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coti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-10 08:31 PM
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6. Well, alright. I considered being more specific but didn't want
to be too negative about the speech.

Give me a few minutes to go over it and I'll reply with another post.

There's PLENTY in there.
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  -Obama's taking a strong stand against privatizing Social Security! coti  Sep-06-10 08:20 PM   #0 
  - There's no plan to privatize it..  sendero   Sep-06-10 08:23 PM   #1 
  - Right.  coti   Sep-06-10 08:28 PM   #3 
  - Yeah, they won't privatize it. Just gut it. nt  Bluebear   Sep-06-10 08:24 PM   #2 
  - You're going to have a credibility problem if you don't document or retract  LoZoccolo   Sep-06-10 08:29 PM   #4 
  - Well, alright. I considered being more specific but didn't want  coti   Sep-06-10 08:31 PM   #6 
  - Going off of the transcript here:  coti   Sep-06-10 09:07 PM   #9 
  - Looking at each one of those..  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-06-10 09:33 PM   #13 
  - Obama appointed the damned commission that will be recommending cuts.  coti   Sep-06-10 09:44 PM   #15 
  - Actually, YOU are being disingenuous  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-06-10 09:55 PM   #17 
  - WHEN Congress passes the cuts recommended by the commission  coti   Sep-06-10 10:04 PM   #19 
  - Ah, yes! Conjecture = Fact in your world  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-06-10 10:13 PM   #21 
     - Just answer the question!  coti   Sep-06-10 10:23 PM   #23 
     - "The support he's shown for" is completely FALSE  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-06-10 11:22 PM   #32 
     - Okay, so he created this commission, and then appointed Alan Simpson and Erskine Bowles  coti   Sep-06-10 11:45 PM   #38 
     - good job this Goldman Sachs admin is working backwards.  democracy1st   Sep-06-10 11:45 PM   #39 
     - It was once conjecture that we'd lose the public option.  GOTV   Sep-07-10 07:55 AM   #73 
  - He has gone out of his way to pledge no privatization. Why then--  eridani   Sep-07-10 01:48 AM   #69 
  - So who's your source on this? Glen Beck or the Daily Worker?  Capn Sunshine   Sep-07-10 12:04 AM   #50 
  - The article you quote was writtens month before the bill was passed ...  GOTV   Sep-07-10 07:53 AM   #72 
  - The transcripts from HuffPo & TPM are not accurate. I'm still waiting on an official transcript.  MrsCorleone   Sep-06-10 10:40 PM   #26 
  - He is citing this OP as his citation at another thread where we asked for proof.  Tx4obama   Sep-06-10 11:44 PM   #37 
     - Actually, I cited post #9 for you. Would you care to respond?  coti   Sep-06-10 11:56 PM   #45 
  - Obama isn't the one with credibility problems.  KittyWampus   Sep-06-10 08:31 PM   #5 
  - Well, if he wasn't, you'd think more people would believe him. nt  coti   Sep-06-10 09:10 PM   #10 
  - Get rid of Alan Simpson  Raine   Sep-06-10 08:32 PM   #7 
  - 'Sweet, though no one except for him is talking about that.'  chill_wind   Sep-06-10 08:43 PM   #8 
  - My favorite strawman argument that politicians make  Yupster   Sep-06-10 10:53 PM   #29 
  - Unrec for 'half-truths and misdirection'.  jaxx   Sep-06-10 09:20 PM   #11 
  - What supposition? Is he not planning to cut Social Security and/or raise the  coti   Sep-06-10 09:23 PM   #12 
     - All supposition.  jaxx   Sep-06-10 09:33 PM   #14 
        - Is he not planning on cutting and/or raising the retirement age for Social Security? nt  coti   Sep-06-10 09:45 PM   #16 
           - Are rumors facts?  jaxx   Sep-06-10 09:57 PM   #18 
           - Answer the question. nt  coti   Sep-06-10 10:05 PM   #20 
              - You get one response for your dictatorial demand of "answer the question".  jaxx   Sep-06-10 10:32 PM   #25 
                 - You said ALL of my OP statements were supposition, and I expect you to back that up.  coti   Sep-06-10 10:42 PM   #27 
                    - LOL now you've got the supposed recommendations as "fact"  jaxx   Sep-06-10 10:53 PM   #30 
                       - Will he veto them or sign them? nt  coti   Sep-06-10 10:55 PM   #31 
           - No, and you have yet to substantiate your claim.  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-06-10 10:15 PM   #22 
           - So, you're saying he'll veto the cuts recommended by his own commission? nt  coti   Sep-06-10 10:26 PM   #24 
              - I'm saying a few things  USArmyParatrooper   Sep-06-10 11:26 PM   #33 
                 - What's their purpose?  coti   Sep-06-10 11:51 PM   #42 
           - NO. Obama is NOT not planning on cutting and/or raising the retirement age for Social Security. n/t  Tx4obama   Sep-06-10 11:55 PM   #44 
              - See post #38 above. nt  coti   Sep-06-10 11:57 PM   #46 
  - Actually, there were many DUer's swearing he was "privatizing"  johnaries   Sep-06-10 10:45 PM   #28 
  - What Obama said today....  Tx4obama   Sep-06-10 11:40 PM   #35 
  - Given who is on the commission, slashing will be the alternative to  eridani   Sep-07-10 02:13 AM   #70 
  - It is Republican John Boehner that wants to raise retirement age to 70, NOT Obama. n/t  Tx4obama   Sep-06-10 11:39 PM   #34 
  - Why'd you jump threads? The other one get too hot for ya?  Tx4obama   Sep-06-10 11:42 PM   #36 
  - Yeah, that must be it. Of course, sharper people will notice  coti   Sep-06-10 11:47 PM   #41 
  - "Sweet, though no one except for him is talking about that."  BzaDem   Sep-06-10 11:45 PM   #40 
  - No one who is taken seriously is talking about it. His commission isn't  coti   Sep-06-10 11:52 PM   #43 
  - He is campaigning against Republicans, most of whom want to privatize Social Security.  BzaDem   Sep-07-10 12:25 AM   #55 
     - Yes, and, even more commonly, they want to cut benefits and raise the retirement age!  coti   Sep-07-10 12:34 AM   #57 
     - He means ensuring that in 2037, when benefits are scheduled to be cut by 25%, they won't actually be  BzaDem   Sep-07-10 12:51 AM   #59 
        - How? By cutting benefits or raising the retirement age now? nt  coti   Sep-07-10 12:55 AM   #60 
           - I do not know what the commission would propose, or whether what they propose will be enacted.  BzaDem   Sep-07-10 01:00 AM   #61 
              - You're saying he can't raise the cap, so he'll have to cut benefits and/or raise  coti   Sep-07-10 01:02 AM   #62 
                 - No. I'm saying he can't raise the cap, so therefore benefits will be cut WITHOUT ANY FURTHER ACTION.  BzaDem   Sep-07-10 01:06 AM   #64 
                    - In 27 years. By the numbers showing now.  coti   Sep-07-10 01:13 AM   #66 
                       - Let me try to provide the summary.  BzaDem   Sep-07-10 01:19 AM   #67 
     - Obama would hand Democrats a major weapon if only  eridani   Sep-07-10 02:21 AM   #71 
  - Republicans Joe Miller (AK) and Sharron Angle (NV) want to, BUT they are NOT Democrats! n/t  Tx4obama   Sep-06-10 11:59 PM   #47 
  - Bottom line...  Tx4obama   Sep-07-10 12:02 AM   #48 
  - Of course he hasn't said it. He's leaving that to the commission he set up.  coti   Sep-07-10 12:04 AM   #49 
     - What bill? There is no bill. A recommendation is NOT a bill.  Tx4obama   Sep-07-10 12:06 AM   #51 
        - There's no recommendation yet, either.  coti   Sep-07-10 12:08 AM   #52 
        - I am done with you. You have no proof, no citations, nothing. Ciao! n/t  Tx4obama   Sep-07-10 12:10 AM   #53 
           - Like I said, see post #38.  coti   Sep-07-10 12:12 AM   #54 
              - He actually create the commission to solve the entire deficit problem, not just Social Security.  BzaDem   Sep-07-10 01:03 AM   #63 
                 - He knew very well what the commission would do, before even taking office.  coti   Sep-07-10 01:10 AM   #65 
                    - That is not at all surprising. Overhauling Medicare in particular is necessary, because  BzaDem   Sep-07-10 01:24 AM   #68 
        - It is the same bill that makes Martians overlords of the US!  whistler162   Sep-07-10 07:57 AM   #74 
           - You shouldn't use irony when you're going to end up being proven wrong.  coti   Sep-07-10 10:57 PM   #77 
  - It's not on the bargaining table and he knows that.  chill_wind   Sep-07-10 12:32 AM   #56 
  - Good post. nt  coti   Sep-07-10 12:38 AM   #58 
  - Spot on.  ipaint   Sep-07-10 08:11 AM   #75 
  - I for damn sure won't sit home and let the party of NO take over!  Stellar   Sep-07-10 04:38 PM   #76 

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