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103. This is how extremists take control of a country.
They subvert and indoctrinate the military leaders to some fanatical belief system ... and then some years later, the military leaders are made into the tools of some silent, masked elite and there is a coup. This is how it is done.

This is an extremely important story. I hope that the Presidents is watching what is going on there.
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  -"Underground" Group of Cadets Say Air Force Academy Controlled by Evangelicals RamboLiberal  Sep-30-10 05:01 PM   #0 
  - this always seems to get swept under the run along with rape crimes.  KittyWampus   Sep-30-10 05:04 PM   #1 
  - +1. nt  Lorien   Sep-30-10 07:13 PM   #51 
  - hmmm - rape... evangelicals ... rape ... evangelicals... n/t  mzteris   Oct-01-10 02:19 PM   #100 
  - Teaching cadets to "go kill for Jesus".  louis-t   Sep-30-10 05:04 PM   #2 
  - Can those Evangelicals be much different from the Taliban?  Cal33   Sep-30-10 05:25 PM   #9 
     - All the difference in the world  gratuitous   Sep-30-10 05:29 PM   #12 
     - Bingo.  jgraz   Sep-30-10 06:28 PM   #45 
     - Same concept, different faith. n/t  RKP5637   Sep-30-10 05:34 PM   #16 
     - I'm not really sure it's a different faith.  Tesha   Sep-30-10 05:59 PM   #35 
        - Excellent point!!! n/t  RKP5637   Sep-30-10 06:58 PM   #49 
     - There's some difference. The stonings and nose snipping I've read  Obamanaut   Sep-30-10 06:51 PM   #47 
     - It's much more civilized  bergie321   Sep-30-10 07:49 PM   #56 
     - +100.  Hannah Bell   Oct-01-10 01:52 AM   #64 
     - ...on a wedding party  pinboy3niner   Oct-01-10 03:25 AM   #68 
     - There is still something of a difference. One group, by its actions, says  Obamanaut   Oct-01-10 07:05 AM   #78 
     - The Christian Holy Book says all the same things. They just don't follow it as much anymore.  DirkGently   Oct-01-10 08:48 AM   #84 
        - I think you'll find that the New Testament, the foundation for Christianity,  Obamanaut   Oct-01-10 12:01 PM   #90 
        - That's great, if you can convince the Christian fundies. Either way, no one's "Holy Book" is better  DirkGently   Oct-01-10 12:29 PM   #91 
        - Yeah, and Christians stopped how many hundreds of years ago?  pnwmom   Oct-01-10 01:47 PM   #97 
           - Correct. Because Islam isn't the problem. Regional chaos, culture, economics. Not the preference  DirkGently   Oct-01-10 07:00 PM   #118 
              - With all their faults Christians these days don't have anything  pnwmom   Oct-01-10 07:13 PM   #120 
                 - That's great. Doesn't make Christianity a better religion. It simply is not.  DirkGently   Oct-01-10 07:15 PM   #121 
                    - In its current manifestation, I think it is -- not compared to Muslims in general  pnwmom   Oct-01-10 10:05 PM   #122 
                       - It's not the religion. It's the culture. If Christianity replaced Islam in the Middle East, ,  DirkGently   Oct-02-10 05:11 PM   #136 
                          - Isn't Sharia a system of religious law? And isn't it followed  pnwmom   Oct-03-10 09:44 PM   #137 
     - Or to fly jets into buildings? n/t  pnwmom   Oct-01-10 01:45 PM   #96 
     - Or how about THIS?  PassingFair   Oct-01-10 10:28 PM   #125 
     - +666 trillion  valerief   Oct-01-10 03:12 PM   #107 
     - So far. They aren't in power. Yet.  CanonRay   Oct-01-10 02:09 PM   #99 
     - One million percent correct!!!!!!!!!!!!!  BrklynLiberal   Oct-01-10 09:44 AM   #86 
  - It's all of the military..not just the Air Force.  RagAss   Sep-30-10 05:04 PM   #3 
  - Recruiting "believers" is a good start  izquierdista   Sep-30-10 05:33 PM   #14 
  - There are no religious requirements for joining the military  USArmyParatrooper   Oct-01-10 06:13 AM   #75 
  - Bullshit  USArmyParatrooper   Oct-01-10 06:10 AM   #74 
     - I was in back in the 90's  kenfrequed   Oct-01-10 01:42 PM   #95 
     - True  47of74   Oct-01-10 03:09 PM   #105 
     - I'm still in and I've had completely different experiences than you describe.  USArmyParatrooper   Oct-01-10 03:17 PM   #108 
        - Really?  kenfrequed   Oct-01-10 03:32 PM   #109 
           - Are you talking Marine Bootcamp or Army Basic?  USArmyParatrooper   Oct-01-10 03:52 PM   #112 
           - So...  kenfrequed   Oct-01-10 04:26 PM   #115 
              - Stawman. Words I didn't use might be easier to argue against, but they're still not my words.  USArmyParatrooper   Oct-01-10 04:34 PM   #116 
                 - I think you need to rethink your arguments.  kenfrequed   Oct-02-10 03:32 AM   #127 
                 - I think you need to rethink your arguments.  kenfrequed   Oct-02-10 03:32 AM   #128 
                    - Says the guy who's entire post is flawed.  USArmyParatrooper   Oct-02-10 08:34 AM   #131 
           - That was the situation in my basic training.  noamnety   Oct-01-10 11:46 PM   #126 
              - Back in the '70's when I took basic  DiverDave   Oct-02-10 05:33 AM   #129 
                 - It was the 80's for me.  noamnety   Oct-02-10 11:51 AM   #135 
     - You going to the Christian music concert at Ft. Bragg?  atreides1   Oct-01-10 03:34 PM   #110 
        - Nope. Didn't even know about it.  USArmyParatrooper   Oct-01-10 03:53 PM   #113 
  - Good thing we have a church in the Pentagon now!  riderinthestorm   Sep-30-10 05:06 PM   #4 
  - How many times have I said that the Air Force was a guild?  The Backlash Cometh   Sep-30-10 05:09 PM   #5 
  - If we ever have a coup the Air Force will start it and the  era veteran   Oct-01-10 04:39 PM   #117 
     - Hurrah for the Army.  The Backlash Cometh   Oct-02-10 10:33 AM   #134 
  - This has been pretty well reported for years - and its a national disgrace.  ThomWV   Sep-30-10 05:13 PM   #6 
  - This needs to be investigated and publicized. Disgraceful.  northoftheborder   Sep-30-10 05:15 PM   #8 
  - It has been and it is. They are bats^*t crazy out there  underpants   Sep-30-10 05:27 PM   #10 
  - I believe it's scary as all hell too but there's a fair number of DUers  riderinthestorm   Sep-30-10 05:31 PM   #13 
     - Just for the record  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-30-10 05:43 PM   #20 
        - I'm talking about our military command centers here in the US  riderinthestorm   Sep-30-10 05:53 PM   #32 
           - Yes, and  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-30-10 05:59 PM   #36 
              - I thought you were ignoring me?  riderinthestorm   Sep-30-10 06:11 PM   #39 
                 - What part of what the AF Academy is doing is violating the UCMJ  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-30-10 06:17 PM   #41 
                    - Chaplain service does not equal permanent shrine in the Pentagon. nt  riderinthestorm   Sep-30-10 06:25 PM   #42 
                       - Is the Pentagon a Military Base?  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-30-10 06:27 PM   #43 
  - Newsflash! There's no asterisk after "Thou shalt not kill"  JuniperLea   Sep-30-10 05:14 PM   #7 
  - Don't try telling that to my missionary uncle  FiveGoodMen   Sep-30-10 05:51 PM   #29 
     - I have a missionary cousin...  JuniperLea   Sep-30-10 06:08 PM   #38 
     - The translation is THOUGH SHALL NOT KILL  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-30-10 06:12 PM   #40 
        - "Thou", not "though"  Art_from_Ark   Oct-01-10 03:36 AM   #69 
     - Which conveniently robs the phrase of any objective meaning whatever, of course.  DirkGently   Oct-01-10 12:44 PM   #94 
  - The USAF has been run by batshit crazies since Curtis LeMay.  arbusto_baboso   Sep-30-10 05:29 PM   #11 
  - I suspect the US Army was pleased like crazy  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-30-10 05:44 PM   #21 
  - No doubt. Notice its the services that have less direct contact with any enemy that are always the  arbusto_baboso   Sep-30-10 05:46 PM   #23 
     - The AF is the worst  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-30-10 05:47 PM   #24 
     - To a degree that's true, yes.  arbusto_baboso   Sep-30-10 05:48 PM   #25 
        - Yeah usually in Logistics  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-30-10 05:49 PM   #27 
           - Exactly! To quote a famous Bill Mauldin "Joe and Willie" cartoon...  arbusto_baboso   Sep-30-10 05:50 PM   #28 
           - And I agree  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-30-10 05:52 PM   #30 
              - Now there's a cheery thought...  arbusto_baboso   Sep-30-10 05:53 PM   #33 
                 - Of course, it is cheery  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-30-10 05:57 PM   #34 
           - The Bravery of Being Out of Range  FiveGoodMen   Sep-30-10 05:52 PM   #31 
     - My favorite Marine...  Bigmack   Oct-01-10 05:36 AM   #71 
     - The USAF Reserve is where coward bush hid out during the Vietnam War  Kolesar   Oct-01-10 05:48 AM   #73 
     - Oh gods  kenfrequed   Oct-01-10 03:43 PM   #111 
  - Is That "Bombs Away" LeMay? n/t  Oldtimeralso   Oct-01-10 04:06 AM   #70 
  - The hold that religion...  awoke_in_2003   Sep-30-10 05:34 PM   #15 
  - There's a lot of truth in what you've said, we are in the same boat on thoughts about this... often  RKP5637   Sep-30-10 05:42 PM   #19 
  - There is hope  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-30-10 05:48 PM   #26 
  - "soon to peak"...  awoke_in_2003   Oct-01-10 01:28 AM   #61 
  - I think it will get a lot better as the years go by..people are slowly waking up.  krabigirl   Sep-30-10 06:00 PM   #37 
  - far too slowly, imho. nt  awoke_in_2003   Oct-01-10 01:28 AM   #62 
  - A fundamentalist takeover of this country could and probably will happen in my lifetime.  Initech   Sep-30-10 10:55 PM   #59 
  - Rayguns destroyed this country...  awoke_in_2003   Oct-01-10 01:30 AM   #63 
     - The more I read about the dominionists,, the more I absolutely despise them.  Initech   Oct-01-10 11:28 AM   #89 
  - WWIII The U.S. vs. The World.  Greyhound   Oct-01-10 12:44 PM   #93 
  - K & R  Scurrilous   Sep-30-10 05:39 PM   #17 
  - Dominionist.  Hotler   Sep-30-10 05:40 PM   #18 
  - The Air Force is afflicted with gangrenous Evangelicalism.  hunter   Sep-30-10 05:45 PM   #22 
  - This is a compleate DUHHHH!!!  Froward69   Sep-30-10 06:27 PM   #44 
  - What those cadets need to do  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-30-10 06:30 PM   #46 
  - K & R n/t  glinda   Sep-30-10 06:52 PM   #48 
  - I feel for these "underground" whistleblowers...  TroglodyteScholar   Sep-30-10 07:02 PM   #50 
  - Like the objectivity and accuracy of DU underground  stray cat   Sep-30-10 07:15 PM   #52 
  - -100  Hannah Bell   Oct-01-10 01:59 AM   #66 
  - If progressives are too good to serve in the military of course they can not dominate  stray cat   Sep-30-10 07:17 PM   #53 
  - -100  Hannah Bell   Oct-01-10 01:59 AM   #65 
  - You are Verrrry Ignorant if you believe that Garbage  fascisthunter   Oct-01-10 04:03 PM   #114 
  - Who would Jesus bomb  taught_me_patience   Sep-30-10 07:37 PM   #54 
  - Much of our country is run by Evangelicals  SocialistLez   Sep-30-10 07:44 PM   #55 
  - k & R  donheld   Sep-30-10 10:25 PM   #57 
  - Thank God Air Force personnel do not have access to nukes n/t  Strelnikov_   Sep-30-10 10:31 PM   #58 
  - Gives new meaning to the phrase "god warrior" doesn't it?  Initech   Sep-30-10 11:03 PM   #60 
  - What could go wrong?  anAustralianobserver   Oct-01-10 02:18 AM   #67 
  - K&R  Jeffersons Ghost   Oct-01-10 05:41 AM   #72 
  - This is dangerous. There's no crazy like God crazy.  Scuba   Oct-01-10 06:59 AM   #76 
  - My daughter had an opportunity to go there, and she considered it because  tblue37   Oct-01-10 07:00 AM   #77 
  - K&R nt  TBF   Oct-01-10 07:09 AM   #79 
  - The Praetorian Guard  blindpig   Oct-01-10 07:29 AM   #80 
  - You mean like stoning them, or snipping off their noses, etc.?  Obamanaut   Oct-01-10 07:33 AM   #81 
     - Nothing so primitive...  blindpig   Oct-01-10 07:40 AM   #82 
  - Good find. This has been a known issue at the AF Academy for years now.  DirkGently   Oct-01-10 08:44 AM   #83 
  - There have been some rumblings of this for years. Does the name Boykin ring any bells?  BrklynLiberal   Oct-01-10 09:44 AM   #85 
  - IE, the reason why DADT is REALLY hard to repeal right now  uponit7771   Oct-01-10 09:48 AM   #87 
  - Air Force cadets can't cast a cloture vote in Congress.  USArmyParatrooper   Oct-01-10 07:12 PM   #119 
  - I will say the rest of the Air Force officer population is not this nutty, as a group.  TwilightGardener   Oct-01-10 09:51 AM   #88 
  - I question the entire Academy system. Maybe saw "Lords of Discipline" once too many.  DirkGently   Oct-01-10 12:31 PM   #92 
  - it always has been under their control...this is not news to us old timers  ElsewheresDaughter   Oct-01-10 02:00 PM   #98 
  - K & R  felix_numinous   Oct-01-10 02:22 PM   #101 
  - We don't need go far to find  sulphurdunn   Oct-01-10 02:26 PM   #102 
  - This is how extremists take control of a country.  JDPriestly   Oct-01-10 02:38 PM   #103 
  - watch and do what?  LiberalLovinLug   Oct-01-10 03:04 PM   #104 
  - Just like Congress. nt  valerief   Oct-01-10 03:11 PM   #106 
  - We've heard this before and evidently nothing done about it ....  defendandprotect   Oct-01-10 10:13 PM   #123 
  - It has been this way since at least the early 70's...  rexcat   Oct-01-10 10:25 PM   #124 
  - The USAF makes the USMC look Progressive!  DailyGrind51   Oct-02-10 06:13 AM   #130 
  - Christian Evangelics have had a stranglehold on the USAF Academy 20 years.  TexasObserver   Oct-02-10 08:37 AM   #132 
  - San Antonio Base  Just One Woman   Oct-02-10 09:20 AM   #133 
  - this is part of the brainwashing Crusaders  lovuian   Oct-03-10 10:11 PM   #138 
  - Evangelicals of any religion + bombs = a really bad combination.  BreweryYardRat   Oct-04-10 12:16 AM   #139 
  - Evangelicals, Taliban: Both sides of the same coin. nt  Vehl   Oct-04-10 12:34 AM   #140 
 

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