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Mon Sep-06-10 12:00 PM
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| 1. Why isn't welfare strictly a jobs training program? |
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A person's skills should be evaluated upon entering a program, with remedial classes as necessary, child care provided throughout. Once they pass the training, they should start interning in government sites, where they can establish a work record that can be used to get a regular job.
If they can't pick up what is needed for higher level jobs, they need to consider the ickier jobs like working in a chicken factory or as a farm worker. But we must all acknowledge the dignity of work. Nothing should be too menial that we sneer on the people who do these jobs.
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| -A National Disaster: Examining a Welfare System Broken by Reform |
Lyric |
Sep-06-10 11:43 AM |
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Why isn't welfare strictly a jobs training program? |
dkf |
Sep-06-10 12:00 PM |
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for what jobs? |
ibegurpard |
Sep-06-10 12:06 PM |
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If we can get the economy to recover they will come online. |
dkf |
Sep-06-10 03:23 PM |
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In my piece, I propose that welfare should be an "education-first" program |
Lyric |
Sep-06-10 12:08 PM |
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Shouldn't all jobs provide a livable wage? |
dkf |
Sep-06-10 03:25 PM |
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That's a valid argument in and of itself |
Lyric |
Sep-06-10 04:05 PM |
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So, you want the elderly, ill and too young of your family to have to take those "icky" jobs? |
bobbolink |
Sep-06-10 03:36 PM |
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+1 |
readmoreoften |
Sep-06-10 04:23 PM |
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I don't get into discussion of jobs, because disability is ignored. |
bobbolink |
Sep-06-10 04:37 PM |
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Elderly and ill get SS. The young rely on their parents who need to get with the program. |
dkf |
Sep-06-10 09:07 PM |
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I am trying to think of any "reform" program that has ended up actually helping people. |
dixiegrrrrl |
Sep-06-10 12:05 PM |
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We should respect the dignity of families and the work of mothers |
My Good Babushka |
Sep-06-10 12:06 PM |
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We also need to be organizing people on welfare, the unemployed, seniors .... |
defendandprotect |
Sep-06-10 03:31 PM |
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Yes, "we" NEED to... I have been saying that for years. |
bobbolink |
Sep-06-10 03:37 PM |
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When I was ...... |
defendandprotect |
Sep-06-10 04:08 PM |
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Even 30 years ago???? SHIT! |
bobbolink |
Sep-06-10 04:17 PM |
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But it's always been true that TPTB don't care about anyone but |
defendandprotect |
Sep-06-10 04:25 PM |
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Yes, we were ignorant and ignored the relentless march of corporate money. |
bobbolink |
Sep-06-10 04:33 PM |
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Sidebar.... A DUer got me into a book that is validating me and helping my thinking |
bobbolink |
Sep-06-10 04:26 PM |
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Well, I'd be interested in this part of it . . . |
defendandprotect |
Sep-06-10 08:04 PM |
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I'm not that far yet. I think its important to have a firm foundation to act from. |
bobbolink |
Sep-06-10 08:28 PM |
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Presume you'll do an OP on this when you finsih the book? Let me know -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-06-10 08:29 PM |
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Well, I have an essay half-formed, which includes Barbara Ehrenreich's |
bobbolink |
Sep-06-10 08:41 PM |
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See . . . |
defendandprotect |
Sep-06-10 11:09 PM |
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Let's keep in mind that Bill Clinton wiped out the 60 Welfare safety net, with a nod from Gore--! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-06-10 03:25 PM |
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If you read the piece, you'll see that I explicitly mention the fact |
Lyric |
Sep-06-10 04:04 PM |
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Scanned it quickly -- |
defendandprotect |
Sep-06-10 04:13 PM |
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