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38. Comparing with Clinton is Oxymoronic
(Note: And BTW, it's exactly what the Euphemedia is training people to think/fear. So it is not my intent to single out this poster. In fact, this post is a cut and paste -- including this note.)

It's not just apples and oranges, the circumstances are diametrically opposite.

Clinton was a popular, twice-elected president -- impeached for less-than-trivial reasons -- by a party in danger of being seen as extremists (since having been proven).

Bushcheney is an unpopular, never-elected, never-legitimate regime -- being impeached for torture/war crimes, spying on Americans, and/or terrorizing the nation into war -- by a party that might be in danger of being seen as conscious or vertebrate (currently being disproven).

Realistically, we can expect "Reverse Clinton" results. Perhaps even on conviction/removal.

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  Blowing a hole in the "WE DON'T HAVE THE VOTES" excuse radfringe  May-19-07 08:16 AM   #0 
   correct you are! Impeach the little sissy!  8643   May-19-07 08:19 AM   #1 
   wanna veto us Mr Bush? have a subpoena !!  niceypoo   May-20-07 11:46 AM   #112 
   Good post -- the "we don't have the votes" cry is lame...  Mr_Jefferson_24   May-19-07 08:22 AM   #2 
   You nailed it!  StarryNite   May-19-07 03:35 PM   #50 
   Fine  wryter2000DU Moderator   May-20-07 11:55 AM   #114 
      he's been doing that anyways  radfringe   May-20-07 02:22 PM   #121 
      True  wryter2000DU Moderator   May-20-07 02:54 PM   #122 
      Huh?  Mr_Jefferson_24   May-20-07 03:14 PM   #123 
   Agreed - the smirk would make it all worthwhile  Robson   May-19-07 08:26 AM   #3 
   You know putting Bush under oath will give them the rest of the votes. You know  Maraya1969   May-19-07 12:32 PM   #20 
   You think he's smirking now?  JPettus   May-20-07 04:21 AM   #98 
      Welcome to DU  wryter2000DU Moderator   May-20-07 12:02 PM   #116 
   The House has the votes to impeach. It only takes a simple  Rydz777   May-19-07 08:39 AM   #4 
   have you counted the votes?  onenote   May-19-07 07:33 PM   #62 
   Right.  H2O Man   May-19-07 08:48 AM   #5 
   I disagree...Impeachment is ludicrous  BigRed1975   May-19-07 09:22 AM   #6 
   "Impeachment is ludicrous"  H2O Man   May-19-07 09:27 AM   #7 
   Hi BigRed1975!!  newyawker99   May-19-07 11:10 AM   #9 
   Thanks for the welcome...  BigRed1975   May-19-07 12:31 PM   #18 
   sure... if by "ludicrous" you mean "imperative". . . . . . .n/t  annabanana   May-19-07 11:13 AM   #10 
   Nope...I mean as in superfluous.....  BigRed1975   May-19-07 12:32 PM   #19 
   What is ludicrous is ignoring the criminal behavior  proud2Blib   May-19-07 11:24 AM   #12 
   Why not censure instead of impeach?  BigRed1975   May-19-07 12:36 PM   #22 
      I disagree  proud2Blib   May-19-07 12:43 PM   #23 
      Get back to me when a Republican rep gets the same kind of pressure..  BigRed1975   May-19-07 12:52 PM   #27 
         HE IS A FUCKING CRIMINAL!  proud2Blib   May-19-07 01:01 PM   #30 
         You really more concerned about revenge than justice...  BigRed1975   May-19-07 01:13 PM   #34 
            I wonder if the republicans asked that question  proud2Blib   May-19-07 01:18 PM   #35 
            I am sure they didn't.....  BigRed1975   May-19-07 01:19 PM   #37 
            Deleted message  Name removed   May-19-07 10:41 PM   #79 
            read the definition  frogcycle   May-20-07 01:18 AM   #95 
            while i absolutely support impeachment, it would be wrong...  tomp   May-20-07 09:18 AM   #103 
               agreed - to a point  frogcycle   May-20-07 09:44 AM   #105 
            Maybe we should at least try. It is better than what this congress  EV_Ares   May-20-07 10:06 AM   #107 
         We don't give a FUCK about what repug reps get pressured on.  Ghost in the Machine   May-19-07 02:20 PM   #41 
            IF you want to get into a profanity contest....  BigRed1975   May-19-07 03:17 PM   #47 
               Hoo Boy!! An internet tough guy!  Ghost in the Machine   May-19-07 03:33 PM   #48 
               OK. I've got a 50. on you to rip Mr/Ms "Bitch-Slap's" head off.  Lone_Star_Dem   May-19-07 03:43 PM   #51 
               LOL! Thanks for the vote of confidence. I just *love* keyboard commandos  Ghost in the Machine   May-19-07 03:49 PM   #53 
               i want in on that action...$50.00 on GITM  noiretblu   May-19-07 05:45 PM   #57 
               Deleted message  Name removed   May-19-07 07:24 PM   #61 
                  LOL!! Didn't *you* start with the threats? I thought it was funny, but  Ghost in the Machine   May-19-07 09:47 PM   #74 
               ..  d_b   May-20-07 09:44 AM   #104 
      So what do you call the repuke's impeachment of Clinton? He had 60% approval during the whole thing  TankLV   May-19-07 10:37 PM   #78 
         The ONLY reason that the repubs were "rewarded"  zalinda   May-19-07 11:35 PM   #87 
   "It will largely be viewed by the public"  Toots   May-19-07 11:32 AM   #14 
   Not a pundit....  BigRed1975   May-19-07 12:48 PM   #26 
   Why do you think he can't be removed?  Usrename   May-19-07 01:18 PM   #36 
   I'll answer each of your questions  BigRed1975   May-19-07 01:32 PM   #39 
   How about these things, for an example.  Usrename   May-19-07 06:29 PM   #59 
   That's the pug side of impeachment inaction yes.  lonestarnot   May-20-07 10:14 AM   #108 
   he can't be removed because the repubs will never vote to remove him  onenote   May-19-07 07:41 PM   #65 
      My analysis would be a little different than what you are saying.  Usrename   May-19-07 08:31 PM   #69 
      I disagree.  Independent_Liberal   May-19-07 11:28 PM   #86 
         from the outset, there was broad bi-partisan support for a nixon impeachment inquiry  onenote   May-20-07 12:22 AM   #91 
   "Opinion"  H2O Man   May-19-07 04:53 PM   #56 
   Impeachment was designed to be a political process.  Usrename   May-19-07 07:35 PM   #63 
      While you are  H2O Man   May-19-07 08:46 PM   #71 
      I think it's the old "I'll know it when I see it" answer.  Usrename   May-20-07 03:52 PM   #126 
      A legal tool to check politics gone amok  upi402   May-20-07 01:32 PM   #119 
      A legal tool to check politics gone amok  upi402   May-20-07 01:32 PM   #120 
   We do know how to recognize trolls, however...  TankLV   May-19-07 10:49 PM   #80 
   KKKarl, is that you?  acmavm   May-20-07 08:06 AM   #102 
   They still don't get it, do they... They were looked on by the public as a  KCabotDullesMarxIII   May-20-07 10:20 AM   #110 
   Last time there was an impeachment  rucky   May-19-07 12:32 PM   #21 
   It's about doing what is right  proud2Blib   May-19-07 12:44 PM   #24 
   It's a no-brainer  rucky   May-19-07 12:47 PM   #25 
      If I hear one more person say "it's about the numbers"  proud2Blib   May-19-07 12:53 PM   #28 
         Don't forget the nearly 3,000 killed on 9/11 -- and how many dead in  Beam Me Up   May-19-07 02:38 PM   #44 
         I think they are included in the count  proud2Blib   May-19-07 02:59 PM   #46 
         Plus how many in New Orleans?  Phredicles   May-20-07 12:36 AM   #92 
            Right -- and, yes, we've "jumped the shark" in more ways than one. n/t  Beam Me Up   May-20-07 01:16 PM   #118 
         Yes! And I doubt they are accurate  Golden Raisin   May-19-07 11:09 PM   #85 
   Actually the Cons did pay the price...  BigRed1975   May-19-07 01:11 PM   #32 
      Comparing with Clinton is Oxymoronic  Senator   May-19-07 01:21 PM   #38 
      That is extremely tortured reasoning....  BigRed1975   May-19-07 01:54 PM   #40 
         Ummmm... we were at war when they voted to impeach Clinton.  Usrename   May-19-07 06:08 PM   #58 
         Welcome To DU BigRed!  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   May-19-07 08:44 PM   #70 
         ahh - "pre 911 mindset" - another repuke talking point...  TankLV   May-19-07 10:55 PM   #82 
         Extremely tortured? -- As opposed to what?  Senator   May-20-07 04:38 AM   #99 
      ahh - now it's the "left wing" of the party...  TankLV   May-19-07 10:53 PM   #81 
      History lesson is in order  nadinbrzezinski   May-20-07 03:56 PM   #127 
   "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend...  greyhound1966   May-19-07 03:54 PM   #54 
   No reply to this or to magellan's reply? What a surprise. n/t  greyhound1966   May-20-07 03:29 PM   #125 
   Thanks Big Red, and..  Dawgs   May-19-07 08:15 PM   #67 
   Vot a bonch off booolcheat  ooglymoogly   May-19-07 10:30 PM   #76 
   "Congress is not responsible for enforcing or interpreting the laws of this country."  magellan   May-19-07 10:36 PM   #77 
   Welcome to DU  frogcycle   May-20-07 01:10 AM   #94 
   I see NewYawker already welcomed you  wryter2000DU Moderator   May-20-07 11:58 AM   #115 
   That is right. To serve justice we need to begin the process  klyon   May-19-07 01:06 PM   #31 
   impeachment is both a legal process and a political process  onenote   May-19-07 07:36 PM   #64 
      I was very willing  H2O Man   May-19-07 08:48 PM   #72 
         inartfully worded on my part  onenote   May-19-07 11:54 PM   #90 
   I want the government to get something done constructive  dmordue   May-19-07 10:33 AM   #8 
   bringing impeachment to the floor of the House  radfringe   May-19-07 11:23 AM   #11 
   Yes, let the national debate begin!  pberq   May-19-07 01:11 PM   #33 
   Do you ever wonder if we would be where we are today  proud2Blib   May-19-07 11:25 AM   #13 
      we'd be right where we are now...  MonkeyFunk   May-19-07 02:30 PM   #43 
   IMO it's even more simple than that...  elana i am   May-19-07 12:16 PM   #15 
   Because the "can't win; won't fight" excuse. . .  pat_k   May-19-07 12:20 PM   #16 
   AMEN!  Maraya1969   May-19-07 12:30 PM   #17 
   Here are the "numbers" our chicken shit Dems to be reminded of:  proud2Blib   May-19-07 12:56 PM   #29 
   Kicked and Recommended! It's NOT about the votes, or even if it's  Ghost in the Machine   May-19-07 02:24 PM   #42 
   All the while the world is watching IMPEACH NOW!  bonito   May-19-07 02:38 PM   #45 
   K&R  sfexpat2000   May-19-07 03:34 PM   #49 
   I am an impeachment hawk. I K&R this thread.  Husb2Sparkly   May-19-07 03:43 PM   #52 
   50% in the House is all you need to Impeach and send it to the Senate for trial.  dave123williams   May-19-07 04:34 PM   #55 
   I doubt we have the votes in the House  onenote   May-19-07 07:48 PM   #66 
      Has it occurred to you that we might not have 18 months?  dave123williams   May-21-07 01:57 PM   #128 
   There is one big reason to support impeachment of this regime that I never see mentioned anywhere.  watrwefitinfor   May-19-07 07:09 PM   #60 
   Right ya are "This country needs an impeachment" if after their crimes are exposed  Vincardog   May-19-07 08:19 PM   #68 
   Not only will people today learn how evil and corrupt Bush has been, but also  Poiuyt   May-19-07 09:25 PM   #73 
   Thank you. YOU get it. If for no other reasons THAT is the the reason we MUST do it...  TankLV   May-19-07 11:03 PM   #84 
   YES! I wish I could make a separate recommendation for this post.  Phredicles   May-20-07 12:41 AM   #93 
   I Agree! Very well stated.  No DUplicitous DUpe   May-20-07 02:29 AM   #96 
   They say Impeachment would tear the country apart  YEBBA   May-19-07 10:04 PM   #75 
   best post and  leftchick   May-19-07 11:00 PM   #83 
   K&R. (nt)  Kurovski   May-19-07 11:47 PM   #88 
   Absolutely  Time for change   May-19-07 11:47 PM   #89 
   k+r  Progs Rock   May-20-07 04:18 AM   #97 
   just asking.....  radfringe   May-20-07 07:03 AM   #100 
   Also, it is ours to lose when it comes to the 2008 presidential election too.  Jamastiene   May-20-07 07:23 AM   #101 
   How can we vote them out -- they are doing little/nothing about election fraud.  WA98296   May-20-07 09:58 AM   #106 
   As far as I'm concerned....  Totally Committed   May-20-07 10:17 AM   #109 
   Good Post  BlueJac   May-20-07 10:46 AM   #111 
   Because...  wryter2000DU Moderator   May-20-07 11:53 AM   #113 
   Agreed. Investigate, then impeach.  sampsonblk   May-20-07 12:05 PM   #117 
   Becuase they get many shots at this  nadinbrzezinski   May-20-07 03:15 PM   #124 
 

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