| -Krugman: there’s an almost compulsive aspect to the WH’s alienation of supporters |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Sep-21-10 05:45 PM |
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There's an almost compulsive aspect to certain progressives... |
regnaD kciN |
Sep-21-10 05:47 PM |
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A refreshingly original sentiment |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Sep-21-10 05:49 PM |
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just like the OP |
Uzybone |
Sep-21-10 05:50 PM |
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Do you still "love Krugman"? |
Forkboy |
Sep-21-10 05:55 PM |
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yep |
Uzybone |
Sep-21-10 05:56 PM |
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You're a consistent man then! |
Forkboy |
Sep-21-10 06:03 PM |
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YES. |
aquart |
Sep-22-10 11:27 AM |
#249 |
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I like him |
creon |
Sep-22-10 05:57 PM |
#362 |
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dupe |
Uzybone |
Sep-21-10 05:51 PM |
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Notice how the poster dropped the bomb and ran. nm |
rhett o rick |
Sep-22-10 01:41 PM |
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Apparently that's the best you got... |
joeybee12 |
Sep-21-10 05:53 PM |
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Yes, but that's what passes for centrist commentary on DU these days. |
Raster |
Sep-22-10 10:34 AM |
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There's an almost compulsive aspect to certain Democratic ... |
earthside |
Sep-21-10 05:56 PM |
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Well said! +100 n/t |
bluethruandthru |
Sep-22-10 07:36 AM |
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+1000 |
pleah |
Sep-22-10 08:59 AM |
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1000 + 1 |
Just-plain-Kathy |
Sep-22-10 04:21 PM |
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Let's do the math: 1000 + 2! |
Land Shark |
Sep-22-10 04:40 PM |
#353 |
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And 1000 + 3 |
MissDeeds |
Sep-22-10 05:11 PM |
#354 |
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Thank you! |
Raster |
Sep-22-10 10:34 AM |
#231 |
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+999 |
L0oniX |
Sep-22-10 10:48 AM |
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I can'r even guess |
Jackpine Radical |
Sep-22-10 02:09 PM |
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Thank you! +1 |
Joe Fields |
Sep-22-10 11:37 AM |
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Yup -- talk is cheap and easy. Walking the walk, not so much. [n/t] |
stranger81 |
Sep-22-10 12:10 PM |
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It's hard work! |
Cherchez la Femme |
Sep-22-10 04:13 PM |
#349 |
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You mean the Rick Warren "get-go"? nm |
rhett o rick |
Sep-22-10 01:57 PM |
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snark warning |
lark |
Sep-22-10 02:49 PM |
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Actually, the Obama administration seems hellbent on alienating us |
tavalon |
Sep-21-10 06:48 PM |
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Actually, the Obama administration seems hellbent on alienating us |
AlbertCat |
Sep-22-10 11:38 AM |
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Yeah thats the ticket... |
humbled_opinion |
Sep-22-10 04:05 PM |
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You say you don't feel alienated |
tavalon |
Sep-22-10 11:38 PM |
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Yea...I was on Obama's website... |
wuvuj |
Sep-21-10 07:35 PM |
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There's an almost compulsive aspect to certain DUers |
PVnRT |
Sep-21-10 07:52 PM |
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You must have proof of that piece of hyperbole or surely you would not |
sabrina 1 |
Sep-21-10 07:57 PM |
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+1000 nt |
laughingliberal |
Sep-22-10 12:45 AM |
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How dare anyone.. |
sendero |
Sep-21-10 08:45 PM |
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The best way to prove what a cool independent thinking progressive you are |
Radical Activist |
Sep-21-10 10:20 PM |
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once again with your baseless assertion that.... |
tomp |
Sep-22-10 05:37 AM |
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You are a |
Enthusiast |
Sep-22-10 08:17 AM |
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lol |
closeupready |
Sep-22-10 10:51 AM |
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Many issues. |
Radical Activist |
Sep-22-10 02:59 PM |
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Okay, just wondering...nt |
Enthusiast |
Sep-23-10 08:17 AM |
#394 |
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Oh, man... |
Cherchez la Femme |
Sep-22-10 04:17 PM |
#350 |
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if there is ONE thing I could change about DU... |
tomp |
Sep-22-10 05:47 PM |
#358 |
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At least the Che avatar is gone. |
QC |
Sep-22-10 07:09 PM |
#372 |
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True |
Cherchez la Femme |
Sep-22-10 09:47 PM |
#387 |
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Me too |
Cherchez la Femme |
Sep-22-10 09:51 PM |
#388 |
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Would be nice to see Obama dumping the corporates ... that would be refreshing ....!! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-22-10 10:09 AM |
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Nah. A poll just came out saying Business feels unloved. |
aquart |
Sep-22-10 11:30 AM |
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Evidently, that shocked the corporate-DLC/Rahm who thought "business should be grateful" to Obama!! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-22-10 01:50 PM |
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Didn't we attack Bush for surrounding himself with like-minded yes-men? |
Radical Activist |
Sep-22-10 02:51 PM |
#329 |
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it's even better calling yourself Radical Activist |
stranger81 |
Sep-22-10 12:12 PM |
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The failure to hate Obama doesn't make one a centrist. |
Radical Activist |
Sep-22-10 02:47 PM |
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Agreed. It's staking out centrist positions on every conceivable issue |
stranger81 |
Sep-22-10 02:56 PM |
#330 |
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Like my post yesterday |
Radical Activist |
Sep-22-10 03:05 PM |
#336 |
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Sad that some people think that blind fawning is required |
lark |
Sep-22-10 02:56 PM |
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Being gullible about believing any claim a pundit or blogger makes |
Radical Activist |
Sep-22-10 03:08 PM |
#337 |
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Another reader of minds except everyone knows |
sabrina 1 |
Sep-22-10 02:39 PM |
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Imagine that - progressives that actually want real change when promised |
slay |
Sep-21-10 11:51 PM |
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I think your post tells us more about your own compulsions to erect strawmen... |
liberation |
Sep-22-10 05:37 AM |
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The premise of your response |
dotymed |
Sep-22-10 07:07 AM |
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Why would progressives come out against the obama |
molly77 |
Sep-22-10 07:18 AM |
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I especially mark what |
Cherchez la Femme |
Sep-22-10 09:01 PM |
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If I recall at the get go |
molly77 |
Sep-22-10 07:23 AM |
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Hmmm. You've got something there. |
Missy Vixen |
Sep-22-10 05:54 PM |
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In Many Ways |
NashVegas |
Sep-22-10 07:42 AM |
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How absurd. |
Enthusiast |
Sep-22-10 08:08 AM |
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Obama's turning government over to Republicans and pro-corporates is what |
defendandprotect |
Sep-22-10 10:05 AM |
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+1000 |
BrklynLiberal |
Sep-22-10 02:58 PM |
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What.the.hell.ever - don't blame the progressives for any of this |
LaurenG |
Sep-22-10 10:17 AM |
#226 |
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+++++++++1000 |
BrklynLiberal |
Sep-22-10 03:03 PM |
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That is completely false |
Demeter |
Sep-22-10 11:57 AM |
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You might find life a little easier if you would recognize some Truths |
ProudDad |
Sep-22-10 01:16 PM |
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I am not sure what your motive is in this post but it makes no sense. |
rhett o rick |
Sep-22-10 01:38 PM |
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tough times |
creon |
Sep-23-10 07:50 AM |
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The left is mostly in the pocket- MSM says he is on the left- so he is running to the middle |
underpants |
Sep-21-10 05:49 PM |
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The DFHs are not Obama's base |
Uzybone |
Sep-21-10 05:50 PM |
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It is an ironic term |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Sep-21-10 05:52 PM |
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its an insulting term |
Uzybone |
Sep-21-10 05:55 PM |
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THAT LoGo Is Simply DISGUSTING To Me!! I Saw It Recently & Someone |
ChiciB1 |
Sep-21-10 06:09 PM |
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swallow your disgust for the logo and vote Dem in Nov. |
Uzybone |
Sep-21-10 06:13 PM |
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Add that to the long list of things to swallow I guess... |
liberation |
Sep-22-10 05:43 AM |
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I have been swallowing for 40 years, How long have you swallowed? |
flyarm |
Sep-22-10 08:08 AM |
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Not Quite As Many Years! But Close! As A Democrat All I Can Say Is |
ChiciB1 |
Sep-22-10 10:53 AM |
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My gag reflex is precluding swallowing a lot of this BS |
MissDeeds |
Sep-22-10 06:04 PM |
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I, too, really hate that logo. |
Blue_In_AK |
Sep-21-10 06:19 PM |
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zOMG!!! elventyshfiftyfive!!!!11111!!! |
JTFrog |
Sep-21-10 06:22 PM |
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D For Forward, R For Backward... STILL Doesn't Make The LOGO Any |
ChiciB1 |
Sep-22-10 11:12 AM |
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NOTHING? |
freebrew |
Sep-22-10 12:33 PM |
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Its going to be a windy vote, with gusts blowing every which way... |
earcandle |
Sep-22-10 03:03 AM |
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I find that logo repulsive as well..it reminds me of propaganda ..like the Obama logo looked like |
flyarm |
Sep-22-10 08:12 AM |
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ok, what is dfh? |
tomp |
Sep-22-10 05:39 AM |
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Dirty Fucking Hippies |
Raster |
Sep-22-10 10:40 AM |
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hmm his administration has attacked Unions and women, and oh by the way, many women are in unions! |
flyarm |
Sep-22-10 08:01 AM |
#196 |
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You Betcha... Beer Bong Games Are What's Happening With Them These Days! |
ChiciB1 |
Sep-22-10 11:23 AM |
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Or putting up Ron Paul stickers... (n/t) |
ProudDad |
Sep-22-10 01:25 PM |
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DFH is not a generation. It's a state of mind. |
Lilith Velkor |
Sep-22-10 04:21 PM |
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Well, This DFH, |
RobinA |
Sep-22-10 11:41 AM |
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.... |
BrklynLiberal |
Sep-22-10 02:59 PM |
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Haven't even read through the rest of the posts yet but have to K and R yours! nt |
riderinthestorm |
Sep-22-10 09:55 PM |
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After the house burns down |
ProudDad |
Sep-22-10 01:23 PM |
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HUGE K & R !!! |
WillyT |
Sep-21-10 05:52 PM |
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Krugman! |
chill_wind |
Sep-21-10 05:55 PM |
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Saw him in the movie - "Get Him To The Greek" the other day |
slay |
Sep-21-10 11:53 PM |
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:-) "My dad loves your shit." |
chill_wind |
Sep-22-10 03:24 AM |
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Yeah, that was cool. |
sheldon |
Sep-22-10 01:13 PM |
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Aww I thought it was pretty hilarious |
slay |
Sep-22-10 08:15 PM |
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I find it sadly ironic that some here easily dismiss Obama's slights to the left |
DJ13 |
Sep-21-10 05:57 PM |
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You know what's really important |
ProSense |
Sep-21-10 06:18 PM |
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No. It's because Feingold is being targeted by the Republicans. |
EFerrari |
Sep-22-10 12:40 AM |
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+ 1 million!! I just read about it !!..great Job Obama and team Obama! not! eom |
flyarm |
Sep-22-10 08:13 AM |
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.. and probably by the DLC corporates ... !! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-22-10 10:14 AM |
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The Republicans know exactly what they're doing. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Sep-22-10 11:46 AM |
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Precisely. n/t |
EFerrari |
Sep-22-10 01:01 PM |
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You would be the first person I would come to about nonsense! You are king of it! eom |
flyarm |
Sep-22-10 08:15 AM |
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Feingold is just collateral damage, due to the ire of many dems |
Joe Fields |
Sep-22-10 02:22 PM |
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As a person who voted for him, |
Dappleganger |
Sep-21-10 05:59 PM |
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Note that the OP is the quintessence of Constructive Criticism: |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Sep-21-10 06:01 PM |
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He's right, but it might be time to get a NEW ball. This one seems to bounce to the right a lot. |
Exilednight |
Sep-21-10 06:13 PM |
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You forgot the this point |
ProSense |
Sep-21-10 06:22 PM |
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You will note that I put it in bold in the OP |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Sep-21-10 06:24 PM |
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Health insurance reform is a real tweak, not a real change. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Sep-22-10 11:54 AM |
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I agree with both those premises. |
Hello_Kitty |
Sep-21-10 07:09 PM |
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Krugman is assuming that the apathetic portion of Obama's "base" knows who Jack Lew is. |
BzaDem |
Sep-21-10 06:02 PM |
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Can't win elections without those people. |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Sep-21-10 06:07 PM |
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I think the people you are talking about fit into my first category. |
BzaDem |
Sep-21-10 06:22 PM |
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Winning elections depends on whether your base gets the vote out. |
JDPriestly |
Sep-22-10 01:20 AM |
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It works like this. If the DLC corporatists currently in the drivers seat is attacking the base then |
w4rma |
Sep-21-10 07:47 PM |
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When I read the constant allegations on DU that the "Left" is the group that does the work |
suzie |
Sep-22-10 07:06 AM |
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I have lived in 9 states and have worked on campaigns for 40 years..the Left has always been the |
flyarm |
Sep-22-10 08:24 AM |
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I've in 8 states and worked on campaigns for 40 years. |
suzie |
Sep-22-10 01:24 PM |
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Believe me, if "the left" did NOT show up, you'd notice. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Sep-22-10 12:15 PM |
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Perhaps I didn't clarify enough. I said "the Left that is spoken about" meaning those |
suzie |
Sep-22-10 01:38 PM |
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Well, here's a clue - |
RaleighNCDUer |
Sep-22-10 01:49 PM |
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Guess there are some things that haven't changed in 40 years--males telling females that |
suzie |
Sep-23-10 07:35 AM |
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It is a current example |
zipplewrath |
Sep-22-10 07:29 AM |
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Right ... did the article repeat it? Think Lew is an ex-CITICORP EXEC--??? |
defendandprotect |
Sep-22-10 10:15 AM |
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Lew, the head of Citigroup's Alternative Investments? |
RaleighNCDUer |
Sep-22-10 12:10 PM |
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K&R |
Jamastiene |
Sep-21-10 06:06 PM |
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"Obama has brought real change — above all, health reform" |
ProSense |
Sep-21-10 06:07 PM |
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Obama ridiculing the new for universal health care is pathetic ... not a slight ... |
defendandprotect |
Sep-22-10 10:18 AM |
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Ya Know What? My Son's Insurance Company Just Raised His Premiums To |
ChiciB1 |
Sep-22-10 11:38 AM |
#255 |
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Funny, I don't feel alienated. So how many national elections has Krugman won? Oh, none. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-21-10 06:10 PM |
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"Funny, I don't feel alienated." |
Forkboy |
Sep-21-10 06:28 PM |
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Thanks for the vote of confidence. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-21-10 06:33 PM |
#35 |
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Anytime. |
Forkboy |
Sep-21-10 06:40 PM |
#36 |
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Just thought I'd get it out there that I and my OFA group don't feel a bit "alienated". |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-21-10 06:57 PM |
#39 |
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I'm sure you had time to consult with them. |
Forkboy |
Sep-21-10 07:01 PM |
#40 |
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Don't have to. I GOTV with them regularly, unlike some people. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-21-10 07:06 PM |
#43 |
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You got to be kidding. |
Forkboy |
Sep-21-10 07:15 PM |
#48 |
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You should probably put down the reefer. n/t |
BzaDem |
Sep-21-10 08:52 PM |
#64 |
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LOL...even you can do better than that. |
Forkboy |
Sep-21-10 09:08 PM |
#66 |
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Given the "competition," the bar for me "having to do better" is pretty low. |
BzaDem |
Sep-21-10 09:10 PM |
#68 |
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Yeah, no shit! |
Forkboy |
Sep-21-10 09:12 PM |
#69 |
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Did you note the OP about the DUer whose dog had died? |
Fumesucker |
Sep-21-10 07:02 PM |
#41 |
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LOL....that's just bad fiction!!!! |
Forkboy |
Sep-21-10 07:05 PM |
#42 |
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I couldn't find that emoticon.. |
Fumesucker |
Sep-21-10 07:15 PM |
#47 |
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Well, he believed my post, so there's hope for yours. |
Forkboy |
Sep-21-10 07:17 PM |
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+1 |
harun |
Sep-22-10 07:05 AM |
#175 |
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I'm in a WEALTH CYCLE! |
PassingFair |
Sep-22-10 08:04 AM |
#197 |
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If I thought they actually believed this crap, I'd worry that much about the lack of |
Greyhound |
Sep-22-10 10:12 AM |
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Sep-21-10 06:32 PM |
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it is not funny that you don't feel alienated |
Skittles |
Sep-21-10 07:07 PM |
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lol! "downright PATHETIC" = 24/7 attacks that are aimed at Pres. Obama & his supporters |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-21-10 08:50 PM |
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Well, it's in bold, so I'm a believer. |
Forkboy |
Sep-21-10 09:09 PM |
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I am not convinced yet, I need to see more circular self referring blue links... |
liberation |
Sep-22-10 05:48 AM |
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Sep-21-10 07:55 PM |
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Sep-21-10 06:50 PM |
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Sep-21-10 07:08 PM |
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Why would you think the OP doesn't support Dems? n/t |
BzaDem |
Sep-21-10 07:16 PM |
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There's a compulsive aspect to this kind of traitor accusation |
carolinayellowdog |
Sep-21-10 07:42 PM |
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Yeah, ol' DU has changed alright! |
JNelson6563 |
Sep-21-10 07:59 PM |
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+1 |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-21-10 08:41 PM |
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I'm going to keep posting right here. |
Forkboy |
Sep-21-10 09:24 PM |
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Wow! |
Le Taz Hot |
Sep-22-10 07:28 AM |
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I was here for the lovefest, not the hatefest-- and it's OVER, GONE |
carolinayellowdog |
Sep-22-10 09:12 AM |
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Yep. Ironically, the would-be enforcers hurt the Party more than critics. |
DirkGently |
Sep-21-10 08:57 PM |
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There are real haters here, and they're obvious |
carolinayellowdog |
Sep-21-10 09:16 PM |
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Actually, 24/7 "critics" hurt the Party more than its supporters, especially now before the midterms |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-21-10 09:34 PM |
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Sorry, but that's wrong. "Boots on the ground doesn't mean "boots on Democrats' necks." |
DirkGently |
Sep-21-10 09:44 PM |
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Throwing out red herrings and making strawman arguments doesn't obscure my salient points. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-21-10 09:50 PM |
#76 |
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Boy, that was generic. Do you, or do you not, get that yelling at Democrats to shut up NEVER works? |
DirkGently |
Sep-21-10 09:52 PM |
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No, "that" was true. And who's the one "yelling" here? I'm not the one using large caps. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-21-10 09:55 PM |
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Just trying to help you understand the rather simple concept that attacking (as you've done again) |
DirkGently |
Sep-21-10 10:02 PM |
#80 |
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Another red herring. More strawman arguments. How predictable. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-21-10 10:12 PM |
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I don't think either of those terms mean what you think they do. |
liberation |
Sep-22-10 05:55 AM |
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You'd be wrong. Why don't you tell me what you "don't think" I "think"? |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-22-10 10:34 AM |
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You seem incapable of getting it - we ARE the Democratic party. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Sep-22-10 12:47 PM |
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+10000 nt |
Mojorabbit |
Sep-21-10 11:53 PM |
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Sep-22-10 08:39 AM |
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Interesting that rather than take Krugman's observation to heart |
depakid |
Sep-21-10 07:24 PM |
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Someone had to say it. |
mmonk |
Sep-21-10 07:32 PM |
#52 |
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Another example today. The WH is considering a prominent corporate CEO to replace Summers. |
laughingliberal |
Sep-21-10 07:49 PM |
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Uh huh. I suppose Elizabeth Warren's appointment to the WH inner circle is just a fluke? |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-21-10 09:20 PM |
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Actually, that's a good thing. Other things aren't so good. Can you agree with this principle? |
DirkGently |
Sep-21-10 09:53 PM |
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Yes. Prime rib is "a good thing. Other things" such as chicken liver "aren't so good." |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-21-10 10:03 PM |
#81 |
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Nice dodge. Do you think *any* criticism is fair, or not? Examples? |
DirkGently |
Sep-21-10 10:04 PM |
#82 |
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Tsk, tsk. Something as important as "principle" cannot suddenly be a "nice dodge". |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-21-10 10:14 PM |
#86 |
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So, you can't acknowledge a single valid criticism. Speaks volumes. |
DirkGently |
Sep-21-10 10:25 PM |
#89 |
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Well, I'm outraged that Pres. Obama doesn't make more jokes about the idiots who criticize him 24/7. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-21-10 11:00 PM |
#103 |
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Sep-22-10 06:00 AM |
#173 |
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That's what I always thought as well. Dems leave partisan hackery to the RW. |
DirkGently |
Sep-22-10 10:43 AM |
#236 |
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Actually it remains to be seen how much (if any) real power that she'll have |
depakid |
Sep-21-10 10:06 PM |
#83 |
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A valid concern. Just trying to give the benefit of the doubt. |
DirkGently |
Sep-21-10 10:07 PM |
#84 |
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Your rhetoric is baseless speculation that is contradicted by Elizabeth Warren and Pres. Obama. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-21-10 10:44 PM |
#94 |
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It's not rhetoric nor is it speculation- only time (and actions) will tell |
depakid |
Sep-21-10 10:49 PM |
#97 |
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Sure it is. The facts already contradict your baseless rhetoric, as I've already proven. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-21-10 11:06 PM |
#108 |
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That's just a bizarre response and no, you haven't "proven" anything |
depakid |
Sep-21-10 11:31 PM |
#120 |
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lol! Keep spinning. I linked to credible news sources which you promptly ignored. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-22-10 12:52 AM |
#146 |
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"Why do you spend so much time on a site that supports Democrats?" |
depakid |
Sep-22-10 03:12 AM |
#162 |
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You seem to dislike all of the Democratic legislative efforts under this Democratic president. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-22-10 11:10 AM |
#243 |
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McCall & Morse = Republicans. Jeff Merkley has never called Pres. Obama "politically pathological". |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-22-10 11:47 AM |
#264 |
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That belies so much misunderstanding that one is hard pressed to know how to respond |
depakid |
Sep-22-10 09:10 PM |
#384 |
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She'll be a "special adviser" |
Art_from_Ark |
Sep-21-10 11:38 PM |
#122 |
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I hope it's not being the one who serves the coffee and doughnuts... |
KoKo |
Sep-22-10 07:45 AM |
#193 |
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It does seem a bit odd |
Art_from_Ark |
Sep-23-10 08:59 PM |
#399 |
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I'm glad Warren got some position where she may be allowed some power. It does remain to be seen. |
laughingliberal |
Sep-21-10 10:46 PM |
#95 |
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No, it's already been "seen" what she can do. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-21-10 11:15 PM |
#112 |
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It does remain to be seen what changes to policy will result. I'm glad she has a role. |
laughingliberal |
Sep-22-10 12:08 AM |
#135 |
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Did you read any of the facts I keep giving you on what she's doing now? |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-22-10 11:52 AM |
#266 |
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You do understand how "tackling an issue" and "accomplishing" something |
RaleighNCDUer |
Sep-22-10 01:00 PM |
#295 |
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I support the president's appointment of Warren. Do you? nm |
rhett o rick |
Sep-22-10 02:07 PM |
#322 |
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K&R |
highplainsdem |
Sep-21-10 09:18 PM |
#71 |
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Actually, he does to dog whistle politics. |
Radical Activist |
Sep-21-10 10:25 PM |
#88 |
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What do you think of the piece? Are the jabs at "the professional left" constructive? |
DirkGently |
Sep-21-10 10:27 PM |
#90 |
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There were pundits who deserved to be called out for their bullshit. |
Radical Activist |
Sep-21-10 10:31 PM |
#91 |
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But they do generally speak for liberals. Was it wise to glibly generalize and dismiss them? |
DirkGently |
Sep-21-10 10:52 PM |
#99 |
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No, they really don't speak for liberals. |
Radical Activist |
Sep-21-10 10:55 PM |
#100 |
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Since when do you speak for |
Le Taz Hot |
Sep-22-10 07:39 AM |
#187 |
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Obviously, despite all evidence, he calls himself a 'liberal'. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Sep-22-10 01:07 PM |
#297 |
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So..where are your polling statistics about who liberals are and who and what they support? |
KoKo |
Sep-22-10 07:46 AM |
#194 |
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Every poll on the topic has the same result. |
Radical Activist |
Sep-22-10 10:56 AM |
#242 |
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Isn't that a false dichotomy? Don't "supporters "criticize? Isn't the "small minority" the |
DirkGently |
Sep-22-10 09:40 AM |
#217 |
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^ ^ ^ This is an Excellent Post |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Sep-22-10 10:19 AM |
#228 |
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"who acknowledge no legitimate criticisms" |
Radical Activist |
Sep-22-10 10:38 AM |
#232 |
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Can you give an example of critique you find "legitimate?" |
DirkGently |
Sep-22-10 11:32 AM |
#252 |
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Anything based in fact rather than exaggeration, speculation and hyperbole. |
Radical Activist |
Sep-22-10 11:42 AM |
#257 |
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Can you name a specific critique you accept? If not, do you see where you appear absolutist? |
DirkGently |
Sep-22-10 11:45 AM |
#260 |
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swarm |
Radical Activist |
Sep-22-10 10:52 AM |
#240 |
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No, passing laws is the job of our leaders, who work for US. And isn't calling out other DUers |
DirkGently |
Sep-22-10 11:30 AM |
#251 |
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It's no more |
Radical Activist |
Sep-22-10 11:44 AM |
#258 |
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I'm an Obama supporter. I criticized absolutist attacks. You called out names. No dice. |
DirkGently |
Sep-22-10 11:46 AM |
#261 |
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Grief and swarm strikes again. |
Radical Activist |
Sep-22-10 11:54 AM |
#268 |
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I'm trying to converse. You're making accusations. Can you not simply name a "legit" critique? |
DirkGently |
Sep-22-10 11:55 AM |
#269 |
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Yup. That's their MO, alright. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-22-10 12:23 PM |
#279 |
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Can't name a "legitimate" critique either? Can you see how that looks unreasonable? |
DirkGently |
Sep-22-10 12:25 PM |
#280 |
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Is that a buzzing sound I hear? |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-22-10 01:20 PM |
#303 |
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Truly, a convincing Emoticon. Have you thought of the Obama critique you approve of yet? |
DirkGently |
Sep-22-10 03:41 PM |
#344 |
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I am as well. |
creon |
Sep-22-10 06:03 PM |
#365 |
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Unlike Krugman, I can distinguish between Obama's progressive base |
Radical Activist |
Sep-21-10 10:35 PM |
#92 |
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Got a PHD? Any creds? You a professional pollster? A position in Dem Party? |
KoKo |
Sep-22-10 07:50 AM |
#195 |
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Sure, I heard the signal he was on my side when he appointed a guy who believes deregulation didn't |
laughingliberal |
Sep-21-10 10:48 PM |
#96 |
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Krugman says the guy was right. Do you hate Krugman now? |
Radical Activist |
Sep-21-10 10:49 PM |
#98 |
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I don't hate anybody. I agree or disagree with their policies and I hate the effect some of them... |
laughingliberal |
Sep-21-10 10:59 PM |
#102 |
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There's a point |
Radical Activist |
Sep-21-10 11:15 PM |
#113 |
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I don't recall asking you a lot of questions. And I don't recall attacking politicians. I do oppose |
laughingliberal |
Sep-21-10 11:26 PM |
#118 |
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Sep-21-10 11:37 PM |
#121 |
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I didn't say I didn't respond to you. I said I don't recall asking you a lot of questions. nt |
laughingliberal |
Sep-21-10 11:53 PM |
#131 |
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To quote a famous Republican |
eilen |
Sep-22-10 08:42 AM |
#209 |
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What a brilliant man! |
Enthusiast |
Sep-22-10 09:19 AM |
#216 |
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That's not what he said |
depakid |
Sep-21-10 11:00 PM |
#104 |
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"I think he may technically be right" |
Radical Activist |
Sep-21-10 11:02 PM |
#106 |
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Read the whole statement |
depakid |
Sep-21-10 11:18 PM |
#116 |
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Not really, Krugman said the guy was right in that deregulation |
displacedvermoter |
Sep-22-10 03:41 PM |
#345 |
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The economic crisis was a |
Enthusiast |
Sep-22-10 09:15 AM |
#215 |
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He's got the wrong frequency then. |
PassingFair |
Sep-22-10 08:11 AM |
#200 |
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Most of us preferred to evaluate his actions in regard to BP |
eilen |
Sep-22-10 08:40 AM |
#208 |
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Right, Obama is attacked for not using the bully pulpit |
Radical Activist |
Sep-22-10 12:09 PM |
#272 |
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"All you’re doing is undermining the enthusiasm of people you need." |
Radical Activist |
Sep-21-10 10:36 PM |
#93 |
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Actually, he's warned several times before about insulting supporters and key constituencies |
depakid |
Sep-21-10 10:58 PM |
#101 |
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Krugman is confusing himself with all progressives. |
Radical Activist |
Sep-21-10 11:01 PM |
#105 |
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now |
G_j |
Sep-21-10 11:10 PM |
#110 |
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Perhaps. He is a little to the center of many of us. But he's a lot more progressive than Obama's... |
laughingliberal |
Sep-21-10 11:10 PM |
#111 |
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How so? Please give specific examples and include Elizabeth Warren into the Treasury mix. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-21-10 11:18 PM |
#115 |
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Elizabeth Warren is a champion of the people who has been appointed to a position and it remains... |
laughingliberal |
Sep-21-10 11:46 PM |
#126 |
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No, it doesn't "remain to be seen". Warren moved to simplifly mortgage disclosures yesterday. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-22-10 10:42 AM |
#235 |
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Actually, she started the process of taking action to simplify mortgage |
RaleighNCDUer |
Sep-22-10 01:22 PM |
#304 |
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And? Funny how the same people who championed her are now her biggest doubters, as if she's a dupe |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-22-10 01:50 PM |
#320 |
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No, it's simply too soon to know if she has full autonomy in running things |
RaleighNCDUer |
Sep-22-10 03:28 PM |
#340 |
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CAW CAW |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-22-10 05:25 PM |
#355 |
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?? |
RaleighNCDUer |
Sep-23-10 11:05 AM |
#397 |
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He wanted to appoint the toad Gregg to be Sec of Commerce |
displacedvermoter |
Sep-22-10 03:58 PM |
#347 |
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Don't you realize that Gregg would've had to follow Pres. Obama's orders, not the other way around? |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-22-10 05:29 PM |
#356 |
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Why did he want to appoint such a POS in the 1st place? |
displacedvermoter |
Sep-23-10 10:02 AM |
#396 |
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Sep-21-10 11:16 PM |
#114 |
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Do you have any evidence that backs up any your ugly rhetoric? Don't hide behind Krugman, either. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-21-10 11:25 PM |
#117 |
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Sep-21-10 11:45 PM |
#124 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-21-10 11:51 PM |
#128 |
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So the Obamas' fundraising and campaigning is all a sham designed to bring about a GOP majority, eh? |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-22-10 12:11 AM |
#136 |
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I don't know. |
laughingliberal |
Sep-22-10 12:26 AM |
#138 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Sep-22-10 12:00 AM |
#134 |
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Predictable dynamic |
Radical Activist |
Sep-21-10 11:28 PM |
#119 |
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The Democratic leadership has done it to themselves |
depakid |
Sep-21-10 11:41 PM |
#123 |
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And you've done your best to make 1994 come about |
Radical Activist |
Sep-21-10 11:51 PM |
#129 |
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LOL- blame and insult the observer & messenger! |
depakid |
Sep-22-10 12:29 AM |
#139 |
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Why does Sirota bother writing if he has no influence on anybody? |
Radical Activist |
Sep-22-10 12:45 AM |
#142 |
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The logic fail is all yours- i.e. you create a false analogy |
depakid |
Sep-22-10 01:02 AM |
#147 |
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the logic fail is also a false dichotomy |
carolinayellowdog |
Sep-22-10 10:12 AM |
#222 |
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I blame the spin and distortion. |
Radical Activist |
Sep-22-10 12:48 AM |
#145 |
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That's an interesting read....in many ways. |
KoKo |
Sep-22-10 07:34 AM |
#185 |
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Heck, I told them a year ago July that insulting & demoralizing the left would suppress... |
laughingliberal |
Sep-21-10 11:02 PM |
#107 |
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Yep- you were among the many of us who did |
depakid |
Sep-22-10 12:39 AM |
#140 |
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You're wrong. A huge majority of self-described liberals strongly support this President. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-22-10 01:13 AM |
#149 |
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well then you can shut up about liberal angst contributing to Democratic losses |
ibegurpard |
Sep-22-10 01:16 AM |
#151 |
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Um, when did I ever say that? Quote? nt |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-22-10 02:05 AM |
#156 |
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Another reason you want to keep all your constituencies on board for midterms if you're the party in |
laughingliberal |
Sep-22-10 01:30 AM |
#155 |
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You're making another false claim. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-22-10 02:10 AM |
#157 |
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Labor Day isn't that far in the past. I've been speaking of a problem with messaging for over a year |
laughingliberal |
Sep-22-10 03:05 AM |
#159 |
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The present is much more relevant since we're talking about the midterms, doncha think? |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-22-10 12:06 PM |
#271 |
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I believe I've indicated I am happy with his current efforts to keep the House. I do wish he'd |
laughingliberal |
Sep-22-10 10:53 PM |
#390 |
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"Self described liberals" are not necessarily liberal |
RaleighNCDUer |
Sep-22-10 01:33 PM |
#309 |
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And every time we were answered |
eilen |
Sep-22-10 08:55 AM |
#210 |
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Isn't it clear by now that dismissing the left is exactly where the "enthusiasm gap" comes from? |
DirkGently |
Sep-22-10 11:50 AM |
#265 |
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Because you say so? lol! Funny how recent polls show the gap narrowing... |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-22-10 12:12 PM |
#275 |
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I see. You demand strict proof, but offer none to show critique hurts the party? Convenient. |
DirkGently |
Sep-22-10 12:28 PM |
#281 |
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I never said that. You have a never ending supply of strawman arguments, doncha? Convenient. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-22-10 12:35 PM |
#286 |
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Then simply prove that the critique you're attacking hurts the party. |
DirkGently |
Sep-22-10 12:37 PM |
#287 |
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Why should I? That's your bailiwick, not mine. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-22-10 12:54 PM |
#292 |
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Proof is not your "bailiwick?" Then I assume you'll stop demanding it from others. |
DirkGently |
Sep-22-10 12:57 PM |
#294 |
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Again w/the strawman argument. Stop huffing all because I proved your false meme wrong, Dirk Gently |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-22-10 01:14 PM |
#300 |
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So, the enthusiasm gap is closing because you refuse to acknowledge any valid critique of Obama? |
DirkGently |
Sep-22-10 01:18 PM |
#302 |
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That's your fourth strawman argument in this subthread alone. Just sayin'. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-22-10 01:37 PM |
#310 |
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Just asking questions. Did you ever think of a critique of the President you find "legitimate?" |
DirkGently |
Sep-22-10 03:29 PM |
#341 |
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lol! Giving up on the strawman strategy now that I exposed it? I shot down your false meme, too. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-22-10 06:00 PM |
#363 |
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i don't think "strawman" means what you think it means |
nashville_brook |
Sep-22-10 06:47 PM |
#368 |
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Really? Then why don't you tell me what you "think" I "think" it means? |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-22-10 07:03 PM |
#371 |
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I'm concerned you may think it's a way to not name an Obama critique you agree with. |
DirkGently |
Sep-22-10 07:10 PM |
#373 |
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I wasn't replying to you. Are you stalking me? You're a bit of a broken record. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-22-10 07:19 PM |
#375 |
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Well you're certainly doing well. In celebration, can you discuss an Obama critique you agree with? |
DirkGently |
Sep-22-10 06:49 PM |
#369 |
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Couldn't have done it w/o you. False memes & litmus tests disguised as "questions" are no-brainers. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-22-10 07:17 PM |
#374 |
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The devastating Emoticons are your real secret. And not naming an Obama critique you'd agree with. |
DirkGently |
Sep-22-10 07:44 PM |
#377 |
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lol! False memes, strawman arguments, purity litmus tests... it's all so predictable. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-22-10 07:51 PM |
#379 |
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Sure, one of those must excuse you from answering an honest question. Or making an argument. |
DirkGently |
Sep-22-10 09:07 PM |
#383 |
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Au contraire. I need no "excuse" to eschew serious dialogue with anyone who embraces perfidy. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-23-10 09:52 AM |
#395 |
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+1 |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-21-10 11:52 PM |
#130 |
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We all defer to your knowledge on how to get out the vote. |
Forkboy |
Sep-21-10 11:54 PM |
#133 |
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Was anybody here doing the same? |
Forkboy |
Sep-21-10 11:54 PM |
#132 |
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K&R....n/t |
unkachuck |
Sep-21-10 11:09 PM |
#109 |
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Everybody knows that donkeys don't respond to dog whistles. |
LiberalAndProud |
Sep-21-10 11:45 PM |
#125 |
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As has been said by others & now Krugman, Obama was elected as a leader of a lib MOVEMENT |
kenny blankenship |
Sep-22-10 12:14 AM |
#137 |
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It's not like no one has tried to convey this to the Obama White House. |
EFerrari |
Sep-22-10 12:48 AM |
#144 |
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How many more columns like this before Krugman attains Hamsher status on DU? |
ibegurpard |
Sep-22-10 01:06 AM |
#148 |
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Please don't insult Krugman like that. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-22-10 01:19 AM |
#152 |
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Oh, Krugman has been under the bus a few times. Kind of depends on the day & what he's saying. nt |
laughingliberal |
Sep-22-10 03:10 AM |
#161 |
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Kinda like KO and Maddow. |
Lyric |
Sep-22-10 11:44 AM |
#259 |
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Who's not on the Enemies List at this point? Silent Bob, perhaps? |
DirkGently |
Sep-22-10 12:30 PM |
#283 |
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There is an almost compulsive aspect to the way the MSM plays divide and conquer with Dems. |
McCamy Taylor |
Sep-22-10 01:13 AM |
#150 |
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Krugman is right as usual |
Ramulux |
Sep-22-10 01:21 AM |
#154 |
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he is only refreshing when he leaks a truth now and again.....but a steady dose isn't expected. |
earcandle |
Sep-22-10 03:06 AM |
#160 |
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that's exactly how it feels |
CreekDog |
Sep-22-10 03:34 AM |
#164 |
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K & R |
FlyByNight |
Sep-22-10 04:04 AM |
#165 |
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All I ask of Obama is to welcome their hatred, as did FDR |
vssmith |
Sep-22-10 05:24 AM |
#166 |
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Never happen |
peace frog |
Sep-22-10 07:11 AM |
#178 |
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yes....true..n/t |
veganlush |
Sep-22-10 06:46 AM |
#174 |
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Time to stand up and face the facts |
Panaconda |
Sep-22-10 07:13 AM |
#179 |
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So I've learned something new . . . I'm a DFH. |
Vinca |
Sep-22-10 07:31 AM |
#184 |
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Shout out to a fellow DFH |
Le Taz Hot |
Sep-22-10 07:41 AM |
#190 |
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ALthough it seems that President Obama is chinging |
sammyscout |
Sep-22-10 07:41 AM |
#188 |
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recommend |
xchrom |
Sep-22-10 07:41 AM |
#189 |
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Do dog whistles work for the left? |
geek tragedy |
Sep-22-10 07:42 AM |
#192 |
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The difference is, rhe REAL left, the REAL liberals are convinced only |
RaleighNCDUer |
Sep-22-10 01:41 PM |
#315 |
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K&R! What a wonderful article! |
Enthusiast |
Sep-22-10 08:12 AM |
#202 |
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K&R n/t |
myrna minx |
Sep-22-10 08:55 AM |
#211 |
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Sep-22-10 09:10 AM |
#213 |
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Do you |
ProSense |
Sep-22-10 09:45 AM |
#218 |
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Yes, Krugman thinks HCR is "real change". Funny how his fans here keep ignoring that part. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-22-10 12:18 PM |
#278 |
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Neither did Bush take on a "team" of Michael Moore's, Robert Redford's ...or other liberal/ |
defendandprotect |
Sep-22-10 10:03 AM |
#219 |
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Yep. He not only appears to have contempt for his base |
Lorien |
Sep-22-10 10:40 AM |
#233 |
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Great points . . . . !!! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-22-10 11:16 AM |
#246 |
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"Professional left" was directed at people equating Democrats and Republicans |
LoZoccolo |
Sep-22-10 10:44 AM |
#237 |
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What's "disingenuous" is a Democratic president putting Repugs in charge of government .... |
defendandprotect |
Sep-22-10 11:19 AM |
#247 |
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Very well said ..... |
Techn0Girl |
Sep-22-10 06:01 PM |
#364 |
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Don't know what you're thinking about November . . . |
defendandprotect |
Sep-22-10 09:14 PM |
#385 |
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Could not agree more n/t |
MissDeeds |
Sep-22-10 06:09 PM |
#367 |
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Don't know what you're thinking about November, either ..... |
defendandprotect |
Sep-22-10 09:15 PM |
#386 |
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If some critics were wrong, first acknowledge those who are right, eh? Came off weak and defensive. |
DirkGently |
Sep-22-10 12:45 PM |
#290 |
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Funny, when Democrats ACT like Republicans, I think it is incumbent |
RaleighNCDUer |
Sep-22-10 01:46 PM |
#317 |
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Rahm...nothing else to say |
Hestia |
Sep-22-10 11:12 AM |
#244 |
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Could not agree more here... tired of being taken for granted by this administration |
budkin |
Sep-22-10 11:47 AM |
#263 |
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Conclusion: Needs more dog whistle. |
guruoo |
Sep-22-10 12:29 PM |
#282 |
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This all stems from the Obama Whitehouse not being able to admit to some DFHs |
Rex |
Sep-22-10 12:31 PM |
#284 |
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It's great to see so many recs for Krugman since he states that HCR is indeed "real change" |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-22-10 12:42 PM |
#288 |
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Some people have nuanced opinions and don't "pick a side." We call that "good faith." |
DirkGently |
Sep-22-10 12:56 PM |
#293 |
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Why are you putting "pick a side" in parentheses when I didn't say that? Strawman argument again? |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-22-10 01:40 PM |
#313 |
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Those are quotation marks. They imply Krugman's praise for Obama doesn't undermine his critique. |
DirkGently |
Sep-22-10 03:36 PM |
#343 |
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No, "they" don't; "quotation marks... imply" the previous poster said the phrase. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-22-10 05:42 PM |
#357 |
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Trust me. In this post, they meant Krugman's previous praise doesn't invalidate his criticism. |
DirkGently |
Sep-22-10 07:00 PM |
#370 |
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"Trust me." Ah, therein lies the rub. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-22-10 07:32 PM |
#376 |
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Fiendishly irrelevant. |
DirkGently |
Sep-22-10 07:46 PM |
#378 |
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Yes, the OP is. Because most self-described liberals have always strongly approved of Pres. Obama. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-22-10 08:10 PM |
#380 |
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K & R n/t |
ihavenobias |
Sep-22-10 12:44 PM |
#289 |
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picks up ball, goes home |
placton |
Sep-22-10 01:12 PM |
#298 |
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Stay. Fight. Send partisan hackery home. It's your Party, not theirs. |
DirkGently |
Sep-22-10 01:25 PM |
#308 |
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There was a great line on "West Wing" |
Jakes Progress |
Sep-22-10 01:44 PM |
#316 |
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sad but sadly true |
BrklynLiberal |
Sep-22-10 02:45 PM |
#326 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-22-10 03:11 PM |
#338 |
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Yeah, sure. |
ClarkUSA |
Sep-22-10 05:48 PM |
#359 |
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At this point we know the respect wouldn't be genuine |
hulka38 |
Sep-22-10 03:16 PM |
#339 |
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yes, it's an OCD-Obsessive Compulsive Disorder of alienation |
katty |
Sep-22-10 03:35 PM |
#342 |
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I never believed the Republicans prospered by admitting no wrong. Someone's advising Obama otherwise |
DirkGently |
Sep-22-10 03:43 PM |
#346 |
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not enough |
creon |
Sep-22-10 05:55 PM |
#361 |
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Krugman is confusing those that "held their nose" for supporters. nt |
AtomicKitten |
Sep-23-10 11:52 AM |
#398 |