Senator
(1000+ posts)
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Sat May-19-07 01:21 PM
Response to Reply #32 |
| 38. Comparing with Clinton is Oxymoronic |
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(Note: And BTW, it's exactly what the Euphemedia is training people to think/fear. So it is not my intent to single out this poster. In fact, this post is a cut and paste -- including this note.)
It's not just apples and oranges, the circumstances are diametrically opposite.
Clinton was a popular, twice-elected president -- impeached for less-than-trivial reasons -- by a party in danger of being seen as extremists (since having been proven).
Bushcheney is an unpopular, never-elected, never-legitimate regime -- being impeached for torture/war crimes, spying on Americans, and/or terrorizing the nation into war -- by a party that might be in danger of being seen as conscious or vertebrate (currently being disproven).
Realistically, we can expect "Reverse Clinton" results. Perhaps even on conviction/removal.
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Blowing a hole in the "WE DON'T HAVE THE VOTES" excuse |
radfringe |
May-19-07 08:16 AM |
#0 |

correct you are! Impeach the little sissy! |
8643 |
May-19-07 08:19 AM |
#1 |
 
wanna veto us Mr Bush? have a subpoena !! |
niceypoo |
May-20-07 11:46 AM |
#112 |

Good post -- the "we don't have the votes" cry is lame... |
Mr_Jefferson_24 |
May-19-07 08:22 AM |
#2 |
 
You nailed it! |
StarryNite |
May-19-07 03:35 PM |
#50 |
 
Fine |
wryter2000 |
May-20-07 11:55 AM |
#114 |

he's been doing that anyways |
radfringe |
May-20-07 02:22 PM |
#121 |
 
True |
wryter2000 |
May-20-07 02:54 PM |
#122 |

Huh? |
Mr_Jefferson_24 |
May-20-07 03:14 PM |
#123 |

Agreed - the smirk would make it all worthwhile |
Robson |
May-19-07 08:26 AM |
#3 |
 
You know putting Bush under oath will give them the rest of the votes. You know |
Maraya1969 |
May-19-07 12:32 PM |
#20 |
 
You think he's smirking now? |
JPettus |
May-20-07 04:21 AM |
#98 |

Welcome to DU |
wryter2000 |
May-20-07 12:02 PM |
#116 |

The House has the votes to impeach. It only takes a simple |
Rydz777 |
May-19-07 08:39 AM |
#4 |
 
have you counted the votes? |
onenote |
May-19-07 07:33 PM |
#62 |

Right. |
H2O Man |
May-19-07 08:48 AM |
#5 |
 
I disagree...Impeachment is ludicrous |
BigRed1975 |
May-19-07 09:22 AM |
#6 |
  
"Impeachment is ludicrous" |
H2O Man |
May-19-07 09:27 AM |
#7 |
  
Hi BigRed1975!! |
newyawker99 |
May-19-07 11:10 AM |
#9 |
   
Thanks for the welcome... |
BigRed1975 |
May-19-07 12:31 PM |
#18 |
  
sure... if by "ludicrous" you mean "imperative". . . . . . .n/t |
annabanana |
May-19-07 11:13 AM |
#10 |
   
Nope...I mean as in superfluous..... |
BigRed1975 |
May-19-07 12:32 PM |
#19 |
  
What is ludicrous is ignoring the criminal behavior |
proud2Blib |
May-19-07 11:24 AM |
#12 |
   
Why not censure instead of impeach? |
BigRed1975 |
May-19-07 12:36 PM |
#22 |
  
I disagree |
proud2Blib |
May-19-07 12:43 PM |
#23 |
   
Get back to me when a Republican rep gets the same kind of pressure.. |
BigRed1975 |
May-19-07 12:52 PM |
#27 |
  
HE IS A FUCKING CRIMINAL! |
proud2Blib |
May-19-07 01:01 PM |
#30 |
   
You really more concerned about revenge than justice... |
BigRed1975 |
May-19-07 01:13 PM |
#34 |
  
I wonder if the republicans asked that question |
proud2Blib |
May-19-07 01:18 PM |
#35 |
   
I am sure they didn't..... |
BigRed1975 |
May-19-07 01:19 PM |
#37 |
  
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Name removed |
May-19-07 10:41 PM |
#79 |
  
read the definition |
frogcycle |
May-20-07 01:18 AM |
#95 |
   
while i absolutely support impeachment, it would be wrong... |
tomp |
May-20-07 09:18 AM |
#103 |
  
agreed - to a point |
frogcycle |
May-20-07 09:44 AM |
#105 |
  
Maybe we should at least try. It is better than what this congress |
EV_Ares |
May-20-07 10:06 AM |
#107 |
  
We don't give a FUCK about what repug reps get pressured on. |
Ghost in the Machine |
May-19-07 02:20 PM |
#41 |
  
IF you want to get into a profanity contest.... |
BigRed1975 |
May-19-07 03:17 PM |
#47 |
  
Hoo Boy!! An internet tough guy! |
Ghost in the Machine |
May-19-07 03:33 PM |
#48 |
   
OK. I've got a 50. on you to rip Mr/Ms "Bitch-Slap's" head off. |
Lone_Star_Dem |
May-19-07 03:43 PM |
#51 |
    
LOL! Thanks for the vote of confidence. I just *love* keyboard commandos |
Ghost in the Machine |
May-19-07 03:49 PM |
#53 |
    
i want in on that action...$50.00 on GITM |
noiretblu |
May-19-07 05:45 PM |
#57 |
   
Deleted message |
Name removed |
May-19-07 07:24 PM |
#61 |
  
LOL!! Didn't *you* start with the threats? I thought it was funny, but |
Ghost in the Machine |
May-19-07 09:47 PM |
#74 |
  
.. |
d_b |
May-20-07 09:44 AM |
#104 |
  
So what do you call the repuke's impeachment of Clinton? He had 60% approval during the whole thing |
TankLV |
May-19-07 10:37 PM |
#78 |
  
The ONLY reason that the repubs were "rewarded" |
zalinda |
May-19-07 11:35 PM |
#87 |
  
"It will largely be viewed by the public" |
Toots |
May-19-07 11:32 AM |
#14 |
   
Not a pundit.... |
BigRed1975 |
May-19-07 12:48 PM |
#26 |
    
Why do you think he can't be removed? |
Usrename |
May-19-07 01:18 PM |
#36 |
     
I'll answer each of your questions |
BigRed1975 |
May-19-07 01:32 PM |
#39 |
      
How about these things, for an example. |
Usrename |
May-19-07 06:29 PM |
#59 |
      
That's the pug side of impeachment inaction yes. |
lonestarnot |
May-20-07 10:14 AM |
#108 |
     
he can't be removed because the repubs will never vote to remove him |
onenote |
May-19-07 07:41 PM |
#65 |
    
My analysis would be a little different than what you are saying. |
Usrename |
May-19-07 08:31 PM |
#69 |
    
I disagree. |
Independent_Liberal |
May-19-07 11:28 PM |
#86 |
    
from the outset, there was broad bi-partisan support for a nixon impeachment inquiry |
onenote |
May-20-07 12:22 AM |
#91 |
    
"Opinion" |
H2O Man |
May-19-07 04:53 PM |
#56 |
     
Impeachment was designed to be a political process. |
Usrename |
May-19-07 07:35 PM |
#63 |
    
While you are |
H2O Man |
May-19-07 08:46 PM |
#71 |
     
I think it's the old "I'll know it when I see it" answer. |
Usrename |
May-20-07 03:52 PM |
#126 |
    
A legal tool to check politics gone amok |
upi402 |
May-20-07 01:32 PM |
#119 |
    
A legal tool to check politics gone amok |
upi402 |
May-20-07 01:32 PM |
#120 |
    
We do know how to recognize trolls, however... |
TankLV |
May-19-07 10:49 PM |
#80 |
    
KKKarl, is that you? |
acmavm |
May-20-07 08:06 AM |
#102 |
   
They still don't get it, do they... They were looked on by the public as a |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
May-20-07 10:20 AM |
#110 |
  
Last time there was an impeachment |
rucky |
May-19-07 12:32 PM |
#21 |
   
It's about doing what is right |
proud2Blib |
May-19-07 12:44 PM |
#24 |
    
It's a no-brainer |
rucky |
May-19-07 12:47 PM |
#25 |
   
If I hear one more person say "it's about the numbers" |
proud2Blib |
May-19-07 12:53 PM |
#28 |
   
Don't forget the nearly 3,000 killed on 9/11 -- and how many dead in |
Beam Me Up |
May-19-07 02:38 PM |
#44 |
    
I think they are included in the count |
proud2Blib |
May-19-07 02:59 PM |
#46 |
    
Plus how many in New Orleans? |
Phredicles |
May-20-07 12:36 AM |
#92 |
   
Right -- and, yes, we've "jumped the shark" in more ways than one. n/t |
Beam Me Up |
May-20-07 01:16 PM |
#118 |
   
Yes! And I doubt they are accurate |
Golden Raisin |
May-19-07 11:09 PM |
#85 |
   
Actually the Cons did pay the price... |
BigRed1975 |
May-19-07 01:11 PM |
#32 |
  
Comparing with Clinton is Oxymoronic |
Senator |
May-19-07 01:21 PM |
#38 |
   
That is extremely tortured reasoning.... |
BigRed1975 |
May-19-07 01:54 PM |
#40 |
  
Ummmm... we were at war when they voted to impeach Clinton. |
Usrename |
May-19-07 06:08 PM |
#58 |
  
Welcome To DU BigRed! |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
May-19-07 08:44 PM |
#70 |
  
ahh - "pre 911 mindset" - another repuke talking point... |
TankLV |
May-19-07 10:55 PM |
#82 |
  
Extremely tortured? -- As opposed to what? |
Senator |
May-20-07 04:38 AM |
#99 |
  
ahh - now it's the "left wing" of the party... |
TankLV |
May-19-07 10:53 PM |
#81 |
  
History lesson is in order |
nadinbrzezinski |
May-20-07 03:56 PM |
#127 |
  
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend... |
greyhound1966 |
May-19-07 03:54 PM |
#54 |
   
No reply to this or to magellan's reply? What a surprise. n/t |
greyhound1966 |
May-20-07 03:29 PM |
#125 |
  
Thanks Big Red, and.. |
Dawgs |
May-19-07 08:15 PM |
#67 |
  
Vot a bonch off booolcheat |
ooglymoogly |
May-19-07 10:30 PM |
#76 |
  
"Congress is not responsible for enforcing or interpreting the laws of this country." |
magellan |
May-19-07 10:36 PM |
#77 |
  
Welcome to DU |
frogcycle |
May-20-07 01:10 AM |
#94 |
  
I see NewYawker already welcomed you |
wryter2000 |
May-20-07 11:58 AM |
#115 |
 
That is right. To serve justice we need to begin the process |
klyon |
May-19-07 01:06 PM |
#31 |
 
impeachment is both a legal process and a political process |
onenote |
May-19-07 07:36 PM |
#64 |

I was very willing |
H2O Man |
May-19-07 08:48 PM |
#72 |

inartfully worded on my part |
onenote |
May-19-07 11:54 PM |
#90 |

I want the government to get something done constructive |
dmordue |
May-19-07 10:33 AM |
#8 |
 
bringing impeachment to the floor of the House |
radfringe |
May-19-07 11:23 AM |
#11 |
  
Yes, let the national debate begin! |
pberq |
May-19-07 01:11 PM |
#33 |
 
Do you ever wonder if we would be where we are today |
proud2Blib |
May-19-07 11:25 AM |
#13 |

we'd be right where we are now... |
MonkeyFunk |
May-19-07 02:30 PM |
#43 |

IMO it's even more simple than that... |
elana i am |
May-19-07 12:16 PM |
#15 |

Because the "can't win; won't fight" excuse. . . |
pat_k |
May-19-07 12:20 PM |
#16 |

AMEN! |
Maraya1969 |
May-19-07 12:30 PM |
#17 |

Here are the "numbers" our chicken shit Dems to be reminded of: |
proud2Blib |
May-19-07 12:56 PM |
#29 |

Kicked and Recommended! It's NOT about the votes, or even if it's |
Ghost in the Machine |
May-19-07 02:24 PM |
#42 |

All the while the world is watching IMPEACH NOW! |
bonito |
May-19-07 02:38 PM |
#45 |

K&R |
sfexpat2000 |
May-19-07 03:34 PM |
#49 |

I am an impeachment hawk. I K&R this thread. |
Husb2Sparkly |
May-19-07 03:43 PM |
#52 |

50% in the House is all you need to Impeach and send it to the Senate for trial. |
dave123williams |
May-19-07 04:34 PM |
#55 |
 
I doubt we have the votes in the House |
onenote |
May-19-07 07:48 PM |
#66 |

Has it occurred to you that we might not have 18 months? |
dave123williams |
May-21-07 01:57 PM |
#128 |

There is one big reason to support impeachment of this regime that I never see mentioned anywhere. |
watrwefitinfor |
May-19-07 07:09 PM |
#60 |
 
Right ya are "This country needs an impeachment" if after their crimes are exposed |
Vincardog |
May-19-07 08:19 PM |
#68 |
 
Not only will people today learn how evil and corrupt Bush has been, but also |
Poiuyt |
May-19-07 09:25 PM |
#73 |
 
Thank you. YOU get it. If for no other reasons THAT is the the reason we MUST do it... |
TankLV |
May-19-07 11:03 PM |
#84 |
 
YES! I wish I could make a separate recommendation for this post. |
Phredicles |
May-20-07 12:41 AM |
#93 |
 
I Agree! Very well stated. |
No DUplicitous DUpe |
May-20-07 02:29 AM |
#96 |

They say Impeachment would tear the country apart |
YEBBA |
May-19-07 10:04 PM |
#75 |

best post and |
leftchick |
May-19-07 11:00 PM |
#83 |

K&R. (nt) |
Kurovski |
May-19-07 11:47 PM |
#88 |

Absolutely |
Time for change |
May-19-07 11:47 PM |
#89 |

k+r |
Progs Rock |
May-20-07 04:18 AM |
#97 |

just asking..... |
radfringe |
May-20-07 07:03 AM |
#100 |

Also, it is ours to lose when it comes to the 2008 presidential election too. |
Jamastiene |
May-20-07 07:23 AM |
#101 |

How can we vote them out -- they are doing little/nothing about election fraud. |
WA98296 |
May-20-07 09:58 AM |
#106 |

As far as I'm concerned.... |
Totally Committed |
May-20-07 10:17 AM |
#109 |

Good Post |
BlueJac |
May-20-07 10:46 AM |
#111 |

Because... |
wryter2000 |
May-20-07 11:53 AM |
#113 |

Agreed. Investigate, then impeach. |
sampsonblk |
May-20-07 12:05 PM |
#117 |

Becuase they get many shots at this |
nadinbrzezinski |
May-20-07 03:15 PM |
#124 |