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Mon Sep-06-10 11:55 PM
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| 44. NO. Obama is NOT not planning on cutting and/or raising the retirement age for Social Security. n/t |
| -Obama's taking a strong stand against privatizing Social Security! |
coti |
Sep-06-10 08:20 PM |
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There's no plan to privatize it.. |
sendero |
Sep-06-10 08:23 PM |
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Right. |
coti |
Sep-06-10 08:28 PM |
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Yeah, they won't privatize it. Just gut it. nt |
Bluebear |
Sep-06-10 08:24 PM |
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You're going to have a credibility problem if you don't document or retract |
LoZoccolo |
Sep-06-10 08:29 PM |
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Well, alright. I considered being more specific but didn't want |
coti |
Sep-06-10 08:31 PM |
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Going off of the transcript here: |
coti |
Sep-06-10 09:07 PM |
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Looking at each one of those.. |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-06-10 09:33 PM |
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Obama appointed the damned commission that will be recommending cuts. |
coti |
Sep-06-10 09:44 PM |
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Actually, YOU are being disingenuous |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-06-10 09:55 PM |
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WHEN Congress passes the cuts recommended by the commission |
coti |
Sep-06-10 10:04 PM |
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Ah, yes! Conjecture = Fact in your world |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-06-10 10:13 PM |
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Just answer the question! |
coti |
Sep-06-10 10:23 PM |
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"The support he's shown for" is completely FALSE |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-06-10 11:22 PM |
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Okay, so he created this commission, and then appointed Alan Simpson and Erskine Bowles |
coti |
Sep-06-10 11:45 PM |
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good job this Goldman Sachs admin is working backwards. |
democracy1st |
Sep-06-10 11:45 PM |
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It was once conjecture that we'd lose the public option. |
GOTV |
Sep-07-10 07:55 AM |
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He has gone out of his way to pledge no privatization. Why then-- |
eridani |
Sep-07-10 01:48 AM |
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So who's your source on this? Glen Beck or the Daily Worker? |
Capn Sunshine |
Sep-07-10 12:04 AM |
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The article you quote was writtens month before the bill was passed ... |
GOTV |
Sep-07-10 07:53 AM |
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The transcripts from HuffPo & TPM are not accurate. I'm still waiting on an official transcript. |
MrsCorleone |
Sep-06-10 10:40 PM |
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He is citing this OP as his citation at another thread where we asked for proof. |
Tx4obama |
Sep-06-10 11:44 PM |
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Actually, I cited post #9 for you. Would you care to respond? |
coti |
Sep-06-10 11:56 PM |
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Obama isn't the one with credibility problems. |
KittyWampus |
Sep-06-10 08:31 PM |
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Well, if he wasn't, you'd think more people would believe him. nt |
coti |
Sep-06-10 09:10 PM |
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Get rid of Alan Simpson |
Raine |
Sep-06-10 08:32 PM |
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'Sweet, though no one except for him is talking about that.' |
chill_wind |
Sep-06-10 08:43 PM |
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My favorite strawman argument that politicians make |
Yupster |
Sep-06-10 10:53 PM |
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Unrec for 'half-truths and misdirection'. |
jaxx |
Sep-06-10 09:20 PM |
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What supposition? Is he not planning to cut Social Security and/or raise the |
coti |
Sep-06-10 09:23 PM |
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All supposition. |
jaxx |
Sep-06-10 09:33 PM |
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Is he not planning on cutting and/or raising the retirement age for Social Security? nt |
coti |
Sep-06-10 09:45 PM |
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Are rumors facts? |
jaxx |
Sep-06-10 09:57 PM |
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Answer the question. nt |
coti |
Sep-06-10 10:05 PM |
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You get one response for your dictatorial demand of "answer the question". |
jaxx |
Sep-06-10 10:32 PM |
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You said ALL of my OP statements were supposition, and I expect you to back that up. |
coti |
Sep-06-10 10:42 PM |
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LOL now you've got the supposed recommendations as "fact" |
jaxx |
Sep-06-10 10:53 PM |
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Will he veto them or sign them? nt |
coti |
Sep-06-10 10:55 PM |
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No, and you have yet to substantiate your claim. |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-06-10 10:15 PM |
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So, you're saying he'll veto the cuts recommended by his own commission? nt |
coti |
Sep-06-10 10:26 PM |
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I'm saying a few things |
USArmyParatrooper |
Sep-06-10 11:26 PM |
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What's their purpose? |
coti |
Sep-06-10 11:51 PM |
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NO. Obama is NOT not planning on cutting and/or raising the retirement age for Social Security. n/t |
Tx4obama |
Sep-06-10 11:55 PM |
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See post #38 above. nt |
coti |
Sep-06-10 11:57 PM |
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Actually, there were many DUer's swearing he was "privatizing" |
johnaries |
Sep-06-10 10:45 PM |
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What Obama said today.... |
Tx4obama |
Sep-06-10 11:40 PM |
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Given who is on the commission, slashing will be the alternative to |
eridani |
Sep-07-10 02:13 AM |
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It is Republican John Boehner that wants to raise retirement age to 70, NOT Obama. n/t |
Tx4obama |
Sep-06-10 11:39 PM |
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Why'd you jump threads? The other one get too hot for ya? |
Tx4obama |
Sep-06-10 11:42 PM |
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Yeah, that must be it. Of course, sharper people will notice |
coti |
Sep-06-10 11:47 PM |
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"Sweet, though no one except for him is talking about that." |
BzaDem |
Sep-06-10 11:45 PM |
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No one who is taken seriously is talking about it. His commission isn't |
coti |
Sep-06-10 11:52 PM |
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He is campaigning against Republicans, most of whom want to privatize Social Security. |
BzaDem |
Sep-07-10 12:25 AM |
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Yes, and, even more commonly, they want to cut benefits and raise the retirement age! |
coti |
Sep-07-10 12:34 AM |
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He means ensuring that in 2037, when benefits are scheduled to be cut by 25%, they won't actually be |
BzaDem |
Sep-07-10 12:51 AM |
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How? By cutting benefits or raising the retirement age now? nt |
coti |
Sep-07-10 12:55 AM |
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I do not know what the commission would propose, or whether what they propose will be enacted. |
BzaDem |
Sep-07-10 01:00 AM |
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You're saying he can't raise the cap, so he'll have to cut benefits and/or raise |
coti |
Sep-07-10 01:02 AM |
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No. I'm saying he can't raise the cap, so therefore benefits will be cut WITHOUT ANY FURTHER ACTION. |
BzaDem |
Sep-07-10 01:06 AM |
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In 27 years. By the numbers showing now. |
coti |
Sep-07-10 01:13 AM |
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Let me try to provide the summary. |
BzaDem |
Sep-07-10 01:19 AM |
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Obama would hand Democrats a major weapon if only |
eridani |
Sep-07-10 02:21 AM |
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Republicans Joe Miller (AK) and Sharron Angle (NV) want to, BUT they are NOT Democrats! n/t |
Tx4obama |
Sep-06-10 11:59 PM |
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Bottom line... |
Tx4obama |
Sep-07-10 12:02 AM |
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Of course he hasn't said it. He's leaving that to the commission he set up. |
coti |
Sep-07-10 12:04 AM |
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What bill? There is no bill. A recommendation is NOT a bill. |
Tx4obama |
Sep-07-10 12:06 AM |
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There's no recommendation yet, either. |
coti |
Sep-07-10 12:08 AM |
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I am done with you. You have no proof, no citations, nothing. Ciao! n/t |
Tx4obama |
Sep-07-10 12:10 AM |
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Like I said, see post #38. |
coti |
Sep-07-10 12:12 AM |
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He actually create the commission to solve the entire deficit problem, not just Social Security. |
BzaDem |
Sep-07-10 01:03 AM |
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He knew very well what the commission would do, before even taking office. |
coti |
Sep-07-10 01:10 AM |
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That is not at all surprising. Overhauling Medicare in particular is necessary, because |
BzaDem |
Sep-07-10 01:24 AM |
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It is the same bill that makes Martians overlords of the US! |
whistler162 |
Sep-07-10 07:57 AM |
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You shouldn't use irony when you're going to end up being proven wrong. |
coti |
Sep-07-10 10:57 PM |
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It's not on the bargaining table and he knows that. |
chill_wind |
Sep-07-10 12:32 AM |
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Good post. nt |
coti |
Sep-07-10 12:38 AM |
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Spot on. |
ipaint |
Sep-07-10 08:11 AM |
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I for damn sure won't sit home and let the party of NO take over! |
Stellar |
Sep-07-10 04:38 PM |
#76 |
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