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58. Unless progressive cause some pain for not being offered a seat at the table ....
... you will have no incentive to ever offer a seat.

When progressives are not included in the process Democrats lose. That looks like the message that's coming in November.

The only question will be do the democrats get the message.
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  -DKos Sockpuppet BUSTED!!! JuniperLea  Sep-07-10 01:04 PM   #0 
  - I seriously doubt that isn't the only paid right wing sock puppet posing  NJmaverick   Sep-07-10 01:06 PM   #1 
  - FDL is crap  JuniperLea   Sep-07-10 01:17 PM   #7 
  - when the Hamster smiles her shit eating grin when saying the Democrats are losing popularity  Whisp   Sep-07-10 08:06 PM   #138 
  - No way that's the only gop operative on a liberal  Cha   Sep-07-10 01:27 PM   #17 
  - Could that statement be more ridiculous?  aquart   Sep-07-10 01:50 PM   #31 
  - Well considering that FDL came up with the "cat food commission" which  NJmaverick   Sep-07-10 01:56 PM   #35 
  - Please elaborate  robdogbucky   Sep-07-10 02:48 PM   #65 
  - FDL acts EXACTLY the same way and is just as destructive as the GOP operative at Daily Kos  NJmaverick   Sep-07-10 02:54 PM   #71 
     - Well, wait  robdogbucky   Sep-07-10 03:19 PM   #92 
     - I'm still waiting.....  robdogbucky   Sep-07-10 03:46 PM   #106 
  - Nonsensical  whatchamacallit   Sep-07-10 02:54 PM   #72 
     - Ever heard of a "concern troll?"  JuniperLea   Sep-07-10 02:55 PM   #74 
     - The GOP is known for dishonest descriptions like "death panels" so  NJmaverick   Sep-07-10 02:56 PM   #76 
        - The maverick doth protest too much, methinks  whatchamacallit   Sep-07-10 03:04 PM   #84 
           - ????? Please explain  NJmaverick   Sep-07-10 03:06 PM   #86 
           - You just seem really wound up  whatchamacallit   Sep-07-10 03:07 PM   # 
           - Which topic is that?  Warren DeMontague   Sep-08-10 04:02 AM   #154 
  - It's not about the disingenuous meme of "marching in lockstep"..  Cha   Sep-07-10 03:15 PM   #89 
     - Very true  NJmaverick   Sep-07-10 05:32 PM   #127 
  - That's delusional  Dems2002   Sep-07-10 06:09 PM   #130 
     - Is that a Kool Aid mustache I see?  JuniperLea   Sep-07-10 07:58 PM   #134 
        - huh?  Dems2002   Sep-08-10 03:45 AM   #153 
           - Seemed far more valid than yours, quite frankly... eom  JuniperLea   Sep-08-10 12:32 PM   #160 
  - Trolls? On an internet message board?  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-07-10 01:06 PM   #2 
  - LOL  Hassin Bin Sober   Sep-07-10 01:13 PM   #4 
  - Shocking, I know!  JuniperLea   Sep-07-10 01:17 PM   #10 
     - stepping on them is even more fun  DBoon   Sep-07-10 01:32 PM   #20 
  - (lol)  leftstreet   Sep-07-10 01:09 PM   #3 
  - I wonder if Kubica has a DU account as well?  Quantess   Sep-07-10 01:15 PM   #5 
  - I wouldn't be surprised.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-07-10 01:17 PM   #8 
  - PM me with your list  devilgrrl   Sep-07-10 08:36 PM   #145 
  - That's a very good question  NJmaverick   Sep-07-10 01:36 PM   #22 
  - I have no doubt he has at LEAST one. nt  johnaries   Sep-07-10 02:29 PM   #53 
  - Not uncommon  gratuitous   Sep-07-10 01:15 PM   #6 
  - "awesome persuasive power of your argument"  JuniperLea   Sep-07-10 01:19 PM   #11 
  - +1  devilgrrl   Sep-07-10 08:39 PM   #147 
  - We've known they were crawling all over liberal sites, and they're reasonably organized. (nt)  Tarheel_Dem   Sep-07-10 01:17 PM   #9 
  - Sure we have...  JuniperLea   Sep-07-10 01:20 PM   #13 
     - It's usually not too easy to expose them, though.  MineralMan   Sep-07-10 01:23 PM   #16 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-07-10 02:36 PM   #57 
     - What's really sad is that FDL is an intersection that brings all these idiots together.  Tarheel_Dem   Sep-07-10 01:30 PM   #19 
        - Tribal Bigotry 101  JuniperLea   Sep-07-10 02:43 PM   #61 
  - I'm not at all surprised.  MineralMan   Sep-07-10 01:19 PM   #12 
  - I feel the same way about "prominent shit-stirrers" who spent years and 1000s of posts at right-wing...  Hassin Bin Sober   Sep-07-10 01:50 PM   #32 
  - You misspelled websites.  MineralMan   Sep-07-10 02:06 PM   #40 
  - Your compassion for the right wingnuts is duly noted  NJmaverick   Sep-07-10 02:27 PM   #51 
  - +1  LostinVA   Sep-07-10 02:47 PM   #64 
  - See post #48 and the subthread below it.  MineralMan   Sep-07-10 03:17 PM   #90 
  - Just because a politician puts a "D" after his name doesn't necessarily make him a Democrat  NorthCarolina   Sep-08-10 12:34 PM   #161 
  - Completely unrelated, but did you ever notice that in undercover cop movies....  Junkdrawer   Sep-07-10 01:22 PM   #14 
  - Sometimes...  kenfrequed   Sep-07-10 01:48 PM   #29 
  - another G. Gordon Liddy spawn  Swamp Rat   Sep-07-10 01:22 PM   #15 
  - Wow...right wing operatives posing as "far left" with the goal of dampening enthusiasm  alcibiades_mystery   Sep-07-10 01:30 PM   #18 
  - yes it does  NJmaverick   Sep-07-10 01:36 PM   #21 
  - Indeed. Where have I heard that exact language before?  MineralMan   Sep-07-10 01:39 PM   #25 
  - So now all critics of Dems/Obama are sockpuppets working for the other side? n/t  Subdivisions   Sep-07-10 01:43 PM   #27 
  - You tell me  alcibiades_mystery   Sep-07-10 01:48 PM   #30 
  - My keyboard & monitor hate you!  Tarheel_Dem   Sep-07-10 01:58 PM   #36 
  - So, you think I'm a sock puppet? Please make your case. n/t  Subdivisions   Sep-07-10 02:18 PM   #43 
     - I don't believe any such suggestion was made.  MineralMan   Sep-07-10 02:23 PM   #45 
     - Yes it was:  Subdivisions   Sep-07-10 02:27 PM   #50 
        - How does that imply anything about you?  MineralMan   Sep-07-10 02:35 PM   #56 
     - I think, perhaps, you've confused me with someone else? Is this what  Tarheel_Dem   Sep-07-10 02:30 PM   #54 
  - What is that supposed to mean? Are you implying that I am a sockpuppet ?  Subdivisions   Sep-07-10 02:16 PM   #42 
     - Goodness. I don't believe anyone implied any such thing.  MineralMan   Sep-07-10 02:23 PM   #47 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Sep-07-10 02:25 PM   #48 
     - Whether you're a counterfeit or the authentic item is of no interest to me  alcibiades_mystery   Sep-07-10 02:48 PM   #66 
     - fail.  Whisp   Sep-07-10 08:16 PM   #140 
  - I don't think anyone said that. In fact, I'm quite sure nobody  MineralMan   Sep-07-10 02:04 PM   #38 
  - Why is that odd? What are you implying? n/t  Subdivisions   Sep-07-10 02:22 PM   #44 
     - I don't imply things. I thought it was odd that you interpreted what  MineralMan   Sep-07-10 02:26 PM   #49 
  - Not at all.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-07-10 02:06 PM   #39 
  - Dumb? This coming from someone who spells "too" as "to"...  Subdivisions   Sep-07-10 02:23 PM   #46 
     - Meh, minor spelling errors are minor.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-07-10 02:52 PM   #69 
     - No, I'm not mad. I was just ribbing you. n/t  Subdivisions   Sep-07-10 02:54 PM   #73 
     - Funny, on a different forum where both Democrats and Republicans post, I've never  suzie   Sep-07-10 02:58 PM   #79 
        - . n/t  Subdivisions   Sep-07-10 03:03 PM   #83 
        - LOL  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-07-10 03:21 PM   #94 
  - It is all through this thread and the other one  LostinVA   Sep-07-10 02:48 PM   #67 
  - And, suspiciously, using rethug tactics at that. n/t  Subdivisions   Sep-07-10 02:52 PM   #70 
  - ROFL  alcibiades_mystery   Sep-07-10 02:57 PM   #78 
  - "a blatant call out"  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-07-10 03:05 PM   #85 
  - !  Bobbie Jo   Sep-07-10 03:21 PM   #95 
  - BRO FIST  LoZoccolo   Sep-07-10 03:28 PM   #98 
  - ...  HiFructosePronSyrup   Sep-07-10 03:36 PM   #101 
  - Dammit. There goes my second keyboard.  Tarheel_Dem   Sep-07-10 04:04 PM   #115 
  - Pull back! Pull back! You're KILLING them!!!!  Number23   Sep-07-10 08:00 PM   #135 
  - Hahaha!  JuniperLea   Sep-07-10 08:00 PM   #136 
  - If there's a call out, alert on it. That's simple enough.  MineralMan   Sep-07-10 03:19 PM   #91 
     - Don't lecture me on the DU rules  LostinVA   Sep-07-10 03:24 PM   #96 
        - Is that an order? Really?  MineralMan   Sep-07-10 03:39 PM   #104 
        - I bet Sarah does some smashing one sentence lectures.  Whisp   Sep-07-10 08:19 PM   #141 
        - Oh the irony!  JuniperLea   Sep-07-10 08:03 PM   #137 
  - Why would you make that conclusion? nt  blondeatlast   Sep-07-10 07:54 PM   #133 
  - Right...  kenfrequed   Sep-07-10 01:54 PM   #33 
  - If the "issues over personality progressives" don't see that they've helped..  Tarheel_Dem   Sep-07-10 02:28 PM   #52 
     - Unless progressive cause some pain for not being offered a seat at the table ....  GOTV   Sep-07-10 02:36 PM   #58 
     - The problem is, there aren't enough self professed "progressives" to make the..  Tarheel_Dem   Sep-07-10 03:00 PM   #80 
        - Then it doesn't matter if "progressives" show up at the polls, does it?  Fumesucker   Sep-07-10 03:06 PM   #87 
        - Weren't we talking about trolls? I'm sure that term doesn't apply to you. Right? (nt)  Tarheel_Dem   Sep-07-10 03:25 PM   #97 
           - I saw the term "progressives" in your post..  Fumesucker   Sep-07-10 03:32 PM   #99 
              - If I wasn't clear, I apologize. Let me clarify; for Dems to be victorious...  Tarheel_Dem   Sep-07-10 03:50 PM   #107 
                 - Pragmatism does not equal centrism.  Fumesucker   Sep-07-10 03:57 PM   #110 
                 - Elections are won in the middle. That's just a fact. Personally, you guys  Tarheel_Dem   Sep-07-10 04:37 PM   #121 
                    - If it was a hijack it was yours not mine..  Fumesucker   Sep-07-10 04:40 PM   #122 
                       - .....  Tarheel_Dem   Sep-07-10 04:48 PM   #123 
                 - Politics is the art of compromise. If you can't compromise with an essential sub group, you lose.  GOTV   Sep-07-10 08:25 PM   #143 
                 - Well...  kenfrequed   Sep-08-10 01:34 PM   #162 
                 - +1  DCBob   Sep-07-10 08:38 PM   #146 
        - Great! Then you have nothing to fear from them and their concerns can continue to be dismissed  GOTV   Sep-07-10 03:07 PM   #88 
           - Oh, they can definitely cause harm, if that's their intent. And at this point,  Tarheel_Dem   Sep-07-10 03:36 PM   #102 
              - If they can do some damage, and the Dems will not listen otherwise, what choice do they have?  GOTV   Sep-07-10 04:08 PM   #117 
                 - That is exactly the plan Ralph Nader proposed in 2000. And as THD said, it  tblue37   Sep-07-10 04:56 PM   #125 
                    - And has voting for Dems ended 2 wars? Have too big to fail banks gotten smaller?  GOTV   Sep-07-10 08:14 PM   #139 
                       - I *am* a progressive. In fact, I am a socialist. But when the rubber hits the road, I cannot bear  tblue37   Sep-07-10 10:43 PM   #151 
                       - I agree  kenfrequed   Sep-08-10 04:08 PM   #163 
     - Way to project an argument I didn't suggest onto my post in order to put make up on a straw man!  kenfrequed   Sep-07-10 04:04 PM   #116 
  - almost like a cutting and pasting from a script...  Blue_Tires   Sep-07-10 04:02 PM   #112 
  - "Does that come out of the training sessions, because it sounds pretty rote, in my experience."  mzmolly   Sep-07-10 09:08 PM   #149 
  - Yep, they've the workshop talking points down!  JNelson6563   Sep-08-10 07:11 AM   #156 
  - Perhaps DU admin could contact DKOS to obtain Kubica's IP address.  Gold Metal Flake   Sep-07-10 01:38 PM   #23 
  - Very good idea  NJmaverick   Sep-07-10 01:38 PM   #24 
  - That's a very good idea, although DKOS might not give it.  MineralMan   Sep-07-10 01:42 PM   #26 
  - Good idea...  JuniperLea   Sep-07-10 02:33 PM   #55 
  - Too bad this must be a part of internet discussions...  kristopher   Sep-07-10 01:45 PM   #28 
  - Balanced by the tea party being comprised of far left performance artists.  Matariki   Sep-07-10 01:54 PM   #34 
  - That was my theory on Ann Coulter.  glitch   Sep-07-10 06:21 PM   #131 
     - Hmm...  kenfrequed   Sep-08-10 04:38 PM   #165 
  - It's everywhere! You can tell who the sock puppets are cause they're always saying  Joanne98   Sep-07-10 01:58 PM   #37 
  - Absolute Genius!!!! Pure Genius!!! Amazing!!! Whoda Thunk It!!!  Beetwasher   Sep-07-10 02:08 PM   #41 
  - We should definitely ban ALL paid staffers from posting here.  Ignis   Sep-07-10 02:39 PM   #59 
  - You think we have some GOP staffers here at DU?  NJmaverick   Sep-07-10 02:41 PM   #60 
  - I can't disagree with you, or my post will be deleted--but where did I said "GOP?"  Ignis   Sep-07-10 02:56 PM   #75 
  - Paid staffers of what? If you're talking about the GOP or other  MineralMan   Sep-07-10 02:43 PM   #62 
     - Why limit yourself to RWers? Any paid staffers should have to disclose.  Ignis   Sep-07-10 02:56 PM   #77 
        - What about volunteer Democratic staffers should they also have to report to you?  NJmaverick   Sep-07-10 03:01 PM   #82 
        - No, they should voluntarily disclose their association.  Ignis   Sep-07-10 03:34 PM   #100 
           - I would venture to say half the people on DU have been volunteers for various campaigns  NJmaverick   Sep-07-10 04:16 PM   #118 
              - Nifty. And the point of this tangent is ... what, exactly?  Ignis   Sep-07-10 04:50 PM   #124 
                 - It doesn't seem all that unreasonable, although why stop there?  NJmaverick   Sep-07-10 05:43 PM   #128 
                    - I couldn't agree more.  Ignis   Sep-08-10 11:58 AM   #159 
        - Well, I'd agree with that, for sure.  MineralMan   Sep-07-10 03:21 PM   #93 
           - I'm glad to hear that we agree on this issue.  Ignis   Sep-07-10 03:37 PM   #103 
              - Why would we not agree? Paid bloggers should always disclose  MineralMan   Sep-07-10 03:43 PM   #105 
                 - They should, but it's not required here at DU.  Ignis   Sep-07-10 03:55 PM   #108 
                    - I consider it an ethical thing to do. If I have an economic interest  MineralMan   Sep-07-10 04:02 PM   #113 
  - Why does this surprise people? There are liberals and repukes  Rex   Sep-07-10 02:45 PM   #63 
  - You would not believe the extra income it brings in  snooper2   Sep-07-10 02:52 PM   #68 
     - Do tell.  Rex   Sep-07-10 03:01 PM   #81 
        - oh no, I'm a UAW NRA UNICEF member of all..  snooper2   Sep-07-10 08:35 PM   #144 
  - Even the irony challenged should be able to understand the word after this thread.  Stinky The Clown   Sep-07-10 03:56 PM   #109 
  - Indeed. As I said....  Junkdrawer   Sep-07-10 04:04 PM   #114 
  - :snort:  Stinky The Clown   Sep-07-10 04:17 PM   #119 
  - +1  Hassin Bin Sober   Sep-07-10 04:36 PM   #120 
  - it's called cover your ass by disruption.  unapatriciated   Sep-08-10 04:44 PM   #166 
  - +2 nt  laughingliberal   Sep-09-10 01:27 AM   #168 
  - what exactly are you saying?  NJmaverick   Sep-07-10 09:08 PM   #148 
     - When the green simplicity buys a new Camaro, how long will it last to derive a ......  Stinky The Clown   Sep-07-10 09:29 PM   #150 
        - Oh, oh, I know the answer to that!  pecwae   Sep-08-10 07:11 AM   #155 
  - Not surprising...Kos had a bunch of (open) Ron Paul fans during the primaries  Blue_Tires   Sep-07-10 03:59 PM   #111 
  - I wish some of DU sockies would get exposed.  JNelson6563   Sep-07-10 04:59 PM   #126 
  - +1000  Tarheel_Dem   Sep-07-10 05:58 PM   #129 
  - yup  JI7   Sep-08-10 12:42 AM   #152 
  - + infinity  NJmaverick   Sep-08-10 08:05 AM   #157 
  - Yeah, me too.  Forkboy   Sep-08-10 04:24 PM   #164 
  - Please, Please, Please, Please, Please Lord.  Warren DeMontague   Sep-09-10 01:23 AM   #167 
  - +1 for not including a pointless swipe at DUer's like that other  DirkGently   Sep-07-10 07:37 PM   #132 
  - +1  G_j   Sep-07-10 08:21 PM   #142 
  - +2 nt  laughingliberal   Sep-09-10 01:28 AM   #169 
  - K & R  Scurrilous   Sep-08-10 09:52 AM   #158 
 

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