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... is prompted by those who have self-appointed themselves as the Left - and then go about trashing the opinions of anyone and everyone who don't agree with their every opinion as being "centrists", "moderates", or "New Democrats" - terms meant to be derisive as well as divisive.
Confining the discussion to DUers, if I may, there are too many who have wrapped themselves in the banner of THE Left, who ARE nothing more than whiners and complainers - rendering that particular label as something many here don't want to identify with, and leaving those who truly ARE left in their political leanings to be mis-identified as otherwise because they refuse to contribute to the whining and complaining.
"The Left is trying to save you." Who are "the Left"?
I have been labeled here as a centrist, a moderate, etc. (bad words all, to hear some tell the tale). And yet, despite my being a prolific writer here, no one knows my position on the things I have NOT written about. This holds true for many DUers, who tend to speak out on some subjects, but not others.
Do you know my position on the death penalty? Public schools versus private education? The appropriate place for sex education in school curriculum? Gun control - where, when, how? Electoral reform - what is needed and what isn't to achieve fair elections? Environmental concerns - what is feasibly implemented and what isn't? Where do I stand on DADT/DOMA? How about abortions for teen aged girls - with or without parental consent? The legalization of controlled prescriptions for addicting drugs such as heroin? The reinstitution of the draft? What about the importance, or non-importance of prosecuting the previous administration for war crimes - torture - treason?
I use myself as an example (because I am not in a position to speak for others here). But I think you get my drift - there are too many DUers being labeled as left, right, centrist - whatever - based not on their positions on important topics (many of which are unknown), but based on the opinions of those who have declared themselves as THE LEFT and dismiss anyone who doesn't fall into lockstep (yeah, I said LOCKSTEP) with those who don't swallow THEIR opinions and regurgitate them as accepted doctrine.
I've seen one too many (and haven't we all) DU posts of late about "the base" - everyone claiming to be the be-all and end-all thereof.
In truth, the "base" is a fluid thing - it changes from day to day, from one election cycle to the other. The current "base" of this president/administration is the people who support it NOW, and not yesterday. There are those who supported it six months ago, who no longer do - just as there are those who didn't support it yesterday, but do today. To claim you are "the base" of fans who support a sports team you abandoned years ago in order to root for an opposing team, and root against the team you once supported, means you are no longer part of the base of said team. It's as simple as that.
Criticism of any president, its administration and its policies, is part and parcel of democracy in action. That holds true when it's their guy in office, or one of our own.
But OPs that are consistently posted, day after day, week after week, about how everything said by this president is a "hit" on "the LEFT", how every policy is a nefarious means of undermining Democratic ideals, how every piece of good news about anything is twisted (with extraordinary effort) into being something negative or just-you-wait-and-see, down-the-line disaster - one has to wonder as to the motivation of said posters. And when they identify themselves as THE LEFT - well, it tends to give the alleged "left" a bad name.
I realize that by the lengthiness of this reply, I can be accused (and rightfully so) of having hijacked your thread. That was not my intent - but given the points raised in your OP, it seemed appropriate to speak out in this particular forum, and within the parameters of the discussion you have invited.
I mean no disrespect in doing so - as I have long respected your contribution to this site. But I must respectfully disagree with your assertion that the LEFT is here to save us - because too many who identify themselves as "the Left" these days have mistakenly (and/or deliberately) used that self-affixed label to advance opinions that have nothing to do with being a "leftist" Democrat - and leaves those who truly are on The Left to wonder at their motivation in doing so, and to question their true agenda.
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| -Where is all this "bad-mouthing" of the left coming from? |
kentuck |
Sep-17-10 11:25 PM |
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+1 nt |
mix |
Sep-17-10 11:27 PM |
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It is modern, fear based politics |
MadHound |
Sep-17-10 11:28 PM |
#2 |
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Swing voters are the Democratic base.. |
Fumesucker |
Sep-17-10 11:30 PM |
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I am their base and will not get caught voting GOP |
AzNick |
Sep-18-10 04:42 PM |
#184 |
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Maybe they can capture the Tea Party voters |
Jackpine Radical |
Sep-18-10 05:11 PM |
#192 |
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More complete and utter garbage. That barge is never late. |
cliffordu |
Sep-19-10 10:47 PM |
#254 |
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You are sounding far too |
Nite Owl |
Sep-17-10 11:30 PM |
#4 |
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It is guilt (projection) at failing to live up to their own promised policies |
Rex |
Sep-17-10 11:32 PM |
#5 |
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Look up Cassandra! |
lfairban |
Sep-18-10 01:06 PM |
#157 |
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+2 and kick!! |
jannyk |
Sep-17-10 11:32 PM |
#6 |
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I don't know what the base is. |
Kaleva |
Sep-17-10 11:33 PM |
#7 |
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That's a bit disingenuous... |
liberation |
Sep-18-10 04:26 PM |
#180 |
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The positions currently pushed by those of us on "the left" |
dflprincess |
Sep-17-10 11:34 PM |
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partisans only care about winning. but, if wins are coming at the expense of real people. |
nashville_brook |
Sep-18-10 09:40 AM |
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+1000. n/t |
NorthCarolina |
Sep-18-10 03:50 PM |
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Yep,often feels like we're defending policies that we would have fought against not that long ago. |
progressoid |
Sep-18-10 05:07 PM |
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Yup. |
Art_from_Ark |
Sep-20-10 11:43 PM |
#269 |
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"You cannot win on your present laurels. They are not that great. " |
ProSense |
Sep-17-10 11:34 PM |
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If the Republicans take the House in November it will be all impeachment all the time.. |
Fumesucker |
Sep-17-10 11:38 PM |
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Screw Republicans. |
ProSense |
Sep-17-10 11:41 PM |
#14 |
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I remember.. |
Fumesucker |
Sep-17-10 11:42 PM |
#15 |
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So what's your point |
ProSense |
Sep-17-10 11:48 PM |
#18 |
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My point is that if the Republicans win.. |
Fumesucker |
Sep-17-10 11:55 PM |
#23 |
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"The thing you have to admire about Republicans... " |
ProSense |
Sep-17-10 11:58 PM |
#24 |
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Underestimate your opponents at your peril.. |
Fumesucker |
Sep-18-10 12:07 AM |
#28 |
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My peril? |
ProSense |
Sep-18-10 12:12 AM |
#32 |
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You need to make up your mind.. |
Fumesucker |
Sep-18-10 12:19 AM |
#36 |
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What? |
ProSense |
Sep-18-10 12:24 AM |
#42 |
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You appear to have a short term memory deficit.. |
Fumesucker |
Sep-18-10 12:31 AM |
#45 |
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You seem to be missing |
ProSense |
Sep-18-10 12:33 AM |
#47 |
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I don't click on naked links.. n/t |
Fumesucker |
Sep-18-10 12:37 AM |
#49 |
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LOL thumbs up. |
speppin |
Sep-18-10 12:39 PM |
#146 |
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stop arguing with a table leg, Fumesucker |
Skittles |
Sep-18-10 08:58 PM |
#214 |
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Darrell Issa has already said he would look into impeachment right away |
NewJeffCT |
Sep-18-10 07:59 PM |
#211 |
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issa *could* look into impeachment anytime he wants, but... |
Amonester |
Sep-19-10 11:23 PM |
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They'll go all out on impeachment |
NewJeffCT |
Sep-20-10 04:19 AM |
#259 |
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The President's ability to do good things could well be ending. |
Orsino |
Sep-18-10 02:28 PM |
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So, 2006... |
Kall |
Sep-18-10 03:17 PM |
#174 |
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Oh please. |
babylonsister |
Sep-17-10 11:36 PM |
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I remember when Greenwald was a hero here to practically everyone.. |
Fumesucker |
Sep-17-10 11:40 PM |
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No, not funny at all. DU changed. We all had a target in idiot son |
babylonsister |
Sep-17-10 11:46 PM |
#16 |
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I liked Greenwald then.. |
Fumesucker |
Sep-17-10 11:52 PM |
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Shock and awe, people changed their minds when his criticisms |
Arkana |
Sep-18-10 10:46 AM |
#129 |
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Greenwald hasn't changed a bit. He's totally consistent in the standards he holds politicians to. |
katandmoon |
Sep-18-10 12:50 PM |
#148 |
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I take issue with the following part of your statement ......... |
Exilednight |
Sep-19-10 08:25 PM |
#249 |
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I still consider him a 'hero'. It is not Greenwald who has changed its the Party Leadership |
ThomWV |
Sep-18-10 07:10 AM |
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+1000 and thank you |
inna |
Sep-18-10 05:29 PM |
#195 |
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Well, |
ProSense |
Sep-17-10 11:40 PM |
#13 |
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No kidding. I'm SO sick of people trying to save me! |
babylonsister |
Sep-17-10 11:48 PM |
#17 |
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Laugh now. There was a time I might have. |
laughingliberal |
Sep-18-10 02:10 PM |
#164 |
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Sage words |
txlibdem |
Sep-18-10 03:19 PM |
#176 |
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People who think things like "world peace" or "social inequality" or "accesible healthcare for all". |
liberation |
Sep-18-10 04:33 PM |
#181 |
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If they save us anymore, we'll soon be back to Bush v. Gore. That's the other time... |
Tarheel_Dem |
Sep-17-10 11:54 PM |
#22 |
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Yeah, it's all the left's fault that Gore couldn't win his home state.. |
Fumesucker |
Sep-18-10 12:10 AM |
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Yeah. That's the spirit! |
Tarheel_Dem |
Sep-18-10 12:20 AM |
#38 |
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Reality bites, don't it.. n/t |
Fumesucker |
Sep-18-10 12:22 AM |
#40 |
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I'll admit it, your reality escapes me. |
Tarheel_Dem |
Sep-18-10 12:25 AM |
#43 |
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The reality where Gore didn't win Tennessee escapes you? |
Fumesucker |
Sep-18-10 12:32 AM |
#46 |
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Maybe it's the "fumes"? |
Tarheel_Dem |
Sep-18-10 12:41 AM |
#50 |
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Those are financial fumes I'm sucking.. |
Fumesucker |
Sep-18-10 12:55 AM |
#54 |
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My empathy extends to anyone down on his/her luck. Even you. (nt) |
Tarheel_Dem |
Sep-18-10 12:58 AM |
#55 |
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Gore's home state is the state that recalled his father from the Senate for the temerity of |
indepat |
Sep-18-10 09:24 AM |
#115 |
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So how did he get elected to the Senate in the first place? |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Sep-18-10 12:46 PM |
#147 |
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And then there's the role of Jeb and Katherine in that whole mess, |
QC |
Sep-18-10 12:52 PM |
#152 |
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And even they would have had no chance if Gore had |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Sep-18-10 12:54 PM |
#154 |
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Yes. I remember at first being stunned by what a dipshit Bush was, |
QC |
Sep-18-10 01:04 PM |
#156 |
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Was living out of my home state when Al was first elected to the Senate, but surely he campaigned |
indepat |
Sep-18-10 01:22 PM |
#158 |
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It was a different time. Gore first won his Senate seat in 1984. |
laughingliberal |
Sep-18-10 04:24 PM |
#179 |
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The left takes credit for Obama's win. why won't they take responsibility |
treestar |
Sep-18-10 05:43 PM |
#199 |
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+1000 |
Kahuna |
Sep-18-10 05:43 AM |
#105 |
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How in the hell was it the fault of the left that Jeb Bush & a 5 corrupt justices stole an election? |
laughingliberal |
Sep-18-10 02:12 PM |
#166 |
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Ralph Nader delivered the election to Republicans. |
suzie |
Sep-20-10 01:16 PM |
#265 |
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You are the best Pro, thanks! |
flamingdem |
Sep-18-10 12:20 AM |
#37 |
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If the leadership had listened to what we tried to tell them.. |
girl gone mad |
Sep-18-10 04:01 AM |
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That is complete and utter bullshit. |
Touchdown |
Sep-18-10 06:39 AM |
#108 |
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Stick your head in the sand much? |
babylonsister |
Sep-18-10 06:47 AM |
#109 |
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Yes. You are paranoid. |
Touchdown |
Sep-18-10 06:56 AM |
#111 |
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You're right, I am in deep despair, doctor. |
babylonsister |
Sep-18-10 07:31 AM |
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Name removed |
Sep-18-10 01:52 PM |
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You are a fool if you think Greenwald takes joy in Obama cementing Bush policies |
seaglass |
Sep-18-10 11:12 AM |
#134 |
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It appears that President Obama |
chill_wind |
Sep-17-10 11:48 PM |
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Do tell. Do Dems need to raise $ and who is best at it, besides |
babylonsister |
Sep-17-10 11:51 PM |
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I thought it was 30K a plate. |
emilyg |
Sep-18-10 12:51 AM |
#51 |
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Yeah. $10k might get you pie and a cup of coffee. n/t |
QC |
Sep-18-10 12:52 AM |
#53 |
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Well that would explain a lot. |
chill_wind |
Sep-18-10 01:17 AM |
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exactly, because baseless hyperbole like you just espoused is awesome. |
dionysus |
Sep-18-10 01:20 AM |
#66 |
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"And gosh, we haven’t yet brought about world peace.." |
chill_wind |
Sep-18-10 01:27 AM |
#72 |
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Hey, he has a Nobel Peace Price... so he can laugh about it. |
liberation |
Sep-18-10 04:36 PM |
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Sep-18-10 12:02 AM |
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Ditto. |
Tarheel_Dem |
Sep-18-10 12:06 AM |
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How do you make a base out of a ball of fire anyway? |
HughMoran |
Sep-18-10 12:07 AM |
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About the same way you do out of a mound of jello.. |
Fumesucker |
Sep-18-10 12:11 AM |
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LOL, really! |
maryf |
Sep-18-10 04:54 PM |
#189 |
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you make a fire out of tree branches with it. |
dionysus |
Sep-18-10 01:21 AM |
#67 |
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Horseshit |
HughMoran |
Sep-18-10 12:06 AM |
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What was it you were doing to get the vote out for Dems, Hugh? |
Hello_Kitty |
Sep-18-10 12:36 AM |
#48 |
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you again? |
HughMoran |
Sep-18-10 09:36 AM |
#117 |
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I canvassed today. 3 hours. |
Hello_Kitty |
Sep-18-10 09:47 PM |
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The problem is "the left" doesn't know its ass from its elbow. |
quiet.american |
Sep-18-10 12:12 AM |
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I like your logo. |
kentuck |
Sep-18-10 12:15 AM |
#34 |
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Alrighty - cheers. :) nt |
quiet.american |
Sep-18-10 12:16 AM |
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Speak to it! |
Tarheel_Dem |
Sep-18-10 12:22 AM |
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Could you provide some evidentiary support for the left not knowing its ass from its elbow? |
LooseWilly |
Sep-18-10 12:58 AM |
#56 |
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All I have to do is refer to your assumption of "sir." |
quiet.american |
Sep-18-10 01:01 AM |
#57 |
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The other poster mistook your gender, therefore s/he's WRONG! |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Sep-18-10 10:16 AM |
#124 |
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No I don't see... maybe you ought to answer the questions |
walldude |
Sep-18-10 02:05 PM |
#161 |
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OK, so we'll take that as a "No". eom |
NorthCarolina |
Sep-18-10 03:01 PM |
#173 |
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"what" are they trying "to" "say"? |
dionysus |
Sep-18-10 01:24 AM |
#70 |
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The DLCers have redefined "far left" to mean anyone who is to the left of Nixon |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Sep-18-10 12:52 PM |
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We sure did last Election Day. Maybe you should consider growing up yourself |
EFerrari |
Sep-18-10 04:38 AM |
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It's funny that they can see the extremes on the right but cannot |
Kahuna |
Sep-18-10 05:44 AM |
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There's nothing "extreme" about the left in this party. |
EFerrari |
Sep-18-10 07:05 PM |
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If that were true, then the majority of Americans would agree with you.. |
Kahuna |
Sep-19-10 05:46 AM |
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This leftie gets the message and Obama will never get another vote from me. |
katandmoon |
Sep-18-10 12:51 PM |
#149 |
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You're so far to one extreme that you're almost out of society |
treestar |
Sep-19-10 10:41 AM |
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You are the one.. |
sendero |
Sep-19-10 09:37 PM |
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We do know when someone is trying to shove large objects up our elbow.. |
girl gone mad |
Sep-19-10 11:08 PM |
#256 |
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Mostly from the left. And the right. Oh, yeah, and the center. |
TygrBright |
Sep-18-10 12:23 AM |
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K&R |
me b zola |
Sep-18-10 12:28 AM |
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Sep-18-10 12:51 AM |
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Perhaps the bad-mouthing of the left ... |
NanceGreggs |
Sep-18-10 01:02 AM |
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trashing the opinions of anyone and everyone who don't agree with...(them) |
G_j |
Sep-18-10 01:09 AM |
#60 |
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I think it's amusing how we weren't all "whiners and complainers" two years ago.. |
Fumesucker |
Sep-18-10 01:16 AM |
#62 |
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You got it. |
Drunken Irishman |
Sep-18-10 08:10 PM |
#212 |
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Then perhaps you have not read some of the threads I have, |
SeattleGirl |
Sep-18-10 01:17 AM |
#65 |
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Here's a post I put up on Jan 21, 2009.. the day after Obama's inauguration.. |
Fumesucker |
Sep-18-10 01:29 AM |
#74 |
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When one's only motivation ... |
NanceGreggs |
Sep-18-10 01:27 AM |
#73 |
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I don't even understand my own motivations all the time.. |
Fumesucker |
Sep-18-10 01:32 AM |
#76 |
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I don't pretend to divine them ... |
NanceGreggs |
Sep-18-10 01:46 AM |
#80 |
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Well, you used the phrase.. |
Fumesucker |
Sep-18-10 01:51 AM |
#81 |
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When one only posts ... |
NanceGreggs |
Sep-18-10 01:54 AM |
#84 |
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Eh, I don't bother searching to see what others might be doing. |
Fumesucker |
Sep-18-10 02:02 AM |
#86 |
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you still seem to be referring to specific individuals |
G_j |
Sep-18-10 02:02 AM |
#87 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
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Sep-18-10 02:10 AM |
#88 |
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well then you must be talking about specific people |
G_j |
Sep-18-10 01:37 AM |
#77 |
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And who are ... |
NanceGreggs |
Sep-18-10 01:51 AM |
#82 |
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I'll just refer you to the OP |
G_j |
Sep-18-10 01:56 AM |
#85 |
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Great images....and absolutely correct. |
cliffordu |
Sep-19-10 11:08 PM |
#257 |
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No kidding... |
liberation |
Sep-18-10 04:40 PM |
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In true Nance style. This should have it's own thread. |
Tarheel_Dem |
Sep-18-10 01:15 AM |
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great post nance! |
dionysus |
Sep-18-10 01:25 AM |
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I do apologize to anyone that took the post so personal... |
kentuck |
Sep-18-10 01:31 AM |
#75 |
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I, too, don't give a rat's ass ... |
NanceGreggs |
Sep-18-10 02:36 AM |
#89 |
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Self appointed leftists? What, now we're supposed to wait for the nod? |
EFerrari |
Sep-18-10 04:36 AM |
#99 |
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Haven't you heard? |
NanceGreggs |
Sep-18-10 04:41 AM |
#102 |
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Is this like some low rent replay of Invasion of the Body Snatchers? |
EFerrari |
Sep-18-10 04:58 AM |
#104 |
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....... |
TK421 |
Sep-18-10 12:32 PM |
#145 |
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It's a nice change from the bad community theatre productions |
QC |
Sep-18-10 12:51 PM |
#150 |
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+1 |
LostinVA |
Sep-18-10 09:43 AM |
#121 |
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There is a "base." But the base isn't a monolith. And you don't get |
Kahuna |
Sep-19-10 05:51 AM |
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Sep-18-10 06:51 AM |
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A-fricken-men Nance! |
HughMoran |
Sep-18-10 09:37 AM |
#118 |
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Good point.. people like me are the base.. |
Cha |
Sep-18-10 11:35 AM |
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Perhaps you don't understand the difference between the left and liberalism |
Big Bill Jefferson |
Sep-18-10 12:12 PM |
#141 |
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Depth and class - |
TBF |
Sep-18-10 02:19 PM |
#167 |
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Now that is one hell of a post. |
Autumn |
Sep-18-10 04:12 PM |
#178 |
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Thank you!!! |
maryf |
Sep-18-10 05:18 PM |
#193 |
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Wow !!! - Welcome To DU, Big Bill Jefferson !!! |
WillyT |
Sep-18-10 05:30 PM |
#196 |
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I was not speaking to ... |
NanceGreggs |
Sep-21-10 06:48 PM |
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Excellent post, Nance! |
Bobbie Jo |
Sep-18-10 12:14 PM |
#142 |
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Where do you stand regarding the class structure... |
maryf |
Sep-18-10 05:06 PM |
#190 |
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Who is the left and on what issues do you disagree them? |
rhett o rick |
Sep-18-10 07:48 PM |
#210 |
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I don't attack the left ... |
NanceGreggs |
Sep-19-10 12:44 AM |
#224 |
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I stand with Nance |
Hekate |
Sep-19-10 02:37 AM |
#228 |
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Brilliant post ... |
RoyGBiv |
Sep-19-10 02:46 AM |
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Excellent, excellent post! |
Spazito |
Sep-19-10 12:01 PM |
#240 |
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+1,000,000 |
Tarheel_Dem |
Sep-19-10 12:51 PM |
#242 |
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Where do you stand on class divide? on poverty? on the needs of the people |
maryf |
Sep-19-10 03:57 PM |
#246 |
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I have never seen any reason why ... |
NanceGreggs |
Sep-19-10 04:47 PM |
#247 |
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Thank you. Maybe? |
maryf |
Sep-19-10 09:13 PM |
#250 |
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Because I don't see them "bucking it" ... |
NanceGreggs |
Sep-19-10 11:00 PM |
#255 |
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I'm 54 and becoming rapidly more impatient... |
maryf |
Sep-20-10 04:37 PM |
#267 |
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+1000 |
treestar |
Sep-19-10 08:05 PM |
#248 |
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Yes! |
suzie |
Sep-20-10 01:10 PM |
#264 |
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I have to say I am a bit surprised ... |
NanceGreggs |
Sep-20-10 11:27 PM |
#268 |
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i think there's a lack of reason and common sense around here. |
elana i am |
Sep-18-10 01:08 AM |
#59 |
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Watch out there, you're using logic, and that doesn't go over well here. |
Tarheel_Dem |
Sep-18-10 01:23 AM |
#69 |
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What did you call the very same behavior when Bush was president? |
Fumesucker |
Sep-18-10 01:42 AM |
#78 |
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ahem... |
G_j |
Sep-18-10 01:43 AM |
#79 |
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I'm guessing "useful" |
JVS |
Sep-18-10 01:53 AM |
#83 |
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My mistake. I really didn't know who I was commiserating with. But |
Tarheel_Dem |
Sep-18-10 04:20 AM |
#96 |
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You didn't answer the question.. |
Fumesucker |
Sep-18-10 09:40 AM |
#119 |
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Pragmatism implies a lack of ideology, and ideology is a defining characteristic of Politics. |
liberation |
Sep-18-10 04:50 PM |
#187 |
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I hope you have a flame retardant suit handy. "Pragmatism" is a |
Kahuna |
Sep-19-10 06:01 AM |
#235 |
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Corn. |
VMI Dem |
Sep-18-10 01:16 AM |
#63 |
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The right. |
JVS |
Sep-18-10 01:22 AM |
#68 |
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the self absorption of the self appointed 'saviors' reaches the heights |
grantcart |
Sep-18-10 03:07 AM |
#90 |
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You make a mistake in your post. There is a contradiction |
RandomThoughts |
Sep-18-10 03:18 AM |
#91 |
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"My" authority is Gallup which has shown that the President's support |
grantcart |
Sep-18-10 03:54 AM |
#93 |
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Who appointed Gallup as your authority? |
RandomThoughts |
Sep-18-10 03:59 AM |
#94 |
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Exactly the same kind of dissonance that the religious right would come up with |
grantcart |
Sep-18-10 11:26 AM |
#136 |
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Who are these "scientists" to tell me the world isn't 6000 years old! |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Sep-19-10 02:21 AM |
#226 |
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I was thinking that perhaps we were going to rely on the revelations of a Mayan codex |
suzie |
Sep-20-10 01:07 PM |
#263 |
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Thank You! I have a feeling the "self appointed Bishops" will soon be |
Tarheel_Dem |
Sep-18-10 03:27 AM |
#92 |
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Omg. Someone else had an opinion. How did *that* happen. |
EFerrari |
Sep-18-10 04:27 AM |
#98 |
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+1 |
DCBob |
Sep-18-10 04:41 AM |
#101 |
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Indeed. |
JTFrog |
Sep-18-10 07:47 AM |
#114 |
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I officially appoint myself chief of my opinions. |
L0oniX |
Sep-18-10 12:04 PM |
#140 |
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Hear, hear |
treestar |
Sep-18-10 05:45 PM |
#201 |
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what a disgusting, malicious, slandering post. |
inna |
Sep-18-10 06:34 PM |
#204 |
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Its hard not to feel negative things about those who constantly kick you in the teeth... |
DCBob |
Sep-18-10 04:27 AM |
#97 |
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Precisely! |
girl gone mad |
Sep-18-10 06:12 PM |
#202 |
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Its nothing more than they're trying to throttle us on the internet |
madokie |
Sep-18-10 04:45 AM |
#103 |
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Please don't save us, bro. Every time you try to "save" us it ends |
Kahuna |
Sep-18-10 05:46 AM |
#107 |
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Can you provide some examples? |
girl gone mad |
Sep-18-10 06:13 PM |
#203 |
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I'll give you "the" example. George Bush because the "left" supported nader. |
Kahuna |
Sep-19-10 05:47 AM |
#232 |
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wtf are you even babbling about. provide examples or retract this inflammatory bs. |
inna |
Sep-18-10 07:24 PM |
#209 |
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As Steve Martin would say, excuuuuse me. Does nader ring a bell to you? |
Kahuna |
Sep-19-10 05:49 AM |
#233 |
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excellent post, kentuck. |
nashville_brook |
Sep-18-10 09:29 AM |
#116 |
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you confuse a bunch of reactionary screamers on the internet with "The Left". Stupid mistake. |
KittyWampus |
Sep-18-10 10:13 AM |
#122 |
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You mean like Bob Herbert, Robert Reich, Paul Krugman and Michael Moore? Thanks for the info. |
Better Believe It |
Sep-18-10 11:09 AM |
#132 |
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And, of course, he professional left.. |
Cha |
Sep-18-10 11:26 AM |
#135 |
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K&R |
Yuugal |
Sep-18-10 10:15 AM |
#123 |
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It's not the Left being criticized, it is the "Left" |
PBS Poll-435 |
Sep-18-10 10:16 AM |
#125 |
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Modern liberalism and the assault against the left |
Big Bill Jefferson |
Sep-18-10 10:18 AM |
#126 |
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^ Eloquent and unassailably true. ^ |
Mimosa |
Sep-18-10 10:28 PM |
#221 |
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Wow. Excellent comments. |
chill_wind |
Sep-19-10 10:07 AM |
#236 |
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The Rule Of Unintended Comedy (TROUC) |
Stinky The Clown |
Sep-18-10 10:28 AM |
#127 |
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LOL. |
EFerrari |
Sep-18-10 01:00 PM |
#155 |
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Who are you, Ysanne Isard? |
Arkana |
Sep-18-10 10:45 AM |
#128 |
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Really? Isard? Could you come up with a more |
walldude |
Sep-18-10 02:07 PM |
#162 |
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I think it applies particularly well. |
Arkana |
Sep-18-10 02:11 PM |
#165 |
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Well it might but there are probably 3 or 4 people on all of DU |
walldude |
Sep-18-10 05:18 PM |
#194 |
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True, but I just finished reading an Expanded Universe book |
Arkana |
Sep-18-10 05:44 PM |
#200 |
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Antilles/Celchu 2012! |
nemo137 |
Sep-19-10 02:44 AM |
#229 |
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Very good post. K/R n/t |
Autumn |
Sep-18-10 10:59 AM |
#130 |
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the media takes ANYTHING negative from the left and expounds on it |
spanone |
Sep-18-10 11:04 AM |
#131 |
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Yeah! I can't wait to get back to the Bush policies, how about you??? |
Imagevision |
Sep-18-10 11:10 AM |
#133 |
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get back? |
frylock |
Sep-19-10 12:49 AM |
#225 |
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The "Left" isn't being bad mouthed. Rather there are attempts |
NJmaverick |
Sep-18-10 11:44 AM |
#138 |
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Define "damage" as it relates to what you are desiring to control - |
TBF |
Sep-18-10 02:23 PM |
#168 |
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Smug people think they know best, by definition |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Sep-18-10 11:52 AM |
#139 |
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The administration has to have someone to blame for it's sell-outs and failures. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Sep-18-10 12:16 PM |
#143 |
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Yup. And they say us lefties are self-defeating? |
katandmoon |
Sep-18-10 12:52 PM |
#153 |
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+1 nt |
TBF |
Sep-18-10 02:28 PM |
#171 |
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I can't figure out why they keep taking pot shots... |
walldude |
Sep-18-10 04:46 PM |
#186 |
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It's coming from DLC. |
Individualist |
Sep-18-10 12:19 PM |
#144 |
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Excellent post - |
TBF |
Sep-18-10 02:02 PM |
#160 |
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FWIW Your post was thoughtful Kentuck! |
Touchdown |
Sep-18-10 02:07 PM |
#163 |
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The Left's various ideologies mean... |
Orsino |
Sep-18-10 02:25 PM |
#169 |
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where is the criticism coming from? |
placton |
Sep-18-10 02:44 PM |
#172 |
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The issues. That`s what I care about. |
democrank |
Sep-18-10 03:17 PM |
#175 |
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Big problem here is that |
Panaconda |
Sep-18-10 04:45 PM |
#185 |
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Exactly |
Kltpzyxm |
Sep-18-10 04:52 PM |
#188 |
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Well, there is only one thing left to do: |
ProSense |
Sep-18-10 05:35 PM |
#197 |
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Why won't the positions change? They changed in January, 2009, didn't they? |
metapunditedgy |
Sep-18-10 09:28 PM |
#215 |
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The not left |
treestar |
Sep-18-10 05:41 PM |
#198 |
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Lmao. Without the Democractic wing of this party, you'd have to change the slogan |
EFerrari |
Sep-18-10 07:17 PM |
#208 |
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I would love for you to tell African Americans (an undisputed cornerstone of the base and 91% of |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Sep-19-10 02:28 AM |
#227 |
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Why on Earth would I do such a thing? |
EFerrari |
Sep-19-10 02:20 PM |
#243 |
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So would I. |
suzie |
Sep-20-10 01:30 PM |
#266 |
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When did they vote with Bush? |
treestar |
Sep-19-10 10:39 AM |
#237 |
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MoveOn was founded to counter the attack on Clinton. |
EFerrari |
Sep-19-10 02:23 PM |
#244 |
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What did you do to elect Dems today? |
Hello_Kitty |
Sep-18-10 09:52 PM |
#218 |
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Whether in power or not |
sulphurdunn |
Sep-18-10 06:49 PM |
#205 |
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it is a coordinated Coup to overthrow the elected government>link>> |
sam sarrha |
Sep-18-10 06:52 PM |
#206 |
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THANK YOU |
Skittles |
Sep-18-10 08:57 PM |
#213 |
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Absolutely. |
MickeyD |
Sep-18-10 09:30 PM |
#216 |
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What I object to the loudest is the same shit people here were objecting to when it was being |
JoeyT |
Sep-18-10 10:02 PM |
#219 |
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Absolutely. Well said. n/t |
chill_wind |
Sep-18-10 10:56 PM |
#223 |
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Great post, kentuck. Recommend. nt |
bertman |
Sep-18-10 10:09 PM |
#220 |
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K&R n/t |
Mimosa |
Sep-18-10 10:34 PM |
#222 |
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We need to vote, vote, vote! |
AmerVoicesUnited |
Sep-19-10 10:57 AM |
#239 |
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insulting your base, their organizations, and pundits who express their views seems |
yurbud |
Sep-19-10 12:07 PM |
#241 |
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That's the clearest explanation I've heard so far. n/t |
EFerrari |
Sep-19-10 02:26 PM |
#245 |
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You mean like some people have been doing to Obama and many of his progressive supporters |
Radical Activist |
Sep-19-10 09:56 PM |
#252 |
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Neither the President nor most of his supporters have ever suggested any resting on laurels. |
Radical Activist |
Sep-19-10 10:00 PM |
#253 |
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Where from?? Why its them DIVIDERS of course....the GOP sends their peeps to make trouble and divide |
opihimoimoi |
Sep-20-10 05:44 AM |
#260 |
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Limbaugh started the modern meme during the 1980s, but it has always existed to some extent. |
DailyGrind51 |
Sep-20-10 06:05 AM |
#261 |
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Well we can start with knocking off Paul... |
MaeScott |
Sep-20-10 06:46 AM |
#262 |