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| -The "Civility" section of DU's Rules. Read it, if you haven't...and if you have, read it again. |
Amerigo Vespucci |
Aug-29-10 02:21 AM |
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Who are you calling out? |
jobycom |
Aug-29-10 02:23 AM |
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Even very mild personal attacks are forbidden. |
HysteryDiagnosis |
Aug-29-10 05:17 AM |
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Thank you, my dear Amerigo Vespucci! |
CaliforniaPeggy |
Aug-29-10 02:24 AM |
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I love the fact that someone has already unrecommended it... |
Amerigo Vespucci |
Aug-29-10 02:30 AM |
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Just rec'd it to 15 |
Turborama |
Aug-29-10 05:47 AM |
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Rec. #35 |
emilyg |
Aug-29-10 12:53 PM |
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There are many people on DU who think personal attacks are a legitimate form of discourse |
aikoaiko |
Aug-29-10 12:38 PM |
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And there have been times where I've taken the bait and responded in a similar fashion |
Amerigo Vespucci |
Aug-29-10 01:13 PM |
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Agreed. When there're so many CONs out there worthy of being attacked, |
mistertrickster |
Aug-29-10 07:10 PM |
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but DU has never been that way |
hfojvt |
Aug-30-10 02:27 AM |
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Actually you came when the damage had been done |
JNelson6563 |
Aug-30-10 08:12 AM |
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I'm curious... |
ThomasQED |
Aug-30-10 08:01 PM |
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I, too, came to DU in the fall of 2004...it was a different place than it is today. |
CTyankee |
Aug-31-10 08:26 AM |
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Civility works |
MrScorpio |
Aug-29-10 02:44 AM |
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Good Post! |
Vinnie From Indy |
Aug-29-10 02:47 AM |
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Well said, AV! |
SeattleGirl |
Aug-29-10 02:47 AM |
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From memory |
dipsydoodle |
Aug-29-10 02:49 AM |
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Aug-29-10 02:53 AM |
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Ha! Good one, Nance! |
SeattleGirl |
Aug-29-10 02:56 AM |
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Right back at ya ... |
NanceGreggs |
Aug-29-10 02:58 AM |
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..... |
SeattleGirl |
Aug-29-10 02:59 AM |
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Musta been good |
HughMoran |
Aug-29-10 08:41 PM |
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What did it say?? I missed it! |
Number23 |
Aug-29-10 07:48 PM |
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Don't tase me, Bro! |
pinboy3niner |
Aug-29-10 03:08 AM |
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Aug-29-10 03:21 AM |
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They can be copied and pasted any time the situation calls for it. |
Amerigo Vespucci |
Aug-29-10 03:24 AM |
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Totally agreed. They do need to be enforced without exception. n/t |
Violet_Crumble |
Aug-29-10 06:14 AM |
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Your mother was a hamster |
Norrin Radd |
Aug-29-10 04:15 AM |
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we are an autonomous collective |
Swamp Rat |
Aug-29-10 05:53 AM |
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OFF-TOPIC: Devo just released their first album in 20 years. |
Vickers |
Aug-29-10 03:21 PM |
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Synchronicity. Had just bought the latest Keyboard mag with Devo on |
Norrin Radd |
Aug-29-10 05:51 PM |
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SHUT YOUR FESTERING GOB, YOU TIT! |
Fumesucker |
Aug-29-10 07:34 AM |
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Aww. Do We Have To? |
Anakin Skywalker |
Aug-29-10 05:49 AM |
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Recommended. nt |
BootinUp |
Aug-29-10 06:04 AM |
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Always Been The Rule Here... |
KharmaTrain |
Aug-29-10 06:11 AM |
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Thank you AV. There are some who have been here a very long time that would benefit from rereading |
corkhead |
Aug-29-10 06:24 AM |
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Yeah, and... |
RC |
Aug-29-10 06:36 AM |
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Yeah, and... |
Amerigo Vespucci |
Aug-29-10 09:48 AM |
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Well of course, no one appointed the OP "Site Cop" |
MrScorpio |
Aug-29-10 12:12 PM |
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i fahrt i your general direction! |
KG |
Aug-29-10 07:28 AM |
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There seem to be many exceptions to that rule, actually. |
Bluenorthwest |
Aug-29-10 10:25 AM |
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True, and the best solution for that is usually the ignore list. |
Amerigo Vespucci |
Aug-29-10 11:13 AM |
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Aug-29-10 11:15 AM |
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wait... you just did a broad brush post on people that whine, lol. really |
seabeyond |
Aug-29-10 11:15 AM |
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That broad brush post was about whining wrapped around personal attacks |
Amerigo Vespucci |
Aug-29-10 12:35 PM |
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probably makes more sense to me ..... i hear ya |
seabeyond |
Aug-29-10 12:48 PM |
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K&R |
varelse |
Aug-29-10 01:15 PM |
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I neither know nor care whether the OP was a "callout" |
caraher |
Aug-29-10 01:18 PM |
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It wasn't a callout. I can tell you exactly what it was (and is). |
Amerigo Vespucci |
Aug-29-10 01:26 PM |
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Rules? |
chervilant |
Aug-29-10 02:47 PM |
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I hear you... |
Amerigo Vespucci |
Aug-29-10 02:58 PM |
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I have been greatly disturbed by |
Axle_techie |
Aug-30-10 01:19 AM |
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That won't change anytime soon. |
Common Sense Party |
Aug-30-10 01:36 AM |
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It seems so |
Axle_techie |
Aug-30-10 01:41 AM |
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The Religion Forum should be re-named the Anti-Religion Forum |
Common Sense Party |
Aug-30-10 01:51 AM |
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Ha, so true. |
Axle_techie |
Aug-30-10 01:57 AM |
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I've been disturbed by some of the anti-Muslim comments I've seen |
Turborama |
Aug-30-10 02:23 AM |
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Ya know |
kimi |
Aug-30-10 02:41 AM |
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There are so many other things that are "off limits"... |
Amerigo Vespucci |
Aug-30-10 05:03 PM |
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The rules serve and important purpose |
MrScorpio |
Aug-30-10 05:57 PM |
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One thing we have going for ourselves is our age! |
CTyankee |
Aug-31-10 08:43 AM |
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Having a tough day? |
LaurenG |
Aug-29-10 02:01 PM |
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What an odd question. |
SeattleGirl |
Aug-29-10 02:18 PM |
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Well I thought it was a rather intuitive question |
LaurenG |
Aug-29-10 03:33 PM |
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Something happens to me everyday, |
POAS |
Aug-29-10 05:23 PM |
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And |
LaurenG |
Aug-29-10 05:34 PM |
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Perhaps the poster |
POAS |
Aug-29-10 08:25 PM |
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Why are you harrassing me? |
LaurenG |
Aug-30-10 04:55 AM |
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Having a bad day? |
POAS |
Aug-30-10 03:56 PM |
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Lol |
LaurenG |
Aug-30-10 05:16 PM |
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Yeah! Let's hear more about rules! |
donco6 |
Aug-29-10 02:50 PM |
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+1 |
proud2BlibKansan |
Aug-29-10 02:57 PM |
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Could you please clarify "+1?" |
Amerigo Vespucci |
Aug-29-10 03:03 PM |
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I agree with the post I replied to and instead of typing 'I agree' I typed '+1' |
proud2BlibKansan |
Aug-29-10 03:13 PM |
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So my question is do we "take care of ourselves?" |
Amerigo Vespucci |
Aug-29-10 03:18 PM |
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I knew something must have happened. |
LaurenG |
Aug-29-10 03:42 PM |
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Aug-29-10 03:44 PM |
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"taking care of ourselves" in the presence of bullies often doesn't work, and the |
bobbolink |
Aug-29-10 08:41 PM |
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Sometimes that is the smartest thing to do |
proud2BlibKansan |
Aug-29-10 09:49 PM |
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No, it doesn't. Not only do bullies think they "won" in that situation, which encourages them to |
bobbolink |
Aug-29-10 09:55 PM |
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Again I disagree |
proud2BlibKansan |
Aug-29-10 10:23 PM |
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There seems to me to be a few more choices than swallowing whatever crap they hand out and |
bobbolink |
Aug-30-10 03:48 PM |
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I respect your analysis of DU as a "dead board"...that's your right. |
Amerigo Vespucci |
Aug-29-10 03:01 PM |
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OK here's a suggestion. |
donco6 |
Aug-29-10 04:01 PM |
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It's been my observation... |
MrScorpio |
Aug-29-10 05:41 PM |
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I would say that's a pretty accurate observation. |
bobbolink |
Aug-29-10 08:44 PM |
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I disagree |
proud2BlibKansan |
Aug-29-10 09:47 PM |
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Then you are free to ignore these threads, aren't you? |
bobbolink |
Aug-29-10 09:53 PM |
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They can read them, and I can comment on them. |
donco6 |
Aug-29-10 09:54 PM |
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Commenting is one thing. Demanding they not be posted is entirely different. |
bobbolink |
Aug-29-10 09:58 PM |
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See, you commented, I commented, everyone's happy. |
donco6 |
Aug-29-10 10:09 PM |
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. |
bobbolink |
Aug-29-10 10:10 PM |
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Yes I can choose to ignore them and usually I do |
proud2BlibKansan |
Aug-29-10 10:20 PM |
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I respectfully disagree.... |
Techn0Girl |
Aug-30-10 01:59 AM |
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When I break one, please do let me know immediately. n/t |
donco6 |
Aug-29-10 09:57 PM |
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Of course... |
MrScorpio |
Aug-29-10 10:01 PM |
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Please explain why it's "off-putting." |
Amerigo Vespucci |
Aug-29-10 05:54 PM |
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I seriously doubt anyone gives a shit. |
donco6 |
Aug-29-10 09:54 PM |
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And I respect your right to not give a shit and to not elaborate |
Amerigo Vespucci |
Aug-30-10 11:34 AM |
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Well the sheer number of recs, plus the spirit of debate shows evidence to the contrary |
MrScorpio |
Aug-30-10 06:02 PM |
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And rules make us even freer! . . . er . . . wait a minnit. n/t |
donco6 |
Aug-30-10 06:37 PM |
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Because they're applied to each an every one of us |
MrScorpio |
Aug-30-10 06:40 PM |
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Agreed |
skepticscott |
Aug-30-10 07:45 AM |
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I don't think DU is dead at all, but quite the contrary |
MrScorpio |
Aug-29-10 05:37 PM |
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Exactly |
skepticscott |
Aug-29-10 08:17 PM |
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"Personal attacks" are my #1 reason for alerting. I can put up with quite |
Vickers |
Aug-29-10 02:59 PM |
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That's the entire intention behind this post. |
Amerigo Vespucci |
Aug-29-10 03:05 PM |
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Thank you for alerting on incivility. |
bobbolink |
Aug-29-10 08:45 PM |
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I'll give you something to alert on! |
Renew Deal |
Aug-29-10 09:58 PM |
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I know you thiink that's very funny. For those of us who have survived physical attacks, it is not. |
bobbolink |
Aug-29-10 10:00 PM |
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Physical attacks from DU? |
Renew Deal |
Aug-29-10 10:05 PM |
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Thank you sooooo much for your ongoing sensitivity. |
bobbolink |
Aug-29-10 10:14 PM |
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It must be nice to be a part of your sheltered little world |
Renew Deal |
Aug-29-10 10:21 PM |
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Hurrah! It's gone! |
bobbolink |
Aug-29-10 10:24 PM |
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Who made you a hall monitor? |
Renew Deal |
Aug-29-10 09:57 PM |
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I just kinda fell into it... |
Vickers |
Aug-29-10 10:23 PM |
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KandR. |
Dystopian |
Aug-29-10 03:08 PM |
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Thanks Dystopian... |
Amerigo Vespucci |
Aug-29-10 03:20 PM |
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I'm a Zaldan, I hate politeness. |
edbermac |
Aug-29-10 03:26 PM |
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There apparently ARE exceptions. I alerted on a poster who was obviously |
Kahuna |
Aug-29-10 05:24 PM |
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I can't explain it |
Amerigo Vespucci |
Aug-29-10 06:04 PM |
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Aug-29-10 10:29 PM |
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Stalking is the worst (nt) |
The Straight Story |
Aug-29-10 05:36 PM |
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Yep. Sometimes there seem to be gang stalking as if it is organized.. |
Kahuna |
Aug-29-10 06:56 PM |
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Exactly. |
Bobbie Jo |
Aug-29-10 07:12 PM |
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Yes, they are well organized. Its like Faux news... you can see the same talking points. |
bobbolink |
Aug-29-10 10:25 PM |
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That's why "not taking the bait" is so important. |
Amerigo Vespucci |
Aug-30-10 11:25 AM |
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A close second would be severe attention whoring. |
JNelson6563 |
Aug-30-10 08:21 AM |
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Whtever that means. |
Kahuna |
Aug-30-10 04:58 PM |
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Deleted message |
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Aug-30-10 06:04 PM |
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Some of us do have a rudimentary knowledge of Dutch, you know |
MrScorpio |
Aug-30-10 06:33 PM |
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That's one of the benefits of the alert system |
Amerigo Vespucci |
Aug-30-10 06:52 PM |
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POOPY-HEAD! |
lightningandsnow |
Aug-29-10 05:49 PM |
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but...but..but................ |
northofdenali |
Aug-29-10 05:59 PM |
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Pity that courteous liars get the nod |
skepticscott |
Aug-29-10 08:19 PM |
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Yes, father. |
Lucian |
Aug-29-10 10:02 PM |
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Surprisingly, I don't have kids |
Amerigo Vespucci |
Aug-30-10 11:20 AM |
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They will never get it. nt |
onehandle |
Aug-29-10 10:25 PM |
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My friend's story about marathon races |
Amerigo Vespucci |
Aug-30-10 11:17 AM |
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im sure whining will help. |
iamthebandfanman |
Aug-30-10 12:21 AM |
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Calling the OP a "whiner" is probably the kind of thing that the OP was talking about .... |
Techn0Girl |
Aug-30-10 02:44 AM |
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"Whining?" Really? |
tkmorris |
Aug-30-10 04:22 AM |
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There's something to be said |
JNelson6563 |
Aug-30-10 09:33 PM |
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Several thoughts on your comments... |
Amerigo Vespucci |
Aug-30-10 11:05 AM |
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There are just some people who will call you names, let's face it. |
CTyankee |
Aug-31-10 08:04 AM |
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There is nothing wrong with reminding people occasionally |
SeattleGirl |
Aug-30-10 06:35 PM |
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Wow, I am surprised at the low level of civility |
Axle_techie |
Aug-30-10 01:21 AM |
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Well, no curse words or |
Confusious |
Aug-30-10 01:52 AM |
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K & R |
democracy1st |
Aug-30-10 02:29 AM |
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A kick and a thank you -- especially for your civil and patient responses. |
Hekate |
Aug-30-10 03:42 AM |
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How can you say something is "untrue" without also saying that it is a "lie" ?? |
uncommon |
Aug-30-10 07:49 AM |
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People sometimes pass on bad information without having checked it |
slackmaster |
Aug-30-10 10:04 AM |
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And there are respectful ways to find out that intent. |
Amerigo Vespucci |
Aug-30-10 10:57 AM |
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I appreciate your efforts. |
AspenRose |
Aug-30-10 09:01 AM |
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We need more truth and less varnish that I can see. We need to cut through the fogs of bullshit |
TheKentuckian |
Aug-30-10 09:12 AM |
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I agree...the truth should never be replaced by "respectful discourse." |
Amerigo Vespucci |
Aug-30-10 10:52 AM |
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All opinions are to be respected and are available for debate... |
MrScorpio |
Aug-30-10 06:16 PM |
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The free exchange of ideas with civility. That was my intent. |
Amerigo Vespucci |
Aug-30-10 07:04 PM |
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Very true |
LaurenG |
Aug-31-10 07:57 AM |
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EXCEPT!!! |
HankyDubs |
Aug-30-10 10:44 AM |
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K & R! |
NJmaverick |
Aug-30-10 11:15 AM |
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Imma just leave this here. |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Aug-30-10 11:24 AM |
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Sorry if you feel I'm Frank Burns, and that this is a Frank Burns post |
Amerigo Vespucci |
Aug-30-10 11:30 AM |
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... |
HiFructosePronSyrup |
Aug-30-10 11:39 AM |
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"..." indeed. |
Amerigo Vespucci |
Aug-30-10 11:42 AM |
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I absolutely agree with your assessment, AV |
MrScorpio |
Aug-30-10 06:06 PM |
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Maybe she thought we all needed a laugh. |
Amerigo Vespucci |
Aug-30-10 06:11 PM |
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Although, your right to your expressed opinion is fully extant |
MrScorpio |
Aug-30-10 06:31 PM |
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Thanks for finding this, AV! |
ThatsMyBarack |
Aug-30-10 11:39 AM |
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Two years ago, I posted one of those "popcorn" smilies.... |
ThatsMyBarack |
Aug-30-10 06:32 PM |
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The mods are rotated regularly, so I would say "that was then, this is now"... |
Amerigo Vespucci |
Aug-30-10 06:54 PM |
#164 |
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Did you try alerting on the post? |
Danger Mouse |
Aug-30-10 09:16 PM |
#167 |
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Oh, goodness, let it go! |
CTyankee |
Aug-31-10 08:10 AM |
#171 |