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Sat Oct-02-10 01:22 AM
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| 35. If you are accepting Hitler's rationale then it is you that is coupling yourself |
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with him. There was no way of 'segregating' Hitler as Mr. Molotov learned to the sad destruction of 30 million of the lives that you refer to. The strategy that you advocate was tried on the Eastern Front where there was much greater loss of life than on the Western Front where European powers tried to appease Hitler but learned that they had to stand up to Hitler's aggression. I just hope that this was an ethics class that was asking hypothetical questions to provoke discussion and not a history class. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop...  |
| -I had a college professor ask my class if WW2 was worth it... |
Skip Intro |
Oct-01-10 10:27 PM |
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Since the axis powers were expanding by conquest, there wouldn't |
SharonAnn |
Oct-01-10 10:30 PM |
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Exactly... |
hlthe2b |
Oct-01-10 10:32 PM |
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Germany couldn't have invaded.... |
Bigmack |
Oct-01-10 11:57 PM |
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Germany, Italy, Japan... had they not met the resistance that they did |
hlthe2b |
Oct-02-10 12:13 AM |
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Japan was even less likely to invade us... |
Bigmack |
Oct-02-10 12:33 AM |
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Let's stay real |
hlthe2b |
Oct-02-10 07:18 AM |
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Ahem. Please define 'us'. |
mahina |
Oct-02-10 09:53 AM |
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Nope, it would be.. |
ProudDad |
Oct-03-10 01:43 PM |
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Not when they ran out of resources to fight their wars... |
ProudDad |
Oct-03-10 01:41 PM |
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the time to fix it through negotiation ended when World War I started |
yurbud |
Oct-03-10 01:53 PM |
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I think bringing up people who don't commit violence against ones with different |
harun |
Oct-01-10 10:34 PM |
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? Rereading my post, I think it to be not well thought. |
Skip Intro |
Oct-01-10 10:36 PM |
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sorry, but once "you have your land" yer gonna want someone else's nt |
msongs |
Oct-01-10 10:37 PM |
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well, alas, that is human nature, isn't it? nt |
Skip Intro |
Oct-01-10 10:45 PM |
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Well, if it's "human nature," then the question of "was it worth it?" becomes superfluous. |
Orrex |
Oct-01-10 10:50 PM |
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We're talking about whatever is relevant. It's a big subject. |
Skip Intro |
Oct-01-10 10:53 PM |
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If it were human nature, all humans - no matter their culture - would behave that way. nt |
greyl |
Oct-02-10 02:25 AM |
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No, it isn't. |
Radical Activist |
Oct-02-10 12:47 PM |
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+1 Psychopaths seem to always end up running the show. nt |
phasma ex machina |
Oct-02-10 02:41 PM |
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NO! It is not! |
ProudDad |
Oct-03-10 01:45 PM |
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70 million died to save untold tens of millions from being |
WestSeattle2 |
Oct-01-10 10:38 PM |
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You really think that those who would have followed Hitler and Mussolini |
ProudDad |
Oct-03-10 01:56 PM |
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Have you ever looked at Germany's plans for Eastern Europe? |
hack89 |
Oct-03-10 02:08 PM |
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Is that you, Neville Chamberlain? I thought you were dead! |
Rabrrrrrr |
Oct-03-10 02:12 PM |
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ITA with SharonAnn. Besides, once upon a time, the world was segregated |
lunamagica |
Oct-01-10 10:41 PM |
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The whole "large and few nations" |
the redcoat |
Oct-01-10 10:46 PM |
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I had a friend once who used to sarcastically say |
rrneck |
Oct-01-10 10:48 PM |
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You just described the last 10K to 14K years of history |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-01-10 10:52 PM |
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The Nazis would have conquered America by force, then Final Solutioned us. |
krispos42 |
Oct-01-10 10:52 PM |
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Can't see it..... |
Bigmack |
Oct-02-10 12:11 AM |
#29 |
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Actually more plausible than you think |
MadHound |
Oct-02-10 09:05 AM |
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And this is it, the Messerschmidt Me 264: |
Aristus |
Oct-02-10 12:13 PM |
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Tactically, once they lost in Russia |
ProudDad |
Oct-03-10 02:00 PM |
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If we hadn't gotten involved, Hitler would have defeated Russia and England. |
krispos42 |
Oct-02-10 09:16 AM |
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According to studies made by Northrop aviation within the past |
COLGATE4 |
Oct-02-10 09:50 AM |
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COLGATE4 |
Diclotican |
Oct-02-10 03:44 PM |
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pure bullshit |
datasuspect |
Oct-02-10 01:45 AM |
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No, but they did have the industrial capacity of Europe |
MadHound |
Oct-02-10 09:07 AM |
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Nazi's wanted to go east, not west. nt. |
phasma ex machina |
Oct-02-10 02:44 PM |
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Invading North American would have been / is impossible for so many reasons. |
Dash87 |
Oct-02-10 02:58 PM |
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I don't think it matters. |
SmileyRose |
Oct-01-10 10:54 PM |
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+1 |
leftstreet |
Oct-01-10 10:55 PM |
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You are making the assumption that belief systems cause conflicts |
RandomThoughts |
Oct-01-10 10:54 PM |
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Isn't it? Is our meddling in the ME not analogous to the Crusades? |
Skip Intro |
Oct-01-10 11:36 PM |
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It's more analogous to the British Empire to me. nt |
phasma ex machina |
Oct-02-10 02:40 PM |
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Let me recommend a brilliant book on this |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-01-10 10:55 PM |
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A problem is is everyone in one of those sectors really wanting to be there? |
uppityperson |
Oct-01-10 10:56 PM |
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I have been with WWII Vets who said no, it wasn't worth it. |
annm4peace |
Oct-01-10 11:08 PM |
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Hitler would have agreed with you and all he wanted was his |
grantcart |
Oct-01-10 11:11 PM |
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I really don't appreciate that you would couple me with hitler. There's no need for that. |
Skip Intro |
Oct-01-10 11:20 PM |
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If you are accepting Hitler's rationale then it is you that is coupling yourself |
grantcart |
Oct-02-10 01:22 AM |
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It was just a question. Was not a call to abolish. A question. I do not couple myself with hitler, |
Skip Intro |
Oct-02-10 02:39 AM |
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Anglo strategy involved waiting for Germany's and Russia's armies to decimate each other. |
phasma ex machina |
Oct-02-10 02:29 PM |
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The earth is no longer viably segregated. |
HuckleB |
Oct-01-10 11:12 PM |
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If you're meaning for the United States, then |
Yupster |
Oct-01-10 11:59 PM |
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And there is the equation of how many more would have died in the death camps, no? |
HuckleB |
Oct-02-10 12:13 AM |
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How do you create that isolation? |
Ozymanithrax |
Oct-02-10 12:02 AM |
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I'm assuming was it worth it meaning loss of life to stop Hitler... |
Zax2me |
Oct-02-10 12:09 AM |
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The problem with WWII is WWI: the former was a direct result of the latter. |
apocalypsehow |
Oct-02-10 12:28 AM |
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The notion of "WWI (1914-1945)" has been growing on me lately |
Posteritatis |
Oct-02-10 01:31 AM |
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We don't break the Hundred Years War into pieces either. |
donco6 |
Oct-02-10 09:42 AM |
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Or the Thirty Years' War for that matter |
Posteritatis |
Oct-02-10 11:54 AM |
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True. Exactly. n/t |
donco6 |
Oct-03-10 01:34 PM |
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"because England decided it didn't want to compete with Germany on the High Seas"? |
muriel_volestrangler |
Oct-02-10 09:06 AM |
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I can agree with that |
Gaedel |
Oct-02-10 09:38 AM |
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Ah yes, of course, WWII was all our fault then |
WolverineDG |
Oct-02-10 12:07 PM |
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Did I say that? |
Gaedel |
Oct-02-10 02:19 PM |
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The Nazis came to power because of war reparations demanded by the Allies |
WolverineDG |
Oct-02-10 02:30 PM |
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Reparations |
Gaedel |
Oct-02-10 03:28 PM |
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Angloism trumps nationalism every time. Bet on it. nt |
phasma ex machina |
Oct-02-10 02:49 PM |
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The problem is that the German revolution of 1918 was completely crushed, despite a very fine start |
struggle4progress |
Oct-02-10 03:12 PM |
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You will always have the boundary crossers |
ismnotwasm |
Oct-02-10 12:29 AM |
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"True peace is not merely the absence of tension: it is the presence of justice." -- MLK |
HuckleB |
Oct-02-10 01:24 AM |
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Yes it was. |
proteus_lives |
Oct-02-10 01:48 AM |
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So you take all the Africans and people of African descent and you put them in Africa |
XemaSab |
Oct-02-10 02:19 AM |
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It's good to ask these questions |
Sherman A1 |
Oct-02-10 02:47 AM |
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If the US hadn't intervened . . . |
DeltaLitProf |
Oct-02-10 03:19 AM |
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In effect, WWII was the enforcement of a certain level of segregation. |
aikoaiko |
Oct-02-10 05:38 AM |
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Nobody in their right mind wanted WWII. But the Nazis wanted it: they intended |
struggle4progress |
Oct-02-10 08:42 AM |
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maybe they would have-- |
yellowwood |
Oct-02-10 09:25 AM |
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WWII Was The Last Truly Justified War This Country Was Involved In. |
Paladin |
Oct-02-10 08:58 AM |
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You are perpatrating the worst sin... |
ProudDad |
Oct-03-10 02:03 PM |
#84 |
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WWWCS? |
slackmaster |
Oct-02-10 09:41 AM |
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U.S.A. still would have built nuclear weapons fearing Germany was doing the same. |
hunter |
Oct-02-10 09:55 AM |
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the more important question is, did OUR involvment mean anything |
mkultra |
Oct-02-10 02:32 PM |
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humans need to have or steal what others have. |
spanone |
Oct-03-10 01:36 PM |
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WRONG |
ProudDad |
Oct-03-10 02:06 PM |
#85 |
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