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TheMuse Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 10:12 PM
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10. So I read it, and maybe I am dense
But what I got out of it is that there are now priorities in internet traffic, from real time voice, to email, etc., etc.

But what Verizon, Google, and now AT&T are advocating is individual sites gaining a "high-speed lane" on the internet by paying to have their content provided on said lane, while the rest of the internet, namely those without bundles of corporate money, would be relegated to the slow lane. Nobody has said anything about being like cable tv, where you would have to pay verizon in order to be served to their end users. But that would be the next step.

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  -AT&T Says Net Rules MUST Allow 'Paid Prioritization' snot  Aug-31-10 09:46 PM   #0 
  - make internet a public utlitity nt  msongs   Aug-31-10 09:48 PM   #1 
  - YES!!! No one should own the only public square we've got left.  snot   Aug-31-10 09:50 PM   #2 
     - It's built and maintained by private companies.  boppers   Aug-31-10 09:58 PM   #6 
        - It was built by the government and then taken over by private companies n/t  eridani   Aug-31-10 10:08 PM   #8 
           - Are you referring to ARPANET?  boppers   Aug-31-10 10:13 PM   #11 
              - Yes. And don't forget that the TCP-IP protocol was established by the government n/t  eridani   Aug-31-10 10:52 PM   #18 
                 - That's a bit simplified.  boppers   Aug-31-10 11:30 PM   #22 
                    - OK, it was  eridani   Aug-31-10 11:57 PM   #24 
  - That's how it's been working so far.  boppers   Aug-31-10 09:52 PM   #3 
  - When carriers gain the ability to speed up or slow down certain sites  TheMuse   Aug-31-10 09:53 PM   #4 
  - Did you read the article?  boppers   Aug-31-10 10:04 PM   #7 
  - So I read it, and maybe I am dense  TheMuse   Aug-31-10 10:12 PM   #10 
     - The priorities have been there all along, as have the "high speed" lanes.  boppers   Aug-31-10 10:34 PM   #14 
        - This has nothing to do with buying a T-1 to get more bandwidth.  ThomCat   Aug-31-10 10:54 PM   #19 
           - DNS does not work that way. Neither does TCP/IP. Nor does *cough* NANOG.  boppers   Aug-31-10 11:52 PM   #23 
  - +1 nt  woo me with science   Sep-01-10 12:13 AM   #28 
  - Are they trying to create a separate legal entity between wireless and internet?  izzybeans   Aug-31-10 09:54 PM   #5 
  - They're trying to maintain the internet as it was designed and built.  boppers   Aug-31-10 10:09 PM   #9 
  - AT&T finds new ways to blow!  glitch   Aug-31-10 10:24 PM   #12 
  - If Net Neutrality "dies", so does the progressive movement.  AdHocSolver   Aug-31-10 10:27 PM   #13 
  - +1000 nt  laughingliberal   Aug-31-10 10:36 PM   #15 
  - How did it manage to live so far, then?  boppers   Aug-31-10 10:41 PM   #16 
     - You clearly don't understand the difference between  ThomCat   Aug-31-10 11:17 PM   #21 
        - You might be a bit surprised at what I know. :)  boppers   Sep-01-10 12:26 AM   #29 
  - AT&T is from Bizzarro World, obviously, because the fundamental principles  KakistocracyHater   Aug-31-10 10:43 PM   #17 
  - So why is this not a problem in other counties?  Iterate   Aug-31-10 11:16 PM   #20 
  - Perhaps you ought to direct that question to boppers  depakid   Sep-01-10 12:03 AM   #25 
  - One word: Infrastructure.  boppers   Sep-01-10 12:42 AM   #30 
     - I've heard the excuses, I'm just not buying it.  Iterate   Sep-01-10 05:43 AM   #32 
        - GREAT post!  boppers   Sep-02-10 12:45 AM   #38 
  - There is a website that seems pretty good at discussing the issues for users.  AdHocSolver   Sep-01-10 12:04 AM   #26 
  - Thank you. Time for the graphic again:  woo me with science   Sep-01-10 12:12 AM   #27 
     - Does the internet already look like that?  boppers   Sep-01-10 12:47 AM   #31 
        - Do they?  woo me with science   Sep-01-10 06:26 AM   #34 
           - Per-site filtering, traffic prioritization, tiered access, per user bandwidth caps...  boppers   Sep-02-10 12:33 AM   #37 
  - Yes, first the Supreme Court allows corporate free speech...  Scuba   Sep-01-10 06:01 AM   #33 
  - Pls do not rely on boppers as your sole source re- the tech aspects of this.  snot   Sep-01-10 12:33 PM   #35 
     - Al Franken is working to preserve net neutrality; here's how you can help:  snot   Sep-01-10 12:38 PM   #36 

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