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51. K&R
Edited on Fri Sep-03-10 03:46 PM by Kat45
I see that behavior as as cutting off your nose to spite your face. If the republicans get control of any branch of the legislature, we are screwed. They will work to undo any good things that have been done and take things backwards as far as they can. And sadly, the Democratic losses will be blamed on their being "too liberal," which will cause the party to move even further to the right, fleeing more from progressive ideals. I just hope that enough voters realize that a major reason the economy still sucks is because of the republicans saying no to any positive moves, including extending unemployment benefits and helping veterans. I hope they do not blame the Democratic party because "they're the ones in charge." (Yes, the blue dogs have also been saying no to things, but I'm stating it in the black-and-white manner that people are accustomed to believing.)
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  -The Role of Spite and Magical Thinking in Elections MineralMan  Sep-03-10 09:55 AM   #0 
  - No spite = Democratic might  flamingdem   Sep-03-10 10:01 AM   #1 
  - Vote YES on MinMan advice!!!  kctim   Sep-03-10 10:09 AM   #2 
  - Seconded. nt  quiet.american   Sep-03-10 10:20 AM   #6 
  - K&R  JTFrog   Sep-03-10 10:10 AM   #3 
  - K & R!  NJmaverick   Sep-03-10 10:14 AM   #4 
  - Thanks for the kicks!  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 10:14 AM   #5 
  - EXCELLENT post! Thank you.  BrklynLiberal   Sep-03-10 10:21 AM   #7 
  - K&R  LongTomH   Sep-03-10 10:23 AM   #8 
  - Fired up! Ready to go!  JNelson6563   Sep-03-10 10:24 AM   #9 
  - If we just accept what we are given, without demanding more  Pab Sungenis   Sep-03-10 10:35 AM   #10 
  - Who said anything about not demanding more? This is not about  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 11:44 AM   #17 
  - But until some of the DINOs start dying off  Pab Sungenis   Sep-03-10 01:27 PM   #34 
     - One of the problems with that is the regionality of  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 02:38 PM   #43 
        - Maybe give us a little more than lip service?  Pab Sungenis   Sep-03-10 02:48 PM   #47 
           - Well, you can certainly visit her campaign web site. She has  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 04:01 PM   #59 
  - deleted  phasma ex machina   Sep-03-10 03:57 PM   # 
  - K & R! n/t  Political Tiger   Sep-03-10 10:43 AM   #11 
  - What a post! The truth is a welcome relief from the BS.  jaxx   Sep-03-10 11:03 AM   #12 
  - K & R  mzteris   Sep-03-10 11:04 AM   #13 
  - Some of it is certainly spite.  pintobean   Sep-03-10 11:06 AM   #14 
  - The principle is that Democrats advance progress. Republicans  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 11:57 AM   #19 
  - spite  pintobean   Sep-03-10 01:03 PM   #29 
     - I'm not talking about DUers specifically.  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 01:20 PM   #30 
  - The "vote for rather than against" is illogical in our system of elections and govt.  DevonRex   Sep-03-10 01:42 PM   #35 
  - Read Mark Ames'  Davis_X_Machina   Sep-03-10 11:09 AM   #15 
  - Thanks for the link. I hadn't seen that.  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 11:57 AM   #20 
  - Point made.  HughMoran   Sep-03-10 11:17 AM   #16 
  - Yup  Beetwasher   Sep-03-10 11:54 AM   #18 
  - Uh. Who gives a fuck about Ralph Nader? I haven't seen one DUer tell anyone to vote for Nader.  readmoreoften   Sep-03-10 11:58 AM   #21 
  - Nader is just an example, you see. You may have not read  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 12:37 PM   #26 
  - That's a good description of Nader, a bogeyman. He sure scares me.  Kahuna   Sep-03-10 01:02 PM   #28 
  - K & R  Scurrilous   Sep-03-10 12:01 PM   #22 
  - K&U  inna   Sep-04-10 12:54 PM   #129 
  - Why do you think beating up on Democrats is a good idea? It's pretty spiteful, actually.  EFerrari   Sep-03-10 12:05 PM   #23 
  - Democrats vote for Democrats. That's how they get their name.  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 12:36 PM   #25 
  - You certainly are beating up on Democrats. It's divisive, not to mention, stupid.  EFerrari   Sep-04-10 03:00 PM   #134 
  - First clue that a person is NOT a Democrat is that he/she doesn't vote for Democrats.  DevonRex   Sep-03-10 01:22 PM   #32 
  - That addresses his straw man but not my question. Even simpler.  EFerrari   Sep-04-10 02:59 PM   #133 
  - no kidding.  inna   Sep-04-10 12:55 PM   #130 
  - Very well said.  DevonRex   Sep-03-10 12:20 PM   #24 
  - +1  suzie   Sep-03-10 12:43 PM   #27 
  - I sure hope they are. We need every vote in November.  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 01:21 PM   #31 
     - On a good note, here in my state the independents are lining up strongly  DevonRex   Sep-03-10 01:25 PM   #33 
  - You should look at this from the Political Science POV  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-03-10 01:50 PM   #36 
  - In my opinion, Political Science is neither Political or Scientific.  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 02:25 PM   #40 
     - I am not making that mistake  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-03-10 02:41 PM   #44 
     - Take one for the team.  BlackHoleSon   Sep-03-10 03:56 PM   #54 
        - Bingo and welcome to DU  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-03-10 08:41 PM   #101 
  - Thank you!!! You said it way better than I ever could n/t  pipi_k   Sep-03-10 01:56 PM   #37 
  - That's why the "see why we voted for Nader?" thread was a complete idiotic joke  scheming daemons   Sep-03-10 02:10 PM   #38 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-03-10 02:18 PM   #39 
  - No. Actually, I'm calling for people to pull in the same direction.  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 02:27 PM   #42 
     - No you're not you're lecturing once again and berating as you usually do.  Raineyb   Sep-03-10 02:45 PM   #45 
        - My dear Raineyb,  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 02:48 PM   #46 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-03-10 02:52 PM   #49 
           - I'm afraid I don't understand. Here you are, freely posting in  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 03:11 PM   #50 
              - You don't understand? Are you playing coy? Two of my messages on this thread have been  Raineyb   Sep-04-10 11:26 AM   #116 
                 - I saw that they had been deleted. I suppose they broke some  MineralMan   Sep-04-10 11:34 AM   #118 
        - Your comments suggest you don't plan on voting for Democrats  NJmaverick   Sep-03-10 04:00 PM   #58 
           - If you think that then I would suggest brushing up on your reading comprehension skills.  Raineyb   Sep-04-10 11:25 AM   #115 
  - Too True ..N/T  h8okra   Sep-03-10 02:26 PM   #41 
  - Wonderful post!  gulliver   Sep-03-10 02:48 PM   #48 
  - K&R  Kat45   Sep-03-10 03:45 PM   #51 
  - very well stated! kr nt  ecstatic   Sep-03-10 03:49 PM   #52 
  - Gee, first we were "Fucking Retarded", then "Are On Drugs", and now we are "Spiteful".  Odin2005   Sep-03-10 03:51 PM   #53 
  - In my humble opinion if you are not voting Dem in November  NJmaverick   Sep-03-10 03:59 PM   #56 
  - +1 Cynicism is not the answer. nt  phasma ex machina   Sep-03-10 04:03 PM   #61 
  - I will not vote for "Dems" that vote like Pukes.  Odin2005   Sep-03-10 04:14 PM   #65 
     - Ironic use of the word "real" as in real politicians have to deal with real politics  NJmaverick   Sep-03-10 04:16 PM   #67 
     - Voting for REAL Democrats is very good.  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 04:19 PM   #71 
        - Alvin Greene  pintobean   Sep-03-10 07:25 PM   #83 
           - LOL!  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 08:07 PM   #92 
              - Only a spiteful Democrat would leave that one blank.  pintobean   Sep-03-10 08:38 PM   #99 
                 - That one's sort of a special case, isn't it? I'll never quite understand  MineralMan   Sep-04-10 11:53 AM   #122 
  - Did I use those other two terms you placed in quotation marks?  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 04:00 PM   #57 
     - It's called a pattern of namecalling from those who want us Progressive to shut up.  Odin2005   Sep-03-10 04:12 PM   #64 
        - Well, I'd certainly not tell you to shut up. So, I'm not really sure  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 04:16 PM   #68 
  - Thank you for your well-stated thoughts.  The Velveteen Ocelot   Sep-03-10 03:57 PM   #55 
  - Thanks for your feedback. And thanks for supporting  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 04:03 PM   #60 
     - I will always support Democrats.  The Velveteen Ocelot   Sep-03-10 04:17 PM   #70 
        - I agree completely. Defeating Michele Bachmann is a high  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 04:38 PM   #77 
  - Because it's "spiteful" unless you vote for "my" guy. Check.  Bonobo   Sep-03-10 04:06 PM   #62 
  - Unrec for yet another attempt to absolve politicians from all responsibility..  Fumesucker   Sep-03-10 04:07 PM   #63 
  - You must have mixed up posts, because there was nothing in this OP  NJmaverick   Sep-03-10 04:15 PM   #66 
  - Wow! Did I do that? I don't remember absolving anyone of  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 04:27 PM   #75 
  - You blame it all on anyone who doesn't blindly vote for Democratic candidates..  Fumesucker   Sep-03-10 04:59 PM   #79 
     - I guess I'm lucky. I get to vote for Al Franken and Betty McCollum.  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 07:09 PM   #82 
        - I don't like your chiding manner..  Fumesucker   Sep-03-10 07:45 PM   #88 
           - Quite frankly, I'm not concerned whether you like my manner or  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 08:02 PM   #90 
           - "And I don't live in Minnesota, lucky you."  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 08:08 PM   #94 
           - As I said, you have no idea of my situation in life..  Fumesucker   Sep-03-10 08:21 PM   #96 
              - You're right. I don't have any idea. How would I?  MineralMan   Sep-04-10 11:42 AM   #120 
                 - Why then would you give advice that you have no way of knowing whether or not I can follow?  Fumesucker   Sep-05-10 05:32 AM   #138 
           - no one could blame you  ShamelessHussy   Sep-03-10 10:25 PM   #108 
  - +1 nt  Electric Monk   Sep-03-10 09:10 PM   #104 
  - I've voted the lesser of two evils for 35 years and the elite finally took every last cent I had  ipaint   Sep-03-10 04:17 PM   #69 
  - Way to toss the Muslims and many other minorities under the bus  NJmaverick   Sep-03-10 04:24 PM   #73 
  - Things can get much worse for you, as you will see if today's Republicans take power.  BzaDem   Sep-03-10 04:25 PM   #74 
  - Sorry the empty threats, smears and scare tactics don't work.  ipaint   Sep-03-10 04:41 PM   #78 
     - Twisted  HughMoran   Sep-03-10 06:53 PM   #81 
        - Yes, I used to think that too but after 35 years  ipaint   Sep-03-10 09:01 PM   #102 
        - Have a pleasant life  HughMoran   Sep-03-10 09:06 PM   #103 
        - What's "twisted" is your despicable way of constantly attacking people.  inna   Sep-04-10 02:12 PM   #132 
  - ...  The Velveteen Ocelot   Sep-03-10 05:20 PM   #80 
     - Yup, I'm definitely voting  rusty fender   Sep-05-10 10:45 AM   #140 
  - Naderites are idgits  jpak   Sep-03-10 04:19 PM   #72 
  - This post is not about Nader. I merely used him as an example  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 04:29 PM   #76 
  - You don't get it- and probably never will  depakid   Sep-03-10 07:34 PM   #84 
  - Do I lose? Really?  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 07:41 PM   #85 
     - Actually, I worked for Jeff Merkley in 2008  depakid   Sep-03-10 08:07 PM   #93 
        - I'm not "fucked" at all.  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 08:14 PM   #95 
  - Rec'd! This is great  Number23   Sep-03-10 07:43 PM   #86 
  - Thanks very much for your support. Every single person makes  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 07:45 PM   #87 
  - Another attack another day.  Warren Stupidity   Sep-03-10 07:50 PM   #89 
  - Are they helping? I don't know. I post what I want to post.  MineralMan   Sep-03-10 08:04 PM   #91 
  - My next vote is magical, indeed.  Forkboy   Sep-03-10 08:26 PM   #97 
  - Did you see Eugene Robinson's column today?  Kat45   Sep-03-10 08:29 PM   #98 
  - Thanks for the link. I'll go read that. I heard a reference to it  MineralMan   Sep-04-10 08:44 AM   #111 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-03-10 08:40 PM   #100 
  - insulting folks who have legitimate grievances will probably have the opposite effect of uniting  ShamelessHussy   Sep-03-10 09:12 PM   #105 
  - That's pretty much my take on it to..  Fumesucker   Sep-03-10 09:16 PM   #107 
  - I am thinking your actions are not helping to unite people  NJmaverick   Sep-04-10 08:48 AM   #113 
     - I am thinking your actions aren't helping to unite people either..  Fumesucker   Sep-05-10 05:31 AM   #137 
  - Attacking folks for making a point, by feigning insult doesn't work either  NJmaverick   Sep-04-10 08:47 AM   #112 
  - Well, as I said in the post, I'm going for getting Democrats  MineralMan   Sep-04-10 10:49 AM   #114 
     - Insulting, and belittling folks you are trying to attract, isn't a winning strategy  ShamelessHussy   Sep-04-10 12:14 PM   #127 
  - Very interesting. KnR. Took quite awhile to read through this long thread, but well worth it  Hekate   Sep-03-10 09:13 PM   #106 
  - That's great that you're getting your personal politics in order.  coti   Sep-04-10 04:22 AM   #109 
     - Have we met?  Hekate   Sep-04-10 07:12 AM   #110 
  - Too late to rec, but at least I can give you a kick!  hedgehog   Sep-04-10 11:27 AM   #117 
  - Thanks! Recs and Unrecs don't matter, anyhow.  MineralMan   Sep-04-10 11:36 AM   #119 
  - Why is the mean and petty namecalling stuff always a part of the  Bluenorthwest   Sep-04-10 11:44 AM   #121 
  - They keep doing  pintobean   Sep-04-10 11:56 AM   #123 
  - I'm just an optimist, I guess.  MineralMan   Sep-04-10 11:59 AM   #125 
  - You know, I never have voted for a Republican. I can't imagine  MineralMan   Sep-04-10 11:57 AM   #124 
  - Your post was a major turn off  Bluenorthwest   Sep-04-10 12:05 PM   #126 
     - Well, a number of people apparently disagree with your  MineralMan   Sep-04-10 12:25 PM   #128 
  - Oddly enough the only "name calling I could find was  NJmaverick   Sep-04-10 01:32 PM   #131 
  - And in contrast, you, of course, are the most sensible of Democrats!  katandmoon   Sep-04-10 07:53 PM   #135 
  - Dissatisfaction is not spite. nt  LWolf   Sep-04-10 07:57 PM   #136 
  - Kicko  NoPasaran   Sep-05-10 08:15 AM   #139 
  - Kick  Scurrilous   Sep-05-10 07:09 PM   #141 

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