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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 07:04 PM
Response to Reply #19
160. It's a classic case of blaming the victim
The ugly racism and bigotry are all the Imam's fault for being such an advocate of peace, understanding and tolerance! :sarcasm:
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  -Scary, ugly scene in New York marmar  Aug-24-10 07:34 AM   #0 
  - Nothing uglier than an ignorant mob.  Zoeisright   Aug-24-10 07:35 AM   #1 
  - Ignorant is the key word here. nt  Enthusiast   Aug-25-10 04:58 AM   #189 
  - No, racist iss the key word.  Solomon   Aug-25-10 07:26 AM   #194 
  - But he was out of uniform! He should have been wearing one of those vampire stoppers around his neck  Towlie   Aug-25-10 07:44 AM   #196 
  - Maybe now these two will understand why so many of us support the right...  Tesha   Aug-24-10 07:38 AM   #2 
  - They don't care ..  butterfly77   Aug-24-10 09:36 AM   #55 
  - The same types who shouted "Kill him" during Palin/Mccain rallies.  nc4bo   Aug-24-10 07:38 AM   #3 
  - That's why they're called Hatriots.  calimary   Aug-24-10 12:35 PM   #123 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-24-10 07:41 AM   #4 
  - So it's the planned community center's fault that these people are idiots?  marmar   Aug-24-10 07:46 AM   #5 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-24-10 07:51 AM   #7 
     - No, actually, it wasn't predictable  pinboy3niner   Aug-24-10 09:18 AM   #45 
     - I wonder if Murdoch and his ilk, laugh at the way they can sway the people  newspeak   Aug-24-10 09:58 AM   #70 
     - I not only think they laugh, I think the driving force of ego-maniac's like Limbaugh, Beck  harun   Aug-24-10 11:00 AM   # 
     - I Hate To Say This...  Steely_Dan   Aug-24-10 10:45 AM   #91 
     - What's shocking is how bigots get to keep arguing for their bigotry  RetroLounge   Aug-24-10 08:12 PM   #172 
  - by all means, let's appease hateful RW bigots.  dionysus   Aug-24-10 07:54 AM   #8 
  - We appeased Bin Laden by getting out of Saudi Arabia.  dkf   Aug-24-10 08:12 AM   #18 
     - if it's okay to let RWers bully muslims, what other groups is it okay to be bigoted against? where  dionysus   Aug-24-10 08:27 AM   #24 
     - it's those damn brown people  newspeak   Aug-24-10 10:11 AM   #77 
     - It would have been a better idea never to have been there in the  sabrina 1   Aug-24-10 04:11 PM   #155 
  - The people behind Park51 are not the aggressors.  DUFan   Aug-24-10 07:55 AM   #10 
  - They could have been the saviors.  dkf   Aug-24-10 08:10 AM   #17 
     - I don't understand  DUFan   Aug-24-10 08:32 AM   #27 
        - If they had moved it they could have been a symbol of understanding.  dkf   Aug-24-10 10:40 AM   #89 
           - Symbol of understanding bigots?  MadBadger   Aug-24-10 12:29 PM   #120 
           - Wouldn't have mattered where it is.  GoneOffShore   Aug-24-10 01:21 PM   #139 
           - the racist assholes are protesting a proposed mosque here in temecula, ca..  frylock   Aug-24-10 03:07 PM   #146 
           - "They could have moved"  left is right   Aug-24-10 03:26 PM   #152 
           - That's why the bigots are blocking a mosque here too, I reckon.  TheKentuckian   Aug-24-10 06:55 PM   #159 
           - Understanding of what? Bigotry? Ignorance? Blind hatred? nt  JerseygirlCT   Aug-24-10 07:58 PM   #168 
           - Really?  shellgame26   Aug-24-10 08:00 PM   #169 
           - I assume you just missed the sarcasm thingy on you post by mistake...........ugh  lunasun   Aug-25-10 10:34 AM   #206 
  - I hope you save some of that blame for the wingnut pundits and politicians  blogslut   Aug-24-10 07:58 AM   #14 
  - Both things were completely predictable.  dkf   Aug-24-10 08:08 AM   #16 
  - black should have just sat down and stfu. women should have stayed in kitchen and stfu  seabeyond   Aug-24-10 08:26 AM   #23 
     - Blacks achieved freedom of movement, women get to vote  dkf   Aug-24-10 08:30 AM   #26 
        - wow, way to dishonesty interpret the issue. muslims get the right to practice religion, but wtf. nt  seabeyond   Aug-24-10 08:33 AM   #28 
        - You all said they have a mosque two blocks away from this one.  dkf   Aug-24-10 08:36 AM   #29 
           - they were settle and could not be kicked out and not a good enough wedge issue.  seabeyond   Aug-24-10 08:39 AM   #30 
           - let me ask, why it is not simpler for you anti mosque people to educate yourself that this form of  seabeyond   Aug-24-10 08:41 AM   #32 
           - Hell I say if you want to prove this religious freedom for Muslims point you need a mosque ON ground  dkf   Aug-24-10 08:49 AM   #34 
              - again, stupid argument. is there an available empty building zoned for business up for sale on the  seabeyond   Aug-24-10 08:55 AM   #35 
              - The Imam said that is why the site was chosen specifically for it's 9/11 connection.  dkf   Aug-24-10 09:00 AM   #37 
                 - no, you still cannot do whatever. that area is allotted for a project.  seabeyond   Aug-24-10 09:05 AM   #40 
                 - Personally I think 9/11 was about getting the US out of the holy land of Saudi Arabia.  dkf   Aug-24-10 09:12 AM   #42 
                    - not that you would leave out the equation of foxs news promoting the hate and wedge issue  seabeyond   Aug-24-10 09:17 AM   #44 
                    - What else do you expect from them?  dkf   Aug-24-10 09:35 AM   #54 
                       - there was no issue. they were welcomed. no reason to be doing shit cause all appearance  seabeyond   Aug-24-10 09:37 AM   #56 
                          - They never went to the 9/11 families. That is THE problem.  dkf   Aug-24-10 09:40 AM   #60 
                             - they were welcomed by fox. they were welcomed by u.s. govt. they were welcomed by  seabeyond   Aug-24-10 09:53 AM   #65 
                             - Overlooking the people who were most affected by 9/11 is not smart.  dkf   Aug-24-10 10:28 AM   #82 
                             - you cleverly, conveniently miss the whole point in order to keep your one piece alive  seabeyond   Aug-24-10 10:30 AM   #84 
                             - They are the ones putting in the center. It was their burden to properly prepare everyone.  dkf   Aug-24-10 10:35 AM   #86 
                             - keep on fine tuning your incorrect problem. kinda just what the rw does to create their mess, hate  seabeyond   Aug-24-10 10:37 AM   #87 
                             - The reason it does not fly for you is you can't see beyond "it's my right".  dkf   Aug-24-10 10:46 AM   #92 
                             - you are wrong. nt  seabeyond   Aug-24-10 10:47 AM   #93 
                             - it was fine until Pam Geller fanned the flames of hatred  Alameda   Aug-24-10 09:00 PM   #178 
                             - How far away would the center have to be to skip the consultation process?  wtmusic   Aug-24-10 10:39 AM   #88 
                             - The point IS the consultation process. How do you create peace by avoiding dialogue?  dkf   Aug-24-10 10:44 AM   #90 
                             - That's ABSOLUTE BS!  pinboy3niner   Aug-24-10 11:02 AM   #99 
                             - Not initiating dialogue is not the same as avoiding it.  wtmusic   Aug-24-10 11:30 AM   #106 
                             - 90.The point IS the consultation process. How do you create peace by avoiding dialogue?  dkf   Aug-24-10 11:02 AM   #100 
                             - Bullshit. American muslims are just as American as 911 victims, they don't need special permission.  beam me up scottie   Aug-24-10 11:00 AM   #98 
                             - 100% right  Dorian Gray   Aug-24-10 12:51 PM   #130 
                             - Well said  shellgame26   Aug-24-10 08:51 PM   #174 
                             - Delete nt  Hansel   Aug-24-10 12:54 PM   #132 
                             - What utter and complete horseshit.  liberalhistorian   Aug-24-10 01:17 PM   #137 
                             - Oh bullshit. Here's proof otherwise.  uppityperson   Aug-24-10 12:27 PM   #119 
                             - Thanks for that link. Also...  pinboy3niner   Aug-24-10 12:40 PM   #124 
                             - Thanks for that also. I am so tired of the throwing out of emotional crap and then no reply after  uppityperson   Aug-24-10 12:46 PM   #125 
                             - The 9/11 families? You act like it is a monolithic group.  Hansel   Aug-24-10 12:53 PM   #131 
                             - I'm one of them.  eilen   Aug-24-10 08:52 PM   #175 
                             - wrong place.  BrklynLiberal   Aug-24-10 09:51 PM   #183 
                             - Thanks for that very eloquent post.  BrklynLiberal   Aug-24-10 09:52 PM   #184 
                             - Ridiculous  JerseygirlCT   Aug-24-10 08:00 PM   #170 
                             - WTF?  shellgame26   Aug-24-10 08:43 PM   #173 
                    - And we REALLY appreciate your continuing to spread that nasty talk.  uppityperson   Aug-24-10 12:26 PM   #118 
                 - You can't do "whatever"  Dorian Gray   Aug-24-10 12:49 PM   #127 
                 - "You can still do whatever" on the WTC site? No, you can't. Have you been reading anything?  uppityperson   Aug-24-10 12:50 PM   #129 
              - Agree 100%.  wtmusic   Aug-24-10 10:31 AM   #85 
                 - That is another thing that gets me. The utter hypocrisy of saying the Mosque is okay because the  dkf   Aug-24-10 10:54 AM   #94 
                    - The lie that they're desecrating "hallowed Ground Zero" is dog whistle for bigots.  beam me up scottie   Aug-24-10 11:05 AM   #102 
                    - So it would be a desecration to build a mosque there? See where this argument goes?  dkf   Aug-24-10 11:45 AM   #109 
                       - Keep blowing.  beam me up scottie   Aug-24-10 12:05 PM   #112 
                       - Dude...  Dorian Gray   Aug-24-10 12:54 PM   #133 
                       - "desecration" is what happens to "hallowed ground"  dkf   Aug-24-10 01:18 PM   #138 
                          - "desecration" and "hallowed" ground  CLANG   Aug-24-10 03:20 PM   #149 
                          - There are quite a few  Dorian Gray   Aug-24-10 07:38 PM   #163 
                             - as olsen says.... the constitution is not up for popular vote. i love that. nt  seabeyond   Aug-24-10 07:56 PM   #165 
                       - I don't care where they build it.  Chan790   Aug-24-10 09:58 PM   #185 
                    - The argument is that is on GZ.  verges   Aug-24-10 01:13 PM   #136 
                    - It would be okay on ground zero. Satisfied?!  AllTooEasy   Aug-24-10 04:14 PM   #156 
                    - And the retail development planned for the actual site of  JerseygirlCT   Aug-24-10 08:03 PM   #171 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-24-10 08:44 AM   #33 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-24-10 08:56 AM   #36 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-24-10 09:25 AM   #47 
              - doesnt scare me much. does disgust me. nt  seabeyond   Aug-24-10 09:30 AM   #50 
              - what scares me is the violence of a mob.  newspeak   Aug-24-10 10:04 AM   #75 
                 - agreed. yes. a black man walks thru a crowd and the willingness and eagerness  seabeyond   Aug-24-10 11:55 AM   #111 
                    - Two Coptic X-tains there to PROTEST Park51  Karenina   Aug-24-10 02:53 PM   #143 
              - well, on thought, i guess it is scary in that these people create an ugliness for all of us to live.  seabeyond   Aug-24-10 09:30 AM   #52 
                 - Right, that's exactly what I meant  LostinVA   Aug-24-10 09:58 AM   #68 
           - You won't stop true discussion by screaming Bigot!  dkf   Aug-24-10 09:45 AM   #62 
              - it is bigotry. there's no way to tapdance around it. you're bigoted against muslims.  dionysus   Aug-24-10 09:50 AM   #64 
              - No I think that the way it was handled defeated the purpose.  dkf   Aug-24-10 10:00 AM   #71 
                 - Muslims have nothing to apologize for, only folks who equate them with terrorist do  ShamelessHussy   Aug-24-10 01:00 PM   #134 
              - being a minority does not exclude you from being a bigot either. nt  seabeyond   Aug-24-10 09:54 AM   #66 
              - +1  LostinVA   Aug-24-10 10:03 AM   #74 
              - As far as I'm concerned it's just another n word.  dkf   Aug-24-10 10:19 AM   #79 
              - and you are truly clueless what "You people " have an idea about or not. nt  seabeyond   Aug-24-10 10:29 AM   #83 
              - Well tell me about where you live then. I highly doubt it can be as varied as my city.  dkf   Aug-24-10 10:58 AM   #95 
                 - so now we are in a competition who has more diversity? and this will  seabeyond   Aug-24-10 10:59 AM   #96 
                 - I said you people haven't seen multiculturalism like I have. You took offense at that.  dkf   Aug-24-10 11:05 AM   #101 
                 - Couple weeks ago a black man asked me what a woman like me was doing with a Mexican.  beam me up scottie   Aug-24-10 11:15 AM   #104 
                 - offended by the truth? as i say, you are clueless. what an obsurd direction to take your post  seabeyond   Aug-24-10 11:41 AM   #107 
                 - Having seen multiculturalism doesn't exclude you from being a bigot  uppityperson   Aug-24-10 12:33 PM   #122 
                 - maybe "us people"  shellgame26   Aug-24-10 09:33 PM   #181 
                 - You've got nothing to prove, seabeyond.  beam me up scottie   Aug-24-10 11:21 AM   #105 
                 - i have alwyas refused that cute little trap of defending myself in that manner  seabeyond   Aug-24-10 11:43 AM   #108 
                 - Next he's going to say he even has Muslim friends!  stranger81   Aug-24-10 12:22 PM   #117 
                    - lol, isnt that the way that argument is going. you made me laugh. nt  seabeyond   Aug-24-10 01:08 PM   #135 
                 - tell us about your black friends  frylock   Aug-24-10 03:13 PM   #148 
              - sounds more like  shellgame26   Aug-24-10 09:20 PM   #180 
              - You really can't see the difference between calling someone a slur and calling a bigot a bigot?  uppityperson   Aug-24-10 11:30 PM   #186 
              - what your saying then is any frothing rabid zealot can go create a  newspeak   Aug-25-10 12:44 PM   #212 
              - +1000  uppityperson   Aug-24-10 12:31 PM   #121 
              - Your minority status does not prevent you from being a bigot, it just makes you a hypocrite, too.  beam me up scottie   Aug-24-10 11:13 AM   #103 
              - You must hear that word often.  CLANG   Aug-24-10 03:22 PM   #150 
              - WTF? Are you serious?  shellgame26   Aug-24-10 09:13 PM   #179 
           - The same thing that's keeping "christians" from worshiping in one of the many  madmom   Aug-24-10 09:05 AM   #39 
           - WOW--that is really disingenuous! Nice try at irrelevant distraction.  pinboy3niner   Aug-24-10 09:08 AM   #41 
           - You truly believe all Muslim sects are the same? sort of like all christian ones?  uppityperson   Aug-24-10 12:20 PM   #115 
           - There is another mosque but is it this group's?  TheKentuckian   Aug-24-10 07:09 PM   #161 
           - She knows very well it's a bogus argument  pinboy3niner   Aug-24-10 07:50 PM   #164 
           - not to mention it is too small for the people that are a part of that mosque as it is. nt  seabeyond   Aug-24-10 07:57 PM   #166 
           - it is too small for the congregation....  Alameda   Aug-24-10 08:58 PM   #177 
           - Yes and blacks can set in the back of the bus.....  bowens43   Aug-25-10 05:07 AM   #190 
           - and blacks had seats at the back of the bus. Why were they complaining? nt  unpossibles   Aug-25-10 11:49 AM   #207 
        - The freedom to practice the religion of your choice doesn't float your boat?  MilesColtrane   Aug-24-10 10:03 AM   #73 
        - Or  Dorian Gray   Aug-24-10 12:46 PM   #126 
           - I really appreciate you. eom  uppityperson   Aug-24-10 12:49 PM   #128 
              - Right back at you!  Dorian Gray   Aug-24-10 07:33 PM   #162 
  - Having hope is a good thing but in this case I think in vain.  uppityperson   Aug-24-10 12:19 PM   #114 
  - wow... you are into people behaving horribly and putting ownness on the nonabuser  seabeyond   Aug-24-10 08:13 AM   #19 
  - It's a classic case of blaming the victim  pinboy3niner   Aug-24-10 07:04 PM   #160 
     - yup. nt  seabeyond   Aug-24-10 07:58 PM   #167 
  - The opposition to the mosque has nothing to do with Ground Zero. This should be obvious by now.  chrisa   Aug-24-10 09:27 AM   #49 
  - Bigotry should never be an acceptable road to peace.  Sea Witch   Aug-24-10 09:30 AM   #51 
  - Wow, That Is A Sick, Sick Fucking Thing To Say  Beetwasher   Aug-24-10 09:33 AM   #53 
  - sorry but with this attitude you side with the bigots  fascisthunter   Aug-24-10 10:06 AM   #76 
  - The Lord of the Flies  lame54   Aug-24-10 07:47 AM   #6 
  - It's often embarrassing to be an American.  Liberal In Texas   Aug-24-10 07:54 AM   #9 
  - That should be changed from "an American" to " a Human"  Sea Witch   Aug-24-10 09:37 AM   #57 
  - it isnt jsut america. it is world wide. hate, bigotry, fear. there is no where  seabeyond   Aug-24-10 09:58 AM   #69 
  - As with most conservative positions...racism is at the core....nt  Evasporque   Aug-24-10 07:56 AM   #11 
  - I have a good friend who is East Indian ~~ from Northern India  Hepburn   Aug-24-10 07:57 AM   #12 
  - Unfortunately they got a dose of worked up mob hate  lunatica   Aug-24-10 07:58 AM   #13 
  - Would anyone feel safe walking past this lot?  Turborama   Aug-24-10 08:04 AM   #15 
  - Did you ever think someone in the USA would have to shout out  jaxx   Aug-24-10 08:17 AM   #20 
  - Ummmm................  Amaril   Aug-25-10 02:52 PM   #213 
  - Only one way to settle this.(IMO)  jdlh8894   Aug-24-10 08:20 AM   #21 
  - It all seems to start the same way  Warpy   Aug-24-10 08:22 AM   #22 
  - Amen  JustAnotherGen   Aug-24-10 08:41 AM   #31 
  - It's not being done or supported by the government or police, yet.  chrisa   Aug-24-10 09:40 AM   #61 
  - "These people are profoundly misinformed about Islam"  CanonRay   Aug-24-10 08:30 AM   #25 
  - What's really troubling is that they have no desire to educate themselves..  nc4bo   Aug-24-10 10:22 AM   #80 
  - Typical teabagger racism  mike r   Aug-24-10 09:03 AM   #38 
  - I think we need to find where a church is being built close to an elementary school and  madmom   Aug-24-10 09:13 AM   #43 
  - It doesn't even need to be a church...  Colorado Liberal   Aug-24-10 05:54 PM   #157 
  - KKK Rally. Nothing more, nothing less.  chrisa   Aug-24-10 09:20 AM   #46 
  - Coptic Christians protesting religious freedom what irony!  Bluenorthwest   Aug-24-10 09:26 AM   #48 
  - This shows unequivocally that racism is on the rise again in the United States.  closeupready   Aug-24-10 09:38 AM   #58 
  - Did anyone ever see the film "My Name is Khan"?  closeupready   Aug-24-10 09:38 AM   #59 
  - I love what the guy said to them..it should be a bumper sticker or sign  AspenRose   Aug-24-10 09:45 AM   #63 
  - "Both said they had come to protest the mosque."  Javaman   Aug-24-10 09:57 AM   #67 
  - This aspect of the story has a very "Twilight Zone episode" quality to it!  bullwinkle428   Aug-24-10 10:12 AM   #78 
  - I have seen this type of  mstinamotorcity   Aug-24-10 10:02 AM   #72 
  - I have to wonder how many protestors in this manufactroversy  wtmusic   Aug-24-10 10:25 AM   #81 
  - That is just fucking sick. Is it really about being Muslim or just being brown, period?  Poll_Blind   Aug-24-10 11:00 AM   #97 
  - kick and recommend!!  Douglas Carpenter   Aug-24-10 11:45 AM   #110 
  - K&R n/t  myrna minx   Aug-24-10 12:08 PM   #113 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-24-10 12:22 PM   #116 
  - Pox News and hate radio  The Wizard   Aug-24-10 01:58 PM   #140 
  - K & R  Scurrilous   Aug-24-10 02:13 PM   #141 
  - i'm so depressed about this whole thing.  wookie72   Aug-24-10 02:17 PM   #142 
  - another kick  Douglas Carpenter   Aug-24-10 02:56 PM   #144 
  - These people are profoundly misinformed about EVERYTHING!  CLANG   Aug-24-10 03:03 PM   #145 
  - The ugliest Americans, taught nothing good by even uglier Americans. n/t  proReality   Aug-24-10 03:12 PM   #147 
  - it's not just Americans  wookie72   Aug-24-10 03:25 PM   #151 
     - I agree.  rtw   Aug-25-10 07:17 AM   #193 
        - I'm beginning to think the Internet is the problem  wookie72   Aug-25-10 07:56 AM   #197 
           - +1. nt  seabeyond   Aug-25-10 08:45 AM   #199 
           - stupid question...  wookie72   Aug-25-10 09:05 AM   #200 
              - nah. not stupid, just a newbie question. no text. so you dont have to go into  seabeyond   Aug-25-10 10:11 AM   #202 
              - Welcome to DU, wookie72!  pinboy3niner   Aug-25-10 10:22 AM   #203 
           - I don't know.  rtw   Aug-25-10 09:30 AM   #201 
              - Trouble is the 'net is a megaphone  wookie72   Aug-25-10 10:29 AM   #205 
  - Pure Racism. That's all they have, that's all they are.  savalez   Aug-24-10 03:57 PM   #153 
  - Now watch FOX deny it happened - claim the video is doctored and people are lying.  savalez   Aug-24-10 03:59 PM   #154 
  - Lord forgive me for saying this but  wial   Aug-24-10 06:46 PM   #158 
  - These rw thugs have been purposefully misinformed about Muslims ....  defendandprotect   Aug-24-10 08:57 PM   #176 
  - Ignorance is being used as a weapon by the repukes..and sadly, they are using it very  BrklynLiberal   Aug-24-10 09:48 PM   #182 
  - I hate that they make a big deal about, "it's all right I'm a Christian"  Maraya1969   Aug-25-10 02:58 AM   #187 
  - Ugly ugly ugly  Withywindle   Aug-25-10 03:03 AM   #188 
  - Make no mistake, the GOP and right wing media has fomented this kind of hatred and bigotry.  spicegal   Aug-25-10 05:23 AM   #191 
  - Bingo- Just like the Rawandan Genocide was encouraged by their own Glenn Beck.  BeHereNow   Aug-25-10 12:12 PM   #209 
  - LOL at the Egyptian Christians.  ingac70   Aug-25-10 05:55 AM   #192 
  - If the guy was white, the crowd would have assumed...  Deep13   Aug-25-10 07:31 AM   #195 
  - How ironic. The two dark skinned Christians who came to protest the Center are attacked.  olegramps   Aug-25-10 08:41 AM   #198 
  - Well who cares if they were not really Muslims; in both cases  lunasun   Aug-25-10 10:23 AM   #204 
  - I think everyone needs to read Joseph Nastralla's statement.  citizen snips   Aug-25-10 12:09 PM   #208 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-25-10 12:33 PM   #210 
     - You're right. It's probably not real muslims building that mosque.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Aug-25-10 12:35 PM   #211 
 

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