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52. very well stated! kr nt
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  -The Role of Spite and Magical Thinking in Elections MineralMan  Sep-03-10 09:55 AM   #0 
  - No spite = Democratic might  flamingdem   Sep-03-10 10:01 AM   #1 
  - Vote YES on MinMan advice!!!  kctim   Sep-03-10 10:09 AM   #2 
  - Seconded. nt  quiet.american   Sep-03-10 10:20 AM   #6 
  - K&R  JTFrog   Sep-03-10 10:10 AM   #3 
  - K & R!  NJmaverick   Sep-03-10 10:14 AM   #4 
  - Thanks for the kicks!  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 10:14 AM   #5 
  - EXCELLENT post! Thank you.  BrklynLiberal   Sep-03-10 10:21 AM   #7 
  - K&R  LongTomH   Sep-03-10 10:23 AM   #8 
  - Fired up! Ready to go!  JNelson6563   Sep-03-10 10:24 AM   #9 
  - If we just accept what we are given, without demanding more  Pab Sungenis   Sep-03-10 10:35 AM   #10 
  - Who said anything about not demanding more? This is not about  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 11:44 AM   #17 
  - But until some of the DINOs start dying off  Pab Sungenis   Sep-03-10 01:27 PM   #34 
     - One of the problems with that is the regionality of  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 02:38 PM   #43 
        - Maybe give us a little more than lip service?  Pab Sungenis   Sep-03-10 02:48 PM   #47 
           - Well, you can certainly visit her campaign web site. She has  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 04:01 PM   #59 
  - deleted  phasma ex machina   Sep-03-10 03:57 PM   # 
  - K & R! n/t  Political Tiger   Sep-03-10 10:43 AM   #11 
  - What a post! The truth is a welcome relief from the BS.  jaxx   Sep-03-10 11:03 AM   #12 
  - K & R  mzteris   Sep-03-10 11:04 AM   #13 
  - Some of it is certainly spite.  pintobean   Sep-03-10 11:06 AM   #14 
  - The principle is that Democrats advance progress. Republicans  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 11:57 AM   #19 
  - spite  pintobean   Sep-03-10 01:03 PM   #29 
     - I'm not talking about DUers specifically.  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 01:20 PM   #30 
  - The "vote for rather than against" is illogical in our system of elections and govt.  DevonRex   Sep-03-10 01:42 PM   #35 
  - Read Mark Ames'  Davis_X_Machina   Sep-03-10 11:09 AM   #15 
  - Thanks for the link. I hadn't seen that.  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 11:57 AM   #20 
  - Point made.  HughMoran   Sep-03-10 11:17 AM   #16 
  - Yup  Beetwasher   Sep-03-10 11:54 AM   #18 
  - Uh. Who gives a fuck about Ralph Nader? I haven't seen one DUer tell anyone to vote for Nader.  readmoreoften   Sep-03-10 11:58 AM   #21 
  - Nader is just an example, you see. You may have not read  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 12:37 PM   #26 
  - That's a good description of Nader, a bogeyman. He sure scares me.  Kahuna   Sep-03-10 01:02 PM   #28 
  - K & R  Scurrilous   Sep-03-10 12:01 PM   #22 
  - K&U  inna   Sep-04-10 12:54 PM   #129 
  - Why do you think beating up on Democrats is a good idea? It's pretty spiteful, actually.  EFerrari   Sep-03-10 12:05 PM   #23 
  - Democrats vote for Democrats. That's how they get their name.  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 12:36 PM   #25 
  - You certainly are beating up on Democrats. It's divisive, not to mention, stupid.  EFerrari   Sep-04-10 03:00 PM   #134 
  - First clue that a person is NOT a Democrat is that he/she doesn't vote for Democrats.  DevonRex   Sep-03-10 01:22 PM   #32 
  - That addresses his straw man but not my question. Even simpler.  EFerrari   Sep-04-10 02:59 PM   #133 
  - no kidding.  inna   Sep-04-10 12:55 PM   #130 
  - Very well said.  DevonRex   Sep-03-10 12:20 PM   #24 
  - +1  suzie   Sep-03-10 12:43 PM   #27 
  - I sure hope they are. We need every vote in November.  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 01:21 PM   #31 
     - On a good note, here in my state the independents are lining up strongly  DevonRex   Sep-03-10 01:25 PM   #33 
  - You should look at this from the Political Science POV  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-03-10 01:50 PM   #36 
  - In my opinion, Political Science is neither Political or Scientific.  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 02:25 PM   #40 
     - I am not making that mistake  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-03-10 02:41 PM   #44 
     - Take one for the team.  BlackHoleSon   Sep-03-10 03:56 PM   #54 
        - Bingo and welcome to DU  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-03-10 08:41 PM   #101 
  - Thank you!!! You said it way better than I ever could n/t  pipi_k   Sep-03-10 01:56 PM   #37 
  - That's why the "see why we voted for Nader?" thread was a complete idiotic joke  scheming daemons   Sep-03-10 02:10 PM   #38 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-03-10 02:18 PM   #39 
  - No. Actually, I'm calling for people to pull in the same direction.  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 02:27 PM   #42 
     - No you're not you're lecturing once again and berating as you usually do.  Raineyb   Sep-03-10 02:45 PM   #45 
        - My dear Raineyb,  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 02:48 PM   #46 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-03-10 02:52 PM   #49 
           - I'm afraid I don't understand. Here you are, freely posting in  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 03:11 PM   #50 
              - You don't understand? Are you playing coy? Two of my messages on this thread have been  Raineyb   Sep-04-10 11:26 AM   #116 
                 - I saw that they had been deleted. I suppose they broke some  MineralMan   Sep-04-10 11:34 AM   #118 
        - Your comments suggest you don't plan on voting for Democrats  NJmaverick   Sep-03-10 04:00 PM   #58 
           - If you think that then I would suggest brushing up on your reading comprehension skills.  Raineyb   Sep-04-10 11:25 AM   #115 
  - Too True ..N/T  h8okra   Sep-03-10 02:26 PM   #41 
  - Wonderful post!  gulliver   Sep-03-10 02:48 PM   #48 
  - K&R  Kat45   Sep-03-10 03:45 PM   #51 
  - very well stated! kr nt  ecstatic   Sep-03-10 03:49 PM   #52 
  - Gee, first we were "Fucking Retarded", then "Are On Drugs", and now we are "Spiteful".  Odin2005   Sep-03-10 03:51 PM   #53 
  - In my humble opinion if you are not voting Dem in November  NJmaverick   Sep-03-10 03:59 PM   #56 
  - +1 Cynicism is not the answer. nt  phasma ex machina   Sep-03-10 04:03 PM   #61 
  - I will not vote for "Dems" that vote like Pukes.  Odin2005   Sep-03-10 04:14 PM   #65 
     - Ironic use of the word "real" as in real politicians have to deal with real politics  NJmaverick   Sep-03-10 04:16 PM   #67 
     - Voting for REAL Democrats is very good.  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 04:19 PM   #71 
        - Alvin Greene  pintobean   Sep-03-10 07:25 PM   #83 
           - LOL!  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 08:07 PM   #92 
              - Only a spiteful Democrat would leave that one blank.  pintobean   Sep-03-10 08:38 PM   #99 
                 - That one's sort of a special case, isn't it? I'll never quite understand  MineralMan   Sep-04-10 11:53 AM   #122 
  - Did I use those other two terms you placed in quotation marks?  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 04:00 PM   #57 
     - It's called a pattern of namecalling from those who want us Progressive to shut up.  Odin2005   Sep-03-10 04:12 PM   #64 
        - Well, I'd certainly not tell you to shut up. So, I'm not really sure  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 04:16 PM   #68 
  - Thank you for your well-stated thoughts.  The Velveteen Ocelot   Sep-03-10 03:57 PM   #55 
  - Thanks for your feedback. And thanks for supporting  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 04:03 PM   #60 
     - I will always support Democrats.  The Velveteen Ocelot   Sep-03-10 04:17 PM   #70 
        - I agree completely. Defeating Michele Bachmann is a high  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 04:38 PM   #77 
  - Because it's "spiteful" unless you vote for "my" guy. Check.  Bonobo   Sep-03-10 04:06 PM   #62 
  - Unrec for yet another attempt to absolve politicians from all responsibility..  Fumesucker   Sep-03-10 04:07 PM   #63 
  - You must have mixed up posts, because there was nothing in this OP  NJmaverick   Sep-03-10 04:15 PM   #66 
  - Wow! Did I do that? I don't remember absolving anyone of  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 04:27 PM   #75 
  - You blame it all on anyone who doesn't blindly vote for Democratic candidates..  Fumesucker   Sep-03-10 04:59 PM   #79 
     - I guess I'm lucky. I get to vote for Al Franken and Betty McCollum.  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 07:09 PM   #82 
        - I don't like your chiding manner..  Fumesucker   Sep-03-10 07:45 PM   #88 
           - Quite frankly, I'm not concerned whether you like my manner or  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 08:02 PM   #90 
           - "And I don't live in Minnesota, lucky you."  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 08:08 PM   #94 
           - As I said, you have no idea of my situation in life..  Fumesucker   Sep-03-10 08:21 PM   #96 
              - You're right. I don't have any idea. How would I?  MineralMan   Sep-04-10 11:42 AM   #120 
                 - Why then would you give advice that you have no way of knowing whether or not I can follow?  Fumesucker   Sep-05-10 05:32 AM   #138 
           - no one could blame you  ShamelessHussy   Sep-03-10 10:25 PM   #108 
  - +1 nt  Electric Monk   Sep-03-10 09:10 PM   #104 
  - I've voted the lesser of two evils for 35 years and the elite finally took every last cent I had  ipaint   Sep-03-10 04:17 PM   #69 
  - Way to toss the Muslims and many other minorities under the bus  NJmaverick   Sep-03-10 04:24 PM   #73 
  - Things can get much worse for you, as you will see if today's Republicans take power.  BzaDem   Sep-03-10 04:25 PM   #74 
  - Sorry the empty threats, smears and scare tactics don't work.  ipaint   Sep-03-10 04:41 PM   #78 
     - Twisted  HughMoran   Sep-03-10 06:53 PM   #81 
        - Yes, I used to think that too but after 35 years  ipaint   Sep-03-10 09:01 PM   #102 
        - Have a pleasant life  HughMoran   Sep-03-10 09:06 PM   #103 
        - What's "twisted" is your despicable way of constantly attacking people.  inna   Sep-04-10 02:12 PM   #132 
  - ...  The Velveteen Ocelot   Sep-03-10 05:20 PM   #80 
     - Yup, I'm definitely voting  rusty fender   Sep-05-10 10:45 AM   #140 
  - Naderites are idgits  jpak   Sep-03-10 04:19 PM   #72 
  - This post is not about Nader. I merely used him as an example  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 04:29 PM   #76 
  - You don't get it- and probably never will  depakid   Sep-03-10 07:34 PM   #84 
  - Do I lose? Really?  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 07:41 PM   #85 
     - Actually, I worked for Jeff Merkley in 2008  depakid   Sep-03-10 08:07 PM   #93 
        - I'm not "fucked" at all.  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 08:14 PM   #95 
  - Rec'd! This is great  Number23   Sep-03-10 07:43 PM   #86 
  - Thanks very much for your support. Every single person makes  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 07:45 PM   #87 
  - Another attack another day.  Warren Stupidity   Sep-03-10 07:50 PM   #89 
  - Are they helping? I don't know. I post what I want to post.  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 08:04 PM   #91 
  - My next vote is magical, indeed.  Forkboy   Sep-03-10 08:26 PM   #97 
  - Did you see Eugene Robinson's column today?  Kat45   Sep-03-10 08:29 PM   #98 
  - Thanks for the link. I'll go read that. I heard a reference to it  MineralMan   Sep-04-10 08:44 AM   #111 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-03-10 08:40 PM   #100 
  - insulting folks who have legitimate grievances will probably have the opposite effect of uniting  ShamelessHussy   Sep-03-10 09:12 PM   #105 
  - That's pretty much my take on it to..  Fumesucker   Sep-03-10 09:16 PM   #107 
  - I am thinking your actions are not helping to unite people  NJmaverick   Sep-04-10 08:48 AM   #113 
     - I am thinking your actions aren't helping to unite people either..  Fumesucker   Sep-05-10 05:31 AM   #137 
  - Attacking folks for making a point, by feigning insult doesn't work either  NJmaverick   Sep-04-10 08:47 AM   #112 
  - Well, as I said in the post, I'm going for getting Democrats  MineralMan   Sep-04-10 10:49 AM   #114 
     - Insulting, and belittling folks you are trying to attract, isn't a winning strategy  ShamelessHussy   Sep-04-10 12:14 PM   #127 
  - Very interesting. KnR. Took quite awhile to read through this long thread, but well worth it  Hekate   Sep-03-10 09:13 PM   #106 
  - That's great that you're getting your personal politics in order.  coti   Sep-04-10 04:22 AM   #109 
     - Have we met?  Hekate   Sep-04-10 07:12 AM   #110 
  - Too late to rec, but at least I can give you a kick!  hedgehog   Sep-04-10 11:27 AM   #117 
  - Thanks! Recs and Unrecs don't matter, anyhow.  MineralMan   Sep-04-10 11:36 AM   #119 
  - Why is the mean and petty namecalling stuff always a part of the  Bluenorthwest   Sep-04-10 11:44 AM   #121 
  - They keep doing  pintobean   Sep-04-10 11:56 AM   #123 
  - I'm just an optimist, I guess.  MineralMan   Sep-04-10 11:59 AM   #125 
  - You know, I never have voted for a Republican. I can't imagine  MineralMan   Sep-04-10 11:57 AM   #124 
  - Your post was a major turn off  Bluenorthwest   Sep-04-10 12:05 PM   #126 
     - Well, a number of people apparently disagree with your  MineralMan   Sep-04-10 12:25 PM   #128 
  - Oddly enough the only "name calling I could find was  NJmaverick   Sep-04-10 01:32 PM   #131 
  - And in contrast, you, of course, are the most sensible of Democrats!  katandmoon   Sep-04-10 07:53 PM   #135 
  - Dissatisfaction is not spite. nt  LWolf   Sep-04-10 07:57 PM   #136 
  - Kicko  NoPasaran   Sep-05-10 08:15 AM   #139 
  - Kick  Scurrilous   Sep-05-10 07:09 PM   #141 
 

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