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NoNothing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 01:43 PM
Response to Reply #8
11. That's as may be
But the correct rebuttal, then, will be different than if you are having an argument about Constitutional rights. See? If you want to win a debate, you have to attack your opponents' *actual* premises.
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  -I don't care about any Mosque, one way or another but I do care about America Winterblues  Aug-23-10 12:46 PM   #0 
  - but this is about muslims....they're like brown and stuff...and like 9/11  NightWatcher   Aug-23-10 12:49 PM   #1 
  - This is about having 9/11 front and center in an election year  liberal N proud   Aug-23-10 12:54 PM   #2 
     - exactly  Jeffersons Ghost   Aug-23-10 01:26 PM   #6 
     - But but but  malaise   Aug-23-10 01:47 PM   #15 
        - There you go with facts  liberal N proud   Aug-23-10 02:24 PM   #27 
  - There is broad agreement  NoNothing   Aug-23-10 01:07 PM   #3 
  - perhaps the african americans should have been more considerate and sat in the back of the bus  spanone   Aug-23-10 01:25 PM   #5 
  - Or done a survey of anyone who ever did or might ride on a bus, or their families and friends  uppityperson   Aug-24-10 01:28 PM   #34 
  - Public Displays of Islam are naturally offensive to Americans  el_bryanto   Aug-23-10 01:29 PM   #7 
  - It's okay as long as they don't act Muslim in public /nt  jberryhill   Aug-23-10 01:38 PM   #9 
  - There may be some valid reasons for holding this opinion  NoNothing   Aug-23-10 01:46 PM   #13 
     - Cite the valid reasons, then  jberryhill   Aug-23-10 02:03 PM   #18 
        - Generally they center around the following:  NoNothing   Aug-23-10 02:13 PM   #23 
           - They are already having that discussion themselves...  jberryhill   Aug-23-10 03:39 PM   #28 
           - Do you think these foaming at the mouth bigots are going to sit for a comparative religion course?  TheKentuckian   Aug-23-10 04:02 PM   #29 
              - Do you really think a majority of Americans are "foaming at the mouth bigots?"  NoNothing   Aug-24-10 12:57 AM   #31 
                 - Just like they have "legitimate" concerns about gay folks getting married.  TheKentuckian   Aug-24-10 01:01 PM   #32 
                    - You are personalizing this  NoNothing   Aug-24-10 01:24 PM   #33 
                       - Their goals cannot be accomplished by rolling over and going away  TheKentuckian   Aug-24-10 02:31 PM   #36 
                          - So you think you can win trust  NoNothing   Aug-24-10 02:43 PM   #37 
                             - It's not a zero-sum game.  LanternWaste   Aug-24-10 03:51 PM   #40 
                             - Nope it won't nor can your "concerns" in many cases be addressed at all and certainly with  TheKentuckian   Aug-24-10 04:20 PM   #43 
  - However, the "inconsiderate" perception  jberryhill   Aug-23-10 01:38 PM   #8 
  - That's as may be  NoNothing   Aug-23-10 01:43 PM   #11 
     - They have to work through it on their own, unfortunately  jberryhill   Aug-23-10 01:46 PM   #14 
        - Exactly  NoNothing   Aug-23-10 02:18 PM   #25 
  - thats utter horseshit. the building of mosques are being protested all over  La Lioness Priyanka   Aug-23-10 01:45 PM   #12 
     - For other reasons  NoNothing   Aug-23-10 01:58 PM   #16 
        - LOL. yes. clearly the protest on which walmart is based, is exactly the same as  La Lioness Priyanka   Aug-23-10 02:00 PM   #17 
        - A rising tide of hate against Arkansas retailers, no doubt  jberryhill   Aug-23-10 02:04 PM   #19 
        - LOL. exactly. huge marginalized group.  La Lioness Priyanka   Aug-23-10 02:06 PM   #21 
        - I think it's not so dissimilar as you might imagine  NoNothing   Aug-23-10 02:05 PM   #20 
           - There are many flaws in this argument. There is no central Muslim organization.  La Lioness Priyanka   Aug-23-10 02:10 PM   #22 
              - Well that is convenient, isn't it?  NoNothing   Aug-23-10 02:16 PM   #24 
                 - making badly formed arguments based on peoples emotions isnt rational.  La Lioness Priyanka   Aug-23-10 02:22 PM   #26 
        - And exactly what is it that American Muslims do that differs in any way, shape  Karenina   Aug-24-10 04:06 PM   #41 
  - this is not the america we grew up in. not close.  spanone   Aug-23-10 01:24 PM   #4 
  - In the long run, this type of thinking will win out....  jberryhill   Aug-23-10 01:43 PM   #10 
  - a poster said something about defending sharia. it isnt about defending any religion  seabeyond   Aug-23-10 04:25 PM   #30 
  - Teabaggers are just for themselves  natrlron   Aug-24-10 01:35 PM   #35 
  - This is what happens when nationalism becomes religion and flags become idols.  Uncle Joe   Aug-24-10 03:08 PM   #38 
  - This totally exposes the TB's "IT'S ALL ABOUT TEH CONSTITUSHUN!!1!"  bullwinkle428   Aug-24-10 03:11 PM   #39 
  - Allowing it (especially after the racist rights' behavior) would be a great gesture  stuntcat   Aug-24-10 04:19 PM   #42 
 

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