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| -Disgrace - Obama’s increasingly absurd gay marriage position |
Prism |
Aug-23-10 05:05 PM |
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Oh... It's YOU. |
lamp_shade |
Aug-23-10 05:09 PM |
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It is! |
Prism |
Aug-23-10 05:10 PM |
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Oh.... you know... same old same old. You? |
lamp_shade |
Aug-23-10 05:56 PM |
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Homophia is the "same old, same old" . . . in that, I agree --- |
defendandprotect |
Aug-24-10 11:16 AM |
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Do you have any thoughts about the issue at hand that you would like to share? n/t |
QC |
Aug-23-10 05:16 PM |
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Uh... nupe. |
lamp_shade |
Aug-23-10 05:20 PM |
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Aug-23-10 05:30 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
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Aug-23-10 05:37 PM |
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Some unreccers prefer the "early" Woodrow Wilson |
villager |
Aug-23-10 05:11 PM |
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I K&Red it up to zero. |
myrna minx |
Aug-23-10 05:11 PM |
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Shame on Obama supporters Unrec'ing this thread. |
LAGC |
Aug-23-10 05:19 PM |
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Well I just recommended the OP even though I'm an Obama supporter. |
Connie_Corleone |
Aug-23-10 05:28 PM |
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Thank you for that |
Sea Witch |
Aug-24-10 10:05 AM |
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I agree |
natrlron |
Aug-23-10 05:24 PM |
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Welcome to DU.. n/t |
Fumesucker |
Aug-23-10 05:25 PM |
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Hello |
bigwillq |
Aug-23-10 06:02 PM |
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Indeed. n/t |
Scurrilous |
Aug-24-10 10:40 AM |
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Obama's position on gay marriage is absurd, shameful, and inexplicable. |
Bunny |
Aug-23-10 05:25 PM |
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Aug-23-10 05:27 PM |
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It could be his own personal belief that gay marriage is wrong |
sabrina 1 |
Aug-23-10 08:00 PM |
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He is President of the United States... |
WillParkinson |
Aug-23-10 11:25 PM |
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Fucking nailed it. |
jgraz |
Aug-24-10 02:10 AM |
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"His religion does not trump my rights." |
Mad_Dem_X |
Aug-24-10 07:17 AM |
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+1 |
racaulk |
Aug-24-10 09:42 AM |
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+2 |
Fearless |
Aug-24-10 09:55 AM |
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And only =parts= of Leviticus are important, of course. |
Ignis |
Aug-24-10 01:27 PM |
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No. It couldn't be. |
Orsino |
Aug-24-10 04:56 AM |
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His faith prompted him to support gay marriage in 1996 |
eridani |
Aug-24-10 05:36 AM |
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Crack a Bible and read some of the books he gets his 'faith' |
Bluenorthwest |
Aug-24-10 10:02 AM |
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I'm sorry! |
onpatrol98 |
Aug-24-10 10:13 AM |
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Quite a number of First Ladies have spoken out when they've disagreed with hubby.... |
defendandprotect |
Aug-24-10 11:15 AM |
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It was evidently part of the same statement, |
polmaven |
Aug-24-10 11:28 AM |
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Especially, as Obama once taught Constitutional law ... !!! |
defendandprotect |
Aug-24-10 11:12 AM |
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K&R |
Fumesucker |
Aug-23-10 05:27 PM |
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Aug-23-10 05:28 PM |
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I was *just* thinking about this last week. |
Starry Messenger |
Aug-23-10 05:43 PM |
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The strange thing about that speech |
Prism |
Aug-23-10 05:50 PM |
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Exactly! |
Starry Messenger |
Aug-23-10 06:02 PM |
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Just horrible. The man hasn't appointed or hired a single "out" LGBTer to his administration |
Hekate |
Aug-23-10 05:58 PM |
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This response is hateful and wrong. |
Prism |
Aug-23-10 06:00 PM |
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I wish Obama were more proactive on marriage and the military, but to excoriate him as a homophobe? |
Hekate |
Aug-23-10 06:04 PM |
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Answer this simple question |
Prism |
Aug-23-10 06:08 PM |
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Just a simple question -- ech -- have a nice day |
Hekate |
Aug-23-10 06:11 PM |
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It's a very simple question |
Prism |
Aug-23-10 06:14 PM |
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The poster can't answer that, methinks |
LostinVA |
Aug-23-10 06:28 PM |
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this is also what makes them so mad |
RainDog |
Aug-23-10 07:36 PM |
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Exactly |
LostinVA |
Aug-23-10 08:23 PM |
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+1000% |
defendandprotect |
Aug-24-10 12:17 PM |
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You nailed it re: "cognitive dissonance" |
Ignis |
Aug-24-10 01:29 PM |
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Aug-24-10 02:19 AM |
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The lastest in the pony contest is homosexuals are being "selfish" ....!!! |
defendandprotect |
Aug-24-10 12:22 PM |
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You know the answer but are too cowardly to admit his bigotry - classy |
Dragonfli |
Aug-23-10 06:24 PM |
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Hekate.... |
Jax |
Aug-24-10 01:44 PM |
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For my sarcasm? >sigh< Mom always said my sharp tongue would get me in trouble. |
Hekate |
Aug-24-10 07:14 PM |
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But that's different |
MannyGoldstein |
Aug-23-10 06:12 PM |
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He opposes gay marriage and does so publicly, That is homophobic and bigoted |
Dragonfli |
Aug-23-10 06:13 PM |
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To be against gay marriage is to be a homophobe. |
Bunny |
Aug-23-10 06:13 PM |
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not so simple with a politican |
Skittles |
Aug-24-10 04:41 AM |
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+infinity |
KG |
Aug-24-10 05:13 PM |
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So....Obama was a homophobe during the campaign.... |
backtomn |
Aug-24-10 10:30 AM |
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The OP doesn't say that Obama is a homophobe |
eridani |
Aug-24-10 05:47 AM |
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DU has a pro-gay marriage policy .... and Obama doesn't . . . ??? |
defendandprotect |
Aug-24-10 11:20 AM |
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No |
LostinVA |
Aug-23-10 06:27 PM |
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No. n/t |
QC |
Aug-23-10 07:22 PM |
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Shame they can be Supreme Court appointees |
mtnester |
Aug-23-10 06:33 PM |
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Aug-23-10 09:46 PM |
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Ah, the old Sarcasm Smiley fails again |
Hekate |
Aug-23-10 11:22 PM |
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Is opposition to inter racial marriage racist? |
dsc |
Aug-23-10 11:28 PM |
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Yes, because you can't use a sarcasm smiley to offset anti-gay hatred. |
jgraz |
Aug-24-10 02:16 AM |
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So now you're mocking GLBT citizens for demanding that the President support marriage equality? |
ruggerson |
Aug-24-10 07:41 AM |
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Putting more minstrels in the show |
HillWilliam |
Aug-24-10 09:29 AM |
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Oh what a good post -- bravo! |
LostinVA |
Aug-24-10 09:31 AM |
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Hiya (((Lost))) LTNS |
HillWilliam |
Aug-24-10 09:50 AM |
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+1000000 |
QC |
Aug-24-10 09:32 AM |
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Fantastic post!!! |
racaulk |
Aug-24-10 09:45 AM |
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+7 Well said. /nt |
Spheric |
Aug-24-10 12:00 PM |
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Holy shit! |
tpsbmam |
Aug-24-10 12:18 PM |
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Think we need to start getting candidates to sign PLEDGES ....???? |
defendandprotect |
Aug-24-10 12:28 PM |
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+ a Brazillion. |
Shining Jack |
Aug-24-10 01:19 PM |
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Well stated. This deserves its own OP. |
Ignis |
Aug-24-10 01:31 PM |
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Thank you, HillWilliam. My sentiments exactly. |
Duncan Grant |
Aug-24-10 01:41 PM |
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Fucking A-doodle RIGHT, HillWilliam! Awesome post nm |
Richard Steele |
Aug-24-10 07:20 PM |
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So unmarried women qualify as lesbian appointments? In that case, HW Bush was progressive |
Gormy Cuss |
Aug-24-10 09:45 AM |
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That's a whole bunch of straw. n/t |
racaulk |
Aug-24-10 10:07 AM |
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This response is the Dr. Laura way of responding-- |
rusty fender |
Aug-24-10 10:27 AM |
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Good point -- there should be "openly gay" members of the administration.... |
defendandprotect |
Aug-24-10 12:19 PM |
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Disgusting, sick and disgusting. |
Jax |
Aug-24-10 01:43 PM |
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Arnold. He's right of Arnold Schwarzenegger. Pathetic and so unnecessary. |
Safetykitten |
Aug-23-10 06:22 PM |
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And Dick Cheney, Ted Olsen, Eliz. Hasselbeck, Laura Bush, and Cindy McCain |
LostinVA |
Aug-23-10 06:29 PM |
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but wait! the big O is surveying women and families for permission to end DADT. does that count? nt |
msongs |
Aug-23-10 06:24 PM |
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Of course, our rights have always been by neighbor's permission and not law duh.. |
Dragonfli |
Aug-23-10 06:27 PM |
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And when that is finished, and the surveys of neighbors and household pets, |
QC |
Aug-23-10 07:51 PM |
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My pets say 'yay' on ending DADT! |
rusty fender |
Aug-24-10 10:32 AM |
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I don't think Eisenhower... |
kenfrequed |
Aug-24-10 10:38 AM |
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k&r #17 |
jannyk |
Aug-23-10 06:34 PM |
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Recommend |
xchrom |
Aug-23-10 06:57 PM |
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It's Hell taking a position on a divisive, polarizing issue -- you're either with us or against us. |
jody |
Aug-23-10 07:13 PM |
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Yeah, that's because you ARE either with us or against us. |
readmoreoften |
Aug-23-10 09:49 PM |
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What's the half measure on black civil rights? |
Radical Activist |
Aug-24-10 12:50 AM |
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But were Kennedy and Johnson *against* the civil rights act? |
jgraz |
Aug-24-10 02:13 AM |
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Kennedy never supported a number of things that were in LBJ's civil rights law. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-24-10 02:25 AM |
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So Kennedy was personally, religiously opposed to equal rights for blacks? |
jgraz |
Aug-24-10 02:47 AM |
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Aug-24-10 03:18 AM |
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but the fact is civil unions is his end goal |
dsc |
Aug-24-10 06:08 AM |
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If ... |
kenfrequed |
Aug-24-10 10:49 AM |
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Judge Walker Vaughn struck down the notion that civil unions provide equal rights. I agree. |
laughingliberal |
Aug-24-10 09:42 AM |
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Separate but equal has never been a stepping stone towards full equality. |
Spheric |
Aug-24-10 12:09 PM |
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Uhm therein lies the error. |
kenfrequed |
Aug-24-10 10:46 AM |
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K&R |
CaliforniaPeggy |
Aug-23-10 07:18 PM |
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What else can you call it? Few things I can say I'm more ashamed of than enabling such |
TheKentuckian |
Aug-23-10 08:08 PM |
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It is disgraceful, and needs to change. nt |
BlueIris |
Aug-23-10 08:22 PM |
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K & R. n/t |
chill_wind |
Aug-23-10 08:23 PM |
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K&R |
G_j |
Aug-23-10 08:41 PM |
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It really is a disgrace |
dsc |
Aug-23-10 09:52 PM |
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I find his failure to adhere to progressive principles very disappointing. |
TexasObserver |
Aug-23-10 10:01 PM |
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And women finally got the right to vote by having a well organized movement. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-23-10 11:28 PM |
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then what were they doing in front of the White House getting arrested? |
dsc |
Aug-23-10 11:35 PM |
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And the Capitol building. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-23-10 11:41 PM |
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I think you need to educate yourself about the Suffrage MOvement |
LostinVA |
Aug-24-10 05:18 AM |
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Insulting. nt |
laughingliberal |
Aug-24-10 09:44 AM |
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Was there a Presidential candidate at that time who... |
racaulk |
Aug-24-10 09:51 AM |
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Women got the vote because of grassroots activism and a politician's courage |
LostinVA |
Aug-24-10 10:30 AM |
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"But, Wilson, the PRESIDENT, got the ball rolling." |
Radical Activist |
Aug-24-10 11:08 AM |
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No, President Wilson got the ball rolling |
LostinVA |
Aug-24-10 12:22 PM |
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From the article, all the way at the end. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-24-10 12:40 PM |
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That doesn't contradict what I said -- good try, though |
LostinVA |
Aug-24-10 12:52 PM |
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It very clearly does in plain English. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-24-10 12:54 PM |
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On this issue, Obama is either a bigoted homophobe or a craven political coward |
Nye Bevan |
Aug-23-10 11:54 PM |
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He makes it pretty obvious |
Radical Activist |
Aug-24-10 12:36 AM |
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Since marriage is a legal contract |
cate94 |
Aug-24-10 10:16 AM |
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Hmm.. |
Radical Activist |
Aug-24-10 01:30 PM |
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Way to spread the RW talking point that marriage is a religious institution first. |
Smashcut |
Aug-24-10 12:50 PM |
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I quoted |
Radical Activist |
Aug-24-10 01:16 PM |
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That would make more sense if "marriage" was strictly a |
DirkGently |
Aug-24-10 12:57 PM |
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First |
Radical Activist |
Aug-24-10 01:38 PM |
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Doesn't have to go that far |
Prophet 451 |
Aug-24-10 09:55 AM |
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Sounds like Wilson was a "fierce advocate" for women's rights. |
jgraz |
Aug-24-10 02:11 AM |
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Like I said. Disappeared. |
VMI Dem |
Aug-24-10 02:27 AM |
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!! |
jonnyblitz |
Aug-24-10 04:20 AM |
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k an r |
cwydro |
Aug-24-10 07:58 AM |
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It's way past time for every Woman, Black & Hispanic to get behind the Gay community. We've all |
williesgirl |
Aug-24-10 08:32 AM |
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I'm thank you for taking the time to post what you did. |
Jamastiene |
Aug-24-10 09:54 AM |
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Religion is the gift that keeps on giving and giving. Just imagine life without it. |
valerief |
Aug-24-10 08:44 AM |
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K & R nt |
laughingliberal |
Aug-24-10 09:45 AM |
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K & R . Moving even farther to the Right |
SlingBlade |
Aug-24-10 09:45 AM |
#95 |
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K & R nt |
laughingliberal |
Aug-24-10 09:47 AM |
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I understand why he took that stance |
Prophet 451 |
Aug-24-10 09:50 AM |
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K&R! |
racaulk |
Aug-24-10 09:51 AM |
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Our President said |
mstinamotorcity |
Aug-24-10 09:55 AM |
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Fired up and ready to go! Yay! He's better than Bush! nt |
laughingliberal |
Aug-24-10 10:00 AM |
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What an inspiring campaign slogan: We're Not Quite as Bad as Bush. n/t |
QC |
Aug-24-10 10:13 AM |
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Makes me tingly all over! nt |
laughingliberal |
Aug-24-10 12:37 PM |
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"but do they think that they will be able to push there agenda through with any other... |
racaulk |
Aug-24-10 10:19 AM |
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It should be enough |
mstinamotorcity |
Aug-24-10 01:43 PM |
#154 |
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K&R! |
butterfly77 |
Aug-24-10 10:23 AM |
#113 |
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Except "marriage" is a legal term on every level of government |
LostinVA |
Aug-24-10 10:32 AM |
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Look the word marriage |
mstinamotorcity |
Aug-24-10 01:49 PM |
#157 |
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Obama is less liberal than |
placton |
Aug-24-10 11:46 AM |
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K&R |
DeSwiss |
Aug-24-10 11:51 AM |
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Aug-24-10 12:40 PM |
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i do`t remember Christ ever saying anything about gay people... |
madrchsod |
Aug-24-10 01:52 PM |
#158 |
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K&R |
foxfeet |
Aug-24-10 02:09 PM |
#159 |
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K&R |
The Green Manalishi |
Aug-24-10 05:04 PM |
#160 |
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I'm not the worlds biggest Obama fan |
pezDispenser |
Aug-24-10 05:21 PM |
#162 |
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End DADT by presidential decree, right now. |
The Green Manalishi |
Aug-24-10 05:37 PM |
#163 |
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And that helps gay marriage how? |
pezDispenser |
Aug-24-10 06:14 PM |
#164 |
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Psychological victory. |
The Green Manalishi |
Aug-24-10 09:16 PM |
#167 |
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