Arkana
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Sun Aug-29-10 10:20 AM
Response to Reply #11 |
| 18. And there you go putting words in Obama's mouth. |
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You want so desperately to believe that Obama and Dean are of like mind that you are making the President say something he never said.
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| -Principles or Pragmatism? Who's Doing What? |
MineralMan |
Aug-29-10 09:27 AM |
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K&R |
NJmaverick |
Aug-29-10 09:34 AM |
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I will not comment on the wisdom of them building it at that location. |
VMI Dem |
Aug-29-10 09:37 AM |
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Indeed. It actually could be a bad idea to build it there, |
MineralMan |
Aug-29-10 09:39 AM |
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I will not comment on Dr. Deans approach. He had the right to say what he did. |
VMI Dem |
Aug-29-10 09:40 AM |
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Of course he did. And his supporters have the right to praise |
MineralMan |
Aug-29-10 09:48 AM |
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Interesting observation |
HughMoran |
Aug-29-10 09:37 AM |
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That may demonstrate that everyone's pragmatic when it |
MineralMan |
Aug-29-10 09:47 AM |
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I agree completely |
HughMoran |
Aug-29-10 12:03 PM |
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k an r for that comment |
DonCoquixote |
Aug-29-10 10:36 AM |
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I have not defended it and I have seen many others who are |
sabrina 1 |
Aug-29-10 03:56 PM |
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Yes, Dean was wrong. |
HughMoran |
Aug-29-10 08:25 PM |
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He did "make bones" about it though-- |
OrwellwasRight |
Aug-29-10 09:44 AM |
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Of course he did...and most people know that. |
VMI Dem |
Aug-29-10 09:48 AM |
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He is a strong advocate of the Constitutional right for people |
MineralMan |
Aug-29-10 09:56 AM |
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He shouldn't be advocating anything except what is Constitutionally required. |
Arkana |
Aug-29-10 10:19 AM |
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how could ne NOT comment? |
DonCoquixote |
Aug-29-10 10:38 AM |
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He could easily have kept silent as he has done on many other issues. |
OrwellwasRight |
Aug-29-10 10:43 AM |
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Every politician must know when to keep silent, |
MineralMan |
Aug-29-10 10:47 AM |
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As President, his job is to use his position to improve the country. |
OrwellwasRight |
Aug-29-10 12:03 PM |
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What principles? In regards to Obama's position, you are presenting facts not in evidence. |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-29-10 09:48 AM |
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"I will not comment on the wisdom". Anyone knows what that means. |
VMI Dem |
Aug-29-10 09:49 AM |
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And there you go putting words in Obama's mouth. |
Arkana |
Aug-29-10 10:20 AM |
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It is not for the President to comment on the wisdom of |
MineralMan |
Aug-29-10 09:53 AM |
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Dean affirmed the right, also. So, on that count, they both stand on principle... |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-29-10 09:56 AM |
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And the dreidel spins and spins. |
MineralMan |
Aug-29-10 09:59 AM |
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Obama stopped where he should have stopped--at standing firm |
Arkana |
Aug-29-10 10:21 AM |
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Exactly. |
MineralMan |
Aug-29-10 10:48 AM |
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If you state the obvious, are you actually doing anything? nt |
EFerrari |
Aug-29-10 12:22 PM |
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Well, given the criticism from the right of what he said, I'd say that he was |
MineralMan |
Aug-29-10 12:26 PM |
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"It's a local issue" is exactly the position politicians took to stay out of |
EFerrari |
Aug-29-10 12:32 PM |
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And that is why it became a federal issue. Because the issue |
MineralMan |
Aug-29-10 12:38 PM |
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That doesn't even make sense. |
EFerrari |
Aug-30-10 02:21 AM |
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Yes, you're stating the obvious and showing that you have an actual regard for the First Amendment |
Arkana |
Aug-29-10 04:10 PM |
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Exactly. And Dean was acting on ethics, not pragmatism anyway. |
EFerrari |
Aug-29-10 12:20 PM |
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I believe that Dr. Dean will in the future look back and regret his words on this subject |
grantcart |
Aug-29-10 10:14 AM |
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I believe you are right. |
MineralMan |
Aug-29-10 10:20 AM |
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very astute observation... |
Peacetrain |
Aug-29-10 10:41 AM |
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Thanks very much. |
MineralMan |
Aug-29-10 10:43 AM |
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Well, there are actual principled people like me... |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Aug-29-10 10:51 AM |
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A lot? I'm not sure what that means, in terms of DU. |
MineralMan |
Aug-29-10 10:59 AM |
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BTW, I'm not criticizing Dr. Dean in this post. He's a fine man |
MineralMan |
Aug-29-10 11:55 AM |
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Principles and pragmatism are not mutually exclusive. nt |
VioletLake |
Aug-29-10 12:32 PM |
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True. They never have been...at least not in our political |
MineralMan |
Aug-29-10 12:39 PM |
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Then what's the point of your topic? |
VioletLake |
Aug-29-10 12:54 PM |
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My point is that some people criticize President Obama, but praise |
MineralMan |
Aug-29-10 01:10 PM |
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Pragmatic and principled (or at least appear to be). |
VioletLake |
Aug-29-10 01:49 PM |
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Right, and they never should be. |
Arkana |
Aug-29-10 04:12 PM |
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I'm so glad that he finally gives a crap about our rights |
txlibdem |
Aug-29-10 01:15 PM |
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You call 99 weeks of unemployment benefits nothing? Really?.. |
Kahuna |
Aug-29-10 03:50 PM |
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Propping up the banks helped nobody but the banks |
txlibdem |
Aug-29-10 06:16 PM |
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Oh yeah, Dean is pragmatic.. |
Cha |
Aug-29-10 01:18 PM |
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Dr Dean is a good Democratic Party soldier. |
bvar22 |
Aug-29-10 01:52 PM |
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Indeed. Seems it's okay to ignore THOSE people THEIR |
Kahuna |
Aug-29-10 03:45 PM |
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