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  -Full Transcripts of Obama "mocking" Liberals USArmyParatrooper  Sep-17-10 07:58 PM   #0 
  - A bit of context is an amazing thing,  janx   Sep-17-10 07:59 PM   #1 
  - Yep, and was omitting, "Now, the second reason I'm telling you this is because" really an accident?  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-17-10 08:06 PM   #7 
     - No, it wasn't an accident.  janx   Sep-17-10 08:17 PM   #14 
  - Prediction: this will fall on deaf ears  EstimatedProphet   Sep-17-10 08:00 PM   #2 
  - Never mind  Gman   Sep-17-10 08:01 PM   #3 
  - If you are talking to the OP, you might want to read what he says. n/t  Subdivisions   Sep-17-10 08:08 PM   #10 
  - How about...  Tx4obama   Sep-17-10 08:04 PM   #4 
  - How about Obama just sticks to policy instead of  walldude   Sep-18-10 04:40 PM   #128 
  - Yep, the healthcare bill is so great they are  golddigger   Sep-17-10 08:04 PM   #5 
  - Imainge taking away the clause that disallows a cecellation based on preexisting conditions  Sheepshank   Sep-17-10 08:34 PM   #20 
  - Best to say help out the American people.  RandomThoughts   Sep-17-10 08:04 PM   #6 
  - The point of this thread is he did not "mock" anyone. But I'll address your reasonable points.  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-17-10 08:13 PM   #12 
     - The problem is that a glass half full IS also half empty.  JDPriestly   Sep-18-10 04:50 PM   #134 
     - Let's take the example of Lieberman.  JDPriestly   Sep-18-10 05:02 PM   #142 
  - OK. Who predicted something like this would be blown up as soon as Obama announced Elizabeth  Pirate Smile   Sep-17-10 08:06 PM   #8 
  - K&R. n/t  Subdivisions   Sep-17-10 08:07 PM   #9 
  - Obama was right on with these comments  HughMoran   Sep-17-10 08:08 PM   #11 
  - Thanks USAP.  Scurrilous   Sep-17-10 08:15 PM   #13 
  - Yep, telling the whole story certainly turns it into a different  SeattleGirl   Sep-17-10 08:17 PM   #15 
  - Democrats DO see the glass as half-empty--that's why we continue to try  Arkana   Sep-17-10 08:29 PM   #16 
  - Every nation has universal health care BUT USA.... and that's an imaginary "glass half full"...????  defendandprotect   Sep-19-10 05:15 PM   #183 
  - Nice work. Again.  JNelson6563   Sep-17-10 08:30 PM   #17 
  - "you know who you are" lol! +1  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-17-10 08:32 PM   #18 
  - Oh, no!  janx   Sep-17-10 08:34 PM   #19 
  - He is ridiculing those who question instead of falling in line.  madfloridian   Sep-18-10 05:30 PM   #156 
  - Julie, I know who I am.  madfloridian   Sep-18-10 05:22 PM   #153 
     - I didn't see education even mentioned.  JNelson6563   Sep-19-10 12:53 PM   #174 
        - "those who live to criticize or search tirelessly for something to take issue with."  madfloridian   Sep-19-10 02:20 PM   #178 
           - I know, right?  JNelson6563   Sep-19-10 03:53 PM   #179 
  - I know. Man the way some people act around here  golddigger   Sep-17-10 08:45 PM   #21 
  - Let me guess:  ProSense   Sep-17-10 09:11 PM   #24 
  - Dude... It's A Woodchuck  WillyT   Sep-17-10 08:56 PM   #22 
  - Ha!  progressoid   Sep-18-10 10:18 AM   #103 
  - Taking comments out of context is an effective tactic on the right...  Ozymanithrax   Sep-17-10 09:06 PM   #23 
  - It's less agenda driven than it is $$$ driven. n/t  janx   Sep-17-10 09:38 PM   #26 
  - Who on the left would make money from misquoting the President...  Ozymanithrax   Sep-17-10 10:34 PM   #29 
     - The media want to make money, Ozy.  janx   Sep-17-10 10:55 PM   #35 
     - The media, in this case, were not taking the comments out of context.  Ozymanithrax   Sep-17-10 10:57 PM   #36 
        - I misunderstood you and am sorry for that.  janx   Sep-17-10 11:05 PM   #38 
           - I most cases, about 5 minutes of research will reveal the truth.  Ozymanithrax   Sep-17-10 11:15 PM   #44 
     - My sarcasm detector wasn't working...  janx   Sep-17-10 11:22 PM   #50 
  - I think it's time to recognize its also the subject of the naive members of the left.  izzybeans   Sep-17-10 09:48 PM   #27 
  - I think you are far more gracious than I...  Ozymanithrax   Sep-17-10 10:32 PM   #28 
  - LOL. Exactly. When the president and his administration habitually knock the left  EFerrari   Sep-17-10 11:16 PM   #45 
  - Old saying: "You can't wake up a man pretending to be asleep" ....!!  defendandprotect   Sep-19-10 05:24 PM   #185 
  - If you don't "mistrust" DLC-Rahm and Obama's Wall Street team ....  defendandprotect   Sep-19-10 05:22 PM   #184 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-17-10 11:06 PM   #39 
     - Mockery must be in the eye of the beholder...  Ozymanithrax   Sep-17-10 11:17 PM   #46 
     - I am just coming to this now but  Mojorabbit   Sep-18-10 11:58 AM   #106 
        - The Public Option would never have passed the Senate.  Ozymanithrax   Sep-18-10 01:45 PM   #108 
           - There was never a full court press to get it to pass. nt  Mojorabbit   Sep-18-10 04:25 PM   #126 
              - That was your belief...I remember the Republicans.  Ozymanithrax   Sep-18-10 05:06 PM   #146 
              - Good ... let's start with 2012 -- we need a liberal/progressive presidential candidate -- !!  defendandprotect   Sep-19-10 05:28 PM   #187 
              - Exactly ... and the "exhalted" Baucus Committee was the log jam ....liberal Dems in Congress wanted  defendandprotect   Sep-19-10 05:26 PM   #186 
     - Yeah yeah and I guess completing the sentence that was cut in half doesn't either.  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-17-10 11:20 PM   #48 
     - Is there another thread  Control-Z   Sep-18-10 05:44 AM   #92 
     - At DU, most of us expect readers to read the whole of what  janx   Sep-17-10 11:24 PM   #52 
  - The folks getting their panties in a twist are pretty much proving his point.  grace0418   Sep-17-10 09:13 PM   #25 
  - +1 n/t  tammywammy   Sep-17-10 10:35 PM   #30 
  - k & r  canetoad   Sep-17-10 10:40 PM   #31 
  - That's your interpretation,  MadHound   Sep-17-10 10:45 PM   #32 
  - No, MadHound, that is the transcript.  janx   Sep-17-10 11:01 PM   #37 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-17-10 11:10 PM   #41 
     - You try way too hard. It's really transparent.  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-17-10 11:27 PM   #53 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-17-10 11:40 PM   #56 
        - No, I did not say that at all.  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-17-10 11:48 PM   #61 
        - so what? It's not funny!  G_j   Sep-18-10 12:11 AM   #74 
           - Absolutely  Time for change   Sep-18-10 07:19 PM   #158 
     - Ah, I see you really don't give a damn about the wars ending then,  MadHound   Sep-17-10 11:14 PM   #43 
        - That's a fallacious assumption, MadHound.  janx   Sep-17-10 11:19 PM   #47 
           - you are making the assumptions  G_j   Sep-17-10 11:22 PM   #49 
           - Nope.  janx   Sep-17-10 11:43 PM   #57 
              - nice try  G_j   Sep-17-10 11:49 PM   #63 
                 - You're just mad that his assumption was right.  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-18-10 12:09 AM   #72 
                 - When I see people basing opinions on biased sources  janx   Sep-18-10 12:12 AM   #76 
           - You're assuming I'm an idiot then  MadHound   Sep-17-10 11:24 PM   #51 
              - Incapable of finding the full transcript? No. Disinterested? Absolutely.  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-17-10 11:36 PM   #55 
              - "obviously shows he wasn't mocking anyone"  G_j   Sep-17-10 11:44 PM   #58 
              - Oh, reeeaaalllly......  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-17-10 11:58 PM   #66 
                 - yes, reeeaaalllly....  G_j   Sep-18-10 12:04 AM   #70 
                 - Is this the part where I'm not supposed to notice you completely dodged the question?  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-18-10 12:06 AM   #71 
                    - so he contradicts himself in tone  G_j   Sep-18-10 12:18 AM   #80 
                 - When people are "desperately needed" they are acknowledged and respected ....  defendandprotect   Sep-18-10 06:43 PM   #157 
              - Again, it is your interpretation  MadHound   Sep-17-10 11:47 PM   #60 
              - Ok, since you *honestly* interpret that way answer me this.  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-17-10 11:53 PM   #64 
                 - Again, this is all about interpretation,  MadHound   Sep-18-10 12:10 AM   #73 
                 - Supposedly in full context it looks like "mocking" - and yet you can't even answer a simple question  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-18-10 12:13 AM   #77 
                    - Do you have some sort of posting tourette syndrom?  MadHound   Sep-18-10 12:18 AM   #81 
                 - Could it be that those in attendance and who he was speaking to agree with his polices?  unapatriciated   Sep-18-10 05:24 PM   #155 
              - Well that's the first thing I do.  unapatriciated   Sep-18-10 05:09 PM   #148 
              - I'm making no assumptions at all, let alone that you are an idiot.  janx   Sep-17-10 11:48 PM   #62 
                 - "Manipulated and scared?"  MadHound   Sep-17-10 11:56 PM   #65 
                    - And let me guess  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-18-10 12:00 AM   #67 
                    - And you know what they say about ass u me  MadHound   Sep-18-10 12:12 AM   #75 
                       - Do you deny it?  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-18-10 12:16 AM   #79 
                          - Look, it's getting late, I'm moving on to bed, and I've already answered this question as well  MadHound   Sep-18-10 12:20 AM   #82 
                    - I'm not trying to make a case for myself.  janx   Sep-18-10 12:03 AM   #69 
                       - No, you are trying to fit me into your own little cosmology and using assumptions to do so  MadHound   Sep-18-10 12:15 AM   #78 
                          - I don't have a little cosmology. I have a very big cosmology! n/t  janx   Sep-18-10 12:24 AM   #84 
                             - And it is constantly expanding.... n/t  POAS   Sep-18-10 10:21 AM   #105 
  - None of this really matters, because Jane HamPster & Mr. Greenwald told me...  Tarheel_Dem   Sep-17-10 10:48 PM   #33 
  - And "gosh, we haven’t yet brought about world peace and -- (laughter.)  G_j   Sep-17-10 10:50 PM   #34 
  - World peace, always a huge laugh line. n/t  EFerrari   Sep-17-10 11:09 PM   #40 
  - almost expected a Kumbiya reference... nt  G_j   Sep-17-10 11:13 PM   #42 
     - WTF, nothing about wanting ponies???? I am disappointed!  liberation   Sep-18-10 04:02 PM   #122 
  - so now besides single payer health care (which was never on the list) you..  Whisp   Sep-18-10 01:03 AM   #86 
  - you know what is frustrating?  G_j   Sep-18-10 02:12 AM   #87 
  - The "list" ....?? 76%+ of the public wanted single payer/government run health care ...  defendandprotect   Sep-18-10 05:02 PM   #143 
  - +1000% ---  defendandprotect   Sep-18-10 04:50 PM   #133 
  - The Marvins will continue the pearl-clutching. Can't have unity or positive attitudes here, nosirree  backscatter712   Sep-17-10 11:28 PM   #54 
  - Anyone want to explain to me  Capitalocracy   Sep-17-10 11:46 PM   #59 
  - It was clearly explained in the OP  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-18-10 12:01 AM   #68 
  - you are incredibly condescending  G_j   Sep-18-10 12:23 AM   #83 
  - "one might even say, arrogant, but I suppose that's OK because you are superior."  TheWatcher   Sep-18-10 03:40 AM   #89 
  - Oh For Fuck Sake  Binka   Sep-18-10 12:31 AM   #85 
  - Your loss, if your reading this then  POAS   Sep-18-10 09:18 AM   #96 
  - Gee, I read the OP  Capitalocracy   Sep-18-10 02:20 AM   #88 
  - The OP explains these remarks as humor that pokes fun among friends, Democrats  EFerrari   Sep-18-10 02:06 PM   #114 
     - Agree -- and, of course, there is precedent for these comments ...  defendandprotect   Sep-18-10 05:14 PM   #150 
  - No, you're not "condescending" ...you're  Cha   Sep-18-10 09:35 AM   #99 
  - Yes ... we who voted for Obama are anxious to see him "mocking" us ....!!!  defendandprotect   Sep-18-10 05:05 PM   #145 
  - Nope because it doesn't.  EFerrari   Sep-18-10 01:55 PM   #112 
  - I'm trying to figure out what it's in reply to ... presume there was an other report today...  defendandprotect   Sep-18-10 05:03 PM   #144 
  - Kick. Rec. Thank you for facts, transcripts, context. Too many people have lost their sense of humor  Hekate   Sep-18-10 04:15 AM   #90 
  - Thanks for all the facts.  proteus_lives   Sep-18-10 04:49 AM   #91 
  - +1. I'm on the receiving end of this and do not take offense. n/t  rucky   Sep-18-10 05:58 AM   #93 
  - K&R  NJmaverick   Sep-18-10 08:20 AM   #94 
  - Kicked and recommended for providing the entire context.  MineralMan   Sep-18-10 08:57 AM   #95 
  - K&R  firedupdem   Sep-18-10 09:29 AM   #97 
  - K&R well written and much appreciated..  Peacetrain   Sep-18-10 09:34 AM   #98 
  - This shouldn't have to be spelled out to grown adults  ecstatic   Sep-18-10 09:36 AM   #100 
  - What if I'm a LIBERAL AND a DEMOCRAT but NO Beaver avatar?  progressoid   Sep-18-10 09:40 AM   #101 
  - Then you belong in a different category.  janx   Sep-18-10 09:44 AM   #102 
     - "you could just give in and adopt the beaver and display it proudly."  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-18-10 02:51 PM   #115 
  - It's good to see what was said by the President in full context instead...  Spazito   Sep-18-10 10:21 AM   #104 
  - K & R  tandot   Sep-18-10 12:38 PM   #107 
  - can you imagine if he had said:  G_j   Sep-18-10 01:49 PM   #109 
  - No, I can't imagine if he had said that.  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-18-10 01:54 PM   #111 
     - sorry to disappoint  G_j   Sep-18-10 01:59 PM   #113 
        - Then you're proving Obama's point.... you're acting like a petulant 4-year-old  scheming daemons   Sep-19-10 05:31 PM   #188 
  - Thank you for the true statement.  azmouse   Sep-18-10 01:53 PM   #110 
  - IMO the context doesn't change it very much.  DireStrike   Sep-18-10 03:35 PM   #116 
  - I'm shocked.  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-18-10 03:39 PM   #117 
     - So you wanna address what I said? -nt-  DireStrike   Sep-18-10 03:41 PM   #118 
        - Addressing what you said would be like addressing.....  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-18-10 03:54 PM   #119 
           - It think a simple "no, I am not going to address what you said" would have sufficed  liberation   Sep-18-10 04:17 PM   #125 
           - So you don't. I didn't think so.  DireStrike   Sep-18-10 04:36 PM   #127 
              - "At least an attempt to get a public option"  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-18-10 04:45 PM   #130 
                 - I disagree.  DireStrike   Sep-18-10 10:18 PM   #170 
  - I agree the extra context alters the tone  whatchamacallit   Sep-18-10 03:57 PM   #120 
  - Some folks just ain't happy unless their panties are completely bunched up. n/t  Vickers   Sep-18-10 04:01 PM   #121 
  - fail  frylock   Sep-18-10 04:04 PM   #123 
  - So...  Kall   Sep-18-10 04:07 PM   #124 
  - I don't care about the mocking, what concerns me is that he thinks the gargabge known as HCR  joeybee12   Sep-18-10 04:41 PM   #129 
  - How is this supposed to make it better?  Jakes Progress   Sep-18-10 04:45 PM   #131 
  - Guess my panties are still in a knot. The lack of a public option  Vinca   Sep-18-10 04:46 PM   #132 
  - They're going to be in a knot regardless of what Obama says or does  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-18-10 04:51 PM   #135 
     - That's not true at all and it's very annoying you would say that.  Vinca   Sep-18-10 04:57 PM   #138 
        - Which provision of the healthcare bill do you want to appeal?  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-18-10 05:01 PM   #140 
           - LBJ didn't have the votes for Medicare, either, but he got it done.  Vinca   Sep-18-10 05:10 PM   #149 
              - So LBJ passed a bill without enough required votes to pass it?  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-18-10 05:21 PM   #152 
              - Obama had the public vote ....76%+ of the public wanted single player/government run health care...  defendandprotect   Sep-18-10 05:23 PM   #154 
                 - Vinca and DefendandProtect are telling the truth  Mimosa   Sep-19-10 04:15 PM   #180 
  - Wow, you really blew the lid of this caper  Kurt_and_Hunter   Sep-18-10 04:55 PM   #136 
  - Then answer this  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-18-10 05:08 PM   #147 
  - There should be a place in the Pentagon PR office for someone this talented.  EFerrari   Sep-18-10 07:41 PM   #164 
  - LOL..  NorthCarolina   Sep-18-10 04:57 PM   #137 
  - This paragraph about education...salt in the wound.  madfloridian   Sep-18-10 04:57 PM   #139 
  - Listen to the Repuks and the remedy they have,  sallyseven   Sep-18-10 05:02 PM   #141 
  - Obama comments at a $30,000 a plate fundraiser... didn't knock the poor and homeless....  defendandprotect   Sep-18-10 05:18 PM   #151 
  - Nah. You don't pokes sticks at the the very people in the room with the checkbooks  chill_wind   Sep-18-10 07:22 PM   #159 
  - He wasn't poking a stick at anyone.  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-18-10 07:30 PM   #161 
  - Agree? Not quite. He appears to have decided he can afford  chill_wind   Sep-18-10 08:03 PM   #167 
     - Time for the 'Republicans are worse' rebuttal? n/t  Mimosa   Sep-19-10 04:17 PM   #181 
  - Exactly. n/t  EFerrari   Sep-18-10 07:36 PM   #163 
  - An interesting insight into his thought process.  girl gone mad   Sep-18-10 07:25 PM   #160 
  - You should write a book and make millions  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-18-10 07:43 PM   #165 
     - It was reported in the New York Times.  girl gone mad   Sep-18-10 07:54 PM   #166 
        - Link?  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-18-10 08:07 PM   #168 
           - Here you go ............  Exilednight   Sep-18-10 08:29 PM   #169 
              - Two things...  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-19-10 10:14 AM   #171 
              - I made no such claims ..........  Exilednight   Sep-19-10 10:40 AM   #172 
                 - Doesn't work.  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-19-10 12:21 PM   #173 
                    - It's not an opinion piece.  Exilednight   Sep-19-10 12:59 PM   #175 
              - Link works fine .... and Obama/Baucus are both sponsored by health care industry.....  defendandprotect   Sep-19-10 05:13 PM   #182 
  - K&R  MrScorpio   Sep-18-10 07:34 PM   #162 
  - there's no context issue  Enrique   Sep-19-10 12:59 PM   #176 
  - Who came up with the idea of a public option, transparency in government,  mmonk   Sep-19-10 01:52 PM   #177 
 

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