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25. The home did comply with the condition - this patient has nothing to do with the suit
Although the article isn't clearly written, it sounds as though the nurse sued the home for violating her (the CNAs) rights when it compelled her to follow the racial restriction. The court is ordering the home to stop honoring race-based demands from patients.

Prior to the case, the home believed that patients' desires were paramount, and failed to understand that some of those requests were at odds with the rights of nursing staff. Now they know...

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  -Black nurse leaves white patient lying on floor; patient had requested "No black CNAs" JBoy  Aug-26-10 09:47 AM   #0 
  - I have 0 sympathy for the patient  ixion   Aug-26-10 09:49 AM   #1 
  - The lawsuit was filed by the nurse.  geek tragedy   Aug-26-10 09:51 AM   #2 
  - I agree. Thanks for the clarification, I should have read it more carefully /nt  still_one   Aug-26-10 09:53 AM   #7 
  - my bad...  ixion   Aug-26-10 09:53 AM   #8 
  - Actually the lawsuit is the Nursing Assistant's (not related to this specific incident)  JBoy   Aug-26-10 09:52 AM   #4 
  - my sentiments exactly. nt  northernlights   Aug-26-10 08:10 PM   #146 
  - I tend to agree  Dorian Gray   Aug-27-10 04:55 AM   #213 
  - I am I bad person if I am glad that the bigot had to lay on the floor?  FSogol   Aug-26-10 09:51 AM   #3 
  - No. n/t  Soylent Brice   Aug-26-10 11:06 AM   #55 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-26-10 07:54 PM   #140 
  - Let the executions begin!  Phil The Cat   Aug-27-10 04:53 AM   #211 
     - what if I, in my demented state didn't want anyone wearing a white shirt helping me?  mimitabby   Aug-27-10 09:54 AM   #234 
        - Don't like white shirted people?  Phil The Cat   Aug-27-10 10:23 AM   #240 
  - If you're a bad person, I'm one too.  Lugnut   Aug-27-10 12:43 AM   #200 
  - Not at all wrong to wish that.  MedicalAdmin   Aug-27-10 10:35 AM   #243 
  - I am 0% sympathetic for the patient. The CNA did not ignore the patient, she went  still_one   Aug-26-10 09:52 AM   #5 
  - The nurse is the one making the claim...not the patient (nt)  brendan120678   Aug-26-10 09:55 AM   #15 
     - I messed up thanks /nt  still_one   Aug-26-10 09:58 AM   #17 
  - I'm 0% sympathetic for the patient  NMMNG   Aug-26-10 09:53 AM   #6 
  - My question is WTF the nursing home was thinking?  MedicalAdmin   Aug-27-10 10:40 AM   #245 
  - 0 sympathy for the patient here - her ignorance hurt her, as it should.  uncommon   Aug-26-10 09:54 AM   #9 
  - Jesus Christ. What the hell?  Poll_Blind   Aug-26-10 09:54 AM   #10 
  - That's what the bigot gets. Good. I hope it was really uncomfortable on the cold hard floor too.  Raineyb   Aug-26-10 09:54 AM   #11 
  - The nursing home should not have agreed to a condition they couldn't comply with. n/t  lumberjack_jeff   Aug-26-10 09:54 AM   #12 
  - The nursing home shouldn't have agreed to the condition, period.  Lance_Boyle   Aug-26-10 09:58 AM   #19 
  - I agree with this.  lumberjack_jeff   Aug-26-10 10:02 AM   #23 
     - with certain exceptions  Lance_Boyle   Aug-26-10 10:04 AM   #24 
     - The article did say that gender preferences are ok  Crystal Clarity   Aug-26-10 11:07 AM   #56 
  - The home did comply with the condition - this patient has nothing to do with the suit  petronius   Aug-26-10 10:04 AM   #25 
  - Yes, i don't see how that is allowed under Federal and State law  LostinVA   Aug-26-10 10:07 AM   #28 
     - It isn't. Hence the nursing assistant has a great case for discrimination.  yellowcanine   Aug-26-10 10:22 AM   #36 
        - From the discussion in the article, I can understand how the home thought they  petronius   Aug-26-10 10:36 AM   #47 
        - No way they can be excused that easily. This has been law since 1964.  yellowcanine   Aug-26-10 10:51 AM   #51 
        - I know -- I hope she wins  LostinVA   Aug-26-10 11:08 AM   #58 
           - I think she already did  fishwax   Aug-26-10 01:35 PM   #104 
  - Generally, I suspect that the "condition" is probably better for everybody.  Xithras   Aug-26-10 12:11 PM   #72 
  - god works in mysterious ways. nt  xchrom   Aug-26-10 09:55 AM   #13 
  - Doesn't She :-)  HillWilliam   Aug-26-10 11:10 AM   #59 
  - god created a racist piece of shit so that this CNA  Goblinmonger   Aug-27-10 02:19 PM   #278 
  - She could have been the better person and helped her up.  cbdo2007   Aug-26-10 09:55 AM   #14 
  - Why?  Missy Vixen   Aug-26-10 10:15 AM   #33 
  - Her job is to help the people who live there regardless of their views.  cbdo2007   Aug-26-10 10:29 AM   #42 
     - Not if she's being abused  Missy Vixen   Aug-26-10 10:35 AM   #46 
     - Was the nurse being abused by the patient?  cbdo2007   Aug-26-10 11:08 AM   #57 
        - What would you call institutionally approved racism?  Missy Vixen   Aug-26-10 03:55 PM   #128 
     - She's looking pretty good compared to say...  snooper2   Aug-26-10 11:20 AM   #62 
     - Wow. Just wow.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Aug-26-10 11:59 AM   #70 
     - If she'd tried to help the lady  NMMNG   Aug-26-10 03:56 PM   #129 
  - and she could have been seriously injured in the process, if the patient went ballistic.  niyad   Aug-26-10 10:17 AM   #34 
  - You think the woman is obligated to subject herself to injury to prove some point to  Raineyb   Aug-26-10 10:27 AM   #39 
  - What makes you all think she was "subjecting herself to injury"???  cbdo2007   Aug-26-10 01:24 PM   #100 
     - Nothing says compassion like  Phil The Cat   Aug-26-10 02:33 PM   #116 
     - Because when people flail they can hurt you. Hence her attempting to lift the  Raineyb   Aug-26-10 07:55 PM   #141 
     - Not that simple....  Jeff In Milwaukee   Aug-26-10 09:50 PM   #168 
     - Have you ever tried to lift, transport or otherwise assist a combative person?  NMMNG   Aug-27-10 09:38 AM   #227 
  - "could have been the better person"? -- she *is* the better person  fishwax   Aug-26-10 02:00 PM   #111 
  - 0% sympathy for the patient  KingFlorez   Aug-26-10 09:57 AM   #16 
  - I'm saving most of my outrage for the employer that explicitly condoned discrimination.  Orsino   Aug-26-10 09:58 AM   #18 
  - "prefer" and "demand" seem to be two different concepts  Vinnie From Indy   Aug-26-10 09:58 AM   #20 
  - Archie Bunker was afraid of that transfusion, too...  TreasonousBastard   Aug-26-10 10:00 AM   #21 
  - Patient got exactly what she asked for and then filed suit?  kestrel91316   Aug-26-10 10:02 AM   #22 
  - The CNA filed the suit, not the patient... (nt)  petronius   Aug-26-10 10:05 AM   #26 
  - Patient may have suffered from senile dementia  Mimosa   Aug-26-10 10:06 AM   #27 
  - I beg to differ  Doctor_J   Aug-26-10 10:12 AM   #29 
  - Senile and Alzheimers patients say all sorts of nonsense  Mimosa   Aug-26-10 10:29 AM   #41 
  - I had my MIL living with me for six months before she died...  pipi_k   Aug-26-10 11:01 AM   #54 
  - Wow!  onpatrol98   Aug-26-10 11:33 AM   #63 
  - Nope...you just never know...  pipi_k   Aug-26-10 12:32 PM   #79 
     - Grandmother...  onpatrol98   Aug-26-10 03:45 PM   #126 
        - It does take a special kind of mentality...  pipi_k   Aug-26-10 09:16 PM   #157 
           - Scary as heck!!!  onpatrol98   Aug-27-10 08:33 AM   #219 
              - It really was...  pipi_k   Aug-27-10 10:09 AM   #238 
                 - I'm sure he was in agony!  Phil The Cat   Aug-27-10 11:05 AM   #250 
  - I have seen the same things in some patients.My heart went out to their families  w8liftinglady   Aug-26-10 01:20 PM   #97 
     - Yeah, we ended up sending flowers and an apology  pipi_k   Aug-26-10 01:27 PM   #101 
        - What was she like before she lost her mind?  Hekate   Aug-26-10 09:34 PM   #163 
           - She was the typical sweet old lady...  pipi_k   Aug-26-10 10:29 PM   #187 
              - I'm so sorry. It's so hard to watch a parent leave that way. As for this thread, I'm saddened...  Hekate   Aug-26-10 11:40 PM   #193 
                 - I think the other thing people can't...or won't...understand is  pipi_k   Aug-27-10 08:34 AM   #220 
                    - People know. They just don't consider it an acceptable excuse.  Raineyb   Aug-27-10 09:34 AM   #226 
  - exactly, I've seen and heard it as well.  Carolina   Aug-26-10 11:17 AM   #61 
  - I have witnessed racism, political and social biases working in  lumpy   Aug-26-10 11:55 AM   #69 
  - You're very wrong, with regards to dementia  Chulanowa   Aug-26-10 11:02 PM   #190 
     - My father in law thought the Cossacks were coming to get him. He didn't recognize his wife sometimes  Hekate   Aug-26-10 11:51 PM   #194 
  - That's where my 10% sympathy comes in.  JBoy   Aug-26-10 10:12 AM   #30 
  - Or had a stroke, or both.  Lars39   Aug-26-10 10:13 AM   #31 
  - Lots of elderly dementia patients do and say all sorts of things  TwilightGardener   Aug-26-10 10:18 AM   #35 
  - Bullshit. That's just a bigot who had control when they were young.  slampoet   Aug-26-10 03:06 PM   #120 
     - you are totally incorrect. The Higher Brain functions are diminished or gone that leaves  KittyWampus   Aug-26-10 04:29 PM   #135 
        - So you are insulting the professional abilites of the entire staff ?  slampoet   Aug-26-10 05:58 PM   #137 
        - Kitty Wampus is right.  Mimosa   Aug-27-10 10:37 AM   #244 
  - ZERO sympathy for the bigot on the floor--I doubt it did anything to cure her bigotry though  niyad   Aug-26-10 10:14 AM   #32 
  - Welcome to Indiana ...  Myrina   Aug-26-10 10:24 AM   #37 
  - Patients rights are patient rights. If someone is ignorant enough to prefer  Better Today   Aug-26-10 10:26 AM   #38 
  - Nurses and nurses' aides get "fired" by patients and families all the time--  TwilightGardener   Aug-26-10 10:34 AM   #45 
  - My sympathy for the nurse...  red red red   Aug-26-10 10:28 AM   #40 
  - If the nurse was a cop the old lady would be tasered  Evasporque   Aug-26-10 10:30 AM   #43 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-26-10 10:31 AM   #44 
  - Shut down the home! Throw the other patients in the streets!  Phil The Cat   Aug-26-10 02:46 PM   #117 
  - IF that aide had helped the woman despite her "no black CNA's" note,  old mark   Aug-26-10 10:36 AM   #48 
  - It might say "no Black CNAs" on paper but I'll bet the patient didn't say "Black"  Raschel   Aug-26-10 11:49 AM   #67 
  - This might explain some teabaggers:  mike r   Aug-26-10 10:42 AM   #49 
  - I guess that means when they get old they say what they really think.  Raschel   Aug-27-10 02:26 PM   #280 
  - I hope the hateful racist laid there for hours and hours and messes herself too  xultar   Aug-26-10 10:49 AM   #50 
  - Would you still say that  Phil The Cat   Aug-26-10 02:55 PM   #118 
     - I sure the hell would. If a black person was equally as racist and requested only  xultar   Aug-26-10 07:42 PM   #138 
        - The UN of Love!  JuniperLea   Aug-27-10 02:34 PM   #281 
  - let her lie on the floor  dem mba   Aug-26-10 10:54 AM   #52 
  - Please Please PLEASE!  Phil The Cat   Aug-26-10 03:00 PM   #119 
     - Don't know why you're wasting your time making excuse for the old bigot.  Raineyb   Aug-26-10 08:02 PM   #143 
  - This type of request is not uncommon  ismnotwasm   Aug-26-10 10:59 AM   #53 
  - I Am In A Similar  RobinA   Aug-26-10 11:35 AM   #64 
     - Thanks for your comment. It's a shining light in a really dark thread  KittyWampus   Aug-26-10 12:03 PM   #71 
     - Thank you for sharing your experiences.  FedUpWithIt All   Aug-26-10 12:30 PM   #77 
     - That's true, many are responding unlike themselves, but in this case  Jefferson23   Aug-26-10 01:08 PM   #90 
     - Thanks for this - there are very few of us here with your viewpoint it seems.  cbdo2007   Aug-26-10 02:12 PM   #115 
     - Thankfully. I'd hate to think there are a hell of a lot of people here who think  Raineyb   Aug-26-10 08:04 PM   #144 
     - Enlightening.  dkf   Aug-26-10 07:47 PM   #139 
     - Well said  lumberjack_jeff   Aug-26-10 08:00 PM   #142 
     - it wasn't a random comment by the patient -- it was a daily note in her assignment sheet  fishwax   Aug-26-10 08:27 PM   #150 
     - Yup, good comment.  coti   Aug-26-10 09:33 PM   #162 
  - What if they had a biracial CNA?  KamaAina   Aug-26-10 11:13 AM   #60 
  - Wow!  onpatrol98   Aug-26-10 11:36 AM   #65 
  - I'm 0% sympathetic for the patient.  CakeGrrl   Aug-26-10 11:45 AM   #66 
  - WOW!!!!!  Phil The Cat   Aug-26-10 03:06 PM   #121 
     - The opinion is being expressed toward a bigot. Infirmity is really no god damned excuse.  Raineyb   Aug-26-10 08:09 PM   #145 
     - Then you better pray you never become senile and incontinent, never have a stroke...  Hekate   Aug-26-10 09:09 PM   #156 
     - They put a No black CNA note in the woman's file. What the fuck would you have the CNA do?  Raineyb   Aug-26-10 09:30 PM   #160 
        - I'm not talking about "a bigot." I'm talking about a frail elder lying on the floor, undiagnosed  Hekate   Aug-26-10 09:48 PM   #167 
           - You are talking about a bigot. One who specifically requested no black CNA. The  Raineyb   Aug-26-10 10:01 PM   #171 
              - I am more sorry for you than you will ever know.  Hekate   Aug-26-10 11:54 PM   #195 
                 - I don't need your fucking sympathy. Save it for the bigot you've been defending.  Raineyb   Aug-27-10 12:19 AM   #197 
     - Who is defending the bigotry?  Phil The Cat   Aug-27-10 02:30 AM   #202 
        - Oh, but see, putting a convicted murderer to death  pipi_k   Aug-27-10 08:18 AM   #218 
           - What the fuck does this have to do with the death penalty?  Raineyb   Aug-27-10 08:57 AM   #221 
              - FYI  pipi_k   Aug-27-10 09:28 AM   #224 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-27-10 09:46 AM   #230 
                    - Fairy is a common perjorative for gays  Phil The Cat   Aug-27-10 11:25 AM   #253 
                       - Excuse you but the fairy is not a reference to gays it's a reference to the imaginary winged people.  Raineyb   Aug-27-10 11:28 AM   #255 
     - Excuse me? She CHOSE to discriminate. She reaps what she sows.  CakeGrrl   Aug-27-10 02:54 AM   #204 
     - Thank you for admitting it!  Phil The Cat   Aug-27-10 04:25 AM   #209 
     - The CNA is not obligated to risk injury to herself to help the old woman in order  Raineyb   Aug-27-10 09:02 AM   #222 
        - Did I EVER say the CNA should force her help?  Phil The Cat   Aug-27-10 10:43 AM   #248 
     - You have no idea if she "chose" to discriminate. Senile people often don't chose anything  KittyWampus   Aug-27-10 12:37 PM   #267 
     - She's a racist and specifically ordered no black aides.  Arkana   Aug-27-10 11:57 AM   #259 
  - Nice inflammatory headline there.  CBGLuthier   Aug-26-10 11:53 AM   #68 
  - No kidding; the OP would have you believe the nurse just walked away  CakeGrrl   Aug-27-10 03:12 AM   #206 
  - GOPer's tells us words have meaning and actions have consequences  FightingBobsghost   Aug-26-10 12:17 PM   #73 
  - I think the error occurred by extending gender preferences  gvstn   Aug-26-10 12:27 PM   #74 
  - I work in a nursing home  Chulanowa   Aug-26-10 12:28 PM   #75 
  - Thank you for working with the aged!!!  Phil The Cat   Aug-26-10 03:13 PM   #122 
     - Actually, Phil and this is where you're in the wrong.  Chan790   Aug-26-10 03:24 PM   #124 
        - I am not faulting the CNA  Phil The Cat   Aug-26-10 03:36 PM   #125 
  - Again, walking a mile in someone else's shoes...  pipi_k   Aug-26-10 12:29 PM   #76 
  - There's no reason to be "tolerant" towards bigotry  Chulanowa   Aug-26-10 12:33 PM   #80 
  - And here's where the gray area comes in...  pipi_k   Aug-26-10 12:42 PM   #81 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-26-10 12:49 PM   #85 
        - +1000... all of that was complete bullshit!!! nt  CBR   Aug-26-10 12:52 PM   #86 
        - Thanks for the eloquent rebuttal and all....  pipi_k   Aug-26-10 01:11 PM   #92 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-26-10 01:39 PM   #107 
           - Actually, I'm defending an old woman  pipi_k   Aug-26-10 01:58 PM   #110 
              - I cannot prove she doesn't have a mental health problem but  CBR   Aug-26-10 04:06 PM   #132 
           - Quite frankly a single word in rebuttal would have sufficed. Bullshit covers it quite well  Raineyb   Aug-26-10 08:15 PM   #149 
              - As I said above...  pipi_k   Aug-26-10 09:26 PM   #159 
                 - Your tolerance of bigotry puts you in the same category of the bigots. Your bullshit  Raineyb   Aug-26-10 09:32 PM   #161 
                    - It's too bad...  pipi_k   Aug-26-10 09:56 PM   #169 
                       - It's too bad you're a fucking apologist for bigotry. We could sure use less apologia that's for  Raineyb   Aug-26-10 10:06 PM   #172 
                          - And we could use a lot less hatred for others in this world  pipi_k   Aug-26-10 10:11 PM   #178 
                             - Who's got time to waste hating the bigot? I can enjoy the schadenfreude  Raineyb   Aug-26-10 10:15 PM   #180 
                                - Excusing hate...  pipi_k   Aug-26-10 10:25 PM   #184 
                                   - I don't care how old she is! THERE IS NO FUCKING EXCUSE FOR BIGOTRY  Raineyb   Aug-26-10 10:28 PM   #186 
                                      - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-26-10 10:33 PM   #188 
                                         - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-26-10 11:07 PM   #191 
                                         - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-27-10 09:47 AM   #231 
        - If you have to resort to being vulgar to someone...  pipi_k   Aug-26-10 01:09 PM   #91 
           - Make vulgar arguments, get a vulgar reply  Chulanowa   Aug-26-10 01:19 PM   #96 
              - It wasn't my statement, dear...  pipi_k   Aug-26-10 01:31 PM   #102 
                 - And again, it is pedantic horse shit  Chulanowa   Aug-26-10 01:33 PM   #103 
                    - Hah..yeah, OK...."context"  pipi_k   Aug-26-10 01:53 PM   #109 
                       - That was not your initial point  Chulanowa   Aug-27-10 12:28 AM   #199 
  - Why would I possibly care what someone making that kind of request has gone through? (nt)  Posteritatis   Aug-26-10 01:06 PM   #89 
  - I guess you wouldn't care unless you were a compassionate human being.  pipi_k   Aug-26-10 01:13 PM   #93 
     - Because coddling bigotry is so compassionate. Fuck that. (nt)  Posteritatis   Aug-26-10 01:14 PM   #94 
        - "Coddling" it? Who said anything about coddling it?  pipi_k   Aug-26-10 01:37 PM   #105 
           - It seems like some people  Phil The Cat   Aug-26-10 03:57 PM   #130 
           - LOL  JonLP24   Aug-26-10 08:13 PM   #148 
           - You do every time you make excuses for it.  Raineyb   Aug-26-10 08:46 PM   #151 
              - I "don't fool anyone"?  pipi_k   Aug-26-10 09:04 PM   #154 
                 - Why state what's bloody obvious. Your defense of bigotry speaks for itself. n/t  Raineyb   Aug-26-10 09:34 PM   #164 
                    - And your hatred for an elderly woman who can't defend herself  pipi_k   Aug-26-10 10:08 PM   #175 
                       - Not at all. YOU are defending a bigot. I'm saying being elderly is no excuse  Raineyb   Aug-26-10 10:24 PM   #183 
  - "I don't want to be handled by black people"  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Aug-26-10 02:05 PM   #113 
  - THere is no god-damned reason to be "tolerant" of bigotry. So what exactly  Raineyb   Aug-26-10 08:13 PM   #147 
  - that's life, baby...  pipi_k   Aug-26-10 10:06 PM   #173 
     - So some of us are just supposed to "tolerate" bigotry. Really? That's just life?  Raineyb   Aug-26-10 10:06 PM   #174 
     - What's your grand plan, huh?  pipi_k   Aug-26-10 10:14 PM   #179 
        - And your grand plan is what tell the victims of bigotry to shut up and take it?  Raineyb   Aug-26-10 10:26 PM   #185 
     - And if the lady didn't want a black CNA, that's life.  Starbucks Anarchist   Aug-26-10 10:23 PM   #182 
     - And that's the saddest thing about this  pipi_k   Aug-27-10 10:00 AM   #235 
     - The patient HAD THE INSTRUCTION PUT IN HER FILE  CakeGrrl   Aug-27-10 03:09 AM   #205 
        - Go back and read again, because that's not what I wrote  pipi_k   Aug-27-10 10:06 AM   #236 
        - Did THE PATIENT ever actually make such a specific request  Phil The Cat   Aug-27-10 11:49 AM   #257 
           - Yes the patient did.  Raineyb   Aug-27-10 12:00 PM   #260 
           - Dupe  Raineyb   Aug-27-10 12:00 PM   #261 
  - Your logic reminds me of the anti-Ground Zero mosque people.  Starbucks Anarchist   Aug-26-10 10:21 PM   #181 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-26-10 12:30 PM   #78 
  - Absolutely incredible, the ignorance and hatred..pathetic. n/t  Jefferson23   Aug-26-10 12:46 PM   #82 
  - Sickening, isn't it? When will this shit ever end??  Ishoutandscream2   Aug-26-10 12:49 PM   #84 
  - I just don't understand, WTF is wrong with people??  JNelson6563   Aug-26-10 12:48 PM   #83 
  - As they say, there's no fool like an old fool.  Stevenmarc   Aug-26-10 12:55 PM   #87 
  - well...I'm an ICU/ER/Tele nurse and have seen it all.  w8liftinglady   Aug-26-10 01:02 PM   #88 
  - And you know, the irony...  pipi_k   Aug-26-10 01:22 PM   #98 
  - Sign me up for a double order of cold contempt.  TheKentuckian   Aug-26-10 04:24 PM   #134 
     - Sorry, I didn't see anything here that came close to addressing  pipi_k   Aug-26-10 09:45 PM   #166 
        - I did address it. I said that I don't agree with the desire for suffering, how I would deal with my  TheKentuckian   Aug-26-10 10:10 PM   #176 
        - There is no fucking double standard. No one is making a broad brush about the woman's ethnicity.  Raineyb   Aug-26-10 10:11 PM   #177 
  - When I worked LTC  ismnotwasm   Aug-26-10 01:23 PM   #99 
  - That is why  mstinamotorcity   Aug-26-10 01:16 PM   #95 
  - I can't see how any medical establishment would ever allow such an order to stand  JerseygirlCT   Aug-26-10 01:39 PM   #106 
  - Exactly, and which is why I would hold the family  pipi_k   Aug-26-10 02:04 PM   #112 
  - This reminds me of a John Lennon song.  Radical Activist   Aug-26-10 01:42 PM   #108 
  - Geez, is there no human decency and compassion left??  cbdo2007   Aug-26-10 02:09 PM   #114 
  - Apparently not...  pipi_k   Aug-26-10 09:00 PM   #153 
  - I see your pic and raise you one. And here's your post with a few changes.  Raschel   Aug-27-10 01:23 PM   #270 
  - you are a good person.I admire your response  w8liftinglady   Aug-26-10 09:07 PM   #155 
  - No he's not. People who make excuses for bigots are NOT good people.  Raineyb   Aug-27-10 01:30 PM   #272 
     - Don't you know that Black nurse should have helped that White Lady up from the floor?  Raschel   Aug-27-10 02:15 PM   #276 
  - Interesting how you defend indecency in the name of decency.  Raineyb   Aug-26-10 09:21 PM   #158 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-26-10 03:22 PM   #123 
  - Nobody in your family has negative, even repulsive opinions?  Phil The Cat   Aug-26-10 03:50 PM   #127 
  - that person is gonna be surprised all to hell,  onethatcares   Aug-26-10 04:03 PM   #131 
  - And soon....nt  laughingliberal   Aug-26-10 04:08 PM   #133 
  - What does this have to do with "sympathy for the patient"? The nurse filed the lawsuit.  readmoreoften   Aug-26-10 05:18 PM   #136 
  - This is one of the most bizarre and uncharitable threads I have ever seen at DU  Hekate   Aug-26-10 08:52 PM   #152 
  - You said it better than I ever could....  pipi_k   Aug-26-10 09:35 PM   #165 
  - I gave an example with an actual patient of mine  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-26-10 11:19 PM   #192 
  - I hope she wins the lawsuit.  Freetradesucks   Aug-26-10 09:57 PM   #170 
  - Leaving the legal issues out of this one  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-26-10 11:00 PM   #189 
  - {{{{{{{Nadin}}}}}}}  Hekate   Aug-27-10 12:07 AM   #196 
     - That day it wasn't easy  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-27-10 12:24 AM   #198 
  - I hope that patient stayed on the floor and suffered there.  political_Dem   Aug-27-10 01:39 AM   #201 
  - Your opinion is EVIL!!!  Phil The Cat   Aug-27-10 02:33 AM   #203 
  - Nasty you are  Hekate   Aug-27-10 03:46 AM   #207 
  - I have a lot of compassion for people. But not for a woman like this. She deserves contempt.  political_Dem   Aug-27-10 07:18 AM   #216 
     - Didn't you hear? Giving the bigot what they wanted while still managing  Raineyb   Aug-27-10 09:30 AM   #225 
  - Just what we need  pipi_k   Aug-27-10 08:04 AM   #217 
  - Some of the things I read here which happen in the USA  dipsydoodle   Aug-27-10 04:00 AM   #208 
  - The UK jails sick, dying people  Phil The Cat   Aug-27-10 04:38 AM   #210 
  - I see no mention of her being sick and dying  dipsydoodle   Aug-27-10 05:55 AM   #215 
     - In the lawsuit...  pipi_k   Aug-27-10 09:18 AM   #223 
        - I think we can all pretty much agree that she's old and weak. Not SICK.  Raschel   Aug-27-10 02:18 PM   #277 
  - Offensive but happens in UK too ...especially in the NHS more with OAP's  HipChick   Aug-27-10 05:53 AM   #214 
  - God  Dorian Gray   Aug-27-10 04:55 AM   #212 
  - Reminds me of that episode of MASH where the patient requested no Black Blood  LynneSin   Aug-27-10 09:40 AM   #228 
  - Similar instances have happened in real life. n/t  Fire1   Aug-27-10 10:32 AM   #242 
  - You would think that someone with one foot in the grave would  Fire1   Aug-27-10 09:42 AM   #229 
  - Neither do I. What I find particularly galling is that  Raineyb   Aug-27-10 09:53 AM   #233 
  - Maybe it IS a catch-22 but I'm still a work in progress and to date  Fire1   Aug-27-10 10:07 AM   #237 
     - My compassion doesn't extend that far either. In fact it pisses me off.  Raineyb   Aug-27-10 10:17 AM   #239 
        - True Raineyb. I think it's safe to say, all of us have those  Fire1   Aug-27-10 10:29 AM   #241 
           - Even if most of us have never experienced systemic racism...  pipi_k   Aug-27-10 10:59 AM   #249 
              - While you're pissed that it exists at all, I'm pissed at the  Fire1   Aug-27-10 11:22 AM   #252 
              - And still making excuses for bigotry. Of course white women have it so much more  Raineyb   Aug-27-10 11:27 AM   #254 
                 - That's it! Embrace your pain!  Phil The Cat   Aug-27-10 12:10 PM   #263 
                 - Now I get you. You are one of those people who want everyone to "be the better person"  Raineyb   Aug-27-10 12:20 PM   #265 
                 - Hey - she wasn't DYING or even HURT. SHE was LYING on the frickin' floor and couldn't get up.  Raschel   Aug-27-10 01:34 PM   #273 
                    - Elderly patients on the floor can be in real medical trouble--  TwilightGardener   Aug-27-10 02:15 PM   #275 
                 - Did you see that picture of the BATTERED old lady that doesn't have anything to do with this story?  Raschel   Aug-27-10 12:45 PM   #268 
                    - I hadn't noticed the picture but I did go back and look for it.  Raineyb   Aug-27-10 12:53 PM   #269 
                    - My response to the pic is above. You go and have a great day.  Raschel   Aug-27-10 01:27 PM   #271 
                    - "Battered"? Not necessarily. All it takes is a good slip-and-fall at that age, to look like that  Hekate   Aug-27-10 01:36 PM   #274 
  - You don't seem to understand that death of synapses leads to irrational fears  Mimosa   Aug-27-10 10:42 AM   #246 
     - I, too, have had experience caring for the elderly and  Fire1   Aug-27-10 11:11 AM   #251 
     - What difference does it make, whether she had negative feelings or fears  TwilightGardener   Aug-27-10 11:54 AM   #258 
     - You are totally wrong. Human BIOLOGY dictates we certainly DO develop irrational fears  KittyWampus   Aug-27-10 12:27 PM   #266 
     - There was enough forethought to make a request and have it put on a chart.  Raineyb   Aug-27-10 11:30 AM   #256 
  - my father was a racist  mimitabby   Aug-27-10 09:51 AM   #232 
  - Interesting thread--those who have been professional caregivers  TwilightGardener   Aug-27-10 10:42 AM   #247 
  - The CNA took it to court, and the courts ruled that patients would not have a choice based on race.  FrenchieCat   Aug-27-10 12:01 PM   #262 
  - I agree with the court--the health care system would suffer terribly  TwilightGardener   Aug-27-10 12:11 PM   #264 
  - Old people fall on the floor and can't get up. She don't want no coloreds helping her.  Raschel   Aug-27-10 02:25 PM   #279 
  - Locking  cbayer   Aug-27-10 02:42 PM   #282 
 

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