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Sat Sep-18-10 07:08 PM
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| 55. Wow, what a stupid post. Organized religion was CREATED for tyranny. |
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Why don't you do a little reading yourself? The church promises 'heaven' as a carrot to the ignorant masses to forfeit any right to happiness or comfort in this life.
Most, if not all, atheists are thinkers and have excellent logical reasoning skills. Unlike the sheeple who follow anyone wearing a collar and carrying a cross. Shame on you.
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| -Richard Dawkins Furious At Pope For Tying Godless To Nazis |
Kolesar |
Sep-18-10 10:42 AM |
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Which of them was a Hitler youth member? |
BolivarianHero |
Sep-18-10 10:46 AM |
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that's gotta sting.... |
mike_c |
Sep-18-10 10:50 AM |
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You are right - so he would be in a better position to know than someone who wasn't there (nt) |
The Straight Story |
Sep-18-10 11:35 AM |
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Better position to know what? Why Christians were in the Hitler youth? |
urgk |
Sep-19-10 07:48 AM |
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K&R! //nt |
Overseas |
Sep-18-10 10:48 AM |
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. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Sep-18-10 10:50 AM |
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Exactly. n/t |
iris27 |
Sep-18-10 03:57 PM |
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Beat me to it. Thanks! |
20score |
Sep-19-10 03:29 AM |
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Nice! n/t |
krkaufman |
Sep-19-10 04:39 AM |
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if i am not mistaken they did all of that in the name of religion. |
ejpoeta |
Sep-18-10 10:50 AM |
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K/R |
progressoid |
Sep-18-10 10:52 AM |
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Lying, Fucking, pedophile protecting, |
edhopper |
Sep-18-10 10:52 AM |
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I'm not an atheist but I agree with Dawkins on this. |
Uncle Joe |
Sep-18-10 10:55 AM |
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Does Dawkins sweep exterminated Polish Roman Catholics under the rug? nt |
phasma ex machina |
Sep-18-10 10:56 AM |
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The Church's official policy towards the Nazis was of appeasement. |
baldguy |
Sep-18-10 11:03 AM |
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I think there is some truth in that, but it also speaks of the power of |
Joe Chi Minh |
Sep-18-10 05:38 PM |
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"It is atheists and agnostics who believe they are uniformly good." |
MattBaggins |
Sep-18-10 06:35 PM |
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I think what Joe might mean (sorry Joe if I'm wrong) is that the mantra |
jhrobbins |
Sep-19-10 01:51 AM |
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That mantra is more of a defense against Believers calling us evil. |
jobycom |
Sep-19-10 06:19 AM |
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Gee, Joe, it must be nice to read the minds of millions of us non-believers. |
Arugula Latte |
Sep-18-10 07:03 PM |
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Another ode to logical dissonance. |
liberation |
Sep-19-10 05:04 AM |
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And where is your evidence |
skepticscott |
Sep-19-10 06:29 AM |
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The irony... |
kenfrequed |
Sep-19-10 08:56 AM |
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What's your point? |
edhopper |
Sep-18-10 11:06 AM |
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Not at all |
lolly |
Sep-18-10 12:36 PM |
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how so? |
fishwax |
Sep-18-10 06:50 PM |
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No but the Church sure didn't do much to help stop the Nazis, did it? |
Arugula Latte |
Sep-18-10 07:02 PM |
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They were killed because they were Polish, not because they were Catholic |
Ken Burch |
Sep-19-10 01:44 AM |
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Do you mean the Katyn Forest massacre? |
intaglio |
Sep-19-10 05:46 AM |
#82 |
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Does Dawkins sweep exterminated Polish Roman Catholics under the rug? |
AlbertCat |
Sep-19-10 10:03 AM |
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You could sweep plenty by turning your strawman into a broom. |
JBoy |
Sep-19-10 10:34 AM |
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If the church had stood up to the Nazis, perhaps the would not have exterminated anyone... |
BrklynLiberal |
Sep-19-10 10:54 AM |
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Oh oh... The guy who was a member of the hitler youth is accusing others of being Nazis. |
Initech |
Sep-18-10 11:01 AM |
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Membership in the Hitler Youth was mandatory when Ratzinger was a member |
struggle4progress |
Sep-18-10 11:11 AM |
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Then the pope should be even more ashamed of that statement. |
Zoeisright |
Sep-18-10 07:05 PM |
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And who better than a "devout" Catholic |
skepticscott |
Sep-19-10 06:34 AM |
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Membership in the Hitler Youth was mandatory when Ratzinger was a member |
AlbertCat |
Sep-19-10 10:10 AM |
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How exactly does a 14 year old fight the Nazi movment by himself? |
davepc |
Sep-19-10 10:50 AM |
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I think it is very easy to sneer at people in a time and place |
struggle4progress |
Sep-19-10 01:16 PM |
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It seems like you are fine with the pope sneering at people who don't share his mythology. |
Arugula Latte |
Sep-19-10 02:22 PM |
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Amazing, the way this guy lies and makes shit up...MUST be a Repuke! |
Rex |
Sep-18-10 11:06 AM |
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JPII |
edhopper |
Sep-18-10 11:08 AM |
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I did not know that, thank you for the information. |
Rex |
Sep-18-10 03:12 PM |
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I despise the free pass that JPII got |
Arugula Latte |
Sep-18-10 07:06 PM |
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JPII was the churches Ronald Reagan |
edhopper |
Sep-18-10 07:21 PM |
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Happy to K&R... |
SidDithers |
Sep-18-10 11:06 AM |
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I expect to be unfriended by some of my homies on Facebook for putting this up on my home page |
Kolesar |
Sep-18-10 11:26 AM |
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And this comes from the Hitler Youth... |
nadinbrzezinski |
Sep-18-10 11:28 AM |
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Lol pope ratzi the nazi |
DireStrike |
Sep-18-10 11:39 AM |
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Godwin's Law needs a corollary along the lines of Nazism being the world's oldest troll |
phasma ex machina |
Sep-18-10 12:09 PM |
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This has been the standard line of thought for a while |
lolly |
Sep-18-10 12:41 PM |
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If there ever was the most secular and non-religious group of people in the |
Fool Count |
Sep-18-10 07:29 PM |
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Oh, I wouldn't disagree |
lolly |
Sep-18-10 11:25 PM |
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I think Dawkins shouldn't have been as restrained. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Sep-18-10 12:44 PM |
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Dawkins, born in Kenya in 1941, had no experience of and has no real memory of the Nazi period |
struggle4progress |
Sep-18-10 01:26 PM |
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That is the most piss ant excuse for |
edhopper |
Sep-18-10 01:35 PM |
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Do forgive me if I missed any actual mention of Dawkins by the Pope. Perhaps you could give a link? |
struggle4progress |
Sep-18-10 02:46 PM |
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Wha? ah? which? |
edhopper |
Sep-18-10 04:39 PM |
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Are you playing? |
Confusious |
Sep-18-10 05:57 PM |
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Perverting an existing religion is not anti religious |
whosinpower |
Sep-18-10 06:15 PM |
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By 1945, they were producing Nazi bibles |
AlbertCat |
Sep-19-10 10:19 AM |
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You don't read very well, do you? |
struggle4progress |
Sep-19-10 01:18 PM |
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And there were also many Christians who sheltered Jews and built and |
Joe Chi Minh |
Sep-18-10 05:50 PM |
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So? There were plenty of atheist who helped Jews who were being prosecuted by the CHRISTIAN majority |
liberation |
Sep-19-10 06:34 AM |
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Yeah, true. |
kenfrequed |
Sep-19-10 09:24 AM |
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I think stating that there were "many" really overstates the |
COLGATE4 |
Sep-19-10 07:43 AM |
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I guess these photos are exampless of godless nazism |
hobbit709 |
Sep-18-10 01:43 PM |
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I'm not really sure why you think a few snapshots can substitute for |
struggle4progress |
Sep-18-10 08:08 PM |
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Being serious about controlling Germany |
lolly |
Sep-18-10 11:31 PM |
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No different than the ones using god today in the same way. |
hobbit709 |
Sep-19-10 06:00 AM |
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The Nazis were quite serious about controlling Germany completely, |
AlbertCat |
Sep-19-10 10:24 AM |
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Take your last sentnce. |
Nevernose |
Sep-18-10 01:52 PM |
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To hell with that apologist vomit you just puked out |
mitchum |
Sep-18-10 02:00 PM |
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+ 1 |
COLGATE4 |
Sep-19-10 07:44 AM |
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WHERE'S HIS BIRTH CETIFICATE???? |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Sep-18-10 02:01 PM |
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Gott Mit Uns is German for God Is With Us.. |
Fumesucker |
Sep-18-10 02:05 PM |
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Der Popenfuhrer, on the other hand, knows all sorts of thigns about Nazis. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Sep-18-10 04:44 PM |
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Benny the Rat is flat out lying |
eridani |
Sep-18-10 07:14 PM |
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Your post is one of the strangest things I've ever read on DU. |
Chef Eric |
Sep-19-10 05:52 AM |
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You find it strange because it does not reflect your own prejudices. |
struggle4progress |
Sep-19-10 02:05 PM |
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Congratulations, you've managed to top yourself. |
Chef Eric |
Sep-19-10 03:36 PM |
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Yeah, nice red herring... |
liberation |
Sep-19-10 06:44 AM |
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Minus one....nt |
Enthusiast |
Sep-19-10 07:12 AM |
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Some of your posts make me want to puke. |
trotsky |
Sep-19-10 04:10 PM |
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Dawkins calls out Nazi Douchebag |
mitchum |
Sep-18-10 01:59 PM |
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Being baptised a Catholic no more makes you a Catholic, than baptism makes you a Christian. |
Joe Chi Minh |
Sep-18-10 05:16 PM |
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This pope is trying to group Nazism in with Stalinist atheism and it does not work |
Kolesar |
Sep-18-10 05:29 PM |
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Of course, it does. Do you think either regime was Christian? If you think that |
Joe Chi Minh |
Sep-18-10 05:34 PM |
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Gott Mit Uns is German for God Is With Us.. |
Fumesucker |
Sep-18-10 06:48 PM |
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Yes the Third Reich was at least a defacto Chistian Regime |
MattBaggins |
Sep-18-10 06:59 PM |
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No, the idea was to move Germany to a modern form of |
COLGATE4 |
Sep-19-10 10:15 AM |
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Ironic that Lorca was executed for being among other things: intellectual, atheist, and homosexual |
liberation |
Sep-19-10 07:05 AM |
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Funny, they didn't sound atheist. |
urgk |
Sep-19-10 07:55 AM |
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Do you think either regime was Christian? |
AlbertCat |
Sep-19-10 10:42 AM |
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Exactly right. |
Zoeisright |
Sep-18-10 07:06 PM |
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delete-wrong place |
Kolesar |
Sep-18-10 07:13 PM |
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Wow, what a stupid post. Organized religion was CREATED for tyranny. |
Zoeisright |
Sep-18-10 07:08 PM |
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Kings promote religion because the concept of divine right protects them |
Kolesar |
Sep-18-10 07:14 PM |
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that is an overly broad statement about atheists. nt |
tomp |
Sep-19-10 08:00 AM |
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When did Hitler ever formally espouse atheism? |
eridani |
Sep-18-10 07:22 PM |
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When has Christianity prevented tyranny? |
lolly |
Sep-18-10 11:39 PM |
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Utter nonsense!! |
blackspade |
Sep-19-10 02:13 AM |
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Hitler was no atheist. He believed in deity. |
howard112211 |
Sep-19-10 04:49 AM |
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You should be ashamed to knowingly spout such baloney |
skepticscott |
Sep-19-10 06:47 AM |
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True, baptism means nothing, |
intaglio |
Sep-19-10 07:04 AM |
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Plus one! nt |
Enthusiast |
Sep-19-10 07:18 AM |
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plus two! nt |
tomp |
Sep-19-10 08:04 AM |
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Plus Three!!! |
COLGATE4 |
Sep-19-10 10:16 AM |
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He was a double-dyed atheist |
AlbertCat |
Sep-19-10 10:31 AM |
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ever-growing tyranny of secular goverments. |
AlbertCat |
Sep-19-10 10:40 AM |
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Hitler sounds like every other rightwing fundie using religion to spout hate! |
Generic Other |
Sep-18-10 06:06 PM |
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Jesus wept. |
Canuckistanian |
Sep-18-10 06:46 PM |
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I thought the upper echelon of Nazis were enamored of Norse myth. |
WinkyDink |
Sep-18-10 07:15 PM |
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Most of the Myth they were ever so enamoured of, esp. the whole Aryan nonsense... |
liberation |
Sep-19-10 07:19 AM |
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Dawkins is brilliant |
malaise |
Sep-18-10 07:32 PM |
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But the Pope doesn't seem to remember HE was a Nazi. |
TexasObserver |
Sep-18-10 09:35 PM |
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Indeed, the pope is correct. |
JoeyT |
Sep-18-10 10:12 PM |
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Yeah, but Richard Dawkins helped all those pedophiles escape prosecution, didn't he? |
Warren DeMontague |
Sep-18-10 11:32 PM |
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And that's why I've thought all along |
cartach |
Sep-19-10 03:13 AM |
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How about tying the Catholic Church to the systematic abuse of children? |
6000eliot |
Sep-19-10 04:14 AM |
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It would ve very instructive, IMO, to schedule a debate |
saltpoint |
Sep-19-10 04:48 AM |
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Hang the pope! |
southmost |
Sep-19-10 05:29 AM |
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I am really glad the pope made this statement. |
lostnfound |
Sep-19-10 06:32 AM |
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American currency said "In God We Trust", a century after we murdered the Plains Indians |
Kolesar |
Sep-19-10 07:32 AM |
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Richard Dawkins is right. |
Enthusiast |
Sep-19-10 07:06 AM |
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the pope is an odious cretin |
RainDog |
Sep-19-10 07:57 AM |
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First, Hitler co-opted the thought process of Christian nation. |
mmonk |
Sep-19-10 08:14 AM |
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K |
fadedrose |
Sep-19-10 08:41 AM |
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not keen on the Pope ..but even less keen on Dawkins..a no-fun bore |
Swagman |
Sep-19-10 08:42 AM |
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If you actually read Dawkins |
edhopper |
Sep-19-10 09:09 AM |
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Where was this God while over 65,000,000 people died in WWII? |
RedCloud |
Sep-19-10 09:01 AM |
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I've only seen Dawkins on a few cable programs and |
saltpoint |
Sep-19-10 10:21 AM |
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but he certainly strikes me as a keen mind. |
AlbertCat |
Sep-19-10 10:54 AM |
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Hi, AlbertCat. I'll maybe give one of those a try... |
saltpoint |
Sep-19-10 10:59 AM |
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Adolf Hitler was born and raised Roman Catholic, Ratzo....and the Catholic Church aided |
old mark |
Sep-19-10 10:26 AM |
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I am incandescent with rage |
TACFIRE |
Sep-19-10 10:26 AM |
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What's new? The pope is lying about something. Par for the course. |
bertman |
Sep-19-10 10:27 AM |
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Atheist are the Whipping Boys/Girls of the world! |
SkyDaddy7 |
Sep-19-10 10:37 AM |
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I'm one of those "god-less heathens" and I could care less what the man in the pointy hat |
Javaman |
Sep-19-10 10:40 AM |
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What an scourge upon mankind this so-called leader is. |
OwnedByFerrets |
Sep-19-10 10:48 AM |
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Dawkins is 100% right and I applaud him for speaking out on this. |
BrklynLiberal |
Sep-19-10 10:49 AM |
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It is a massive misconception that Hitler/Nazis were atheist.. |
and-justice-for-all |
Sep-19-10 11:01 AM |
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Funny. Hitler was raised as a Catholic and |
obxhead |
Sep-19-10 11:23 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-19-10 03:57 PM |
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And this is remotely relevant |
skepticscott |
Sep-19-10 04:14 PM |
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So you're anti-atheist AND anti-gay. |
trotsky |
Sep-19-10 04:36 PM |
#144 |
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