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JuniperLea

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Fri Sep-10-10 01:04 PM
Response to Reply #14

22. True...

But I see that changing, slowly. The only way we can keep it changing is for more women to float to the top like sweet cream

It's not easy. I've seen many a female corporate head picked apart for being "warm and fuzzy."

Totally primitive... well put.

I also agree with the cultural differences in other countries; that's why we have protocol coaches when dealing with other cultures. I always advise women to use the professionals we have available. We're breaking the mold... one little tiny chip at a time, but it's changing. Too much too quickly and there would be revolt. This is not a bad reflection on women by any means... but it may be on that primative tribal mentality.

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-Citibank's advice to female employees.	Swede	Sep-10-10 12:33 PM	#0
- you arent going to hear me argue this. pass it to every young girl....	seabeyond	Sep-10-10 12:40 PM	#1
- my thought exactly.	nashville_brook	Sep-10-10 06:35 PM	#61
- Ask permission? Apologize? Play fair?	Crankie Avalon	Sep-10-10 12:42 PM	#2
- the play fair one i would do regardless. who i am. and am still successful	seabeyond	Sep-10-10 12:44 PM	#3
- Check your honor at the door, I guess.	Crankie Avalon	Sep-10-10 03:23 PM	#43
- Check your honor at the door,... i have never had the need to do that	seabeyond	Sep-10-10 08:18 PM	#70
- It is a bank after all.	Radical Activist	Sep-10-10 03:24 PM	#44
- True dat.	Crankie Avalon	Sep-10-10 03:27 PM	#45
- I'd like to see some confirmation before I believe this.	HiFructosePronSyrup	Sep-10-10 12:46 PM	#4
- Yep. The 'stolen from Citibank' story is sketchy	Matariki	Sep-10-10 12:49 PM	#7
- Oversized letterhead is overdoing it a bit, IMO.	HiFructosePronSyrup	Sep-10-10 12:49 PM	#8
- I agree. I just can't see a corporation doing this for fear of offending.	Pithlet	Sep-10-10 01:02 PM	#21
- I believe it...	JuniperLea	Sep-10-10 12:50 PM	#9
- 99 Ways . . .	Constance Craving	Sep-10-10 01:22 PM	#25
- I'll have to check that book out too!	JuniperLea	Sep-10-10 01:39 PM	#27
- Credited at the bottom of the whatever it is. nt	blondeatlast	Sep-10-10 02:03 PM	#35
- Agreed. Pretty damnable evidence an EEOC complaint--	blondeatlast	Sep-10-10 01:41 PM	#28
- I was prepared to be 'outraged'	Matariki	Sep-10-10 12:47 PM	#5
- That's what I was thinking--but I still think it's a fake. nt	blondeatlast	Sep-10-10 01:42 PM	#31
- Oh most certainly a fake.	Matariki	Sep-10-10 03:41 PM	#52
- Looks like excellent advice to me...	JuniperLea	Sep-10-10 12:48 PM	#6
- On the other hand...	Matariki	Sep-10-10 12:55 PM	#14
- True...	JuniperLea	Sep-10-10 01:04 PM	#22
- I've been entertaining myself this morning	Matariki	Sep-10-10 03:30 PM	#48
- Oh, that is rich!	JuniperLea	Sep-10-10 04:44 PM	#55
- Play by the rules really bothers me ( stretch the rules, don't get caught)	Confusious	Sep-10-10 08:23 PM	#71
- 'Women should act like men to get ahead' makes the world more masculine.	Mimosa	Sep-10-10 12:50 PM	#10
- I couldn't disagree more!	JuniperLea	Sep-10-10 12:53 PM	#13
- Juniper, I wasn't saying a woman can't be 'tough'	Mimosa	Sep-10-10 12:59 PM	#17
- I must have missed the rude bit... eom	JuniperLea	Sep-10-10 01:38 PM	#26
- "Femininity" is a social creation anyway.	uncommon	Sep-10-10 01:01 PM	#20
- It may well be...	JuniperLea	Sep-10-10 01:41 PM	#29
- Embrace your oppression -	uncommon	Sep-10-10 03:21 PM	#42
- Not even close...	JuniperLea	Sep-10-10 04:45 PM	#56
- dupe delete	uncommon	Sep-10-10 12:59 PM	#18
- You think that weak handshakes, constantly apologizing, and being naive are naturally "womanly"	uncommon	Sep-10-10 01:00 PM	#19
- these things are about confidence, not being a man. not gender specific	seabeyond	Sep-10-10 01:09 PM	#24
- Not gender specific...	JuniperLea	Sep-10-10 01:45 PM	#32
- and your post... so true. right there with you. nt	seabeyond	Sep-10-10 01:46 PM	#33
- They are gender specific because they are taught to women. n/t	EFerrari	Sep-10-10 03:45 PM	#54
- because generally our young girls are taught, sit quiet, quiet voice, yada yada...	seabeyond	Sep-10-10 04:52 PM	#58
- I have two sons. n/t	EFerrari	Sep-10-10 08:05 PM	#65
- i do, too. nt	seabeyond	Sep-10-10 08:06 PM	#67
- Totally agree. nt	JerseygirlCT	Sep-10-10 02:20 PM	#39
- Yes, it's a particularly interesting piece of anti-feminism, too.	EFerrari	Sep-10-10 03:44 PM	#53
- i agree, there's a counter-feminist tone in this, however...	nashville_brook	Sep-10-10 06:45 PM	#62
- There's good advice there	lukasahero	Sep-10-10 12:52 PM	#11
- Fuck yeah...random blog...poor quality photo...overly sensational headline.	tjwash	Sep-10-10 12:52 PM	#12
- I think the problem is that it is advice to female employees.	Pithlet	Sep-10-10 12:55 PM	#15
- Most of that applies to me as well	Phil The Cat	Sep-10-10 01:53 PM	#34
- Some of it is accurate - it is reflective of the behavior we teach to girls	uncommon	Sep-10-10 12:58 PM	#16
- Hurray for Citi for posting this for its employees. It says, "What Not to do".	sinkingfeeling	Sep-10-10 01:09 PM	#23
- I guess I've sabotaged my career like a woman.	qb	Sep-10-10 01:42 PM	#30
- girls are generally taught.... and certainly not an absolute. males are normally taught otherwise	seabeyond	Sep-10-10 02:07 PM	#36
- 1,4,5,6,7,8&9 apply to me, and I'm a man.	trackfan	Sep-10-10 02:14 PM	#37
- Hear, hear.	Crankie Avalon	Sep-10-10 03:03 PM	#40
- All assuming male dominance in business	JerseygirlCT	Sep-10-10 02:20 PM	#38
- Most of these tips are for dealing with poor leaders	Radical Activist	Sep-10-10 03:27 PM	#46
- That too	JerseygirlCT	Sep-10-10 07:50 PM	#63
- Poor Citi,	madamesilverspurs	Sep-10-10 03:19 PM	#41
- Nothing annoys me more than when I go to shake another woman's hand and she gives me the limp	tammywammy	Sep-10-10 03:28 PM	#47
- hate it. and then shake a mans hand and you get that wimp shake cause they are use to it from woman	seabeyond	Sep-10-10 04:53 PM	#59
- like you're supposed to kiss it or something	WolverineDG	Sep-10-10 08:05 PM	#66
- I'm a firm shake	tammywammy	Sep-10-10 08:12 PM	#68
- I would not be surprised if this is the work of a diversity effort ...	JoePhilly	Sep-10-10 03:32 PM	#49
- I work for a large company	tammywammy	Sep-10-10 03:39 PM	#51
- Yup ...	JoePhilly	Sep-10-10 06:30 PM	#60
- Interesting. I do at least half of those things, and my ex-spouse (the female) doesn't.	jobycom	Sep-10-10 03:38 PM	#50
- But really, could you just stop smacking your lips after applying your	blondeatlast	Sep-10-10 04:47 PM	#57
- I no longer say "I'm sorry" when some man bumps into me	WolverineDG	Sep-10-10 08:02 PM	#64
- I really f***ing hate language games like that.	Confusious	Sep-10-10 08:30 PM	#72
- Yup, so I do the same to those who pull that crap	WolverineDG	Sep-10-10 10:50 PM	#74
- That list should be called, "How to be a ignorant, fuckhead bully."	Swamp Rat	Sep-10-10 08:17 PM	#69
- +1 nt	phasma ex machina	Sep-10-10 08:44 PM	#73
- If you have to do that to work at a corporate office, you are completely soulless.	alarimer	Sep-10-10 11:13 PM	#75

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