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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-10 12:08 PM
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13. I'm having an acid flashback --
"...and yet President Clinton was able to score several major legislative victories with the help of Republicans."


From a letter I sent to O back in August after the Gibbs Hill article:

"I can see only two reasons for Mr. Gibb's statements:

1) You wanted to polish your "moderate/pro-corporate" cred (and fundraising) before the midterms and feel completely comfortable shitting on your base because you are confident they will take it and still show up to vote for the Democrats come November and 2012. After all, where else do they have to go? Right?

2) You want liberals to be discourage and to stay home. Why? I dunno, maybe it's because it is easier to be in the minority -- easier to explain away why you can't get a solid Democratic agenda (that perhaps was unwanted in the first place) through Congress, easier to huff and puff about how bad the GOP is without having to actually accomplish anything futher or, worse, easier to sell out traditional Democratic values in order to get the GOP support you would then need to get anything through.

Which ever the case, it is wildy cynical. Ugly. Unbefitting a Democratic President."

Only a neoliberal/DLCer like Bill Clinton would think it a good thing to lose the House so we can get even MORE fucked by playing footsies with the GOP. :eyes: :puke:

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  -Clinton: Losing House Would Help Obama in 2012 cal04  Sep-19-10 11:52 AM   #0 
  - Possibly, meanwhile nothing will get done for two years.  onehandle   Sep-19-10 11:55 AM   #1 
  - Amazing, every ex President has their opinion on Obama. Why not give him a chance. You had yours  still_one   Sep-19-10 11:56 AM   #2 
  - I never liked Clinton's way of thinking.  ProSense   Sep-19-10 11:56 AM   #3 
  - Just what we need - a GOP House. That will really solve everything!  breadandwine   Sep-20-10 06:44 AM   #27 
  - Even assuming he's right that losing the house would be good for 2012 ...  LiberalAndProud   Sep-19-10 11:57 AM   #4 
  - HIPAA and CHIP  iamjoy   Sep-19-10 12:00 PM   #7 
  - Good post. nt  ladjf   Sep-19-10 12:05 PM   #12 
  - It would only help if conservative policies are desired by the WH  DJ13   Sep-19-10 11:58 AM   #5 
  - What Is Wrong With Democrats?  iamjoy   Sep-19-10 11:59 AM   #6 
  - DLC is what is wrong with Democrats  Individualist   Sep-19-10 12:02 PM   #10 
  - ...maybe impeachment for all of Obama's crimes!  FormerDittoHead   Sep-19-10 12:03 PM   #11 
  - It might help Obama in '12  Nite Owl   Sep-19-10 12:01 PM   #8 
  - Plus One. nt  Enthusiast   Sep-19-10 04:08 PM   #21 
  - Possiby Obama doesn't have the ego that Clinton does  Maccagirl   Sep-19-10 12:02 PM   #9 
  - I'm having an acid flashback --  Hell Hath No Fury   Sep-19-10 12:08 PM   #13 
  - I'm with you!  Enthusiast   Sep-19-10 04:09 PM   #22 
  - No it would not, Bill.  Arkana   Sep-19-10 12:14 PM   #14 
  - Yes, if he became comfortable with using this here  bluestateguy   Sep-19-10 12:17 PM   #15 
  - On this topic Clinton is full of it.  LiberalFighter   Sep-19-10 12:19 PM   #16 
  - No it would not. It would destroy the Country.  glinda   Sep-19-10 12:38 PM   #17 
  - True and just the politicians will benefit, while the working class goes further down in flames.  Rex   Sep-19-10 12:40 PM   #18 
  - I care less about what helps him than what helps us. n/t  lumberjack_jeff   Sep-19-10 12:43 PM   #19 
  - Why didn't this big mouth  Enthusiast   Sep-19-10 04:07 PM   #20 
  - Clinton added, "Whether it would be good for the country or not. I don't know."  Mefistofeles   Sep-19-10 04:10 PM   #23 
  - With all due respect, Mr. President: Kindly keep your foolishness to yourself.  blondeatlast   Sep-19-10 04:10 PM   #24 
  - I can't follow the logic here.  BlueIris   Sep-19-10 04:30 PM   #25 
  - Whatever power the cons gain,  necso   Sep-20-10 06:33 AM   #26 
  - Bill...shut up. Really. Shut up.  EstimatedProphet   Sep-20-10 07:35 AM   #28 
  - "Clinton was able to score several major legislative victories with the help of Republicans"  MilesColtrane   Sep-20-10 09:27 AM   #29 
  - Losing the House would definitely help the DLC, including Obama. New democrats are just republicans.  Erose999   Sep-20-10 09:34 AM   #30 
 

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