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17. Rec. Thanks for posting this despite the asshole morons who unred'd it.
Obama is so disconnected from the left of his own party, it is just amazing. I have no fucking idea who he thinks voted him into office, but it was not the right...he had US pushing for him and making his presidency possible after he was attacked repeadedly as the most radical leftist in Congress. I could only rejoice after Clinton wasted years of opportunities to think that at last we had REAL LEFTIST PRESIDENT!!! The joke was on me.

Mr Obama, as I emailed the White House this morning, I have voted for Democrats in every election for over 40 years, and I plan to do so again, but I have NO "ENTHUSIASM" for an administration that continues the Bush regime's assault on our constitutional freedons via the Patriot Act and the HSA, and that has caved in the every GOP pressure to water down much needed legislation for the good of OUR COUNTRY! I will vote for Democratic candidates, but give no support to the Party itself, because I don't know who the hell you folks are, but you don't strike me as Democrats.

Fired Up? Hell, no.

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  -Has the White House Lost Their Minds? - FDL WillyT  Sep-28-10 04:46 PM   #0 
  - K&R  FiveGoodMen   Sep-28-10 04:50 PM   #1 
  - Whine at your own risk. nt  live love laugh   Sep-29-10 07:13 AM   #112 
  - The entire Democratic Platform seems to be: STFU and vote for us  ixion   Sep-28-10 04:51 PM   #2 
  - Yep  Luciferous   Sep-28-10 09:41 PM   #83 
  - yeah, so do they really want a democratic majority in congress?  newspeak   Sep-28-10 09:51 PM   #89 
  - Exactly! They'd rather hand it over to republicans so they have an excuse.  bc3000   Sep-29-10 10:40 AM   #145 
  - Don't think they give a shit about progressives  lark   Sep-29-10 01:04 PM   #178 
     - they would rather lose than be progressive.  tomp   Sep-29-10 05:05 PM   #199 
  - As it ought to. nt  LWolf   Sep-29-10 07:10 AM   #110 
  - Poetic justice, to say the least.  bobbolink   Sep-29-10 11:48 AM   #168 
     - To say the least.  LWolf   Sep-29-10 09:20 PM   #210 
  - I agree.  Beacool   Sep-29-10 08:31 AM   #122 
  - Why would I NOT  femrap   Sep-29-10 09:50 AM   #133 
  - I think they are throwing the election...  awoke_in_2003   Sep-29-10 11:19 AM   #158 
     - Yup. Makes it much easier for them to pass their  TBF   Sep-29-10 11:29 AM   #159 
  - Seriously.  EFerrari   Sep-28-10 04:52 PM   #3 
  - The WH thinks the 'professional left' is really nothing but DFH.  Rex   Sep-28-10 04:53 PM   #4 
  - "Uncle Lucifer"  EFerrari   Sep-28-10 04:54 PM   #5 
  - LOL !!!  WillyT   Sep-28-10 04:55 PM   #6 
  - LOL  leftstreet   Sep-28-10 05:53 PM   #38 
  - If only I'd heard the term Commander Failure Pants before I selected my pseudonym for DU  txlibdem   Sep-29-10 12:16 PM   #169 
  - C'mon, buck up and quit your whining, unreccers!  ClassWarrior   Sep-28-10 04:56 PM   #7 
  - It certainly seems a bizarre way to get the vote out. I would accentuate the positive  RKP5637   Sep-28-10 04:57 PM   #8 
  - carping? FDL is whining about Carping?  Whisp   Sep-28-10 04:58 PM   #9 
  - Pssst... Take Another Look...  WillyT   Sep-28-10 05:01 PM   #12 
  - OOps.  EFerrari   Sep-28-10 05:02 PM   #14 
  - The whining about FDL never ends.  Individualist   Sep-28-10 06:26 PM   #45 
     - I've Always Believed The Right Was In Denial, But Apparently, The Center Is Too...  WillyT   Sep-28-10 06:36 PM   #47 
  - Buck up. Really?  SammyWinstonJack   Sep-28-10 04:59 PM   #10 
  - You simpletons! I'll explain this 12-level Vulcan chess one more time  gratuitous   Sep-28-10 05:00 PM   #11 
  - Keep what we can and REALLY up the effort on Progressive primary challengers to Congress  glitch   Sep-28-10 05:33 PM   #31 
  - So true. "Gaming the midterm. Poor Nancy. She just did everything she was asked to.  chimpymustgo   Sep-28-10 06:56 PM   #55 
     - Not saying she's perfect, but the House has presented better legislation that the Senate and Admin  glitch   Sep-28-10 08:34 PM   #66 
  - Lose-Lose. Great choice they've given us.  leveymg   Sep-28-10 05:44 PM   #35 
  - +1  LWolf   Sep-29-10 07:12 AM   #111 
  - Rinse and repeat.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Sep-29-10 08:04 AM   #120 
  - And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the ballgame in a nutshell...  truebrit71   Sep-29-10 08:38 AM   #124 
  - +1  Arkansas Granny   Sep-29-10 08:48 AM   #129 
  - Ha! Ha! It is funny... because it is true  liberation   Sep-29-10 10:25 AM   #140 
  - This, unfortunately, is the answer.  myrna minx   Sep-29-10 10:32 AM   #143 
  - Yes, please be sensible  sonomak   Sep-29-10 11:45 AM   #165 
  - this deserves its own post  lapislzi   Sep-29-10 12:32 PM   #174 
  - its momentum or stalemate, not "this" or republican doom  bkozumplik   Sep-29-10 02:01 PM   #182 
  - This should be turned into a manifesto for progressives  sabrina 1   Sep-29-10 03:28 PM   #194 
  - The interesting thing is...  kenfrequed   Sep-29-10 04:28 PM   #198 
     - Excellent points. It IS the Blue Dogs/DLCers who are most at risk  sabrina 1   Sep-29-10 07:01 PM   #207 
        - Hmm  kenfrequed   Sep-30-10 12:55 PM   #216 
  - I agree with your analysis, gratuitous.  Uncle Joe   Sep-29-10 03:52 PM   #197 
  - EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!  tomp   Sep-29-10 05:09 PM   #200 
  - So sad but true... and I'm immune to that sour taste by now, no worries  Agony   Sep-29-10 05:18 PM   #203 
  - +1 n/t  Catherina   Sep-30-10 05:04 AM   #214 
  - They lost their minds when they decided "bi-partisanship" was more important than helping people  slay   Sep-28-10 05:02 PM   #13 
  - They lost their minds when they decided that being supported by Republicans was...  Tesha   Sep-28-10 06:51 PM   #54 
  - hear, hear  newspeak   Sep-28-10 10:03 PM   #97 
  - needed, perhaps, but if you haven't noticed, we don't get complete one-eighties in this country  Chulanowa   Sep-29-10 08:04 AM   #119 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-29-10 03:42 PM   #195 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-29-10 11:09 PM   #211 
           - I sure hope you are not doing any campaigning for this  sabrina 1   Sep-30-10 04:58 AM   #212 
              - You're not serious, are you?  Chulanowa   Oct-01-10 02:55 AM   #220 
  - and as Obama said in the Rolling Stone interview ..he realized Seven days into his Admin.  flyarm   Sep-29-10 09:48 AM   #132 
     - Great question ....!!  defendandprotect   Sep-29-10 02:04 PM   #184 
  - Shrug  Broderick   Sep-28-10 05:04 PM   #15 
  - I guess it depends upon whether being patient while the country goes right again  EFerrari   Sep-28-10 05:07 PM   #19 
  - Not my intention  Broderick   Sep-28-10 05:12 PM   #22 
     - That's what Democrats have done since about 1994 and their results  EFerrari   Sep-28-10 05:17 PM   #25 
     - It may seem that way  Broderick   Sep-28-10 05:26 PM   #27 
     - I want to know what is a centrist?  newspeak   Sep-28-10 10:08 PM   #98 
     - My opinion  Broderick   Sep-29-10 12:40 AM   #102 
        - In some ways I consider myself a centrist.  The Green Manalishi   Sep-29-10 10:44 AM   #148 
     - By that logic, since 70% of Americans want single payer...  txlibdem   Sep-29-10 12:59 PM   #177 
  - Suffering patiently is a good quality...  blindpig   Sep-29-10 11:40 AM   #163 
  - K & R nt  laughingliberal   Sep-28-10 05:04 PM   #16 
  - Rec. Thanks for posting this despite the asshole morons who unred'd it.  old mark   Sep-28-10 05:04 PM   #17 
  - "the left", "those far left liberals"  newspeak   Sep-28-10 10:00 PM   #93 
  - Exactly. I was a Union Steward, I believe in the working people and middle class.  old mark   Sep-29-10 05:54 AM   #107 
  - Well, I'm looking at it not as voting FOR Democrats ... but AGAINST Repugs .... !!!  defendandprotect   Sep-29-10 02:07 PM   #186 
  - FDL is taking the "whiners" comment personally.  Radical Activist   Sep-28-10 05:05 PM   #18 
  - and they respond by whining extra, extra hard.  dionysus   Sep-29-10 05:57 PM   #206 
  - Gates and reasons for a couple of illegal, immoral and unnecessary wars still get me.  Octafish   Sep-28-10 05:09 PM   #20 
  - I'm with you on that one!  Rex   Sep-29-10 05:48 PM   #205 
  - Is you is, or is you ain't, my constituency? nt  Xipe Totec   Sep-28-10 05:10 PM   #21 
  - Exactly  GreenPartyVoter   Sep-28-10 06:09 PM   #43 
  - Their message is NOT Dont be stupid, quit your bitching and vote for me.  dennis4868   Sep-28-10 05:13 PM   #23 
  - Except for that whole other part.where he, his vice, his press secretary and his CofS  EFerrari   Sep-28-10 05:15 PM   #24 
  - I agree with Obama and Biden  dennis4868   Sep-28-10 05:28 PM   #29 
     - A lot of shit is on the line here and I hope Obama and Biden  EFerrari   Sep-28-10 05:31 PM   #30 
     - Their whining doesn't appear very "powerful" to me, I think it's a bad PR move. nt  glitch   Sep-28-10 05:40 PM   #32 
     - Well if so much is on the line why aren't they attacking Republicans  walldude   Sep-28-10 05:46 PM   #36 
     - Exactly.  kenfrequed   Sep-30-10 01:07 PM   #217 
     - Why can't I do both?  zipplewrath   Sep-29-10 11:35 AM   #161 
     - Agree with the "for now" part ... cause we're going to have to deal with this Obama crap soon after  defendandprotect   Sep-29-10 02:09 PM   #187 
     - oh, you mean you got your pony. where's mine? nt  tomp   Sep-29-10 05:13 PM   #201 
  - "Let me just say, we've done a lot. I've got a list here in my pocket and maybe I'll show you...  Luminous Animal   Sep-28-10 09:39 PM   #82 
     - yep..lots of empty words..and rose colored glasses they keep trying to pass out..  flyarm   Sep-29-10 09:55 AM   #134 
     - "Preserving PRIVATIZED health care industry" -- a fiasco creating more suffering Americans ....!!!  defendandprotect   Sep-29-10 02:18 PM   #188 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-28-10 05:24 PM   #26 
  - Why does it seem (to me)  Broderick   Sep-28-10 05:28 PM   #28 
  - It's the GREED.  SammyWinstonJack   Sep-28-10 05:52 PM   #37 
  - Because they have to actually pass and implement legislation in the real world  Recursion   Sep-28-10 05:54 PM   #39 
  - Ya don't make it to the Big Leagues  blindpig   Sep-29-10 11:45 AM   #164 
  - Franken is about the only one I know who didn't drink the water.  harun   Sep-29-10 02:02 PM   #183 
  - Hear, here Lorien ^ My sentiments exactly. nt  glitch   Sep-28-10 05:41 PM   #33 
  - Yep. I've seen sitcoms with more complex scripts....  Junkdrawer   Sep-28-10 06:00 PM   #41 
  - Major dj vu  suffragette   Sep-28-10 09:27 PM   #76 
  - and, that's what I've been saying  newspeak   Sep-28-10 10:15 PM   #101 
  - what a load of garbage  dionysus   Sep-29-10 08:44 AM   #125 
  - see gratuitous' post upthread.  tomp   Sep-29-10 05:17 PM   #202 
  - "They" (the ones that own us) have been working on this since at least Nixon . . .  datasuspect   Sep-28-10 05:43 PM   #34 
  - That's just DFH talk  Cherchez la Femme   Sep-29-10 02:40 PM   #190 
  - Dayden is suggesting the President and VP have lost their minds?  ProSense   Sep-28-10 05:59 PM   #40 
  - DLC hogwash!  Jim Sagle   Sep-28-10 06:15 PM   #44 
     - While FDL is whining  ProSense   Sep-28-10 06:42 PM   #50 
        - So what did he tell them? Vote for us because if you don't, you suck?  Jim Sagle   Sep-28-10 07:23 PM   #60 
        - No, he said  ProSense   Sep-28-10 08:25 PM   #65 
           - Yes. You are the base, so vote for me. The problem is, the base is asking why...  Luminous Animal   Sep-28-10 09:30 PM   #78 
           - I see people are so pissed at him, they're reaching out get him!  Wednesdays   Sep-29-10 08:35 AM   #123 
        - and while you sit here and whine about FDL this is the email they sent out today!  flyarm   Sep-28-10 09:17 PM   #67 
           - FDL & Feingold. Fighting the good fight!  Luminous Animal   Sep-28-10 09:31 PM   #80 
           - She sent an e-mail at noon on the day the President was in Wisconsin? What's the favorite saying  ProSense   Sep-28-10 09:42 PM   #84 
              - I awoke on the east coast to that email in my inbox..not at noon ..  flyarm   Sep-29-10 10:02 AM   #136 
  - Cenk Had A Great Rant On This Subject Today  Me.   Sep-28-10 06:08 PM   #42 
  - "we tried to tell them"  BzaDem   Sep-28-10 06:42 PM   #51 
  - Good for them, and their insurance company owners. Not so good for us.  Jim Sagle   Sep-28-10 07:28 PM   #61 
  - And Yet...  WillyT   Sep-28-10 07:43 PM   #63 
  - That doesn't even attempt to refute what I said.  BzaDem   Sep-28-10 09:24 PM   #70 
     - Well... At Least You Got THAT Right...  WillyT   Sep-28-10 09:26 PM   #73 
     - Perhaps. Or perhaps 56/60ths of our party did care what the citizens of America wanted, and 1 didn't  BzaDem   Sep-28-10 09:49 PM   #87 
     - We don't know what would have happened since there was no vote ...  GOTV   Sep-29-10 08:01 AM   #118 
  - Ignorance Is Never Bliss  Me.   Sep-28-10 08:22 PM   #64 
  - it was a spot on Rant! and very passionate! eom  flyarm   Sep-28-10 09:19 PM   #68 
  - Why do I suddenly feel like the "Christ Figure" in a George Lucas film? n/t  leeroysphitz   Sep-28-10 06:33 PM   #46 
  - Posts from FDL like these are not part of the solution. They are part of the problem.  BzaDem   Sep-28-10 06:38 PM   #48 
  - You Are WRONG !!!  WillyT   Sep-28-10 06:50 PM   #53 
  - After what Obama has accomplished, the fact that you would think you had to "hold your nose"  BzaDem   Sep-28-10 09:25 PM   #71 
     - Um... You Are Aware, Are You Not, That Barack Obama Is NOT On The Ballot This Year ???  WillyT   Sep-28-10 09:28 PM   #77 
     - Yes, though what Obama has done is clearly linked to what members of Congress have done. n/t  BzaDem   Sep-28-10 09:50 PM   #88 
     - Very Little Awareness Going On There, If Any  Me.   Sep-28-10 10:01 PM   #95 
     - Supporting the repressive coup in Honduras was real enough.  EFerrari   Sep-28-10 09:46 PM   #86 
        - "It's the posters that just go away and don't bother to tell you they're gone"  BzaDem   Sep-28-10 09:54 PM   #91 
           - Another great gotv bumpersticker: "Your window of delusion will be shorter".  EFerrari   Sep-28-10 10:13 PM   #99 
           - Some people are their own worst enemies.  Forkboy   Sep-29-10 10:14 AM   #138 
              - Well, I've never heard "naderite" used as code for "you stupid social justice voters"  EFerrari   Sep-29-10 03:17 PM   #193 
           - My question to you would be : why are you here? If you so dislike discussion on truth?  flyarm   Sep-29-10 10:39 AM   #144 
  - Scream in the primaries ... line up for the general.  JoePhilly   Sep-28-10 07:20 PM   #59 
  - You are wrong and parroting some kind of BS that has been fed you!  flyarm   Sep-28-10 09:22 PM   #69 
  - One could justifiably ask the same of FDL and the answer would be "yes, obviously." nt  AtomicKitten   Sep-28-10 06:42 PM   #49 
  - Carter: Malaise . . . Obama: Whiners  ChairmanAgnostic   Sep-28-10 06:44 PM   #52 
  - Rahm: "Fucking Retarded". Gibbs: "(get) drug tested"  Ruby the Liberal   Sep-28-10 06:57 PM   #56 
  - this is the 1st election cycle I'm sitting out. I'm voting, just not for DINOs anymore  mod mom   Sep-29-10 07:05 AM   #109 
  - I hear you - loud and clear.  Ruby the Liberal   Sep-29-10 09:14 PM   #209 
  - Is my drug test covered by health insurance "reform"?  MannyGoldstein   Sep-29-10 07:44 AM   #114 
     - and what about Drug rehab?? whats the point of the test if there is no rehab! eom  flyarm   Sep-29-10 10:43 AM   #147 
  - I'm fairly certain that none of this is an accident. They know what they are doing.  Edweird   Sep-28-10 07:01 PM   #57 
  - ++++ exactly! eom  flyarm   Sep-28-10 09:25 PM   #72 
  - Oh Crap, even Bush didn't do this.  PFunk   Sep-28-10 07:13 PM   #58 
  - wait till you see the numbers on women tommorrow! Dem women..ugly! eom  flyarm   Sep-28-10 09:26 PM   #74 
  - an idea  riverdale   Sep-29-10 10:50 AM   #153 
  - I'll vote Democrat and for Obama again.  mix   Sep-28-10 07:28 PM   #62 
  - FDL makes baby Jesus cry!  QC   Sep-28-10 09:27 PM   #75 
  - ROFLMAO !!!  WillyT   Sep-28-10 09:30 PM   #79 
  - Looks like somebody doesn't like Rod and Todd! n/t  QC   Sep-28-10 10:14 PM   #100 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-28-10 09:44 PM   #85 
  - FDL is whiner central.  ncteechur   Sep-28-10 09:39 PM   #81 
  - After about ten more repetitions, that word will be completely empty  EFerrari   Sep-28-10 09:52 PM   #90 
  - "Whiner", how original. Is that your new toy this week?  Bluebear   Sep-29-10 04:02 AM   #106 
  - How is this guy able to type while nailed to a cross?  scheming daemons   Sep-28-10 09:56 PM   #92 
  - Voice Activated Droid  WillyT   Sep-28-10 10:01 PM   #94 
  - I really think they want to lose Congress.  Marr   Sep-28-10 10:03 PM   #96 
  - agree  democracy1st   Sep-29-10 03:51 AM   #104 
  - I agree.  bvar22   Sep-29-10 09:40 AM   #131 
  - So so sad that you are correct.  harun   Sep-29-10 02:05 PM   #185 
  - K&R&LOL.  Greyhound   Sep-29-10 03:01 AM   #103 
  - The "hippie punching" will stop when they stop carrying water for Rethuglicans.  boppers   Sep-29-10 04:01 AM   #105 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-29-10 07:46 AM   #115 
  - "Dont be stupid, quit your bitching and vote for me.  TexasObserver   Sep-29-10 06:22 AM   #108 
  - or better yet..HEY STUPID..QUIT YOUR WHINING AND VOTE FOR ME!  flyarm   Sep-29-10 10:46 AM   #149 
  - .  ProSense   Sep-29-10 07:22 AM   #113 
  - apparently we prefer when our politicians bother to use a little lube  eShirl   Sep-29-10 07:49 AM   #116 
  - Here's Rahm "Crowing" about preserving PRIVATIZED health care system ... !!!  defendandprotect   Sep-29-10 08:00 AM   #117 
  - I don't owe the current Democratic party a blessed thing  Beacool   Sep-29-10 08:27 AM   #121 
  - you darn well better vote young lady, or you're never getting another one of these!  dionysus   Sep-29-10 08:48 AM   #128 
     - Banky!!!  Beacool   Sep-29-10 10:06 AM   #137 
        - getting steroid injections into my spine. it's great fun.  dionysus   Sep-29-10 05:46 PM   #204 
           - Ohhh, that sounds painful!!!  Beacool   Sep-30-10 09:08 AM   #215 
  - IMHO, they're toying with us  Wednesdays   Sep-29-10 08:46 AM   #126 
  - We will fight for you, when you fight for us!! Stop capitulating before the discussion even starts!  on point   Sep-29-10 08:47 AM   #127 
  - Concerned the Hippy might be left standing.  RandomThoughts   Sep-29-10 08:50 AM   #130 
  - The beatings will continue until morale improves. EOM  2critical   Sep-29-10 09:58 AM   #135 
  - How Dems react to Obama right now is pretty much meaningless.  Forkboy   Sep-29-10 10:19 AM   #139 
  - for ppl who whine as much as Jane et al, they sure can't take a little push back  Hamlette   Sep-29-10 10:26 AM   #141 
  - Exactly. They sure can dish it out. But ask them to take just a little bit?  treestar   Sep-29-10 10:49 AM   #152 
  - and since you are in a very small minority here..most don't care who you think is unhinged.  flyarm   Sep-29-10 10:55 AM   #155 
  - what are you talking about?  Hamlette   Sep-29-10 01:05 PM   #179 
  - You're making the Op's point, the president in a shoving match  EFerrari   Sep-29-10 10:59 AM   #156 
     - not all of his voters  Hamlette   Sep-29-10 12:52 PM   #176 
        - DU is a very interesting place. The last survey showed  EFerrari   Sep-29-10 02:49 PM   #191 
  - So....  Deadgnome   Sep-29-10 10:30 AM   #142 
  - It's like hes not taking any of this seriously  LaurenG   Sep-29-10 10:40 AM   #146 
  - More trolling from Fuck Democrats Liberally  HughMoran   Sep-29-10 10:46 AM   #150 
  - Grow up - educate yourself.  Techn0Girl   Sep-29-10 12:21 PM   #170 
     - You first  HughMoran   Sep-29-10 12:25 PM   #172 
  - He knows you are not going to vote for him  treestar   Sep-29-10 10:49 AM   #151 
  - So basically, you are saying the article is right,  EFerrari   Sep-29-10 10:52 AM   #154 
  - I doubt that. He knows we'll vote for him in spite of it. He's been mislead  LaurenG   Sep-29-10 11:03 AM   #157 
  - And Once Again... OBAMA IS NOT ON THE BALLOT !!!  WillyT   Sep-29-10 07:32 PM   #208 
  - I would really like to see us have another option for 2012  WatchWhatISay   Sep-29-10 11:32 AM   #160 
  - because that would make our leaders really carry the torch  bkozumplik   Sep-29-10 01:57 PM   #181 
  - Oh dear I guess I am voting Republican now....  Evasporque   Sep-29-10 11:37 AM   #162 
  - I see that the nay sayers to the OP;  greiner3   Sep-29-10 11:46 AM   #166 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-29-10 11:47 AM   #167 
  - K & R  democrank   Sep-29-10 12:22 PM   #171 
  - K&R n/t  DeSwiss   Sep-29-10 12:32 PM   #173 
  - I don't mind that Obama said that to progressives, but I do mind  JDPriestly   Sep-29-10 12:40 PM   #175 
  - what would get me back into the fight:  bkozumplik   Sep-29-10 01:55 PM   #180 
  - I don't like voting for sellout Dems all the time.............  BlueJac   Sep-29-10 02:25 PM   #189 
  - Actually, seeing the entire passage, the "buck up" sentiment makes more sense.  mistertrickster   Sep-29-10 03:14 PM   #192 
  - It's funny how FDL has spent the last two years dogging Pres. Obama...  Drunken Irishman   Sep-29-10 03:48 PM   #196 
  - Mope?? Not doing that.  RandomThoughts   Sep-30-10 05:03 AM   #213 
  - can anyone here spell "malaise?"  librechik   Sep-30-10 01:34 PM   #218 
  - Public option. Openness. End tax-cuts. Lots of words were spoken.  WinkyDink   Sep-30-10 02:08 PM   #219 

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