Warren Stupidity
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Thu Sep-09-10 09:04 PM
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| 4. Then you have no idea what rich is. |
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There are 15,000 families (approximately) in this country with annual income averaging 35,000,000/year. They are the people who run this republic as their Wealth Protection Agency. And income is only a minor part of the story, wealth accumulation is the main story.
The genius of the repugnicant reaganization of income taxes was to collapse the tax brackets on people in the Bill Gates/Warren Buffet class down to the same bracket as skilled professionals. Doctor and Plumbers are paying the same rate as the Koch brothers. Then they sick us on each other and we fight while they build castles to keep their loot safe.
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| -Anybody, who's taxable income, is greater than $200,000 a year is rich. |
David Zephyr |
Sep-09-10 08:24 PM |
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Well, it depends. |
bemildred |
Sep-09-10 08:40 PM |
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You should update you title to state $200K after deductions |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Sep-09-10 08:48 PM |
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That's why I wrote "taxable" instead of just income. |
David Zephyr |
Sep-09-10 09:00 PM |
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Americans tend to think in terms of gross income, specifically W-2 income |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Sep-09-10 09:06 PM |
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i'm actually a bg fan of responsible tax incentives aka "loopholes" |
unblock |
Sep-09-10 10:02 PM |
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Social engineering via taxes has clearly gone too far |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Sep-09-10 10:20 PM |
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it's a good idea, you just need to clean the slate periodically |
unblock |
Sep-09-10 11:36 PM |
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This is a place to err on the side of not doing it |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Sep-09-10 11:47 PM |
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+1 |
David Zephyr |
Sep-09-10 10:40 PM |
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TXI |
Spyderama |
Sep-09-10 09:06 PM |
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Well I understand that...but most people think in terms of gross or W-2 income |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Sep-09-10 09:09 PM |
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Then you have no idea what rich is. |
Warren Stupidity |
Sep-09-10 09:04 PM |
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a family that nets $250K, with average wealth, in Manhattan, DC, etc. has nothing in common with |
spooky3 |
Sep-09-10 09:18 PM |
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So, what? |
Frank Booth |
Sep-09-10 10:19 PM |
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Your first sentence makes me laugh. Make $250k "in any place" in the US. I dare ya. |
cherokeeprogressive |
Sep-09-10 10:55 PM |
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Median family income in manhattan = $50K. So somehow the not-so rich manage to survive there. |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-09-10 11:01 PM |
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That wasn't my point, and I grew up in a place about as desolate as you can get in |
Frank Booth |
Sep-10-10 12:08 AM |
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Please re-read my post, which was not about living "fairly comfortably." |
spooky3 |
Sep-10-10 09:01 PM |
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They're in the top 2% of *all* income tax filers, richer than 98% of the country. |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-09-10 10:52 PM |
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You don't care about equity and fairness then. |
spooky3 |
Sep-10-10 09:02 PM |
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Very true - professionals earning a couple hundred thousand |
TBF |
Sep-10-10 08:09 AM |
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but that was always the case, even before Reagan |
hfojvt |
Sep-09-10 09:41 PM |
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Though I agree with much of what you say, income tax filers making $250K are in the |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-09-10 10:51 PM |
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Master Plumber - 200/hr 400K/yr. |
Warren Stupidity |
Sep-10-10 06:14 AM |
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I know it is all divisive tactics to keep us in-fighting. |
TBF |
Sep-10-10 08:12 AM |
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Maybe some place |
pipoman |
Sep-10-10 08:17 AM |
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80-100 is the going rate for union journeymen - |
Warren Stupidity |
Sep-10-10 09:12 AM |
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Those making $250K/yr are the top 2% of filers; they aren't just "highly skilled professionals |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-10-10 12:04 PM |
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That is just not true. |
Warren Stupidity |
Sep-10-10 01:25 PM |
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what's not true, that those making $250K are the top 2% of filers, or that they |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-11-10 12:18 PM |
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Not this Joe the Plumber bullshit again |
ObamaIn2012 |
Sep-10-10 10:20 PM |
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Why is that fat man with the glasses grinning like a fool?? |
BrklynLiberal |
Sep-09-10 09:04 PM |
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I can think of one obvious (even tautological) explanation. nt |
bemildred |
Sep-09-10 09:11 PM |
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in my working life since 84 I have just about made 250,000. |
Skink |
Sep-09-10 09:05 PM |
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Obama took away their tax cuts? |
BlueCheese |
Sep-09-10 09:08 PM |
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They will expire without his signature on a bill that renews them. |
David Zephyr |
Sep-09-10 10:39 PM |
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K & R! |
lonestarnot |
Sep-09-10 09:09 PM |
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Why are you giving Obama credit for "taxing away their tax break"? |
Statistical |
Sep-09-10 09:18 PM |
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They will expire without his signature on a bill that renews them. |
David Zephyr |
Sep-09-10 10:45 PM |
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You are easily fooled. |
Statistical |
Sep-09-10 11:33 PM |
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Since that's twenty times what I live on, |
Sal Minella |
Sep-09-10 09:43 PM |
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for one thing, "rich" cannot possibly be defined SOLELY by income |
unblock |
Sep-09-10 09:54 PM |
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Well jeez, if you parse it enough, you can argue that no one is rich |
OffWithTheirHeads |
Sep-09-10 10:33 PM |
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i think it's safe to say there are definitely some rich people out there! |
unblock |
Sep-09-10 11:59 PM |
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Another example |
Yupster |
Sep-09-10 10:50 PM |
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the example of having millions in tax-free bonds is a good one. |
unblock |
Sep-09-10 11:51 PM |
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presumably all income groups have their share of those factors. However, people making $250K are in |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-09-10 11:03 PM |
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Do you understand "Marginal Income Tax Rates"? |
Dr.Phool |
Sep-09-10 11:11 PM |
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of course i understand marginal income tax rates |
unblock |
Sep-09-10 11:44 PM |
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You don't know what "rich" is then. |
flvegan |
Sep-09-10 11:45 PM |
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+1 |
proteus_lives |
Sep-09-10 11:56 PM |
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A lot of time is wasted on deciding what is rich and what is not |
My Good Babushka |
Sep-10-10 05:41 AM |
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+100 |
Hannah Bell |
Sep-10-10 05:47 AM |
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Now that is a statement without basis |
elias7 |
Sep-10-10 07:45 AM |
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Maybe the poster was presumptuous |
pipoman |
Sep-10-10 08:01 AM |
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I'm not talking about democrats on this board |
My Good Babushka |
Sep-10-10 10:26 AM |
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I understand... |
elias7 |
Sep-10-10 12:21 PM |
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well, to needle you... |
My Good Babushka |
Sep-10-10 07:19 PM |
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+1 |
uponit7771 |
Sep-10-10 08:02 AM |
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Not everyone who makes that amt is your enemy |
lukasahero |
Sep-10-10 10:26 AM |
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I'm just about certain that you're missing her point. |
Orrex |
Sep-10-10 11:00 AM |
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Our tax increase would be ~104$ a month realized and we're VERY VERY happy to pay it if it means ... |
uponit7771 |
Sep-10-10 08:09 AM |
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Exactly right. nt |
TBF |
Sep-10-10 08:14 AM |
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I agree. I pay my taxes, gladly. n/t |
msanthrope |
Sep-10-10 09:07 PM |
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what is with... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Sep-10-10 09:33 PM |
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Our Democrats need to "FRAME" what they do better... |
KoKo |
Sep-10-10 09:33 PM |
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Agreed. |
treestar |
Sep-11-10 12:20 PM |
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