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94. Richard Dawkins is right.
The pope is engaging in revisionist history.
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  -Richard Dawkins Furious At Pope For Tying Godless To Nazis Kolesar  Sep-18-10 10:42 AM   #0 
  - Which of them was a Hitler youth member?  BolivarianHero   Sep-18-10 10:46 AM   #1 
  - that's gotta sting....  mike_c   Sep-18-10 10:50 AM   #5 
  - You are right - so he would be in a better position to know than someone who wasn't there (nt)  The Straight Story   Sep-18-10 11:35 AM   #18 
     - Better position to know what? Why Christians were in the Hitler youth?  urgk   Sep-19-10 07:48 AM   #101 
  - K&R! //nt  Overseas   Sep-18-10 10:48 AM   #2 
  - .  lumberjack_jeff   Sep-18-10 10:50 AM   #3 
  - Exactly. n/t  iris27   Sep-18-10 03:57 PM   #34 
  - Beat me to it. Thanks!  20score   Sep-19-10 03:29 AM   #75 
  - Nice! n/t  krkaufman   Sep-19-10 04:39 AM   #77 
  - if i am not mistaken they did all of that in the name of religion.  ejpoeta   Sep-18-10 10:50 AM   #4 
  - K/R  progressoid   Sep-18-10 10:52 AM   # 
  - Lying, Fucking, pedophile protecting,  edhopper   Sep-18-10 10:52 AM   #6 
  - I'm not an atheist but I agree with Dawkins on this.  Uncle Joe   Sep-18-10 10:55 AM   #7 
  - Does Dawkins sweep exterminated Polish Roman Catholics under the rug? nt  phasma ex machina   Sep-18-10 10:56 AM   #8 
  - The Church's official policy towards the Nazis was of appeasement.  baldguy   Sep-18-10 11:03 AM   #10 
  - I think there is some truth in that, but it also speaks of the power of  Joe Chi Minh   Sep-18-10 05:38 PM   #40 
     - "It is atheists and agnostics who believe they are uniformly good."  MattBaggins   Sep-18-10 06:35 PM   #45 
     - I think what Joe might mean (sorry Joe if I'm wrong) is that the mantra  jhrobbins   Sep-19-10 01:51 AM   #72 
        - That mantra is more of a defense against Believers calling us evil.  jobycom   Sep-19-10 06:19 AM   #85 
     - Gee, Joe, it must be nice to read the minds of millions of us non-believers.  Arugula Latte   Sep-18-10 07:03 PM   #51 
     - Another ode to logical dissonance.  liberation   Sep-19-10 05:04 AM   #80 
     - And where is your evidence  skepticscott   Sep-19-10 06:29 AM   #86 
     - The irony...  kenfrequed   Sep-19-10 08:56 AM   #109 
  - What's your point?  edhopper   Sep-18-10 11:06 AM   #12 
  - Not at all  lolly   Sep-18-10 12:36 PM   #21 
  - how so?  fishwax   Sep-18-10 06:50 PM   #48 
  - No but the Church sure didn't do much to help stop the Nazis, did it?  Arugula Latte   Sep-18-10 07:02 PM   #50 
  - They were killed because they were Polish, not because they were Catholic  Ken Burch   Sep-19-10 01:44 AM   #71 
  - Do you mean the Katyn Forest massacre?  intaglio   Sep-19-10 05:46 AM   #82 
  - Does Dawkins sweep exterminated Polish Roman Catholics under the rug?  AlbertCat   Sep-19-10 10:03 AM   #113 
  - You could sweep plenty by turning your strawman into a broom.  JBoy   Sep-19-10 10:34 AM   #123 
  - If the church had stood up to the Nazis, perhaps the would not have exterminated anyone...  BrklynLiberal   Sep-19-10 10:54 AM   #131 
  - Oh oh... The guy who was a member of the hitler youth is accusing others of being Nazis.  Initech   Sep-18-10 11:01 AM   #9 
  - Membership in the Hitler Youth was mandatory when Ratzinger was a member  struggle4progress   Sep-18-10 11:11 AM   #15 
     - Then the pope should be even more ashamed of that statement.  Zoeisright   Sep-18-10 07:05 PM   #52 
     - And who better than a "devout" Catholic  skepticscott   Sep-19-10 06:34 AM   #88 
     - Membership in the Hitler Youth was mandatory when Ratzinger was a member  AlbertCat   Sep-19-10 10:10 AM   #114 
        - How exactly does a 14 year old fight the Nazi movment by himself?  davepc   Sep-19-10 10:50 AM   #130 
        - I think it is very easy to sneer at people in a time and place  struggle4progress   Sep-19-10 01:16 PM   #136 
           - It seems like you are fine with the pope sneering at people who don't share his mythology.  Arugula Latte   Sep-19-10 02:22 PM   #139 
  - Amazing, the way this guy lies and makes shit up...MUST be a Repuke!  Rex   Sep-18-10 11:06 AM   #11 
  - JPII  edhopper   Sep-18-10 11:08 AM   #14 
     - I did not know that, thank you for the information.  Rex   Sep-18-10 03:12 PM   #33 
     - I despise the free pass that JPII got  Arugula Latte   Sep-18-10 07:06 PM   #54 
        - JPII was the churches Ronald Reagan  edhopper   Sep-18-10 07:21 PM   #60 
  - Happy to K&R...  SidDithers   Sep-18-10 11:06 AM   #13 
  - I expect to be unfriended by some of my homies on Facebook for putting this up on my home page  Kolesar   Sep-18-10 11:26 AM   #16 
  - And this comes from the Hitler Youth...  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-18-10 11:28 AM   #17 
  - Lol pope ratzi the nazi  DireStrike   Sep-18-10 11:39 AM   #19 
  - Godwin's Law needs a corollary along the lines of Nazism being the world's oldest troll  phasma ex machina   Sep-18-10 12:09 PM   #20 
  - This has been the standard line of thought for a while  lolly   Sep-18-10 12:41 PM   #22 
  - If there ever was the most secular and non-religious group of people in the  Fool Count   Sep-18-10 07:29 PM   #62 
     - Oh, I wouldn't disagree  lolly   Sep-18-10 11:25 PM   #67 
  - I think Dawkins shouldn't have been as restrained.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Sep-18-10 12:44 PM   #23 
  - Dawkins, born in Kenya in 1941, had no experience of and has no real memory of the Nazi period  struggle4progress   Sep-18-10 01:26 PM   #24 
  - That is the most piss ant excuse for  edhopper   Sep-18-10 01:35 PM   #25 
  - Do forgive me if I missed any actual mention of Dawkins by the Pope. Perhaps you could give a link?  struggle4progress   Sep-18-10 02:46 PM   #32 
  - Wha? ah? which?  edhopper   Sep-18-10 04:39 PM   #35 
  - Are you playing?  Confusious   Sep-18-10 05:57 PM   #42 
  - Perverting an existing religion is not anti religious  whosinpower   Sep-18-10 06:15 PM   #44 
  - By 1945, they were producing Nazi bibles  AlbertCat   Sep-19-10 10:19 AM   #117 
     - You don't read very well, do you?  struggle4progress   Sep-19-10 01:18 PM   #137 
  - And there were also many Christians who sheltered Jews and built and  Joe Chi Minh   Sep-18-10 05:50 PM   #41 
     - So? There were plenty of atheist who helped Jews who were being prosecuted by the CHRISTIAN majority  liberation   Sep-19-10 06:34 AM   #89 
     - Yeah, true.  kenfrequed   Sep-19-10 09:24 AM   #112 
     - I think stating that there were "many" really overstates the  COLGATE4   Sep-19-10 07:43 AM   #99 
  - I guess these photos are exampless of godless nazism  hobbit709   Sep-18-10 01:43 PM   #26 
  - I'm not really sure why you think a few snapshots can substitute for  struggle4progress   Sep-18-10 08:08 PM   #64 
     - Being serious about controlling Germany  lolly   Sep-18-10 11:31 PM   #68 
     - No different than the ones using god today in the same way.  hobbit709   Sep-19-10 06:00 AM   #84 
     - The Nazis were quite serious about controlling Germany completely,  AlbertCat   Sep-19-10 10:24 AM   #119 
  - Take your last sentnce.  Nevernose   Sep-18-10 01:52 PM   #27 
  - To hell with that apologist vomit you just puked out  mitchum   Sep-18-10 02:00 PM   #29 
  - + 1  COLGATE4   Sep-19-10 07:44 AM   #100 
  - WHERE'S HIS BIRTH CETIFICATE????  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Sep-18-10 02:01 PM   #30 
  - Gott Mit Uns is German for God Is With Us..  Fumesucker   Sep-18-10 02:05 PM   #31 
  - Der Popenfuhrer, on the other hand, knows all sorts of thigns about Nazis.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-18-10 04:44 PM   #36 
  - Benny the Rat is flat out lying  eridani   Sep-18-10 07:14 PM   #57 
  - Your post is one of the strangest things I've ever read on DU.  Chef Eric   Sep-19-10 05:52 AM   #83 
  - You find it strange because it does not reflect your own prejudices.  struggle4progress   Sep-19-10 02:05 PM   #138 
     - Congratulations, you've managed to top yourself.  Chef Eric   Sep-19-10 03:36 PM   #140 
  - Yeah, nice red herring...  liberation   Sep-19-10 06:44 AM   #90 
  - Minus one....nt  Enthusiast   Sep-19-10 07:12 AM   #95 
  - Some of your posts make me want to puke.  trotsky   Sep-19-10 04:10 PM   #142 
  - Dawkins calls out Nazi Douchebag  mitchum   Sep-18-10 01:59 PM   #28 
  - Being baptised a Catholic no more makes you a Catholic, than baptism makes you a Christian.  Joe Chi Minh   Sep-18-10 05:16 PM   #37 
  - This pope is trying to group Nazism in with Stalinist atheism and it does not work  Kolesar   Sep-18-10 05:29 PM   #38 
  - Of course, it does. Do you think either regime was Christian? If you think that  Joe Chi Minh   Sep-18-10 05:34 PM   #39 
  - Gott Mit Uns is German for God Is With Us..  Fumesucker   Sep-18-10 06:48 PM   #47 
  - Yes the Third Reich was at least a defacto Chistian Regime  MattBaggins   Sep-18-10 06:59 PM   #49 
  - No, the idea was to move Germany to a modern form of  COLGATE4   Sep-19-10 10:15 AM   #115 
  - Ironic that Lorca was executed for being among other things: intellectual, atheist, and homosexual  liberation   Sep-19-10 07:05 AM   #93 
  - Funny, they didn't sound atheist.  urgk   Sep-19-10 07:55 AM   #102 
  - Do you think either regime was Christian?  AlbertCat   Sep-19-10 10:42 AM   #127 
  - Exactly right.  Zoeisright   Sep-18-10 07:06 PM   #53 
     - delete-wrong place  Kolesar   Sep-18-10 07:13 PM   #56 
  - Wow, what a stupid post. Organized religion was CREATED for tyranny.  Zoeisright   Sep-18-10 07:08 PM   #55 
  - Kings promote religion because the concept of divine right protects them  Kolesar   Sep-18-10 07:14 PM   #58 
  - that is an overly broad statement about atheists. nt  tomp   Sep-19-10 08:00 AM   #104 
  - When did Hitler ever formally espouse atheism?  eridani   Sep-18-10 07:22 PM   #61 
  - When has Christianity prevented tyranny?  lolly   Sep-18-10 11:39 PM   #70 
  - Utter nonsense!!  blackspade   Sep-19-10 02:13 AM   #73 
  - Hitler was no atheist. He believed in deity.  howard112211   Sep-19-10 04:49 AM   #79 
  - You should be ashamed to knowingly spout such baloney  skepticscott   Sep-19-10 06:47 AM   #91 
  - True, baptism means nothing,  intaglio   Sep-19-10 07:04 AM   #92 
  - Plus one! nt  Enthusiast   Sep-19-10 07:18 AM   #96 
  - plus two! nt  tomp   Sep-19-10 08:04 AM   #105 
  - Plus Three!!!  COLGATE4   Sep-19-10 10:16 AM   #116 
  - He was a double-dyed atheist  AlbertCat   Sep-19-10 10:31 AM   #122 
  - ever-growing tyranny of secular goverments.  AlbertCat   Sep-19-10 10:40 AM   #125 
  - Hitler sounds like every other rightwing fundie using religion to spout hate!  Generic Other   Sep-18-10 06:06 PM   #43 
  - Jesus wept.  Canuckistanian   Sep-18-10 06:46 PM   #46 
  - I thought the upper echelon of Nazis were enamored of Norse myth.  WinkyDink   Sep-18-10 07:15 PM   #59 
  - Most of the Myth they were ever so enamoured of, esp. the whole Aryan nonsense...  liberation   Sep-19-10 07:19 AM   #97 
  - Dawkins is brilliant  malaise   Sep-18-10 07:32 PM   #63 
  - But the Pope doesn't seem to remember HE was a Nazi.  TexasObserver   Sep-18-10 09:35 PM   #65 
  - Indeed, the pope is correct.  JoeyT   Sep-18-10 10:12 PM   #66 
  - Yeah, but Richard Dawkins helped all those pedophiles escape prosecution, didn't he?  Warren DeMontague   Sep-18-10 11:32 PM   #69 
  - And that's why I've thought all along  cartach   Sep-19-10 03:13 AM   #74 
  - How about tying the Catholic Church to the systematic abuse of children?  6000eliot   Sep-19-10 04:14 AM   #76 
  - It would ve very instructive, IMO, to schedule a debate  saltpoint   Sep-19-10 04:48 AM   #78 
  - Hang the pope!  southmost   Sep-19-10 05:29 AM   #81 
  - I am really glad the pope made this statement.  lostnfound   Sep-19-10 06:32 AM   #87 
  - American currency said "In God We Trust", a century after we murdered the Plains Indians  Kolesar   Sep-19-10 07:32 AM   #98 
  - Richard Dawkins is right.  Enthusiast   Sep-19-10 07:06 AM   #94 
  - the pope is an odious cretin  RainDog   Sep-19-10 07:57 AM   #103 
  - First, Hitler co-opted the thought process of Christian nation.  mmonk   Sep-19-10 08:14 AM   #106 
  - K  fadedrose   Sep-19-10 08:41 AM   #107 
  - not keen on the Pope ..but even less keen on Dawkins..a no-fun bore  Swagman   Sep-19-10 08:42 AM   #108 
  - If you actually read Dawkins  edhopper   Sep-19-10 09:09 AM   #111 
  - Where was this God while over 65,000,000 people died in WWII?  RedCloud   Sep-19-10 09:01 AM   #110 
  - I've only seen Dawkins on a few cable programs and  saltpoint   Sep-19-10 10:21 AM   #118 
  - but he certainly strikes me as a keen mind.  AlbertCat   Sep-19-10 10:54 AM   #132 
     - Hi, AlbertCat. I'll maybe give one of those a try...  saltpoint   Sep-19-10 10:59 AM   #133 
  - Adolf Hitler was born and raised Roman Catholic, Ratzo....and the Catholic Church aided  old mark   Sep-19-10 10:26 AM   # 
  - I am incandescent with rage  TACFIRE   Sep-19-10 10:26 AM   #120 
  - What's new? The pope is lying about something. Par for the course.  bertman   Sep-19-10 10:27 AM   #121 
  - Atheist are the Whipping Boys/Girls of the world!  SkyDaddy7   Sep-19-10 10:37 AM   #124 
  - I'm one of those "god-less heathens" and I could care less what the man in the pointy hat  Javaman   Sep-19-10 10:40 AM   #126 
  - What an scourge upon mankind this so-called leader is.  OwnedByFerrets   Sep-19-10 10:48 AM   #128 
  - Dawkins is 100% right and I applaud him for speaking out on this.  BrklynLiberal   Sep-19-10 10:49 AM   #129 
  - It is a massive misconception that Hitler/Nazis were atheist..  and-justice-for-all   Sep-19-10 11:01 AM   #134 
  - Funny. Hitler was raised as a Catholic and  obxhead   Sep-19-10 11:23 AM   #135 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-19-10 03:57 PM   #141 
     - And this is remotely relevant  skepticscott   Sep-19-10 04:14 PM   #143 
     - So you're anti-atheist AND anti-gay.  trotsky   Sep-19-10 04:36 PM   #144 

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