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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-10 12:05 AM
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63. well it's a pretty good clue that you are unemployable and considered of no value to society
i will make no comment on intelligence, i don't think intelligence in women is considered to be of any great value, at least it is not valued in america BUT if you stay at home, there is clearly a huge problem somewhere

what adult would choose to be a helpless dependent if they had guts and a brain?

being a stay at home mom is the booby prize and a way to cover one's pride and not admit that you couldn't really earn, successful women easily balance both but the odds are so stacked against success for women that i don't ever blame anyone for not working, if your skills/brains/ talents are not valued and you can't worked, the world is as it is...

but, yes, there is a certain % of women who don't work because they have serious issues w. mental illness, addiction,e tc. there is no use pretending that the world is better off because they're sitting at home "watching" the kids while smoking crack


at the end of the day, what example would you set for your kids? do you really want to teach your daughter that she has to be dependent on a man to put bread in her mouth? no we all know that's a shit example, if you're a stay at home mom it is not because you think that's a good example to set, it's a terrible one that even if it's OK for you could v. easily lead to your daughter being an abuse victim...we all know this...girls MUST get an example that women can be strong but sometimes the world says fuck you, i'm not gonna let you work, so you have to put a brave face on it

so, i'm not saying "unintelligent" but what stay at home mom do you know who doesn't have some serious issue that kept her from being a success? it doesn't have to be stupidity, it prob. isn't, maybe she's a genius who didn't sleep w. the right professor or the right mentor and is now forever unemployable...many other times it's physical or mental illness

nature intended for women to raise children and be able to feed the child too, any women who can't do that, look (and it isn't usu. too hard) to see...she has an issue, it may not be her fault, in this world it prob. isn't but it's still not a "choice"

the women i hear bleating about how they "chose" to stay home are invariably fundy crazies who don't mind indoctrinating their daughters in fundy crazy hood and it's apparent to everyone but them that they chose nothing, their religious hysteria "chose" for them
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  -What is going on with the women in the U.S. today? redirish28  Sep-17-10 05:06 PM   #0 
  - Its basically an extension of the puritanical 'slutshaming' that goes on at their churches  Taverner   Sep-17-10 05:08 PM   #1 
  - these are Phyllis Schlafflee (sp?0  WhiteTara   Sep-17-10 05:09 PM   #2 
  - No Phyllis pillus has been around since the seventies  Bitwit1234   Sep-17-10 05:54 PM   #24 
  - I'd say it was a bit of both.. plus..  left coaster   Sep-17-10 05:57 PM   #25 
  - I've been told I'm the reason there's so much umemployment..  HipChick   Sep-17-10 05:12 PM   #3 
  - But what if YOU have a kid to feed?? What if you're divorced or  Fire1   Sep-17-10 06:11 PM   #31 
  - Then supposedly my place is with a new husband..subservient etc  HipChick   Sep-18-10 02:44 PM   #75 
  - That is exactly what my father said to me.  Grey   Sep-17-10 06:41 PM   #40 
  - Reagan started that idiocy thirty years ago  treestar   Sep-17-10 09:38 PM   #58 
  - In 2003 I saw...  Sen. Walter Sobchak   Sep-18-10 12:39 AM   #68 
  - Did you tell this person where to go?  Darth_Kitten   Sep-18-10 05:13 PM   #91 
  - I think everyone else made great points, but I think another layer to all this is  LiberalLoner   Sep-17-10 05:16 PM   #4 
  - I think I have read some of those same articles.  Tuesday Afternoon   Sep-17-10 05:31 PM   #15 
  - I agree with you...it is a wish to have what they think of as a "soft and comfortable" life...  mitchum   Sep-17-10 06:16 PM   #33 
  - it's "women's lib" fault their jobs don't pay enough? say what?  pitohui   Sep-17-10 11:56 PM   #62 
  - These same women  laundry_queen   Sep-18-10 02:02 AM   #73 
  - They're as stupid as the morons who married them. nt  valerief   Sep-17-10 05:17 PM   #5 
  - Teabagger women should take their own advice and stay home and teabag  lunatica   Sep-17-10 05:19 PM   #6 
  - +1000 +++ n/t  RKP5637   Sep-17-10 05:57 PM   #26 
  - +1 n/t  TroglodyteScholar   Sep-17-10 07:12 PM   #44 
  - Brilliant!  Dappleganger   Sep-17-10 07:15 PM   #45 
  - hmmmm..so if you stay home, you are unintelligent?  krabigirl   Sep-17-10 07:34 PM   #49 
  - I don't think it was ment like that. I think if they want women to do just that  redirish28   Sep-17-10 08:47 PM   #54 
  - well it's a pretty good clue that you are unemployable and considered of no value to society  pitohui   Sep-18-10 12:05 AM   #63 
     - ....  CBR   Sep-18-10 02:59 PM   #80 
     - Nice broad brush you have  mercuryblues   Sep-18-10 03:23 PM   #83 
     - you must have had a really fucked up childhood pitohui. nt  seabeyond   Sep-18-10 09:30 PM   #93 
     - Because 40 hours is a fucking ratrace joke of a prison.  RadiationTherapy   Sep-18-10 10:28 PM   #94 
  - +1000. If they want to help the job market why don't they lead by  treestar   Sep-17-10 09:39 PM   #59 
  - sarah is certainly not home taking care of her special needs baby....  madrchsod   Sep-17-10 05:20 PM   #7 
  - +100  HipChick   Sep-18-10 02:45 PM   #76 
  - Strange phenomenon indeed, because the women who are saying this are not DOING it.  enough   Sep-17-10 05:21 PM   #8 
  - ha ha - so true, enough!!  IcyPeas   Sep-17-10 05:48 PM   #22 
  - And they don't know the difference between politics and entertainment...  Raksha   Sep-17-10 06:49 PM   #41 
  - Some women hate their own gender. Men too at times.  MichiganVote   Sep-17-10 05:23 PM   #9 
  - I have an academic friend/colleague who has written a book  janx   Sep-17-10 05:24 PM   #10 
  - in 1975 my mother in law told me  DesertFlower   Sep-17-10 05:24 PM   #11 
  - women vote for *softer* issues  grasswire   Sep-17-10 05:30 PM   #12 
  - women vote for *softer* issues  grasswire   Sep-17-10 05:30 PM   #13 
  - Why is it war and destruction is considered more important and better than raising families and  LiberalLoner   Sep-17-10 05:51 PM   #23 
  - I blame men.  provis99   Sep-17-10 05:31 PM   #14 
  - Interesting essay in the new Harper's by Susan Faludi that touches on this  REP   Sep-17-10 05:35 PM   #16 
  - Maybe these wingnuts have read " The Good Wife's Guide" from  life_long_dem   Sep-17-10 05:35 PM   #17 
  - I thought this was some work of fiction--Urban Legend!  redirish28   Sep-17-10 06:11 PM   #30 
  - It probably is an urban legend. But, that doesn't mean people  life_long_dem   Sep-17-10 06:36 PM   #37 
  - The 1950 Betty Crocker Picture Cookbook  Abq_Sarah   Sep-18-10 12:55 AM   #69 
  - Jeezus what guy would actually want a woman like that?  tularetom   Sep-17-10 05:38 PM   #18 
  - Weird times and weirder people. IMO there are some very peculiar people  RKP5637   Sep-17-10 06:04 PM   #27 
  - I think that WWII showed "business" something very powerful  SoCalDem   Sep-17-10 05:46 PM   #19 
  - Very good summary of the last 30 years or so.  Raksha   Sep-17-10 07:00 PM   #43 
  - I have wondered the same thing recently  abelenkpe   Sep-17-10 05:47 PM   #20 
  - Well said!!!  RKP5637   Sep-17-10 06:40 PM   #39 
  - It's not "the women"  NMMNG   Sep-17-10 05:48 PM   #21 
  - some pretty insulting posts to women that do chose to stay home.... as we attack these other women  seabeyond   Sep-17-10 06:06 PM   #28 
  - It wasn't my intent. And my wife has no problems with a woman who  redirish28   Sep-17-10 06:14 PM   #32 
  - i wasnt addressing your post... but thank you. nt  seabeyond   Sep-17-10 06:25 PM   #34 
  - I agree, but I am used to it. People do think you are stupid if you stay home.  krabigirl   Sep-17-10 07:34 PM   #50 
  - yup  seabeyond   Sep-17-10 07:41 PM   #51 
  - I am amazed by some of these posts. Un-fucking-believable.  CBR   Sep-18-10 03:00 PM   #82 
     - amazing how it continues as if not recognized, even when pointed out. nt  seabeyond   Sep-18-10 03:32 PM   #84 
  - Well, IMO her friend's fellow FEMALE co-worker should quit her job if she is that  RKP5637   Sep-17-10 06:08 PM   #29 
  - What's going on with the men in the U.S. today?  etherealtruth   Sep-17-10 06:25 PM   #35 
  - Good point. I call the US United Stupidity, anymore.  RKP5637   Sep-17-10 06:35 PM   #36 
  - I knew one woman back in 1979 that believed women shouldn't vote, drive auto's, work outside  mrcheerful   Sep-17-10 06:36 PM   #38 
  - Don't blame women. Actually, the Tea Party female candidates are getting most of their support from  totodeinhere   Sep-17-10 06:58 PM   #42 
  - My simplistic take on it? The TPs/GOP have discovered that "sex sells"  sohndrsmith   Sep-17-10 07:21 PM   #46 
  - +1. nt  seabeyond   Sep-17-10 07:31 PM   #47 
  - Well said!!! n/t  RKP5637   Sep-17-10 08:28 PM   #53 
  - None of these women would be popular among right wingers if  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-18-10 12:11 AM   #65 
     - That's so true!  shimmergal   Sep-18-10 05:15 PM   #92 
  - I hate this kind of thinking, and I am a stay-at-home mom. bugs me to no end ro  krabigirl   Sep-17-10 07:32 PM   #48 
  - It's a good way to look at it... people should do what works best for them w/o  RKP5637   Sep-17-10 08:26 PM   #52 
  - Please note my wife and I mean no disrespect. If it is a choice you  redirish28   Sep-17-10 08:56 PM   #55 
  - I admire you (and the rest of your family), personally... I did the same  sohndrsmith   Sep-17-10 09:32 PM   #57 
  - The patriarchy is a poison  Book Lover   Sep-17-10 09:12 PM   #56 
  - "She went on to say that no woman should be anything more than a Teacher or receptionist."  sohndrsmith   Sep-17-10 11:22 PM   #60 
  - Xena... The TV show. It was a spin off of Hercules in the 90s  redirish28   Sep-18-10 12:08 AM   #64 
     - I loved Hercules and Xena. So did my husband.  Cleita   Sep-18-10 01:10 AM   #71 
  - in america women don't have NEVER have had equal rights under the law in our constitution  pitohui   Sep-17-10 11:52 PM   #61 
  - All the NUTTY females are republicans, not democrats.  Tx4obama   Sep-18-10 12:13 AM   #66 
  - It seems to me like the GOP is desparately seeking to find  donheld   Sep-18-10 12:24 AM   #67 
  - Maybe we need to give out a burqa award to these  Cleita   Sep-18-10 01:06 AM   #70 
  - On the positive side...  demmiblue   Sep-18-10 01:12 AM   #72 
  - Religious schooling has a powerful effect on demographics,  felix_numinous   Sep-18-10 02:42 PM   #74 
  - This really is a byblow of feminism.  Orsino   Sep-18-10 02:51 PM   #77 
  - that is why i never pay the "let women rule and see the fairness crap" human... more  seabeyond   Sep-18-10 03:33 PM   #85 
     - Well, a nation capable of removing men from power...  Orsino   Sep-18-10 03:46 PM   #86 
  - take away our educations, lobotomize us and make us wear burkhas  Generic Other   Sep-18-10 02:54 PM   #78 
  - Gawd, I wish my wife COULD stay home  DiverDave   Sep-18-10 02:58 PM   #79 
  - Religious conditioning. nt  LWolf   Sep-18-10 03:00 PM   #81 
  - Single women(unmarried, widowed, divorced)have always worked...  hayu_lol   Sep-18-10 04:11 PM   #87 
     - All true.  LWolf   Sep-18-10 04:58 PM   #89 
  - It's called fallout  Mushroom   Sep-18-10 04:58 PM   #88 
  - Send them to Canada, I'll set them straight....  Darth_Kitten   Sep-18-10 05:11 PM   #90 
 

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