| -Full Transcripts of Obama "mocking" Liberals |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-17-10 07:58 PM |
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A bit of context is an amazing thing, |
janx |
Sep-17-10 07:59 PM |
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Yep, and was omitting, "Now, the second reason I'm telling you this is because" really an accident? |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-17-10 08:06 PM |
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No, it wasn't an accident. |
janx |
Sep-17-10 08:17 PM |
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Prediction: this will fall on deaf ears |
EstimatedProphet |
Sep-17-10 08:00 PM |
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Never mind |
Gman |
Sep-17-10 08:01 PM |
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If you are talking to the OP, you might want to read what he says. n/t |
Subdivisions |
Sep-17-10 08:08 PM |
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How about... |
Tx4obama |
Sep-17-10 08:04 PM |
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How about Obama just sticks to policy instead of |
walldude |
Sep-18-10 04:40 PM |
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Yep, the healthcare bill is so great they are |
golddigger |
Sep-17-10 08:04 PM |
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Imainge taking away the clause that disallows a cecellation based on preexisting conditions |
Sheepshank |
Sep-17-10 08:34 PM |
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Best to say help out the American people. |
RandomThoughts |
Sep-17-10 08:04 PM |
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The point of this thread is he did not "mock" anyone. But I'll address your reasonable points. |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-17-10 08:13 PM |
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The problem is that a glass half full IS also half empty. |
JDPriestly |
Sep-18-10 04:50 PM |
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Let's take the example of Lieberman. |
JDPriestly |
Sep-18-10 05:02 PM |
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OK. Who predicted something like this would be blown up as soon as Obama announced Elizabeth |
Pirate Smile |
Sep-17-10 08:06 PM |
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K&R. n/t |
Subdivisions |
Sep-17-10 08:07 PM |
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Obama was right on with these comments |
HughMoran |
Sep-17-10 08:08 PM |
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Thanks USAP. |
Scurrilous |
Sep-17-10 08:15 PM |
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Yep, telling the whole story certainly turns it into a different |
SeattleGirl |
Sep-17-10 08:17 PM |
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Democrats DO see the glass as half-empty--that's why we continue to try |
Arkana |
Sep-17-10 08:29 PM |
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Every nation has universal health care BUT USA.... and that's an imaginary "glass half full"...???? |
defendandprotect |
Sep-19-10 05:15 PM |
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Nice work. Again. |
JNelson6563 |
Sep-17-10 08:30 PM |
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"you know who you are" lol! +1 |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-17-10 08:32 PM |
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Oh, no! |
janx |
Sep-17-10 08:34 PM |
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He is ridiculing those who question instead of falling in line. |
madfloridian |
Sep-18-10 05:30 PM |
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Julie, I know who I am. |
madfloridian |
Sep-18-10 05:22 PM |
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I didn't see education even mentioned. |
JNelson6563 |
Sep-19-10 12:53 PM |
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"those who live to criticize or search tirelessly for something to take issue with." |
madfloridian |
Sep-19-10 02:20 PM |
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I know, right? |
JNelson6563 |
Sep-19-10 03:53 PM |
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I know. Man the way some people act around here |
golddigger |
Sep-17-10 08:45 PM |
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Let me guess: |
ProSense |
Sep-17-10 09:11 PM |
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Dude... It's A Woodchuck |
WillyT |
Sep-17-10 08:56 PM |
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Ha! |
progressoid |
Sep-18-10 10:18 AM |
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Taking comments out of context is an effective tactic on the right... |
Ozymanithrax |
Sep-17-10 09:06 PM |
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It's less agenda driven than it is $$$ driven. n/t |
janx |
Sep-17-10 09:38 PM |
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Who on the left would make money from misquoting the President... |
Ozymanithrax |
Sep-17-10 10:34 PM |
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The media want to make money, Ozy. |
janx |
Sep-17-10 10:55 PM |
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The media, in this case, were not taking the comments out of context. |
Ozymanithrax |
Sep-17-10 10:57 PM |
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I misunderstood you and am sorry for that. |
janx |
Sep-17-10 11:05 PM |
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I most cases, about 5 minutes of research will reveal the truth. |
Ozymanithrax |
Sep-17-10 11:15 PM |
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My sarcasm detector wasn't working... |
janx |
Sep-17-10 11:22 PM |
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I think it's time to recognize its also the subject of the naive members of the left. |
izzybeans |
Sep-17-10 09:48 PM |
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I think you are far more gracious than I... |
Ozymanithrax |
Sep-17-10 10:32 PM |
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LOL. Exactly. When the president and his administration habitually knock the left |
EFerrari |
Sep-17-10 11:16 PM |
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Old saying: "You can't wake up a man pretending to be asleep" ....!! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-19-10 05:24 PM |
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If you don't "mistrust" DLC-Rahm and Obama's Wall Street team .... |
defendandprotect |
Sep-19-10 05:22 PM |
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Deleted message |
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Sep-17-10 11:06 PM |
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Mockery must be in the eye of the beholder... |
Ozymanithrax |
Sep-17-10 11:17 PM |
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I am just coming to this now but |
Mojorabbit |
Sep-18-10 11:58 AM |
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The Public Option would never have passed the Senate. |
Ozymanithrax |
Sep-18-10 01:45 PM |
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There was never a full court press to get it to pass. nt |
Mojorabbit |
Sep-18-10 04:25 PM |
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That was your belief...I remember the Republicans. |
Ozymanithrax |
Sep-18-10 05:06 PM |
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Good ... let's start with 2012 -- we need a liberal/progressive presidential candidate -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-19-10 05:28 PM |
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Exactly ... and the "exhalted" Baucus Committee was the log jam ....liberal Dems in Congress wanted |
defendandprotect |
Sep-19-10 05:26 PM |
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Yeah yeah and I guess completing the sentence that was cut in half doesn't either. |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-17-10 11:20 PM |
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Is there another thread |
Control-Z |
Sep-18-10 05:44 AM |
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At DU, most of us expect readers to read the whole of what |
janx |
Sep-17-10 11:24 PM |
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The folks getting their panties in a twist are pretty much proving his point. |
grace0418 |
Sep-17-10 09:13 PM |
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+1 n/t |
tammywammy |
Sep-17-10 10:35 PM |
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k & r |
canetoad |
Sep-17-10 10:40 PM |
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That's your interpretation, |
MadHound |
Sep-17-10 10:45 PM |
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No, MadHound, that is the transcript. |
janx |
Sep-17-10 11:01 PM |
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Sep-17-10 11:10 PM |
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You try way too hard. It's really transparent. |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-17-10 11:27 PM |
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Sep-17-10 11:40 PM |
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No, I did not say that at all. |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-17-10 11:48 PM |
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so what? It's not funny! |
G_j |
Sep-18-10 12:11 AM |
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Absolutely |
Time for change |
Sep-18-10 07:19 PM |
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Ah, I see you really don't give a damn about the wars ending then, |
MadHound |
Sep-17-10 11:14 PM |
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That's a fallacious assumption, MadHound. |
janx |
Sep-17-10 11:19 PM |
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you are making the assumptions |
G_j |
Sep-17-10 11:22 PM |
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Nope. |
janx |
Sep-17-10 11:43 PM |
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nice try |
G_j |
Sep-17-10 11:49 PM |
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You're just mad that his assumption was right. |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-18-10 12:09 AM |
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When I see people basing opinions on biased sources |
janx |
Sep-18-10 12:12 AM |
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You're assuming I'm an idiot then |
MadHound |
Sep-17-10 11:24 PM |
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Incapable of finding the full transcript? No. Disinterested? Absolutely. |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-17-10 11:36 PM |
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"obviously shows he wasn't mocking anyone" |
G_j |
Sep-17-10 11:44 PM |
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Oh, reeeaaalllly...... |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-17-10 11:58 PM |
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yes, reeeaaalllly.... |
G_j |
Sep-18-10 12:04 AM |
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Is this the part where I'm not supposed to notice you completely dodged the question? |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-18-10 12:06 AM |
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so he contradicts himself in tone |
G_j |
Sep-18-10 12:18 AM |
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When people are "desperately needed" they are acknowledged and respected .... |
defendandprotect |
Sep-18-10 06:43 PM |
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Again, it is your interpretation |
MadHound |
Sep-17-10 11:47 PM |
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Ok, since you *honestly* interpret that way answer me this. |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-17-10 11:53 PM |
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Again, this is all about interpretation, |
MadHound |
Sep-18-10 12:10 AM |
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Supposedly in full context it looks like "mocking" - and yet you can't even answer a simple question |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-18-10 12:13 AM |
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Do you have some sort of posting tourette syndrom? |
MadHound |
Sep-18-10 12:18 AM |
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Could it be that those in attendance and who he was speaking to agree with his polices? |
unapatriciated |
Sep-18-10 05:24 PM |
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Well that's the first thing I do. |
unapatriciated |
Sep-18-10 05:09 PM |
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I'm making no assumptions at all, let alone that you are an idiot. |
janx |
Sep-17-10 11:48 PM |
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"Manipulated and scared?" |
MadHound |
Sep-17-10 11:56 PM |
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And let me guess |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-18-10 12:00 AM |
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And you know what they say about ass u me |
MadHound |
Sep-18-10 12:12 AM |
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Do you deny it? |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-18-10 12:16 AM |
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Look, it's getting late, I'm moving on to bed, and I've already answered this question as well |
MadHound |
Sep-18-10 12:20 AM |
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I'm not trying to make a case for myself. |
janx |
Sep-18-10 12:03 AM |
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No, you are trying to fit me into your own little cosmology and using assumptions to do so |
MadHound |
Sep-18-10 12:15 AM |
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I don't have a little cosmology. I have a very big cosmology! n/t |
janx |
Sep-18-10 12:24 AM |
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And it is constantly expanding.... n/t |
POAS |
Sep-18-10 10:21 AM |
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None of this really matters, because Jane HamPster & Mr. Greenwald told me... |
Tarheel_Dem |
Sep-17-10 10:48 PM |
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And "gosh, we haven’t yet brought about world peace and -- (laughter.) |
G_j |
Sep-17-10 10:50 PM |
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World peace, always a huge laugh line. n/t |
EFerrari |
Sep-17-10 11:09 PM |
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almost expected a Kumbiya reference... nt |
G_j |
Sep-17-10 11:13 PM |
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WTF, nothing about wanting ponies???? I am disappointed! |
liberation |
Sep-18-10 04:02 PM |
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so now besides single payer health care (which was never on the list) you.. |
Whisp |
Sep-18-10 01:03 AM |
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you know what is frustrating? |
G_j |
Sep-18-10 02:12 AM |
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The "list" ....?? 76%+ of the public wanted single payer/government run health care ... |
defendandprotect |
Sep-18-10 05:02 PM |
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+1000% --- |
defendandprotect |
Sep-18-10 04:50 PM |
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The Marvins will continue the pearl-clutching. Can't have unity or positive attitudes here, nosirree |
backscatter712 |
Sep-17-10 11:28 PM |
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Anyone want to explain to me |
Capitalocracy |
Sep-17-10 11:46 PM |
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It was clearly explained in the OP |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-18-10 12:01 AM |
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you are incredibly condescending |
G_j |
Sep-18-10 12:23 AM |
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"one might even say, arrogant, but I suppose that's OK because you are superior." |
TheWatcher |
Sep-18-10 03:40 AM |
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Oh For Fuck Sake |
Binka |
Sep-18-10 12:31 AM |
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Your loss, if your reading this then |
POAS |
Sep-18-10 09:18 AM |
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Gee, I read the OP |
Capitalocracy |
Sep-18-10 02:20 AM |
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The OP explains these remarks as humor that pokes fun among friends, Democrats |
EFerrari |
Sep-18-10 02:06 PM |
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Agree -- and, of course, there is precedent for these comments ... |
defendandprotect |
Sep-18-10 05:14 PM |
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No, you're not "condescending" ...you're |
Cha |
Sep-18-10 09:35 AM |
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Yes ... we who voted for Obama are anxious to see him "mocking" us ....!!! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-18-10 05:05 PM |
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Nope because it doesn't. |
EFerrari |
Sep-18-10 01:55 PM |
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I'm trying to figure out what it's in reply to ... presume there was an other report today... |
defendandprotect |
Sep-18-10 05:03 PM |
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Kick. Rec. Thank you for facts, transcripts, context. Too many people have lost their sense of humor |
Hekate |
Sep-18-10 04:15 AM |
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Thanks for all the facts. |
proteus_lives |
Sep-18-10 04:49 AM |
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+1. I'm on the receiving end of this and do not take offense. n/t |
rucky |
Sep-18-10 05:58 AM |
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K&R |
NJmaverick |
Sep-18-10 08:20 AM |
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Kicked and recommended for providing the entire context. |
MineralMan |
Sep-18-10 08:57 AM |
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K&R |
firedupdem |
Sep-18-10 09:29 AM |
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K&R well written and much appreciated.. |
Peacetrain |
Sep-18-10 09:34 AM |
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This shouldn't have to be spelled out to grown adults |
ecstatic |
Sep-18-10 09:36 AM |
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What if I'm a LIBERAL AND a DEMOCRAT but NO Beaver avatar? |
progressoid |
Sep-18-10 09:40 AM |
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Then you belong in a different category. |
janx |
Sep-18-10 09:44 AM |
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"you could just give in and adopt the beaver and display it proudly." |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-18-10 02:51 PM |
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It's good to see what was said by the President in full context instead... |
Spazito |
Sep-18-10 10:21 AM |
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K & R |
tandot |
Sep-18-10 12:38 PM |
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can you imagine if he had said: |
G_j |
Sep-18-10 01:49 PM |
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No, I can't imagine if he had said that. |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-18-10 01:54 PM |
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sorry to disappoint |
G_j |
Sep-18-10 01:59 PM |
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Then you're proving Obama's point.... you're acting like a petulant 4-year-old |
scheming daemons |
Sep-19-10 05:31 PM |
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Thank you for the true statement. |
azmouse |
Sep-18-10 01:53 PM |
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IMO the context doesn't change it very much. |
DireStrike |
Sep-18-10 03:35 PM |
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I'm shocked. |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-18-10 03:39 PM |
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So you wanna address what I said? -nt- |
DireStrike |
Sep-18-10 03:41 PM |
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Addressing what you said would be like addressing..... |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-18-10 03:54 PM |
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It think a simple "no, I am not going to address what you said" would have sufficed |
liberation |
Sep-18-10 04:17 PM |
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So you don't. I didn't think so. |
DireStrike |
Sep-18-10 04:36 PM |
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"At least an attempt to get a public option" |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-18-10 04:45 PM |
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I disagree. |
DireStrike |
Sep-18-10 10:18 PM |
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I agree the extra context alters the tone |
whatchamacallit |
Sep-18-10 03:57 PM |
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Some folks just ain't happy unless their panties are completely bunched up. n/t |
Vickers |
Sep-18-10 04:01 PM |
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fail |
frylock |
Sep-18-10 04:04 PM |
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So... |
Kall |
Sep-18-10 04:07 PM |
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I don't care about the mocking, what concerns me is that he thinks the gargabge known as HCR |
joeybee12 |
Sep-18-10 04:41 PM |
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How is this supposed to make it better? |
Jakes Progress |
Sep-18-10 04:45 PM |
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Guess my panties are still in a knot. The lack of a public option |
Vinca |
Sep-18-10 04:46 PM |
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They're going to be in a knot regardless of what Obama says or does |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-18-10 04:51 PM |
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That's not true at all and it's very annoying you would say that. |
Vinca |
Sep-18-10 04:57 PM |
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Which provision of the healthcare bill do you want to appeal? |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-18-10 05:01 PM |
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LBJ didn't have the votes for Medicare, either, but he got it done. |
Vinca |
Sep-18-10 05:10 PM |
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So LBJ passed a bill without enough required votes to pass it? |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-18-10 05:21 PM |
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Obama had the public vote ....76%+ of the public wanted single player/government run health care... |
defendandprotect |
Sep-18-10 05:23 PM |
#154 |
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Vinca and DefendandProtect are telling the truth |
Mimosa |
Sep-19-10 04:15 PM |
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Wow, you really blew the lid of this caper |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Sep-18-10 04:55 PM |
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Then answer this |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-18-10 05:08 PM |
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There should be a place in the Pentagon PR office for someone this talented. |
EFerrari |
Sep-18-10 07:41 PM |
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LOL.. |
NorthCarolina |
Sep-18-10 04:57 PM |
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This paragraph about education...salt in the wound. |
madfloridian |
Sep-18-10 04:57 PM |
#139 |
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Listen to the Repuks and the remedy they have, |
sallyseven |
Sep-18-10 05:02 PM |
#141 |
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Obama comments at a $30,000 a plate fundraiser... didn't knock the poor and homeless.... |
defendandprotect |
Sep-18-10 05:18 PM |
#151 |
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Nah. You don't pokes sticks at the the very people in the room with the checkbooks |
chill_wind |
Sep-18-10 07:22 PM |
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He wasn't poking a stick at anyone. |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-18-10 07:30 PM |
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Agree? Not quite. He appears to have decided he can afford |
chill_wind |
Sep-18-10 08:03 PM |
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Time for the 'Republicans are worse' rebuttal? n/t |
Mimosa |
Sep-19-10 04:17 PM |
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Exactly. n/t |
EFerrari |
Sep-18-10 07:36 PM |
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An interesting insight into his thought process. |
girl gone mad |
Sep-18-10 07:25 PM |
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You should write a book and make millions |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-18-10 07:43 PM |
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It was reported in the New York Times. |
girl gone mad |
Sep-18-10 07:54 PM |
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Link? |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-18-10 08:07 PM |
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Here you go ............ |
Exilednight |
Sep-18-10 08:29 PM |
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Two things... |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-19-10 10:14 AM |
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I made no such claims .......... |
Exilednight |
Sep-19-10 10:40 AM |
#172 |
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Doesn't work. |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-19-10 12:21 PM |
#173 |
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It's not an opinion piece. |
Exilednight |
Sep-19-10 12:59 PM |
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Link works fine .... and Obama/Baucus are both sponsored by health care industry..... |
defendandprotect |
Sep-19-10 05:13 PM |
#182 |
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K&R |
MrScorpio |
Sep-18-10 07:34 PM |
#162 |
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there's no context issue |
Enrique |
Sep-19-10 12:59 PM |
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Who came up with the idea of a public option, transparency in government, |
mmonk |
Sep-19-10 01:52 PM |
#177 |