass up money.  Ken Burch   Oct-05-10 12:56 AM   #64 
  - My soon to be step son is a freshman  blueamy66   Oct-05-10 08:25 AM   #76 
     - Well, things are obviously different in Florida, and for your son's sake  Ken Burch   Oct-05-10 04:30 PM   #97 
  - my firstborn is away at school for the first time  babydollhead   Oct-05-10 11:31 AM   #91 
  - recommend  TexasObserver   Oct-04-10 12:01 PM   #4 
  - this country does not care about people, only $$$$$$$$$$$  Lost4words   Oct-04-10 12:06 PM   #5 
  - I see a big lawsuit  CatFancy55   Oct-04-10 12:25 PM   #7 
  - I can see that...  Hepburn   Oct-04-10 01:24 PM   #9 
  - I just realized something...  MrScorpio   Oct-04-10 01:34 PM   #10 
  - he's not invading the privacy of the room, he's invading the privacy of the person  fishwax   Oct-04-10 01:50 PM   #11 
  - This is where I think that a defense lawyer could work against that argument:  MrScorpio   Oct-04-10 02:08 PM   #14 
  - I think the real problem you're going to see in this case  alcibiades_mystery   Oct-04-10 04:13 PM   #19 
  - That's a very likely scenario for sure  MrScorpio   Oct-04-10 04:51 PM   #22 
  - I fail to see how defense is going to win an argument of  LisaL   Oct-04-10 06:32 PM   #32 
  - It's certainly not a high probability defense  alcibiades_mystery   Oct-04-10 06:56 PM   #37 
     - Do you really think they have hundreds of similar cases?  LisaL   Oct-04-10 07:04 PM   #41 
     - Of college student secretly taping their roommates?  alcibiades_mystery   Oct-04-10 07:10 PM   #43 
     - Even assuming there were several similar cases not prosecuted,  LisaL   Oct-04-10 07:24 PM   #45 
        - No  alcibiades_mystery   Oct-04-10 07:33 PM   #47 
     - Somehow I think you're wrong.  Tunkamerica   Oct-05-10 02:30 AM   #66 
     - OK - it's not your logic. It's your interpretation.  MedicalAdmin   Oct-05-10 10:39 AM   #83 
        - I don't understand why  alcibiades_mystery   Oct-05-10 11:32 AM   #93 
  - But, isn't it a civil case that you are arguing?  MedicalAdmin   Oct-05-10 10:38 AM   #81 
     - Actually  alcibiades_mystery   Oct-05-10 11:35 AM   #94 
  - Well first of all it's not Ravi's room. He does not own it.  LisaL   Oct-04-10 06:27 PM   #30 
     - That's right, but it is his campus residence, however  MrScorpio   Oct-04-10 06:35 PM   #33 
        - And college has a code of conduct.  LisaL   Oct-04-10 06:46 PM   #34 
           - Well, yeah, But that's solely under Rutgers' purview  MrScorpio   Oct-04-10 06:49 PM   #35 
              - No, state has charged them with invasion of privacy.  LisaL   Oct-04-10 06:55 PM   #36 
  - Plenty of that crap in the internet  Gaedel   Oct-04-10 03:46 PM   #17 
     - "Plenty of stuff out there"  Wednesdays   Oct-04-10 06:10 PM   #29 
     - C'mon. You don't think that is actually real, do you?  MedicalAdmin   Oct-05-10 10:41 AM   #84 
  - It was Tyler's privacy which was invaded...  Hepburn   Oct-04-10 04:24 PM   #20 
  - Clementi asked for and had an expectation of privacy. Ravi broadcast  KurtNYC   Oct-04-10 07:44 PM   #49 
  - Here's the statute.  rug   Oct-04-10 05:46 PM   #25 
  - So, unless Tyler or the other guy had exposed genitalia...  MrScorpio   Oct-04-10 06:31 PM   #31 
     - Well I'd think it's not an asexual conduct.  LisaL   Oct-04-10 06:58 PM   #38 
     - I'm talking about the LEGAL definition  MrScorpio   Oct-04-10 07:03 PM   #40 
     - I think you're reading this correctly. Looks like sexual contact also involves genitalia.  rug   Oct-04-10 07:00 PM   #39 
        - So it really depends on how far Tyler and the other guy went?  MrScorpio   Oct-04-10 07:11 PM   #44 
           - Since the two are charged with invasion of privacy,  LisaL   Oct-04-10 07:31 PM   #46 
              - Well, like I said, it's going to be up to a jury to look and the law and the evidence  MrScorpio   Oct-04-10 07:35 PM   #48 
                 - The state can't charge them with anything they want.  LisaL   Oct-04-10 08:02 PM   #53 
                    - People get unwarranted charges all the time  MrScorpio   Oct-04-10 08:23 PM   #55 
  - Legally, in California, recording someone in a private area requires notification.  Xithras   Oct-04-10 07:55 PM   #50 
  - Rutgers aren't in CA.  LisaL   Oct-04-10 07:59 PM   #51 
     - Lol, true. Not sure how I misread that.  Xithras   Oct-04-10 08:01 PM   #52 
     - True  LiberalEsto   Oct-05-10 08:00 AM   #74 
  - Davi invaded the privacy of his roommate .... NOT his dorm room---!!!  defendandprotect   Oct-04-10 08:07 PM   #54 
  - The invasion comes from the taping and there have been  quiller4   Oct-04-10 09:16 PM   #59 
  - Video recording without consent is the issue here  LiberalEsto   Oct-05-10 07:59 AM   #73 
  - Does NJ have a transfered intent law.  MedicalAdmin   Oct-05-10 10:33 AM   #80 
  - It was not "his own" room, he was sharing it with a roommate...  liberation   Oct-05-10 11:05 AM   #86 
  - Could these two see federal hate crime charges against them?  WeekendWarrior   Oct-04-10 01:53 PM   #12 
  - I don't get the hate crime charge at all.  Tunkamerica   Oct-05-10 02:33 AM   #67 
  - "I hate gay people, so I'm going to ridicule and expose them on the Internet"  Cronus Protagonist   Oct-05-10 05:59 AM   #71 
     - If victim had been black instead of gay and had been filmed  Tunkamerica   Oct-05-10 01:36 PM   #96 
  - Doubtful - There was no threat/perception of violence  66 dmhlt   Oct-05-10 07:51 AM   #72 
  - Nothing in a college dorm happens in two days  alcibiades_mystery   Oct-04-10 01:57 PM   #13 
  - I think that freshman away from home for the first time are very , very  hedgehog   Oct-04-10 03:21 PM   #16 
  - I agree...they're also very, very jumpy  alcibiades_mystery   Oct-04-10 04:05 PM   #18 
  - Yeah, In My Day  RobinA   Oct-04-10 09:12 PM   #57 
  - According to the timeline from another article  ThomasQED   Oct-05-10 10:38 AM   #82 
     - Yes, this is my point exactly  alcibiades_mystery   Oct-05-10 11:31 AM   #92 
  - OK, I'm out of school for 100 years now, but . . .  tilsammans   Oct-04-10 04:44 PM   #21 
  - Some layers of matching are not preferable  alcibiades_mystery   Oct-04-10 05:10 PM   #23 
  - I agree totally with what you said, but . . .  tilsammans   Oct-04-10 05:31 PM   #24 
     - That would be tough though....  onpatrol98   Oct-05-10 11:48 AM   #95 
  - We had something like that at my college.  jmm   Oct-04-10 05:56 PM   #26 
  - I wanted a non-smoking room  ProudToBeBlueInRhody   Oct-04-10 06:05 PM   #28 
  - We did that in 1997  Tunkamerica   Oct-05-10 02:35 AM   #68 
  - This should be more about  Politicalboi   Oct-04-10 07:07 PM   #42 
  - This is a Be Careful What You Wish For  RobinA   Oct-04-10 09:23 PM   #60 
     - I totally agree with you.  LisaL   Oct-04-10 10:25 PM   #61 
     - Thank you. I feel this story is making people lose their grip  Tunkamerica   Oct-05-10 02:40 AM   #69 
  - Hmm  kenfrequed   Oct-05-10 08:06 AM   #75 
  - My daughter is a self-proclaimed lesbian atheist. She was turned  hedgehog   Oct-05-10 11:22 AM   #89 
     - She may know best  kenfrequed   Oct-06-10 05:53 AM   #99 
  - Recommend  xchrom   Oct-05-10 08:29 AM   #77 
  - There is a reason I refused to live in the dorms.  Odin2005   Oct-05-10 08:40 AM   #78 
  - My youngest daughter, freshman year, made a deposit on  hedgehog   Oct-05-10 11:24 AM   #90 
  - No offense, but you don't think that was just you telling yourself that....  ProudToBeBlueInRhody   Oct-05-10 04:37 PM   #98 
  - Just so happens  mstinamotorcity   Oct-05-10 11:15 AM   #87 
  - I am with you  MadMaddie   Oct-05-10 11:18 AM   #88 
 

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