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Fri Sep-03-10 10:23 AM
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| -The Role of Spite and Magical Thinking in Elections |
MineralMan |
Sep-03-10 09:55 AM |
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No spite = Democratic might |
flamingdem |
Sep-03-10 10:01 AM |
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Vote YES on MinMan advice!!! |
kctim |
Sep-03-10 10:09 AM |
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Seconded. nt |
quiet.american |
Sep-03-10 10:20 AM |
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K&R |
JTFrog |
Sep-03-10 10:10 AM |
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K & R! |
NJmaverick |
Sep-03-10 10:14 AM |
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Thanks for the kicks! |
MineralMan |
Sep-03-10 10:14 AM |
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EXCELLENT post! Thank you. |
BrklynLiberal |
Sep-03-10 10:21 AM |
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K&R |
LongTomH |
Sep-03-10 10:23 AM |
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Fired up! Ready to go! |
JNelson6563 |
Sep-03-10 10:24 AM |
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If we just accept what we are given, without demanding more |
Pab Sungenis |
Sep-03-10 10:35 AM |
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Who said anything about not demanding more? This is not about |
MineralMan |
Sep-03-10 11:44 AM |
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But until some of the DINOs start dying off |
Pab Sungenis |
Sep-03-10 01:27 PM |
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One of the problems with that is the regionality of |
MineralMan |
Sep-03-10 02:38 PM |
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Maybe give us a little more than lip service? |
Pab Sungenis |
Sep-03-10 02:48 PM |
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Well, you can certainly visit her campaign web site. She has |
MineralMan |
Sep-03-10 04:01 PM |
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phasma ex machina |
Sep-03-10 03:57 PM |
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K & R! n/t |
Political Tiger |
Sep-03-10 10:43 AM |
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What a post! The truth is a welcome relief from the BS. |
jaxx |
Sep-03-10 11:03 AM |
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K & R |
mzteris |
Sep-03-10 11:04 AM |
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Some of it is certainly spite. |
pintobean |
Sep-03-10 11:06 AM |
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The principle is that Democrats advance progress. Republicans |
MineralMan |
Sep-03-10 11:57 AM |
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spite |
pintobean |
Sep-03-10 01:03 PM |
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I'm not talking about DUers specifically. |
MineralMan |
Sep-03-10 01:20 PM |
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The "vote for rather than against" is illogical in our system of elections and govt. |
DevonRex |
Sep-03-10 01:42 PM |
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Read Mark Ames' |
Davis_X_Machina |
Sep-03-10 11:09 AM |
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Thanks for the link. I hadn't seen that. |
MineralMan |
Sep-03-10 11:57 AM |
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Point made. |
HughMoran |
Sep-03-10 11:17 AM |
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Yup |
Beetwasher |
Sep-03-10 11:54 AM |
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Uh. Who gives a fuck about Ralph Nader? I haven't seen one DUer tell anyone to vote for Nader. |
readmoreoften |
Sep-03-10 11:58 AM |
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Nader is just an example, you see. You may have not read |
MineralMan |
Sep-03-10 12:37 PM |
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That's a good description of Nader, a bogeyman. He sure scares me. |
Kahuna |
Sep-03-10 01:02 PM |
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K & R |
Scurrilous |
Sep-03-10 12:01 PM |
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K&U |
inna |
Sep-04-10 12:54 PM |
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Why do you think beating up on Democrats is a good idea? It's pretty spiteful, actually. |
EFerrari |
Sep-03-10 12:05 PM |
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Democrats vote for Democrats. That's how they get their name. |
MineralMan |
Sep-03-10 12:36 PM |
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You certainly are beating up on Democrats. It's divisive, not to mention, stupid. |
EFerrari |
Sep-04-10 03:00 PM |
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First clue that a person is NOT a Democrat is that he/she doesn't vote for Democrats. |
DevonRex |
Sep-03-10 01:22 PM |
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That addresses his straw man but not my question. Even simpler. |
EFerrari |
Sep-04-10 02:59 PM |
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no kidding. |
inna |
Sep-04-10 12:55 PM |
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Very well said. |
DevonRex |
Sep-03-10 12:20 PM |
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+1 |
suzie |
Sep-03-10 12:43 PM |
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I sure hope they are. We need every vote in November. |
MineralMan |
Sep-03-10 01:21 PM |
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On a good note, here in my state the independents are lining up strongly |
DevonRex |
Sep-03-10 01:25 PM |
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You should look at this from the Political Science POV |
nadinbrzezinski |
Sep-03-10 01:50 PM |
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In my opinion, Political Science is neither Political or Scientific. |
MineralMan |
Sep-03-10 02:25 PM |
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I am not making that mistake |
nadinbrzezinski |
Sep-03-10 02:41 PM |
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Take one for the team. |
BlackHoleSon |
Sep-03-10 03:56 PM |
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Bingo and welcome to DU |
nadinbrzezinski |
Sep-03-10 08:41 PM |
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Thank you!!! You said it way better than I ever could n/t |
pipi_k |
Sep-03-10 01:56 PM |
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That's why the "see why we voted for Nader?" thread was a complete idiotic joke |
scheming daemons |
Sep-03-10 02:10 PM |
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Sep-03-10 02:18 PM |
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No. Actually, I'm calling for people to pull in the same direction. |
MineralMan |
Sep-03-10 02:27 PM |
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No you're not you're lecturing once again and berating as you usually do. |
Raineyb |
Sep-03-10 02:45 PM |
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My dear Raineyb, |
MineralMan |
Sep-03-10 02:48 PM |
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Sep-03-10 02:52 PM |
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I'm afraid I don't understand. Here you are, freely posting in |
MineralMan |
Sep-03-10 03:11 PM |
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You don't understand? Are you playing coy? Two of my messages on this thread have been |
Raineyb |
Sep-04-10 11:26 AM |
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I saw that they had been deleted. I suppose they broke some |
MineralMan |
Sep-04-10 11:34 AM |
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Your comments suggest you don't plan on voting for Democrats |
NJmaverick |
Sep-03-10 04:00 PM |
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If you think that then I would suggest brushing up on your reading comprehension skills. |
Raineyb |
Sep-04-10 11:25 AM |
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Too True ..N/T |
h8okra |
Sep-03-10 02:26 PM |
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Wonderful post! |
gulliver |
Sep-03-10 02:48 PM |
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K&R |
Kat45 |
Sep-03-10 03:45 PM |
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very well stated! kr nt |
ecstatic |
Sep-03-10 03:49 PM |
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Gee, first we were "Fucking Retarded", then "Are On Drugs", and now we are "Spiteful". |
Odin2005 |
Sep-03-10 03:51 PM |
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In my humble opinion if you are not voting Dem in November |
NJmaverick |
Sep-03-10 03:59 PM |
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+1 Cynicism is not the answer. nt |
phasma ex machina |
Sep-03-10 04:03 PM |
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I will not vote for "Dems" that vote like Pukes. |
Odin2005 |
Sep-03-10 04:14 PM |
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Ironic use of the word "real" as in real politicians have to deal with real politics |
NJmaverick |
Sep-03-10 04:16 PM |
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Voting for REAL Democrats™ is very good. |
MineralMan |
Sep-03-10 04:19 PM |
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Alvin Greene |
pintobean |
Sep-03-10 07:25 PM |
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LOL! |
MineralMan |
Sep-03-10 08:07 PM |
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Only a spiteful Democrat would leave that one blank. |
pintobean |
Sep-03-10 08:38 PM |
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That one's sort of a special case, isn't it? I'll never quite understand |
MineralMan |
Sep-04-10 11:53 AM |
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Did I use those other two terms you placed in quotation marks? |
MineralMan |
Sep-03-10 04:00 PM |
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It's called a pattern of namecalling from those who want us Progressive to shut up. |
Odin2005 |
Sep-03-10 04:12 PM |
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Well, I'd certainly not tell you to shut up. So, I'm not really sure |
MineralMan |
Sep-03-10 04:16 PM |
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Thank you for your well-stated thoughts. |
The Velveteen Ocelot |
Sep-03-10 03:57 PM |
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Thanks for your feedback. And thanks for supporting |
MineralMan |
Sep-03-10 04:03 PM |
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I will always support Democrats. |
The Velveteen Ocelot |
Sep-03-10 04:17 PM |
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I agree completely. Defeating Michele Bachmann is a high |
MineralMan |
Sep-03-10 04:38 PM |
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Because it's "spiteful" unless you vote for "my" guy. Check. |
Bonobo |
Sep-03-10 04:06 PM |
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Unrec for yet another attempt to absolve politicians from all responsibility.. |
Fumesucker |
Sep-03-10 04:07 PM |
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You must have mixed up posts, because there was nothing in this OP |
NJmaverick |
Sep-03-10 04:15 PM |
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Wow! Did I do that? I don't remember absolving anyone of |
MineralMan |
Sep-03-10 04:27 PM |
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You blame it all on anyone who doesn't blindly vote for Democratic candidates.. |
Fumesucker |
Sep-03-10 04:59 PM |
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I guess I'm lucky. I get to vote for Al Franken and Betty McCollum. |
MineralMan |
Sep-03-10 07:09 PM |
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I don't like your chiding manner.. |
Fumesucker |
Sep-03-10 07:45 PM |
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Quite frankly, I'm not concerned whether you like my manner or |
MineralMan |
Sep-03-10 08:02 PM |
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"And I don't live in Minnesota, lucky you." |
MineralMan |
Sep-03-10 08:08 PM |
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As I said, you have no idea of my situation in life.. |
Fumesucker |
Sep-03-10 08:21 PM |
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You're right. I don't have any idea. How would I? |
MineralMan |
Sep-04-10 11:42 AM |
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Why then would you give advice that you have no way of knowing whether or not I can follow? |
Fumesucker |
Sep-05-10 05:32 AM |
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no one could blame you |
ShamelessHussy |
Sep-03-10 10:25 PM |
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+1 nt |
Electric Monk |
Sep-03-10 09:10 PM |
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I've voted the lesser of two evils for 35 years and the elite finally took every last cent I had |
ipaint |
Sep-03-10 04:17 PM |
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Way to toss the Muslims and many other minorities under the bus |
NJmaverick |
Sep-03-10 04:24 PM |
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Things can get much worse for you, as you will see if today's Republicans take power. |
BzaDem |
Sep-03-10 04:25 PM |
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Sorry the empty threats, smears and scare tactics don't work. |
ipaint |
Sep-03-10 04:41 PM |
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Twisted |
HughMoran |
Sep-03-10 06:53 PM |
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Yes, I used to think that too but after 35 years |
ipaint |
Sep-03-10 09:01 PM |
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Have a pleasant life |
HughMoran |
Sep-03-10 09:06 PM |
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What's "twisted" is your despicable way of constantly attacking people. |
inna |
Sep-04-10 02:12 PM |
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... |
The Velveteen Ocelot |
Sep-03-10 05:20 PM |
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Yup, I'm definitely voting |
rusty fender |
Sep-05-10 10:45 AM |
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Naderites are idgits |
jpak |
Sep-03-10 04:19 PM |
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This post is not about Nader. I merely used him as an example |
MineralMan |
Sep-03-10 04:29 PM |
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You don't get it- and probably never will |
depakid |
Sep-03-10 07:34 PM |
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Do I lose? Really? |
MineralMan |
Sep-03-10 07:41 PM |
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Actually, I worked for Jeff Merkley in 2008 |
depakid |
Sep-03-10 08:07 PM |
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I'm not "fucked" at all. |
MineralMan |
Sep-03-10 08:14 PM |
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Rec'd! This is great |
Number23 |
Sep-03-10 07:43 PM |
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Thanks very much for your support. Every single person makes |
MineralMan |
Sep-03-10 07:45 PM |
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Another attack another day. |
Warren Stupidity |
Sep-03-10 07:50 PM |
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Are they helping? I don't know. I post what I want to post. |
MineralMan |
Sep-03-10 08:04 PM |
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My next vote is magical, indeed. |
Forkboy |
Sep-03-10 08:26 PM |
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Did you see Eugene Robinson's column today? |
Kat45 |
Sep-03-10 08:29 PM |
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Thanks for the link. I'll go read that. I heard a reference to it |
MineralMan |
Sep-04-10 08:44 AM |
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Sep-03-10 08:40 PM |
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insulting folks who have legitimate grievances will probably have the opposite effect of uniting |
ShamelessHussy |
Sep-03-10 09:12 PM |
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That's pretty much my take on it to.. |
Fumesucker |
Sep-03-10 09:16 PM |
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I am thinking your actions are not helping to unite people |
NJmaverick |
Sep-04-10 08:48 AM |
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I am thinking your actions aren't helping to unite people either.. |
Fumesucker |
Sep-05-10 05:31 AM |
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Attacking folks for making a point, by feigning insult doesn't work either |
NJmaverick |
Sep-04-10 08:47 AM |
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Well, as I said in the post, I'm going for getting Democrats |
MineralMan |
Sep-04-10 10:49 AM |
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Insulting, and belittling folks you are trying to attract, isn't a winning strategy |
ShamelessHussy |
Sep-04-10 12:14 PM |
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Very interesting. KnR. Took quite awhile to read through this long thread, but well worth it |
Hekate |
Sep-03-10 09:13 PM |
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That's great that you're getting your personal politics in order. |
coti |
Sep-04-10 04:22 AM |
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Have we met? |
Hekate |
Sep-04-10 07:12 AM |
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Too late to rec, but at least I can give you a kick! |
hedgehog |
Sep-04-10 11:27 AM |
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Thanks! Recs and Unrecs don't matter, anyhow. |
MineralMan |
Sep-04-10 11:36 AM |
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Why is the mean and petty namecalling stuff always a part of the |
Bluenorthwest |
Sep-04-10 11:44 AM |
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They keep doing |
pintobean |
Sep-04-10 11:56 AM |
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I'm just an optimist, I guess. |
MineralMan |
Sep-04-10 11:59 AM |
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You know, I never have voted for a Republican. I can't imagine |
MineralMan |
Sep-04-10 11:57 AM |
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Your post was a major turn off |
Bluenorthwest |
Sep-04-10 12:05 PM |
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Well, a number of people apparently disagree with your |
MineralMan |
Sep-04-10 12:25 PM |
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Oddly enough the only "name calling I could find was |
NJmaverick |
Sep-04-10 01:32 PM |
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And in contrast, you, of course, are the most sensible of Democrats! |
katandmoon |
Sep-04-10 07:53 PM |
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Dissatisfaction is not spite. nt |
LWolf |
Sep-04-10 07:57 PM |
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Kicko |
NoPasaran |
Sep-05-10 08:15 AM |
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Kick |
Scurrilous |
Sep-05-10 07:09 PM |
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